**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jan 08 02:59:57 2011
Jan 08 04:26:58 <npm> berndhs -- does that mean the phone has a coriolis effect sensor :-)
Jan 08 04:33:19 <pupnik> the rotation isn't so easy to get right
Jan 08 05:01:51 <RhymeswA> pupnik: hmm,  suppose that's what Nokia is gonna use to torch the competition with the n9, prediction of which way the loo will rotate
Jan 08 05:02:04 <pupnik> heheh
Jan 08 05:02:21 <pupnik> they will sell N9s on styling alone imo
Jan 08 05:02:46 <RhymeswA> could be visionary
Jan 08 05:03:19 <pupnik> but here's the thing... why go to all the trouble of development and then only release one case design
Jan 08 05:03:31 <pupnik> why now a whole pallette of cases with basically the same hardware
Jan 08 05:03:44 <pupnik> s/now/not/g
Jan 08 05:03:44 <infobot> pupnik meant: why not a whole pallette of cases with basically the same hardware
Jan 08 05:04:44 <pupnik> that might be expensive i suppose
Jan 08 05:04:56 <pupnik> particularly if each case needs seperate certification
Jan 08 05:06:12 <RhymeswA> ya, I just want something to really use this MeeGo thingy
Jan 08 05:08:29 <ShadowJK> whole pallette of cases with same hw is what they used to do, then they crippled each one in a different way in software ;p
Jan 08 05:14:09 <pupnik> :)
Jan 08 05:14:37 <pupnik> n900 was pretty much perfect, just needed a few hardware tweaks
Jan 08 05:15:05 <pupnik> a slim keyboardless version.   a bigger version with a stonkin battery and 4-row keyboard...
Jan 08 06:52:26 <Raim> hello
Jan 08 06:53:00 <Raim> I hope this is the right place to ask questions about running meego on a N900?
Jan 08 06:55:23 <Raim> I was able to boot meego 1.1, but all I see on the screen is a tty. maybe I am wrong, but shouldn't there be a X server?
Jan 08 06:57:55 <ml-something> are you sure it's 1.1 and not an older version?
Jan 08 07:00:27 <Raim> ml-something: I was using meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.1-*, /etc/issue on the device says "MeeGo release 1.1 (MeeGo)"
Jan 08 07:50:56 <lcuk> Raim, which specfic url did you get your image from?
Jan 08 07:52:23 <Raim> lcuk: http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.1/handset/images/meego-handset-armv7l-n900/
Jan 08 07:52:50 <Raim> this was linked from the wiki
Jan 08 07:53:01 <lcuk> sure, just confirming
Jan 08 08:04:22 <lcuk> Raim, afaik the xserver should be running, try executing "uxlaunch" potentially
Jan 08 08:04:37 * lcuk grabs coffee
Jan 08 08:09:28 <Raim> lcuk: no, there is no X server running
Jan 08 08:09:53 <lcuk> that doesnt sound normal at all then, did it try to run and fail?
Jan 08 08:10:04 <Raim> lcuk: but "-bash: /usr/sbin/uxlaunch: Input/output error" does not sound good
Jan 08 08:10:07 <lcuk> under normal circumstances, I would point you towards the daily testing images
Jan 08 08:10:20 <lcuk> but theres been a bit of a hiccup for the last few days on n900 ones
Jan 08 08:13:14 <Raim> I will try this again later, maybe the SD card I have here is faulty or something...
Jan 08 08:13:49 <lcuk> well Raim its certianly odd
Jan 08 08:14:38 <araujo> Raim, did you check the md5sum of the image?
Jan 08 08:14:42 * araujo greets lcuk 
Jan 08 08:15:21 <lcuk> heya araujo \o i was just vanishing to make breakfast.  do you want me to mail you a coffee and bacon sandwich?
Jan 08 08:15:36 <araujo> lcuk, go for it :D
Jan 08 08:40:57 <lcuk> holy hell, CRT tvs are heavy
Jan 08 08:41:04 <lcuk> I had forgotten
Jan 08 08:41:16 <lcuk> morning vgrade \o
Jan 08 08:44:19 <vgrade> hi lcuk
Jan 08 08:45:04 <lcuk> what you upto today vgrade ?
Jan 08 08:45:08 <vgrade> bit tired this morning
Jan 08 08:45:19 <lcuk> i actually had a whole nights sleep :)
Jan 08 08:45:32 <lcuk> heading off to shops later
Jan 08 08:45:45 <vgrade> was up late watching the hardfp build unfold with sage and stskeeps
Jan 08 08:45:53 <vgrade> gripping stiff
Jan 08 08:46:21 <vgrade> pitty the read only access to meego obs is not avaiable yet
Jan 08 08:46:27 <lcuk> yeah its going to be good to have it all running
Jan 08 08:46:46 <lcuk> the obs access does need validating really
Jan 08 08:46:54 * lcuk understands frustration tho
Jan 08 08:47:31 <lcuk> what benefits does the harpfp rebuild bring?
Jan 08 08:48:07 <vgrade> reports of large percentage speed increases
Jan 08 08:48:32 <lcuk> \o/
Jan 08 08:48:43 <vgrade> and also allows tegra and marvel SOC's to run MeeGo
Jan 08 08:49:05 <lcuk> awesome
Jan 08 08:49:06 <vgrade> I'm ready with my Advent Vega tablet (tegra 2)
Jan 08 08:49:22 <lcuk> hah
Jan 08 08:49:46 <lcuk> just waiting for clean images to start coming back out of daily for n900
Jan 08 08:50:49 <vgrade> need to go now, league bowling with the kids for a couple of hours
Jan 08 08:51:16 <lcuk> have fun
Jan 08 08:51:30 * lcuk wants to build parrot ar drone software on meego once we can
Jan 08 08:51:31 <lcuk> http://blogs.forum.nokia.com/blog/kate-alholas-forum-nokia-blog/2010/12/23/ar-drone-with-meego
Jan 08 09:00:09 <lcuk> morning leinir \o
Jan 08 09:00:30 <kyb3R> lcuk: I have had the same thought for a while too
Jan 08 09:00:50 <kyb3R> I meant the drone
Jan 08 09:02:00 <lcuk> kyb3R, do you have a drone now, or any other kind of flying machine?
Jan 08 09:03:04 <kyb3R> lcuk: i'm still in the process of convincing one project mamanger to get us 1-2 drones
Jan 08 09:03:30 <kyb3R> I have had some discussions with Kate about her work/progree on the subject
Jan 08 09:03:31 <lcuk> kyb3R, thats smart
Jan 08 09:03:34 <kyb3R> *progress
Jan 08 09:04:12 <lcuk> perhaps we need to sabotage the email system and convince higher ups that the ONLY way to deliver stuff inside the office is with drone shipments
Jan 08 09:04:30 <kyb3R> :)
Jan 08 09:04:49 <lcuk> which building are you located in?
Jan 08 09:04:56 <hena> a friend bought one a while ago
Jan 08 09:05:23 <hena> was kind of wondering this also
Jan 08 09:05:24 <lcuk> n900 has an actual technical problem with the dual onscreen joysticks
Jan 08 09:05:56 <mihero> what problem?
Jan 08 09:06:00 <lcuk> flying my heli normally it requires extremely precise adjustments
Jan 08 09:06:00 <hena> screen
Jan 08 09:06:14 <lcuk> mihero, you need multitouch o_O
Jan 08 09:06:23 <kyb3R> lcuk: which building? I don't follow...
Jan 08 09:06:47 <mihero> ah, true. n900 lacks it
Jan 08 09:07:59 <mihero> one onscreen joystick and one from accelometer
Jan 08 09:08:25 <lcuk> reasonable mihero
Jan 08 09:08:40 <lcuk> kyb3R, dont worry, was just a random question
Jan 08 09:08:41 <kyb3R> I believe Kate has done the development with some unpublished devices
Jan 08 09:09:04 <kyb3R> at least the latest work
Jan 08 09:09:52 <hena> maybe you could control it better with two n900's ;)
Jan 08 09:09:54 <ShadowJK> It would also require extremely precise thumb pressure
Jan 08 09:10:07 <kyb3R> she will btw give a presentation about that stuff in the Summit at Tampere
Jan 08 09:10:41 * lcuk is enjoying his big n900 with multitouch
Jan 08 09:10:49 <ShadowJK> like, I often fail to hit the right elements because thumb "rolls off" slightly
Jan 08 09:10:54 <lcuk> its a shame its not got a full size stylus tho
Jan 08 09:11:08 <ShadowJK> or then the flesh in my thumb isn't of even density I guess
Jan 08 09:11:38 <hena> lcuk: multitouch n900?
Jan 08 09:12:13 <lcuk> hena, a joke of course, its the lenovo ideapad
Jan 08 09:12:49 <lcuk> but its fun to see same apps on n900 as on there
Jan 08 09:13:05 <ShadowJK> I might be able to fly my chopper with stylus though, provided someone else handles the other control :)
Jan 08 09:13:12 <hena> heh
Jan 08 09:13:26 <hena> how's the ideapad?
Jan 08 09:13:34 <lcuk> lovely
Jan 08 09:13:50 <lcuk> http://liqbase.net/20101123_003.jpg
Jan 08 09:14:46 <mihero> use n900 as a headup display for drone and use bt ps3 pad as a controller
Jan 08 09:15:04 <lcuk> not required really
Jan 08 09:15:12 <lcuk> accel is fine for tilt/roll
Jan 08 09:15:23 <lcuk> and a h/v slide would work for the updown etc
Jan 08 09:15:33 <hena> i need to get a new laplet soon, wondering what i should get
Jan 08 09:15:34 <lcuk> as mihero suggested
Jan 08 09:15:44 <hena> been waiting for 720line resolution
Jan 08 09:15:51 <ShadowJK> I already have 2 real controllers :)
Jan 08 09:16:05 <mihero> they are so boring:)
Jan 08 09:16:18 <ShadowJK> They are accurate :)
Jan 08 09:16:20 <lcuk> hena, if we are talking awesomeness, I want something the size of ideapad but with the dpi of n900
Jan 08 09:16:48 <lcuk> but the dpi is wasted without precise picker control from it
Jan 08 09:16:59 <Myrtti> mmmm. berlin
Jan 08 09:17:00 * lcuk is considering adding resistive overlay onto idepad
Jan 08 09:17:00 <kyb3R> accel is already implemented in Kate's project
Jan 08 09:17:08 <ShadowJK> You need roughly 256x256 pixels, pixel-perfect accuracy :)
Jan 08 09:17:08 <lcuk> kyb3R, yeah
Jan 08 09:17:13 <hena> well, 10" screen is what i want
Jan 08 09:17:17 <ShadowJK> or bigger if you don't have pixelperfect
Jan 08 09:17:22 <hena> or a very compact 12"
Jan 08 09:17:26 <lcuk> ideadpad has that hena
Jan 08 09:17:34 <ShadowJK> Or then you start crippling the control range
Jan 08 09:17:42 <hena> yeah, but does it have 720line resolution? :)
Jan 08 09:18:29 <hena> i'm using hp mini now for couple years, and i'm still somewhat happy with this
Jan 08 09:18:52 <hena> but no touchscreen
Jan 08 09:20:09 <ShadowJK> I'd want a hp mini :)
Jan 08 09:20:22 <ShadowJK> I touched one once and the keyboard didnt seem too bad
Jan 08 09:20:37 <ShadowJK> and there seems to be aftermarket batteries available
Jan 08 09:21:51 <hena> yeah, it's really good, aside the battery
Jan 08 09:22:23 <hena> i mean the feel and such, just would hope for slightly better resolution, better battery which is no biggie and touchscreen
Jan 08 09:23:02 <mihero> they should make touchpads bigger
Jan 08 09:23:18 <hena> they should remove touchpads ;)
Jan 08 09:23:19 <mihero> sizes that apple uses
Jan 08 09:23:30 <lcuk> my touchpad is 10"
Jan 08 09:23:36 <lcuk> how much bigger do you want?
Jan 08 09:23:38 <hena> that's another downside on this, doesn't have the nipple
Jan 08 09:24:19 <mihero> lcuk: is it located bottom of a keyboard?:)
Jan 08 09:24:43 <lcuk> mihero, in tablet/slate mode, sure
Jan 08 09:25:46 <lcuk> mihero, meego netbook has other bugs which mean looking for a tiny cursor is a bit frustrating
Jan 08 09:26:15 <lcuk> bug 10444
Jan 08 09:26:19 <MeeGoBot> Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10444 nor, Undecided, ---, ningxin.hu, NEW, Browser scrolling not possible when mouse at screen borders
Jan 08 09:27:42 <hena> also really frustrating that chromium doesn't scroll while page is loading
Jan 08 09:28:07 <hena> i'm impatient
Jan 08 09:28:49 <lcuk> hena, i am personally frustrated at chromium for various reasons
Jan 08 09:29:07 <lcuk> unfortunately it would not just be the browser thats at fault
Jan 08 09:29:11 <lcuk> case in point:
Jan 08 09:29:19 <lcuk> open the top bar on browser page
Jan 08 09:29:23 <lcuk> enter a search term
Jan 08 09:29:25 <lcuk> press enter
Jan 08 09:29:33 <lcuk> top bar/meego ux vanishes
Jan 08 09:29:42 <lcuk> original app is back visible for X seconds
Jan 08 09:29:51 <lcuk> (confusion, what, where, huh, )
Jan 08 09:29:58 <lcuk> browser pops up
Jan 08 09:30:02 <lcuk> with various old stale tabs still there
Jan 08 09:30:10 <lcuk> wtf, I searched for something
Jan 08 09:30:30 <lcuk> user experience: bad
Jan 08 09:31:15 <lcuk>  but I am being a little cynical, I am off shopping
Jan 08 09:31:45 <hena> :)
Jan 08 09:33:12 <vgrade> cheap 10" touchscreen from china, http://www.youtube.com/user/vgrade100#p/a/u/1/nK4vxM4KnWE
Jan 08 09:51:55 <Sage> Anyone know if it is possible to link from build.pub.meego.com to build.meego.com home/devel projects?
Jan 08 10:26:10 <mdl0871> is there anyone?
Jan 08 10:44:56 <lcuk> hey spyro \o how is CBG this morning
Jan 08 10:46:32 <lcuk> alterego, using ssh to connect and run apps, any idea how to solve the dbus connection issues?  running from a local console works happily
Jan 08 10:46:42 <hena> hmh, meego really needs a better keyboard navigation also
Jan 08 10:46:43 <lcuk> and I already did the export DISPLAY=:0 stuff
Jan 08 10:46:54 <lcuk> hena, you mean in netbook ux?
Jan 08 10:47:01 <hena> yeah
Jan 08 10:47:09 <alterego> lcuk: you're running them as meego user right?
Jan 08 10:47:25 <lcuk> alterego, yeah ssh lcuk@10.0...
Jan 08 10:47:45 <lcuk> hena, personally for touch screen usage
Jan 08 10:47:48 <alterego> That's the user the ux is running as?
Jan 08 10:47:56 <hena> i mean keyboard
Jan 08 10:47:57 <lcuk> i would *really* like the meego netbook topbar to be at the bottom
Jan 08 10:48:09 <lcuk> so that it becomes an extra keyboard row
Jan 08 10:48:16 <hena> like i can open the topbar with the menu button but i can't navigate it
Jan 08 10:48:29 <hena> somewhat annoying
Jan 08 10:48:29 <lcuk> sure hena I think thats already filed too
Jan 08 10:48:35 <hena> ah, ok
Jan 08 10:48:37 <lcuk> if not, file it
Jan 08 10:48:45 <lcuk> theres netbook triage meetings each week
Jan 08 10:48:54 <alterego> lcuk: I think when I had this problem I looked at other env vars
Jan 08 10:49:07 <lcuk> and if it bothers *you* then champion it and follow up and see who can help you fix it
Jan 08 10:49:08 <alterego> If you run env under an xterm and look for the DBUS vars
Jan 08 10:49:27 <lcuk> alterego, ok I have 2 consoles open
Jan 08 10:49:37 <lcuk> how do I list the env vars?
Jan 08 10:49:48 <alterego> just run 'env'
Jan 08 10:49:52 <lcuk> rog
Jan 08 10:50:00 <alterego> env | grep DBUS
Jan 08 10:50:11 <alterego> also: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12138790
Jan 08 10:50:13 <alterego> teeheehee
Jan 08 10:50:32 <alterego> bbiab
Jan 08 10:50:36 <lcuk> ta alterego
Jan 08 10:53:08 <lcuk> alterego, :) duplicating those DBUS env vars worked \o you are a *
Jan 08 11:01:40 <lcuk> widgetsgallery in parts reminds me of original liqbase :)
Jan 08 11:04:48 <leinir> lcuk: mornin' :)
Jan 08 11:05:03 <lcuk> \o hey leinir
Jan 08 11:05:21 <lcuk> how far away was your travels this week?  if you get it are you moving house?
Jan 08 11:06:17 <leinir> Just to Oslo, and no, i won't be moving there :)
Jan 08 11:06:53 <lcuk> cool though, hope you get it
Jan 08 11:10:55 <leinir> Thanks! :)
Jan 08 11:12:36 <lcuk> leinir, plans for the weekend?
Jan 08 11:13:12 <lcuk> mine shall have to improve soon, I might goto pub
Jan 08 11:13:31 <leinir> A friend is coming down from Scotland, and they're bringing my boyfriend :D
Jan 08 11:13:58 <leinir> My house mate is also bringing a friend :)
Jan 08 11:14:08 <lcuk> leinir, always a win
Jan 08 11:14:20 <leinir> Indeed :)
Jan 08 11:18:52 <lcuk> in qt creator, is there a toolbar
Jan 08 11:18:55 <lcuk> with a save button
Jan 08 11:19:07 <lcuk> so I dont have to goto menu to save current file
Jan 08 11:19:36 <alterego> lcuk: glad it worked :)
Jan 08 11:20:11 <alterego> lcuk: if you check .bashrc and they're in there, maybe making a .profile and getting it to source .bashrc would make things easier for you.
Jan 08 11:20:35 <lcuk> alterego, I think it changes with each session
Jan 08 11:20:45 <lcuk> since one of the parameters was PID
Jan 08 11:22:37 <leinir> lcuk: You can tell it to save all files on compile/run as well :)
Jan 08 11:23:34 <lcuk> leinir, but I am not directly running on the machine where qtcreator is
Jan 08 11:23:41 <lcuk> I am just using it as an editor
Jan 08 11:23:58 <lcuk> i have console window for the running/logging/info purposes
Jan 08 11:24:00 <leinir> Ah, right :)
Jan 08 11:27:12 <alterego> lcuk: not sure pid is the required one, what other vars are there?
Jan 08 11:28:27 <alterego> also pid can be generated by PID=$(cat /var/run/dbus.pid) or whatever
Jan 08 11:29:58 <lcuk>  export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-PwP55ER2Al,guid=4bc0ab71c14a4406f03b180e00000022
Jan 08 11:30:13 <lcuk> which looks pretty specific
Jan 08 11:32:57 <alterego> Hmm, yeah, I wonder if that changes :D
Jan 08 11:34:13 <alterego> There mush be a way some how, oh well :)
Jan 08 11:35:31 <alterego> Ah .dbus/session-bus
Jan 08 11:36:39 <alterego> lcuk, under that ^ dir theres a file that you can source that has the appropriate env vars for your system
Jan 08 12:02:33 <Termana> morning
Jan 08 13:25:29 <CosmoHill> oh cock, my dvd is stuck in my slot loading drive
Jan 08 13:26:00 <CosmoHill> ah, second time lucky
Jan 08 13:31:02 <lardman> "morning"
Jan 08 13:31:23 <Stskeeps> morn lardman
Jan 08 13:31:34 <lardman> how's things Stskeeps?
Jan 08 13:31:41 <Stskeeps> good
Jan 08 13:32:42 <Stskeeps> we made a test run of meego hardfp yesterday with very very few failures, of meego trunk
Jan 08 13:33:10 <Stskeeps> http://download.meego.com/live/devel:/hardfp:/testrun/standard/armv7hl/ and http://download.meego.com/live/devel:/hardfp:/base/standard/armv7hl/ , so i'm happy
Jan 08 13:33:19 <CosmoHill> Stskeeps: kudos
Jan 08 13:33:31 <lardman> cool
Jan 08 13:34:17 <lardman> is there a list of the failures?
Jan 08 13:35:00 <lardman> just out of curisoty
Jan 08 13:35:08 <lardman> hmm, note to self, learn to spell
Jan 08 13:35:30 <Stskeeps> i just started a rebuild, but some are related to qemu bug (mmoc crashes, for MTF apps) and one regarding u-boot
Jan 08 13:35:44 <Stskeeps> ie, it's really like 2 or 3 failues :)
Jan 08 13:36:01 <lardman> oh, very good then :)
Jan 08 13:39:00 <Stskeeps> we already booted up an image to login prompt, so
Jan 08 13:39:25 <lardman> with updated sgx?
Jan 08 13:39:35 <Stskeeps> not to xorg, we still need to recompile that blob
Jan 08 13:39:40 <lardman> ok
Jan 08 13:39:58 <CosmoHill> salut ali1234
Jan 08 15:20:50 <hena> hmh, meego doesn't have a console based ftp client?
Jan 08 15:21:38 <CosmoHill> you could probably install one via zypper
Jan 08 15:21:56 <Stskeeps> hena: afaik lftp exists?
Jan 08 15:22:00 <hena> nope
Jan 08 15:22:07 <hena> at least in the default repos
Jan 08 15:23:37 <lcuk> hena,
Jan 08 15:23:40 <lcuk>   | lftp                          | Sophisticated command-line FTP/HTTP client programs                  | package
Jan 08 15:23:40 <lcuk>   | lftp                          | Sophisticated command-line FTP/HTTP client programs                  | srcpackage
Jan 08 15:25:30 <lcuk> hena, zypper info suggests its coming from:
Jan 08 15:25:32 <lcuk> baseurl=http://download.meego.com/live/Trunk:/Testing/standard/
Jan 08 15:26:13 <hena> thanks
Jan 08 15:26:42 <lcuk> Stskeeps, I miss the packages interface from maemo :)
Jan 08 15:26:58 <lcuk> its one of the * parts of the maemo.org infra
Jan 08 15:32:34 <hena> hah
Jan 08 15:32:34 <hena> Problem: nothing provides perl(DBI) needed by lftp-4.0.10-1.3.i586 Solution 1: do not install lftp-4.0.10-1.3.i586
Jan 08 15:32:38 <hena> love it
Jan 08 15:33:03 <CosmoHill> why does meego target i586 instead of i686?
Jan 08 15:33:03 <hena> oh, nevermind
Jan 08 15:33:04 <mgedmin> if all the world's problems could be solved in that simple manner ...
Jan 08 15:33:38 <hena> portability?
Jan 08 15:34:54 <ShadowJK> It's not exactly portable when it requires SSSE3
Jan 08 15:35:13 <ShadowJK> I would guess it's some misguided attempt to "optimize" for atom ;p
Jan 08 15:37:39 <hena> i586 requires sse3?
Jan 08 15:37:50 <Stskeeps> i586's just a bad name for the rpm arch for 'atom'
Jan 08 15:38:52 <ShadowJK> Does this imply "i686" is reserved for something else for future use?
Jan 08 15:39:01 <CosmoHill> it's atom but why have i586 and i686 packages
Jan 08 15:49:24 <pupnik> well SSE code is hard to write and can improve some operations vastly
Jan 08 15:49:39 <pupnik> the question is whether an OS should be using parallelization like that
Jan 08 15:50:53 <timeless_mbp> dneary: right, thanks, your second attempt was fished out of the archived ether :)
Jan 08 15:53:18 <lcuk> pupnik, tbh, I would be happy having all the required operations in place
Jan 08 15:53:26 <lcuk> then worry about optimising the specifics
Jan 08 15:53:58 <lcuk> timeless_mbp, \o
Jan 08 15:54:06 <lcuk> enjoying w/e?
Jan 08 15:54:37 <timeless_mbp> sleep is good
Jan 08 15:54:48 <pupnik> lcuk: in particular it's a barrier to people hacking on the OS and contributing to it... SSE optimizations can be added to device specific implementations if desired
Jan 08 15:54:54 <CosmoHill> i think the point I'm trying to get at is why do we have i586 and i686 RPMs when they both require an atom
Jan 08 15:55:07 <pupnik> dunno that
Jan 08 15:55:58 <CosmoHill> there is i586, i686 and noarch
Jan 08 16:12:39 <gabrbedd> CosmoHill: Indeed... but IIRC, it's pretty much just glibc using i686 arch -- so maybe it's a typo in OBS?
Jan 08 17:40:27 * lcuk boots up n810
Jan 08 17:40:55 <lcuk> and remembers just how optimised and well it ran on even lesser hardware!
Jan 08 17:42:16 <thorns> Any way to get the Meego SDK running on Ubuntu 10.10 64bit?
Jan 08 17:42:53 <thorns> Haven't tried yet but I read the platform isn't supported
Jan 08 17:43:04 <thorns> And it's planned for Q1 2011
Jan 08 17:46:32 <lardman|home> thorns: worked for me installing at leasy
Jan 08 17:46:34 <lardman|home> least
Jan 08 17:47:03 <thorns> tried running the VM?
Jan 08 17:47:39 <lardman|home> vm? qemu?
Jan 08 18:06:23 <mdl0871> wish my boyfriend can have happiness
Jan 08 18:07:05 <Stskeeps> with meego? naturally
Jan 08 18:07:06 <Stskeeps> :P
Jan 08 18:08:56 <mdl0871> what
Jan 08 18:09:04 <mdl0871> what do you mean£¿
Jan 08 18:09:32 <mihero> :)
Jan 08 18:09:51 <mdl0871> i will take part in postgraduate entrance examination
Jan 08 18:09:51 <lcuk> Stskeeps, planning Meego fleshlight UX?
Jan 08 18:10:00 <Raim> lcuk: araujo: I wrote the image again onto the SD card and now it works even with GUI
Jan 08 18:10:07 <lcuk> \o/
Jan 08 18:10:11 <lcuk> Raim, awesome
Jan 08 18:10:16 <CosmoHill> lcuk: did I just read that correctly?
Jan 08 18:10:43 <Raim> lcuk: strange enough that it was able to boot at all if the image wasn't completely transferred...
Jan 08 18:10:54 <lcuk> Raim, not really
Jan 08 18:11:15 <lcuk> i can play a CD even if the outer edge is broken, or I can play Wii games in same situation
Jan 08 18:11:16 <mdl0871> this room is for what?
Jan 08 18:11:29 <CosmoHill> mdl0871: www.meego.com
Jan 08 18:12:30 <mdl0871> i cant buy htc phone in china
Jan 08 18:12:46 <CosmoHill> that's okay, MeeGo doesn't run on HTC
Jan 08 18:13:27 <mdl0871> why?htc is available
Jan 08 18:13:37 <CosmoHill> you just said it wasn't
Jan 08 18:14:04 <mdl0871> what is meego?
Jan 08 18:14:12 <CosmoHill> go to the website I linked to you
Jan 08 18:14:24 <mdl0871> thank you
Jan 08 18:14:27 <iekku> mdl0871, www.meego.com would help as CosmoHill said?
Jan 08 18:14:48 <mdl0871> no
Jan 08 18:14:49 <mdl0871> hehe
Jan 08 18:15:54 <mdl0871> meego can only run on Linux system?
Jan 08 18:16:27 <CosmoHill> meego is a linux distros that runs on x86 intel HD netbooks or the Nokia n900
Jan 08 18:17:58 <mdl0871> why does the other people in this chatroom did not speak?
Jan 08 18:18:18 <thiago> because it's Saturday
Jan 08 18:18:19 <CosmoHill> cos it would be a nightmare if 500 people spoke at once
Jan 08 18:18:23 <mihero> we are silent bots
Jan 08 18:18:37 * CosmoHill oils mihero 
Jan 08 18:19:02 <mdl0871> hehe
Jan 08 18:19:28 <mdl0871>  which country are you in?
Jan 08 18:19:55 <mdl0871> i am chinese
Jan 08 18:20:04 <mihero> finland
Jan 08 18:20:22 <mdl0871> nice
Jan 08 18:20:38 <mdl0871> english is your mothertown language?
Jan 08 18:21:40 <CosmoHill> lcuk, ali1234, that FAQ wiki issue got fixed
Jan 08 18:21:52 <mdl0871> i have losed my boyfriend
Jan 08 18:22:08 <mdl0871> he loves an other
Jan 08 18:22:27 <CosmoHill> we're sorry to hear that but lets keep it on topic
Jan 08 18:22:31 <Stskeeps> mdl0871: we have a channel for that, #meego-bar :)
Jan 08 18:22:36 <kyb3R> :)
Jan 08 18:22:59 <mdl0871> thank you
Jan 08 18:35:15 <thorns> lardman|home: qemu or another VM if Meego can run under it
Jan 08 18:35:23 <thorns> sorry for late reply
Jan 08 18:43:42 <lardman|home> thorns: np, yes iirc it did work
Jan 08 18:44:06 <lardman|home> but I was trying to build an N900 image, so didn't do much with the SDK itself
Jan 08 18:44:20 <lardman|home> (trying and succeeding iirc)
Jan 08 18:45:03 <lardman|home> it did interfere with the maemo qemu install, which is what I use day to day, so I've not tried the meego version again
Jan 08 18:45:21 <lardman|home> s/install/installed version
Jan 08 19:42:53 <lcuk> stoopid computers
Jan 08 19:42:55 * lcuk kicks it
Jan 08 21:10:57 <berndhs> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk&feature=related
Jan 08 21:11:07 <berndhs> people won't wait for the speed of light :)
Jan 08 21:37:16 <pupnik> good topic for #meego-pub berndhs
Jan 08 21:38:19 <vgrade> #meego-bar
Jan 08 21:53:40 <dm8tbr> meh, I think I'll go back to a netbook-qemu image
Jan 08 21:53:51 <dm8tbr> there I know I can get X working
Jan 08 22:01:52 <pupnik> oh right
Jan 08 22:41:05 <dm8tbr> yaay, the latest available netbook-qemu image still crashes vbox4, also on windows
Jan 08 22:45:28 <dm8tbr> any outlook how long 'meego-netbook-ia32-qemu' will be broken?
Jan 08 22:58:51 <dm8tbr> mh I can't even find a bug on bmc that netbook qemu images are broken due to a rpm conflict?
Jan 08 22:59:05 <dm8tbr> does that mean nobody noticed yet?
Jan 08 22:59:57 <dm8tbr> http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.1.80.13.20110105.1/netbook/images/meego-netbook-ia32-qemu/
Jan 08 23:00:35 <dm8tbr> Failed to build transaction : pvr-bin conflicts with mesa-libGLESv2
Jan 08 23:00:53 <Stskeeps> there's a bug on that one
Jan 08 23:01:06 <Stskeeps> there was a .ks changeover so some things might break
Jan 08 23:01:36 <Stskeeps> http://qa-reports.meego.com/1.2/Core/Sanity/Netbook/615  , Key Issues:
Jan 08 23:01:36 <Stskeeps> * Meego can't start X successfully(12070)
Jan 08 23:02:15 <Stskeeps> anyhow, sleep
Jan 08 23:02:51 <dm8tbr> *nod*
Jan 08 23:02:53 <dm8tbr> here too
Jan 09 00:50:28 <CosmoHill> brb
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