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Jan 13 03:50:36 <Multiamedia> I have a dell duo flip screen and would like to use meego but I also want to use the touch screen any suggestions on which distro to use? Thanks
Jan 13 03:52:57 <Multiamedia> any one home ?
Jan 13 03:54:59 <Multiamedia> hello
Jan 13 06:25:20 <qgil_> X-Fade: ping
Jan 13 06:47:01 <Alison_Chaiken> Embedded Linux Conf proposals due 2/8: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/embedded-linux-conference/cfp
Jan 13 08:04:08 <qgil_> X-Fade: last ping today  :)
Jan 13 10:43:53 <thp> Stskeeps: where are the instructions for posting a source code request bug report in maemo? would like to see maemo-applet-tvout open sourced, so we can improve it for the community ssu
Jan 13 10:44:16 <Stskeeps> search for licensing change reques
Jan 13 10:44:17 <Stskeeps> ts
Jan 13 10:44:25 <Stskeeps> isn't it fairly easy to re-impl though
Jan 13 10:44:25 <Stskeeps> ?
Jan 13 10:45:11 <thp> Stskeeps: yes, but just changing existing, working and proven source is simpler and less error-prone
Jan 13 10:45:29 <thp> Stskeeps: and because it's so simple, I don't really see the need for it to be closed ;)
Jan 13 10:45:56 <Stskeeps> mm
Jan 13 10:50:15 <halvors1> Some phones with Meego Handset out?
Jan 13 10:53:38 <thp> Stskeeps: filed: https://bugs.maemo.org/11772 :)
Jan 13 10:53:41 <povbot> Bug 11772: Please put maemo-applet-tvout under an open source license
Jan 13 10:53:43 <MeeGoBot> Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11772 nor, Medium, ---, marko.helenius, NEW, IMG package is missing dependencies python-elementtree & python-xml
Jan 13 11:54:13 <sonydeepa> hi
Jan 13 11:54:27 <sonydeepa> how do I setup MeeGo emulator on my laptop
Jan 13 11:54:29 <sonydeepa> ?
Jan 13 12:22:19 <raghum> On Ubuntu 10.04, I try the following as a step for MIC2 ..
Jan 13 12:22:22 <raghum> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 0BC7BEC479FC1F8A
Jan 13 12:23:00 <raghum> gpg: directory `/home/raghuveer/.gnupg' created
Jan 13 12:23:00 <raghum> gpg: new configuration file `/home/raghuveer/.gnupg/gpg.conf' created
Jan 13 12:23:00 <raghum> gpg: WARNING: options in `/home/raghuveer/.gnupg/gpg.conf' are not yet active during this run
Jan 13 12:23:00 <raghum> gpg: keyring `/home/raghuveer/.gnupg/secring.gpg' created
Jan 13 12:23:00 <raghum> gpg: keyring `/home/raghuveer/.gnupg/pubring.gpg' created
Jan 13 12:23:00 <raghum> gpg: requesting key 79FC1F8A from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
Jan 13 12:23:00 <raghum> gpgkeys: key 0BC7BEC479FC1F8A not found on keyserver
Jan 13 12:23:01 <raghum> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
Jan 13 12:23:01 <raghum> gpg: Total number processed: 0
Jan 13 12:24:07 <raghum> In the WARNING it says some options need to be enabled. What options ? Any help ?
Jan 13 12:24:35 <Myrtti> for future, please use pastebin for pastes bigger than two lines...
Jan 13 12:25:15 <mwichmann> updating a 1.1 install... it's pulling deltarpms first, failing when applying, then pulling the full pkg
Jan 13 12:25:20 <mwichmann> for pretty much every pkg
Jan 13 12:25:28 <mwichmann> is this "expected behavior"?
Jan 13 12:26:28 <raghum> Myrtti, will take care of that in future.
Jan 13 12:27:17 <Myrtti> ♥
Jan 13 12:31:24 <dm8tbr> who else is going to fosdem? :)
Jan 13 13:04:43 <dneary> andre__, in case you're wondering, that comment was meant to be a joke
Jan 13 13:08:55 * lardman is back early, cambelt change too not much time
Jan 13 13:15:27 <CosmoHill> lcuk: .o/
Jan 13 13:16:01 <amjad> ping lbt
Jan 13 13:16:32 <Jaffa> amjad: He was going on holiday a couple of weeks ago - dunno if he's back yet
Jan 13 13:17:23 <amjad> thanks Jaffa., needed access to community obs ,is there any one here who can give me access to community obs ??
Jan 13 13:17:42 <X-Fade> amjad: I can.
Jan 13 13:18:30 <X-Fade> amjad: It seems you already have access :)
Jan 13 13:19:14 <amjad> i do when cobs was on build.obs,maemo.org . but the password that i have does not work with build.pub.meego.com
Jan 13 13:19:32 <X-Fade> amjad: use your meego.com account.
Jan 13 13:20:00 <X-Fade> amjad: It uses the same accounts as meego.com.
Jan 13 13:20:06 <CosmoHill> amjad: all *.pub*.m.c uses the same account
Jan 13 13:20:10 <amjad> ok
Jan 13 13:33:07 <amjad> X-Fade still can not log into build.pub.m.c?? i can get access to meego.com using same username and password but not to build.pub.m.com
Jan 13 13:34:50 <X-Fade> amjad: are you using the webui or osc?
Jan 13 13:35:21 <amjad> webui
Jan 13 13:35:39 <X-Fade> amjad: ok, should work. Will check what is going on.
Jan 13 13:37:57 <lbt> ah... thanks X-Fade
Jan 13 13:38:07 <lbt> hi Jaffa ... I am back today
Jan 13 13:38:16 <lbt> (well, monday really but in Hel)
Jan 13 13:42:11 <X-Fade> amjad: You didn't change your password recently, did you?
Jan 13 13:42:40 <amjad> i did for meego.com
Jan 13 13:42:52 <amjad> is that the issue??
Jan 13 13:43:08 <X-Fade> amjad: How long ago was that?
Jan 13 13:43:23 <amjad> well not long ago 40 mins ago
Jan 13 13:43:31 <X-Fade> amjad: Ok, then that is the issue.
Jan 13 13:43:36 <X-Fade> We sync once per hour.
Jan 13 13:43:40 <amjad> oh ok
Jan 13 13:43:54 <lbt> yup
Jan 13 13:44:01 <amjad> will try in after some time, thanks for the help
Jan 13 13:44:02 <lbt> just about to check that :)
Jan 13 13:44:04 <X-Fade> Should be ok around :59 ;)
Jan 13 13:44:08 <amjad> :)
Jan 13 13:44:32 <lbt> amjad: if you know your old passwd you should be able to use that for a bit
Jan 13 13:44:43 <amjad> ok
Jan 13 13:47:31 <steventao> Hi all, I have some problem to use meego-compliance-tools.
Jan 13 13:47:55 <steventao> Could someone provide me some command example about it?
Jan 13 13:49:28 <jarkko^> what is the official page to get qemu/kvm images of handset/netbook meego with web browser these days?
Jan 13 13:50:03 <jarkko^> this page http://wiki.meego.com/Getting_started_with_the_MeeGo_SDK_for_Linux_%28Original%29 has been deleted and this page http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Emulator_QEMU is marked for deletion..
Jan 13 13:50:45 <Stskeeps> they're moving them under SDK/
Jan 13 13:52:31 <jarkko^> do you mean under sdk directory under repo.meego.com?
Jan 13 14:18:43 <comawhite> is there a way to get meego on a ati laptop?
Jan 13 14:19:49 <lardman> intel?
Jan 13 14:20:14 <comawhite> intel c2d T6400 or is it T6500
Jan 13 14:21:28 <lardman> it's supposed to support Intel Atom, I don't know how specific that requirement is, you also might have issues with gpu drivers I guess
Jan 13 14:21:52 <lardman> there was a list of netbooks/etc. that it had been installed on in the wiki iirc, but I can't find it
Jan 13 14:22:05 <comawhite> I don't really need 3d support tbh, just as long as I can use it i'll be happy
Jan 13 14:23:22 <lardman> No idea, but good luck :)
Jan 13 14:58:08 <thebootroo> hello
Jan 13 14:58:12 <thebootroo> where
Jan 13 14:58:22 <thebootroo> is the dev of libconnman-qt ?
Jan 13 15:16:05 <lcuk> hey guys
Jan 13 15:16:49 <lcuk> thebootroo, dunno, who is the dev of libconnman-qt?  do you have a maintainer name/email to give hints
Jan 13 15:17:13 <thebootroo> he is tripzero
Jan 13 15:20:09 <Kevin_B> thebootroo tripzero s mail is kevron_m_rees@linux.intel.com
Jan 13 15:20:35 <thebootroo> hi KK you here ;-)  !!
Jan 13 15:21:56 <Kevin_B> Yo Mr Thebootroo, you can see comiter's adress in gitorious.org 's profile you know
Jan 13 15:22:03 <Kevin_B> ;)
Jan 13 15:22:05 <thebootroo> ooops
Jan 13 15:22:10 <thebootroo> you are right
Jan 13 15:22:13 <thebootroo> tj
Jan 13 15:22:15 <thebootroo> thx
Jan 13 16:02:52 <qgil> X-Fade: ping
Jan 13 16:02:56 <qgil> lbt: ping
Jan 13 16:03:05 <lbt> pong qgil
Jan 13 16:03:30 <qgil> hi! I was wondering if there is anything documented about Community OBS, extras/surrounds
Jan 13 16:03:51 <qgil> lbt: something that anybody could track from http://wiki.meego.com/Marketing/Meego.com_1.2_update
Jan 13 16:04:09 <lbt> no but I will be writing something
Jan 13 16:04:18 <qgil> lbt also if you have considered creating bug(s) for tracking the progress
Jan 13 16:04:20 <lbt> I wanted to do it over the break but didn't
Jan 13 16:04:26 <qgil> great, thank you lbt
Jan 13 16:04:41 <qgil> it's kind of weird that I get the blame for the corporate parts that are not too transparent...
Jan 13 16:05:02 <qgil> ... and also the blame for the parts of the project that are so community transparent that don't have any documentation either
Jan 13 16:05:13 <qgil> ending in the same result: being difficult to know what is really going on
Jan 13 16:05:34 <lbt> *nod*
Jan 13 16:05:56 <lbt> I/we really do need to get the balance adjusted a touch
Jan 13 16:06:14 <qgil> I'm chasing X-Fade tekojo and bergie for the same reasons for packages, catalog and planet - not very successfully I must say
Jan 13 16:06:29 <sivang> mwichmann: hey
Jan 13 16:06:46 <mwichmann> hello
Jan 13 16:06:47 * lbt goes to look when the next CO meeting is
Jan 13 16:06:56 <qgil> lbt: specially if you want to get feedback and contributors, as you appeared to want in some mails few weeks back lbt  :)
Jan 13 16:07:11 <lbt> yeah ... I was clearly needing a holiday :)
Jan 13 16:07:12 <sivang> mwichmann: when was it that you said we could do some brainstorming/ work on the compliance spec? February ?
Jan 13 16:07:57 <mwichmann> I don't know we set a precise time... but in a couple of weeks would work
Jan 13 16:08:05 <mwichmann> or earlier, I guess
Jan 13 16:08:17 <qgil> so the ideal setup is simple: a wiki page documenting what do you want to achieve with a piece of software + a connected bug report for anybody to follow the status and provide feedback lbt
Jan 13 16:08:41 <lbt> http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office#The_Task_Force_Approach_aka_You_Are_Not_Alone
Jan 13 16:08:43 <lbt> ?
Jan 13 16:09:03 <sivang> mwichmann: we didn't :) I was just trying to remind myself.
Jan 13 16:09:11 <qgil> lbt: ah, indeed  :)
Jan 13 16:09:42 <lbt> qgil: it's all coming back into focus..... :)
Jan 13 16:10:41 <qgil> lbt: please ping X-Fade bergie and tekojo if you happen to "see" them. All of them/you have a couple of mails from me (but no response) and every time I log in I try to find you/them - appreciated
Jan 13 16:10:53 <Myrtti> "it's all coming back to me, it was the one armed man!"
Jan 13 16:11:24 <lbt> qgil: OK, will do
Jan 13 16:11:37 <sivang> qgil: hey :)
Jan 13 16:11:49 <sivang> qgil: why is the qt cross platfrom is in inactive?
Jan 13 16:12:01 <qgil> hi sivang ???
Jan 13 16:12:06 <sivang> qgil: at http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office#The_Task_Force_Approach_aka_You_Are_Not_Alone
Jan 13 16:12:11 <sivang> qgil: heh, what's up?
Jan 13 16:12:31 <sivang> qgil: well, down beneath
Jan 13 16:12:36 <lbt> sivang: it doesn't have a task force page...
Jan 13 16:12:43 <lbt> so it's dead ... ?
Jan 13 16:12:48 <sivang> lbt: oh, so it has to have a task force to not be dead?
Jan 13 16:12:54 <qgil> wait
Jan 13 16:12:57 <sivang> :)
Jan 13 16:14:14 <qgil> sivang: what about inactive in the sense that there is no coordinator that has committed to specific tasks to a specific timeline? or...
Jan 13 16:14:18 <lcuk> sivang, its waiting for someone to come along and nurture it.  since you mentioned it..
Jan 13 16:14:37 <qgil> sivang: inactive in the sense that the task has unclear goals / tasks and lack of regular report?
Jan 13 16:15:11 <sivang> qgil: ah, okay , that can be fixed. I will send a status report.
Jan 13 16:15:14 <qgil> sivang: a lot of the tasks under "inactive" had someone proposing it, being active for a while and then disappearing or idling or moving to other things
Jan 13 16:15:45 <qgil> sivang: this is why I don't see as a bad thing being conservative from CO point of view and listing them under inactive
Jan 13 16:16:05 <qgil> sivang: the worst thing that can happen is that more people jump in, or the "old" coordinator shows up again
Jan 13 16:16:48 <sivang> qgil: sure, I'll send a status updated along with a request for contribution. The timeline thing is not simple in tis specific one
Jan 13 16:17:17 <sivang> qgil: e.g. it might need to follow developments with qt quick components and support on symbian
Jan 13 16:17:25 <sivang> qgil: which is not something we can predict so far
Jan 13 16:17:29 <qgil> sivang: please consider opening a bug to be used as status report of that task
Jan 13 16:17:50 <qgil> sivang: this will help you opening new dependent bugs to track and discuss specific tasks, etc
Jan 13 16:18:09 <sivang> qgil: sure
Jan 13 16:18:14 <qgil> sivang: than ks
Jan 13 16:21:55 <sivang> lcuk: I've been doing this since october 2010, btw
Jan 13 16:22:31 <sivang> qgil: so bug reportfor the taks, borken into smaller bugs that are dependant, regular report and clear goals is what needed to make it active?
Jan 13 16:22:34 <lcuk> so certainly not inactive and a mixup on the website then only :)
Jan 13 16:23:42 <sivang> lcuk: If only I could get the second chunk of slides from Munich, there's a great talk there by someone from futurice with some simple yet very effective guidelines to do cross Maemo/Symbian development without tearing hairs
Jan 13 16:23:42 <qgil> sivang: no need to create more process than what is useful for you: an updated wiki page and a related status bug report suffice - then any new wiki page or bug only when useful to track goals or problems
Jan 13 16:24:08 <qgil> sivang: why don't you look at the program and ask him directly?
Jan 13 16:24:20 <sivang> qgil: did tat , a *couple* of times already
Jan 13 16:24:27 <qgil> sivang: ah well
Jan 13 16:24:33 <sivang> noresponse s fa
Jan 13 16:24:46 <sivang> I think they can't publich the talks until Nokia does or somesuch
Jan 13 16:24:50 <qgil> sivang: even saying that this is for a meego.com thing etc etc?
Jan 13 16:24:58 <sivang> qgil: yep, I'm not new here :)
Jan 13 16:25:14 <qgil> sivang: well, happens to everybody  :)
Jan 13 16:25:17 <sivang> qgil: maybe you can write him as well? maybe some personal circumstnaces
Jan 13 16:25:23 <sivang> dunno
Jan 13 16:25:47 <sivang> qgil: so someone in #qt says new vidoes are online (I checkled every few days)
Jan 13 16:25:55 <sivang> qgil: Iwill take a look and if I find it, we wi
Jan 13 16:25:57 <sivang> win :)
Jan 13 16:26:19 <qgil> sivang: ask Ville - for the videos Alexandra Leisse might be a good contact too
Jan 13 16:30:28 <sivang> qgil: will do
Jan 13 16:47:38 <sivang> be back later
Jan 13 16:51:05 <stianhj_> Whatever happend to Silverlight on the MeeGo? I remember seeing a lot of blog posts about it..
Jan 13 17:06:25 <dneary> DawnFoster, Ping?
Jan 13 19:06:16 <mixpeg> hi all
Jan 13 19:06:28 <mixpeg> I have a problem with the connection pppoe
Jan 13 19:07:25 <mixpeg> how to make a pppoe connection?
Jan 13 19:07:58 <mixpeg> how to make a pppoe connection for asus eee pc 1015PED???
Jan 13 19:29:02 <alterego> qgil: ping :)
Jan 13 19:29:19 <qgil> alterego: pong, and yes  :)
Jan 13 19:29:26 <alterego> :)
Jan 13 19:29:57 <alterego> Cool, sorry about the communication synchronisation yesterday. I'm a bit ill at the moment so my internet activity is somewhat erratic.
Jan 13 19:30:04 <Alison_Chaiken> DawnFoster and qgil, are you planning to participate in the Embedded Linux Conference in April in SF?   The CFP closes on 2/8.    ELC is a venue where we should have some of (presentation, booth, informal BOF).  I was just on the phone with Ibrahim from LF urging him to offer his course, but he says he is just too busy.
Jan 13 19:30:38 <DawnFoster> Alison_Chaiken: I think that's hosted with the collab summit?
Jan 13 19:30:46 <DawnFoster> we'll have a meego day at the collab summit
Jan 13 19:30:52 <DawnFoster> similar to last year
Jan 13 19:31:43 <alterego> qgil: so should I expect a package soon? ;)
Jan 13 19:32:05 <qgil> alterego: at least an answer to your email  :)
Jan 13 19:32:20 <alterego> Hah, m'kay.
Jan 13 19:32:28 <DawnFoster> Alison_Chaiken: we should make sure that we get some talks submitted to ELC for MeeGo
Jan 13 19:32:45 <Alison_Chaiken> DawnFoster, you are correct, LCS is 4/6-4/8 in same hotel as ELC, which is 4/11-4/13.   I haven't attended either but suspect we will miss industry folks (smaller OEMs) if we only present at LCS.
Jan 13 19:33:10 <qgil> Alison_Chaiken DawnFoster aren't the ELC and the Collaboration Summit the same thing now? Anyway, let's not forget http://meego.com/community/events/2011/linux-collaboration-summit
Jan 13 19:33:32 <Alison_Chaiken> DawnFoster, I agree.    Since I am responsible for pitching OEMs, I want to have a strong show at ELC, which is after all local for me.
Jan 13 19:33:33 <qgil> ah, you type faster than me
Jan 13 19:34:17 <mwichmann> ELC merged into LF, so events are end-to-end (as they've been before)
Jan 13 19:34:22 <mwichmann> but not identical
Jan 13 19:34:34 <DawnFoster> actually, looks like they are a weekend apart
Jan 13 19:34:43 <DawnFoster> so maybe less overlap in attendees than I thought
Jan 13 19:34:52 <perolsen> what can the Nokia tool FLS-5 do?
Jan 13 19:34:58 <Alison_Chaiken> qgil, LCS is invite-only.    I'm sure all LF members are invited, but maybe not smaller companies we want to reach.   If we had a training class and hospitality suite and suchlike, we might be able to lure non-LF-members up to SF from Asian companies that have local reps.
Jan 13 19:35:26 <DawnFoster> Alison_Chaiken: might be good for you to post something to the meego-community mailing list
Jan 13 19:35:32 <Stskeeps> perolsen: am curious how that is related to meego :)
Jan 13 19:35:49 <Alison_Chaiken> I wish we would proactively invite people in the Bay Area who are not now considering MeeGo.
Jan 13 19:35:57 <DawnFoster> to make sure people don't miss the deadline and starting thinking about ELC
Jan 13 19:35:59 <perolsen> Stskeeps: Excellent question, I'll ask in another channel
Jan 13 19:36:57 <Alison_Chaiken> DawnFoster and qgil and assembled masses, does anyone know of MeeGo activity at ELC that is already in planning stage?  As always, I don't want to ignorantly duplicate efforts of others.   I will certainly ask on community mailing list.
Jan 13 19:37:29 <qgil> Alison_Chaiken: you are the ELC activity I know about
Jan 13 19:37:42 <Alison_Chaiken> Of course we can invite folks up to MeeGoCon in May, but ELC will hit a different audience.
Jan 13 19:37:57 <DawnFoster> Alison_Chaiken: we should check with the LF people running the CFP to see if they are already getting many meego submission
Jan 13 19:38:13 <Alison_Chaiken> Good idea, DawnFoster.    I will do that first.
Jan 13 19:38:36 <DawnFoster> Alison_Chaiken: if they aren't seeing many, then we know we have a lot of work to do :)
Jan 13 19:38:55 <Alison_Chaiken> Very good.  I have my assignment now!
Jan 13 19:39:30 <DawnFoster> Always happy to "help" :)
Jan 13 19:40:05 <Alison_Chaiken> BTW, DawnFoster, we had a very positive meeting with Intel folks at Nokia yesterday, and I met Amar Kona, a new outreach MeeGon who sits in Santa Clara.   He's coming up to Hillsboro soon and I suggested he get in your way straight off the bat.
Jan 13 19:40:34 <DawnFoster> Alison_Chaiken: cool, thanks!
Jan 13 19:47:56 <mixpeg> how to make a pppoe connection for asus eee pc 1015PED???
Jan 13 20:08:59 <lardman> hmm, that tablet ui demo looks nice: http://evolvethree.com.au/products/meego-slate.html
Jan 13 20:13:35 <RST38h> lardman: looks nice, if it works of course
Jan 13 20:13:51 <lardman> well yes :)
Jan 13 20:14:00 <lardman> I've no idea what the tablet ui looks like
Jan 13 20:14:09 <lardman> i.e. whether it even looks like this
Jan 13 20:33:12 <julienf> been a while, Happy New Year ALL!!
Jan 13 20:34:44 <Stskeeps> happy new year julienf
Jan 13 20:34:58 <lcuk> Merry Christmas too julienf !
Jan 13 20:40:08 <GeneralAntilles> Ω
Jan 13 20:42:47 <DawnFoster> welcome back julienf!
Jan 13 20:59:10 * mwichmann wonders why we think chromium is a "better user experience"
Jan 13 20:59:15 <mwichmann> what an utter piece of garbage
Jan 13 20:59:18 <mwichmann> </rant>
Jan 13 21:01:47 <lcuk> please be constructive so that we actually can improve things
Jan 13 21:02:19 <lcuk> yo javispedro
Jan 13 21:02:23 <Stskeeps> mwichmann: tried fennec-qt? :P
Jan 13 21:02:34 <javispedro> morning
Jan 13 21:02:42 <mwichmann> I'm going to try everything else, yes :)
Jan 13 21:03:08 <lcuk> i adore the Windows meme that started
Jan 13 21:03:29 <lcuk> windows comes installed with that blue icon called "Microsoft Firefox downloader" :D
Jan 13 21:04:04 <javispedro> but Microsoft is evil as usual and they bother you with popups about their Microsoft Firefox downloader!
Jan 13 21:04:11 <javispedro> right after starting Windows!
Jan 13 21:04:19 <javispedro> and they even say the european union made them do so!
Jan 13 21:04:22 <javispedro> how dare!!
Jan 13 21:04:46 <javispedro> </ ;) >
Jan 13 21:07:48 <mwichmann> well, if we want to rant, there's that "tablet tax if you're not running windows" in France, but I don't want to take up space with too much ranting
Jan 13 21:08:14 <mwichmann> just wonder about an os decision that doesn't seem... appealing, in the browser
Jan 13 21:08:58 <lcuk> specifically which browser does work well in the different form factors
Jan 13 21:09:22 <lcuk> and Stskeeps you seem to use ":P" too often, were you recommending fennec?
Jan 13 21:09:27 <Stskeeps> mwichmann: i can probably support webkit but chromium, hmm..
Jan 13 21:09:27 <Stskeeps> :P
Jan 13 21:09:40 <Stskeeps> lcuk: no, i hate fennec after getting it working on ARM for 1.1
Jan 13 21:10:01 <Stskeeps> trauma still sits in me
Jan 13 21:10:10 <lcuk> ok, why not microb?
Jan 13 21:10:10 <javispedro> haha
Jan 13 21:10:20 <Stskeeps> lcuk: ui is closed source
Jan 13 21:10:25 <lcuk> forgetting of course the closed front end, if we could get a binary
Jan 13 21:10:33 <javispedro> (haha was to fennec's trauma :) )
Jan 13 21:10:43 <lcuk> does it actually *work* on the form factor?
Jan 13 21:11:00 <opengeek_> I see a lot of maemo people here :)
Jan 13 21:11:08 <lcuk> (i am thinking not just handset, but also potentially inside netbook size devices
Jan 13 21:11:12 <lcuk> hi opengeek_ \o
Jan 13 21:11:46 <javispedro> hey opengeek_
Jan 13 21:12:11 <lcuk> Stskeeps, what is the actual backend of microb, is it original firefox? (I suppose someone like timeless would be better answering this)
Jan 13 21:12:13 <opengeek_> I want to ask something about the netbook version
Jan 13 21:12:30 <lcuk> ask away
Jan 13 21:12:41 <opengeek_> hola javispedro
Jan 13 21:12:44 <lcuk> we might not be able to answer of course :P
Jan 13 21:12:46 <javispedro> ahh
Jan 13 21:12:54 <javispedro> ok, just remembered who you are opengeek_ =)
Jan 13 21:13:11 <opengeek_> :)
Jan 13 21:13:50 <javispedro> so, feel free to shoot the question (or pm me if you want)
Jan 13 21:14:21 <opengeek_> I  think I've found a bug on meego netbook installer but I want to ask before
Jan 13 21:14:50 <opengeek_> it says I cannot install meego on disks with less than 3000 MB
Jan 13 21:15:16 <opengeek_> but my disk has 3816
Jan 13 21:15:28 <opengeek_> MB
Jan 13 21:16:24 <opengeek_> I have to report this somewere?
Jan 13 21:16:27 <javispedro> it might add a swap partition into the calculation (but tbh I have no idea)
Jan 13 21:16:54 <lcuk> that sounds like a reasonable hypothosis javispedro
Jan 13 21:17:12 <lcuk> opengeek_, it may be worth filing a bug, but it could simply be what javispedro says
Jan 13 21:17:24 <lcuk> btw, which disk are you using with 3816mb?
Jan 13 21:17:26 <javispedro> oh
Jan 13 21:17:29 <javispedro> bug #10917
Jan 13 21:17:32 <MeeGoBot> Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10917 nor, Medium, ---, vivian.zhang, NEW, Netbook installer fails to partition drives slightly larger than required minimum size.
Jan 13 21:17:35 <mwichmann> how does one turn off the automatic refreshing of repos by packagekitd?
Jan 13 21:17:48 <opengeek_> is a eeepc 4g
Jan 13 21:17:50 <mwichmann> because of my network situation, I need that to happen /only/ on demand
Jan 13 21:20:54 <opengeek_> were you discussing about browsers on meego handset?
Jan 13 21:22:36 <javispedro> probably netbook -- because of the weird chromium decision =)
Jan 13 21:22:57 <mwichmann> in my case, yes, whinging about netbook
Jan 13 21:23:50 <opengeek_> what about firefox4 they say is much better than 3.6
Jan 13 21:24:10 <opengeek_> (in resource usage terms)
Jan 13 21:25:05 <opengeek_> and about chromium, is fast and pass acid3 100% it's not bad at all
Jan 13 21:30:31 <berndhs> chromium is too bossy, tells you where you should have gone if it didn't find the site
Jan 13 21:31:53 <opengeek_> mm true
Jan 13 21:33:58 <opengeek_> then firefox/iceweasel, midori, rekonq, konqueror or epiphany
Jan 13 21:57:39 <lcuk> ooops, I made a typo on latest tweet
Jan 13 21:59:38 <lcuk> Texrat, who said I was joking :)
Jan 13 22:27:59 <crowgsm> hello
Jan 13 22:28:42 <crowgsm> is enyone here?
Jan 13 22:28:42 <araujo> hi
Jan 13 22:28:52 <araujo> yes :)
Jan 13 22:29:19 <crowgsm> lol i have 2 qestion abt wifi and meego
Jan 13 22:30:27 <crowgsm> i got eeepc 901 and i  cant install drivers any ideas??
Jan 13 22:30:57 <crowgsm> is say device cant be find\
Jan 13 23:45:45 <lcuk> o_O http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/01/13/2248207/Embedded-Linux-1-Second-Cold-Boot-To-QT
Jan 13 23:46:12 <lcuk> wth makes normal apps take longer to run?
Jan 13 23:49:01 <Raim> lcuk: if I understand correctly, they also boot the kernel in less than a second, not only the app
Jan 13 23:51:19 <javispedro> nearly every year a report about someone doing one boot seconds appears
Jan 14 00:01:20 <CosmoHill> javispedro: it would be nice if one year it was an OS
Jan 14 00:02:10 <javispedro> it's called Haiku
Jan 14 00:02:21 <javispedro> and MS-DOS
Jan 14 00:04:28 <CosmoHill> I can get MS-DOS on MSDN-AA :)
Jan 14 00:06:35 <Raim> CosmoHill: seriously? the lowest version I get is XP
Jan 14 00:07:08 <CosmoHill> i hate that you need a windows computer to download anything
Jan 14 00:07:21 <Raim> works with wine
Jan 14 00:07:23 <CosmoHill> you downlaod anything and the first thing you get is a 1kb .exe file :(
Jan 14 00:07:32 <CosmoHill> I'm on a ppc mac
Jan 14 00:07:33 <Raim> but the concept is still wrong
Jan 14 00:09:21 <CosmoHill> bitch is rejecting my username and password
Jan 14 00:27:48 <CosmoHill> Raim: I'm pretty sure I saw Dos 6.0 or something on there
Jan 14 00:28:24 <Raim> CosmoHill: as far as I know the products are specific to each university
Jan 14 00:28:43 <Raim> CosmoHill: so it's possible they offer that at yours but not at mine
Jan 14 00:28:43 <CosmoHill> yes, I asked if we could have the Win7 RC on ours and it got added
Jan 14 00:28:53 <CosmoHill> the down side is that some people aren't very smart
Jan 14 00:29:03 <CosmoHill> and wondered why their OS suddenly stopped working
Jan 14 00:48:13 <Termana> morning
Jan 14 00:59:12 <CosmoHill> hey Termana
Jan 14 00:59:24 <CosmoHill> you're getting out of bed just as I'm getting in
Jan 14 01:01:57 <berndhs> where is it morning now ?
Jan 14 01:06:23 <vgrade> aus
Jan 14 01:06:33 <CosmoHill> UK
Jan 14 01:06:44 <CosmoHill> but it's very early in the morning
Jan 14 01:11:23 <wmarone> vgrade: did you ever hit an issue where output from the kernel on boot was invisible, but still there?
Jan 14 01:18:48 <CosmoHill> someone remind me to go on a killing spree on monday
Jan 14 01:21:33 <berndhs> most jurisdictions really frown on killing sprees
Jan 14 01:22:34 <CosmoHill> yes but this is a forum
Jan 14 01:23:17 <berndhs> yeah but still, forum users are people too
Jan 14 01:23:39 <CosmoHill> i would be bots i'd be killing
Jan 14 01:23:58 <CosmoHill> i've taken a week of caring to demonstrate a point
Jan 14 01:24:03 <CosmoHill> *off
Jan 14 01:24:56 <berndhs> can't you just detain them indefinetely ? start your own gitmo maybe
Jan 14 01:25:55 <CosmoHill> i think the spam issue would be improved if we upgraded vbulletin to the current version
Jan 14 01:28:46 <CosmoHill> cyas
Jan 14 01:33:30 <vgrade> wmarone, I'm playing with kernels on the vega at he moment and all except the stock built one gives me a lank screen
Jan 14 01:34:47 <vgrade> there is a line commented out in the gtab tegrafb code I have seen which updates the screen
Jan 14 01:51:07 <steventao> morning
Jan 14 01:51:21 <vgrade> morning
Jan 14 01:51:56 <steventao> I am new developer about Meego. I have some problem to use app_compliance
Jan 14 01:52:23 <vgrade> not familiar with that,
Jan 14 01:52:25 <steventao> I try to use app_compliance -m ~/download/MeeGo-API-pkglist.txt ~/download/camera-adaption-layer-0.2.0-1.23.src.rpm
Jan 14 01:53:43 <steventao> It always show "Must specify options refimage, corelist and meego_api_pkglist"
Jan 14 01:53:55 <steventao> Is there anything wrong?
Jan 14 01:58:06 <vgrade> bug 11255 has some details on app_compliance which may give you some clues
Jan 14 01:58:09 <MeeGoBot> Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11255 nor, Undecided, ---, jian-feng.ding, NEW, Unable to generate report
Jan 14 02:00:13 <vgrade> time for bed in the UK, night
Jan 14 02:51:18 <wmarone> vgrade: thanks for the update
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