**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jan 23 02:59:57 2011 Jan 23 03:35:40 Anyone awake? Jan 23 03:36:23 Anyone know if the Jan 18th build of meego makes phone calls on a N900? Jan 23 03:37:12 It looks like it pretends to, but the call elapsed time is actually the clock time, and nothing ever connects. Jan 23 05:23:30 morning Jan 23 07:21:03 is anyone who is in the know about N9 allowed to talk about it? Jan 23 07:21:48 Hi All Jan 23 07:21:52 any body here? Jan 23 07:22:13 Heeeeey Jan 23 08:28:25 slavik1: I think that are two mutually exclusive groups of people. those who know and those who talk. bottom line all you hear is guessing. Jan 23 09:22:11 hallo Jan 23 09:22:47 ich habe ein kleines installationsproblem, kann ich hier auf deutsch fragen? Jan 23 09:23:12 english only, please. Jan 23 09:23:19 ok Jan 23 09:23:23 hi Jan 23 09:24:03 i have a little problem with installing the meego usb image Jan 23 09:24:14 on a usb stich Jan 23 09:24:15 k Jan 23 09:24:24 i am using win7 Jan 23 09:24:45 i downloaded the image Jan 23 09:25:09 and the win32 diskimager Jan 23 09:26:11 but after writing, the stick is no longer identified by win7 Jan 23 09:26:36 and boot with it is not working Jan 23 09:26:59 i set my bios to boot from usb Jan 23 09:27:02 morn thiago_home Jan 23 09:27:20 but it is not passing vram check Jan 23 09:27:34 what have i done wrong? Jan 23 09:28:52 the stick has a size of 800 mb now and i can format it back to normal size Jan 23 09:29:16 thiago_home: linaro 2010.12 doesn't seem to like qt too much / -arch armv6, http://pastie.org/ Jan 23 09:29:20 err.. Jan 23 09:29:28 http://pastie.org/1489296 Jan 23 09:32:06 no ideas? Jan 23 09:32:46 effchen: what device are you trying to install it on? Jan 23 09:33:04 ah Jan 23 09:33:07 netbook Jan 23 09:33:14 eee1000h Jan 23 09:33:36 but Jan 23 09:33:58 i tried it with my win7 desktop pc too Jan 23 09:34:04 same result Jan 23 09:34:27 did you bunzip2 the image first? Jan 23 09:34:30 / unpack it Jan 23 09:35:02 i do not unpack the image first Jan 23 09:35:25 well, that might be a reason Jan 23 09:35:42 the diskimager is asking for an .img... Jan 23 09:36:16 what url did you grab image from? Jan 23 09:36:21 and what guiddid you follow? Jan 23 09:36:23 guid Jan 23 09:36:23 e Jan 23 09:36:41 http://meego.com/downloads Jan 23 09:37:16 and netbook ones? Jan 23 09:37:31 yes with chrome Jan 23 09:38:00 and then http://meego.com/devices/netbook/installing-meego-netbook/windows-instructions ? Jan 23 09:38:55 i am trying to get nvidiafb to work in meego.. the kernel built fine, and modprobe works.. what do i need to do in xorg.conf to get it to use it Jan 23 09:38:58 yes, i will do it now once again Jan 23 09:39:11 tcs-meego: get xinerama-enabled xorg Jan 23 09:39:25 Stskeeps: thanks Jan 23 09:45:02 the instruction is very clear and easy, i guess i have not done anything wrong Jan 23 09:45:52 should i see files on the stick after writing the image? Jan 23 09:49:31 effchen: no Jan 23 09:49:34 afaik Jan 23 09:49:44 ok Jan 23 09:49:52 good -) Jan 23 09:59:23 ok, writing again Jan 23 10:05:33 ok i will try it now Jan 23 10:05:42 thx so far Jan 23 10:13:01 Stskeeps: there's no armv7 option Jan 23 10:15:20 Stskeeps: and those errors sound like compiler bugs Jan 23 10:15:22 k Jan 23 10:15:24 at least the error (not the warning) Jan 23 10:15:40 that's possible, of course Jan 23 10:15:53 just noting that i got a boatload of qt errors when trying to build with 2010.12 :) Jan 23 10:19:19 check linaro bugzilla (launchpad) Jan 23 10:19:27 they probably have it logged there already Jan 23 10:20:55 k Jan 23 10:37:51 great, it worked, thank you very much Jan 23 10:38:05 and it is running smooth :-) Jan 23 10:38:30 good Jan 23 10:38:37 great :-) Jan 23 10:39:13 i will install on hd now and hope internet is working then ^^ Jan 23 12:55:37 ok great meego is running on my eee1000h Jan 23 12:55:56 but i do not have wlan connection... Jan 23 12:56:00 how to? Jan 23 12:59:01 effchen|2, hrm it should just work (TM) Jan 23 12:59:39 no wlan is detected Jan 23 13:01:44 Hello Jan 23 13:02:15 Can i add more webaccounts to meego? like facebook? Jan 23 13:02:39 effchen|2, http://wiki.meego.com/Devices#Netbooks hmm Jan 23 13:03:12 I wonder why the 900A is listed as wifi having regression Jan 23 13:03:23 ie used to work, but broken now Jan 23 13:03:40 Teth0ruX, you can. you just need to write a plugin. Jan 23 13:04:15 smoku Hm... I thnik someone did write a plugin yet Jan 23 13:04:25 lan is doing fine Jan 23 13:04:31 wlan not Jan 23 13:04:39 i do an update now Jan 23 13:05:11 I had the same Problem.. Becaus of the Broacom chipcard... Jan 23 13:06:03 hey AstralStorm \o Jan 23 13:06:20 Teth0ruX, someone did? show me - I would like to install it too :) Jan 23 13:07:01 smoku No i don't have it :D But i think im not the only person who wants to user facebook on megoo :D Jan 23 13:07:58 lcuk, hello Jan 23 13:08:12 Teth0ruX, i was looking around, but I couldn't find facebook plugin available Jan 23 13:08:13 we need more virtual machines on cellphones ;P Jan 23 13:08:21 AstralStorm, how have you been recently? anything cool happening? Jan 23 13:08:33 smoku http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=1801 :( Jan 23 13:09:16 exactly Jan 23 13:09:39 hm fuck :D Jan 23 13:12:46 lcuk, everything non-cool happening Jan 23 13:12:57 AstralStorm, thats not good Jan 23 13:12:59 other than myself building rugged pc Jan 23 13:13:11 a rugged one? what chipset? Jan 23 13:13:30 SB 890FX Jan 23 13:13:45 and a custom power supply Jan 23 13:13:53 which I should patent Jan 23 13:14:30 see, the whole box is about the size of U2 rack Jan 23 13:14:51 and the power supply is transformerless high efficiency 500W of my own design Jan 23 13:15:04 the machine (no screen just yet) weighs 4 kg Jan 23 13:15:05 why do you have to make rugged rackmount? Jan 23 13:15:14 server room warfare? Jan 23 13:15:14 it's not rackmount Jan 23 13:15:22 that was just the size Jan 23 13:15:40 it's a portable machine in polycarbonate custom case Jan 23 13:15:52 large but light Jan 23 13:16:05 much like 19" laptop Jan 23 13:16:28 without a screen though? Jan 23 13:16:38 the screen will be delivered tomorrow Jan 23 13:16:46 I'm missing the right GPU Jan 23 13:16:51 I've about 120W TDP Jan 23 13:16:58 to spare for this Jan 23 13:17:08 maybe a bit more Jan 23 13:17:15 where do you need a plugin ruggedised desktop replacement? Jan 23 13:17:28 this one is experimental for myself Jan 23 13:17:36 I'm sick of compromises made in laptops Jan 23 13:18:00 I should add a small UPS to it Jan 23 13:18:17 heh Jan 23 13:18:33 slide out drawer for keyboard and mouse! Jan 23 13:18:46 almost like that, yeah Jan 23 13:18:58 and the screen hidden behind clear polycarbonate Jan 23 13:19:12 HP ZR22w btw Jan 23 13:19:15 (IPS, full hd) Jan 23 13:19:28 sweet Jan 23 13:19:36 you could embed touch sensors i nthe polycarbonate Jan 23 13:19:45 uhm... maybe Jan 23 13:19:49 and play doom, but using a real gun to aim/shoot Jan 23 13:19:50 but it's for protection Jan 23 13:20:09 you know, PC is real hard to damage ;p Jan 23 13:20:20 i once saw a monitor that survived arrows being fired at it Jan 23 13:20:48 everything is mounted on polyurethane heavy foam for vibration dampening inside Jan 23 13:21:00 cards are connected using cables Jan 23 13:21:19 laptop disks (yes, more than one) Jan 23 13:21:42 I'm still thinking about protecting ports for transport Jan 23 13:21:53 probably need some cover Jan 23 13:22:28 keyboard and mouse are connected via cable and there are "slots" to put them in Jan 23 13:22:29 air support? Jan 23 13:22:34 ? Jan 23 13:22:53 "probably need some cover" -> helicopter gunships provide good cover Jan 23 13:23:01 not that kind of cover Jan 23 13:23:07 I mean, cover for the ports Jan 23 13:23:16 probably gas-tight Jan 23 13:23:32 i know, am jesting - how does all this effect heat Jan 23 13:23:50 the fun part is that the heatsinks are... outside Jan 23 13:23:56 there's a hole for the GPU one Jan 23 13:24:10 the PSU generates little heat and needs no cooling Jan 23 13:24:27 CPU and chipset have one nice heatsink too Jan 23 13:24:36 large one, with heatpipe inside Jan 23 13:24:42 there won't be heat problems :) Jan 23 13:24:54 cool (literally) Jan 23 13:24:56 I was considering using water blocks instead Jan 23 13:25:08 they're more shock-resistant Jan 23 13:25:49 I'll try that with the second experimental machine Jan 23 13:26:01 heh Jan 23 13:26:35 the machine is supposed to stand upright like a tower Jan 23 13:26:46 is thinner though, need to attach some stand Jan 23 13:27:26 maybe I should use a wireless keyboard and mouse too Jan 23 13:28:07 really, the real innovative part is that PSU Jan 23 13:28:28 apparently nobody ever tried a transformerless ATX PSU Jan 23 13:28:58 where can i find the icq accounts.cfg? Jan 23 13:29:37 it is actually win efficiency-wise Jan 23 13:29:52 there are PSUs that are more efficient at some load, but not at such a wide range Jan 23 13:30:10 this one is modular, the controller will disable unused parts Jan 23 13:30:15 it needs no PFC (just slow start) Jan 23 13:30:38 and you can program maximum load per line Jan 23 13:30:51 Teth0ruX, hm Jan 23 13:31:02 (within reason - the transistors are rated for 5A) Jan 23 13:31:19 lcuk i need to change teh icq server Jan 23 13:31:49 that's up to 5A per line Jan 23 13:31:57 and there are multiple lines Jan 23 13:32:10 the main drawback of the design is that it's a bit more expensive than standard ATX Jan 23 13:32:34 (than normal flyback, not some hardcore SEPIC that rivals the efficiency) Jan 23 13:33:47 there are 8 5V lines and 4 12V lines Jan 23 13:34:24 each current-limited Jan 23 13:34:42 oh, and one 5Vsb Jan 23 13:35:28 and the PSU emits little if any EMI Jan 23 13:35:44 works at high frequencies, but there are few inductive elements Jan 23 13:35:55 (mostly solder) Jan 23 13:36:17 also supports PFM mode for low load operation Jan 23 13:36:21 Teth0ruX, I did not know you could use different servers with icq Jan 23 13:36:59 lcuk hm i dont know.. i got some network errors when i want to connect my icq or msn accounts Jan 23 13:37:27 input is of course protected by an RCD and automatic series protector Jan 23 13:37:41 Teth0ruX, did the errors only just start this morning? Jan 23 13:37:53 and (tech support idea) did you turn it off and back on again? Jan 23 13:38:16 who uses ICQ anyway ;p Jan 23 13:38:52 AstralStorm, obviously Teth0ruX does or he would not be asking Jan 23 13:38:53 lcuk , i added the accounts and when i want to log in the accounts ther came the error Jan 23 13:39:10 Teth0ruX, ok, so this is first time configuring it? Jan 23 13:39:24 yes Jan 23 13:39:35 which image/version are you using? Jan 23 13:39:48 the netbook img Jan 23 13:40:23 yes Teth0ruX - which? Jan 23 13:40:33 latest bleeding edge or stable 1.1 etc Jan 23 13:40:38 ähm the 1.1 Jan 23 13:40:47 with the newest update Jan 23 13:41:36 2.6.35.3-12,2 -netbook Jan 23 13:41:41 thx Jan 23 13:42:07 Teth0ruX, does bug 5779 offer a potential reason/way to move forward Jan 23 13:42:11 Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5779 nor, Medium, ---, robert.bradford, NEW, user must enter literally username@xxxx.xxx, not just username. Jan 23 13:42:14 ie were you just entering your name Jan 23 13:42:33 hi@all... I just downloaded moblin, couldnt get my umts stick (huawei) to work and plan to give meego a shot, as its the continuation. Any guess if I can make this work there? Jan 23 13:42:56 the real thing about that PSU: it's 80+ at almost 0 load Jan 23 13:43:00 and 90+ at full load Jan 23 13:43:01 r4co0n, download usb image and try it! Jan 23 13:43:18 maybe even a tiny bit better inbetween, haven't tested Jan 23 13:43:18 then come back and report it, since you have the specific stick, you are in best place to test Jan 23 13:43:23 im already doing that, the 'stable' release, right? Jan 23 13:43:24 and if it doesn't: file a bug Jan 23 13:43:29 yea Jan 23 13:43:51 Gonna report here if it works... Jan 23 13:44:02 good ATX PSUs are like 92+ at 80% load or so, but ~30 at low load Jan 23 13:44:29 lcuk the error appears when i click Apply... Jan 23 13:44:32 * lcuk goes cleaning kitchen Jan 23 13:44:44 Another question: I got an N900, is it wise to upgrade it already or shall i wait? I dont plan on doing some dual-boot setup... Jan 23 13:44:54 lcuk a short thime megoo try to connect icq but after that the error appears Jan 23 13:45:36 Teth0ruX, if you clean my kitchen for me I will look at the error report Jan 23 13:45:48 ;) Jan 23 13:46:06 lcuk Okay :) wher do you live :D Jan 23 13:46:10 e Jan 23 13:46:27 one of the 450 people over there must know something about IM configuration on meego >>>>>> Jan 23 13:46:43 449 Jan 23 13:46:56 448 actually Jan 23 13:47:12 447, i dont know anything Jan 23 14:00:30 i tried http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=2016&highlight=network+error Jan 23 14:00:34 but the same error Jan 23 14:02:07 good morning from austria Jan 23 14:02:48 gud morning Jan 23 14:03:15 USB stick ready, gonna test meego on my grandmas fujitsu m2010. did i ask like that: Is it granny proof? Jan 23 14:03:20 oh, my first attemt and successful Jan 23 14:03:56 n900-space, have u got experience with meego on the n900? Jan 23 14:04:07 r4co0n: there isn't a test for grannies at the moment Jan 23 14:04:22 r4co0n: does that computer have SSSE3 and an intel graphics chip? Jan 23 14:04:55 if you can habdle it then your gandma will also handle it... Jan 23 14:05:11 not yet r4co0n , i just bought a wintec class 10 card just for that purpose Jan 23 14:06:22 n900-space, id appreciate you posting your experience with it somewhere, meego garage? Jan 23 14:06:46 cosmohill, positive on the intel gpu Jan 23 14:07:00 is it a GMA500? Jan 23 14:07:04 check on the other thing... Jan 23 14:07:15 its a fujitsu m2010 Jan 23 14:07:20 is the processor an intel atom Jan 23 14:07:21 ? Jan 23 14:07:26 positive Jan 23 14:07:35 then you will have SSSE3 Jan 23 14:07:45 well posting the experience is not a problem, i just have to install it on the usd card, but i cant do it today for sure i guess, maybe in a day or 2 Jan 23 14:08:07 looking forward to your post Jan 23 14:08:27 sse3 is a chip command set like mmx was aint it? Jan 23 14:09:04 SSSE3, three Ss, it's an instruction set Jan 23 14:09:38 k, brb, gonna come on from my pc, gotta meego this netbook. Jan 23 14:10:21 is this os still supported Jan 23 14:11:45 anyone here Jan 23 14:11:58 + Jan 23 14:12:28 linuxman410: yes this is still supported, it's only 11 months old Jan 23 14:12:53 will it run on a asus eeepc 701 Jan 23 14:13:12 does it have an Intel Atom and an Intel graphics chip that is not the GMA500? Jan 23 14:13:49 it have intel graphics but no atom processsor Jan 23 14:14:01 Intel Celeron? Jan 23 14:14:06 yeah Jan 23 14:14:14 pre Intel Atom eeepcs? Jan 23 14:14:25 yeah Jan 23 14:14:34 I don't think MeeGo will run on your computer Jan 23 14:14:52 you can look up your specific processor and see if it has SSSE3 support (three Ss) Jan 23 14:15:00 ok thanks i was just looking for a new os for it Jan 23 14:15:11 may I suggest windows 7? Jan 23 14:15:24 just kidding :) Jan 23 14:15:24 i don't do windows Jan 23 14:15:50 you could go on distro watch and have a look at the distros on there Jan 23 14:16:28 do you think a lite version of fedora would work like lxde' Jan 23 14:17:44 on my asus eee pc i got debian lxde set up without swap, only drawback is the suspend-to-disk not working. meego suggests swap space, does it need it or may i continue without? Jan 23 14:18:20 swap would be recommend for all linux systems Jan 23 14:18:36 in fact it would be recommended for all systems. Jan 23 14:18:37 it was debian-eee who said its fine to go without some time ago Jan 23 14:19:02 ima leave it like suggested :) Jan 23 14:19:10 depending upon your usage you may be fine but as soon as you run out of RAM the computer will hang Jan 23 14:20:32 thats for sure, but how to get a netbook use its 3gb ram on watching videos, listening to music and surfing the webs. highly unlikely, id state... u could also go for emergency swap to file to be on the save side Jan 23 14:20:40 *2gb Jan 23 14:21:08 I try anything but i got the same netwrok error... Jan 23 14:23:46 @teth0rux I just joined in, are you sure your network is setup correctly? everything else works? Jan 23 14:23:58 any kind of firewall running? Jan 23 14:24:29 r4co0n1 hm i installed meego 2 houres ago.. i dont install any firewall,... Jan 23 14:24:36 k Jan 23 14:24:43 msn works now, but not icq Jan 23 14:24:58 icq working from winbox/etc in network? Jan 23 14:25:14 u use pidgin dont u? Jan 23 14:25:30 hm i use the programm which is installed on megoo Jan 23 14:25:41 with that little pidgeon? Jan 23 14:25:53 empathy Jan 23 14:25:57 k Jan 23 14:26:09 should i install pidgeon Jan 23 14:27:16 thats what i wanted to suggest u trying right now Jan 23 14:27:47 but i dont know how empathy is integrated in meego, just installing rn, maybe pidgin doesnt work as easy Jan 23 14:28:25 Teth0ruX, i hear from little birdie you should ask in #telepathy channel, be specific about the versions and error messsages obtained Jan 23 14:29:05 lcuk_in_kitchen okay :D Thanks Jan 23 14:33:09 maemo was complaining on my granny having a weak password, this functionality seems to have been dropped from meego, where to file this wishlist bug? Jan 23 14:34:47 Stick has been detected out-of-the-box, thumb up for meego! Jan 23 14:40:28 lcuk_in_kitchen: is this little birdy about to be put in the oven? Jan 23 14:40:56 CosmoHill, I hope not, he is a respected member of collabora. Jan 23 14:41:16 are there non-repected members? Jan 23 14:47:59 andre__: ping Jan 23 14:48:41 Stskeeps, pong Jan 23 14:50:07 aemo was complaining on my granny having a weak password, this functionality seems to have been dropped from meego, where to file this wishlist bug? Jan 23 14:50:15 *m Jan 23 15:13:40 araujo, ping, did you by chance get to see if puzzle-master builds on meego n900? Jan 23 15:14:29 * lcuk playing it on meego on ideapad right now you see :P Jan 23 15:15:11 now I see why I don't update clamav much, it takes forever to compile Jan 23 15:20:55 lcuk no ideas there Jan 23 15:21:36 Teth0ruX, bah humbug Jan 23 15:21:55 is there a debug mode that it can be run in perhaps? Jan 23 15:23:05 How to easily reboot a meego os? I switch to tty1 ctrl+alt Jan 23 15:23:17 +f1 and hit ctrl+alt+del? Jan 23 15:23:28 thats not how its supposed to work is it? Jan 23 15:23:33 r4co0n: You can issue the command: sudo shutdown -r now Jan 23 15:23:42 yeah Jan 23 15:23:42 afternoon jeremiah Jan 23 15:23:47 thats not easy sry Jan 23 15:23:50 :) Jan 23 15:23:50 Hey Stskeeps! Jan 23 15:23:58 i wanna click sth Jan 23 15:23:58 lcuk yea but there isnt anything wrong Jan 23 15:24:01 jeremiah: you'd be at FOSDEM too? Jan 23 15:24:16 Stskeeps: Yeah, hoping to talk a little about MeeGo IVI, but we'll see Jan 23 15:24:22 Stskeeps: Are you speaking? Jan 23 15:24:24 so theres no shutdown menu implemented as of yet? Jan 23 15:24:52 jeremiah: in embedded devroom about meego hardware adaptations Jan 23 15:24:56 jeremiah: no idea what day yet though :P Jan 23 15:24:58 Awesome. Jan 23 15:25:11 Stskeeps, take a bullhorn and shout from rooftop! Jan 23 15:25:26 capture all the smokers outside for an adhoc talk :P Jan 23 15:25:38 Yeah, there are only like 5,000 people there so a bullhorn might reach the biggest audience Jan 23 15:25:41 i suppose u never have to reboot a linux netbook and thats why the power button shuts down and thats it... right guess? Jan 23 15:26:12 though that is unfortunate when it comes to multi-boot systems Jan 23 15:33:09 r4co0n: There should be a way to shutdown and/or restart from one of the menus. Jan 23 15:33:35 I run debian here and my version of MeeGo is the IVI one so I can tell you exactly what you should click to restart. Jan 23 15:33:55 jeremiah, what do IVI computers do when you turn off the ignition Jan 23 15:33:56 But that is only useful on IVI, I assume you're running the netbook version of MeeGo Jan 23 15:33:59 do they hibernate/sleep? Jan 23 15:34:03 there is debian meego? Jan 23 15:34:15 i run debian everywhere else, gotta go for it... Jan 23 15:34:16 r4co0n: There are MeeGo libraries in Debian. Jan 23 15:34:48 But you'll have to do some work to get a MeeGo-like desktop to pop up on a vanilla Debian install Jan 23 15:35:09 lcuk: I'm not exactly sure. Power management is a hot topic in automotive, as you might imagine. Jan 23 15:35:32 i still use standard kernels, is it working with them as well? Jan 23 15:35:34 The automotive environment is special because you have this huge spike in power when you turn on the ignition Jan 23 15:35:44 jeremiah, yeah so pushing and making sure meego core power management/suspect/hibernate working would be a really good thing Jan 23 15:35:51 r4co0n: Yeah, MeeGo takes the upstream kernel. Jan 23 15:35:52 suspend Jan 23 15:36:15 jeremiah, do IVI devices have wifi? Jan 23 15:36:32 can you setup an adhoc network with your other devices in the car? Jan 23 15:36:42 Bluetooth is the major connectivity protocol for obvious reasons. Jan 23 15:36:52 But wifi is possible, based on hardware used of course. Jan 23 15:37:03 jeremiah, so i get all the debian benefits (security,...) while having a full functional meego? sorry for not asking precisely from the beginning... Jan 23 15:37:19 well I was thinking wifi because sending video streams to users in the back seats etc Jan 23 15:37:51 r4co0n: Yeah, but it will take a little hackery to make things the way you want it. You can join the MeeGo package porting team, there are people already doing the porting work. Jan 23 15:38:12 lcuk: That is probably going to go over an internal network, like MOST. Jan 23 15:38:38 There is also something called CAN (Car Area Network) which is already in the Linux kernel Jan 23 15:38:41 but my phone supports wifi and not MOST Jan 23 15:38:46 But I don't know that it is fast enough. Jan 23 15:38:50 and my laptop/slate supports wifi Jan 23 15:39:32 Yeah, but that will likely be supported through some sort of hardware connection and not wifi. Jan 23 15:39:42 Just because wifi opens some security concerns. Jan 23 15:39:51 But I suspect they'll have wifi in the end Jan 23 15:40:09 yeah Jan 23 15:40:21 i was speaking with the lead developer of connman yesterday (i think he is anyway) Jan 23 15:40:32 Still, there is a lot of focus on the protocols that have already been developed becuase of the need to shield the data on the network from interference Jan 23 15:40:36 and he dislikes wifi security (for ad-hoc at least) Jan 23 15:40:38 http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12686#c3 Jan 23 15:40:54 we had a great chat about missing ad-hoc support in meego base connman component Jan 23 15:40:55 :) Jan 23 15:41:10 he actually said it should be trivial to implement Jan 23 15:41:13 lcuk: can you tell this guy to get a move on it with the IPv6 please :) Jan 23 15:41:15 connman is definitely a focus in IVI development. Jan 23 15:41:32 berndhs, join #connman, see the mailing list archives and discussions etc Jan 23 15:41:36 BMW has spent some time on it and contributed. Jan 23 15:41:56 there were a boatload of intel patches given to connman yesterday Jan 23 15:43:44 (1 boatload == 3 hogsheads) Jan 23 15:44:08 wlan still not working :-( Jan 23 15:44:26 effchen|2, did you see the notes about other devices needing to rebuild the driver? Jan 23 15:44:38 no Jan 23 15:44:42 i am not sure, but perhaps same instructions are needed until real reason why Jan 23 15:44:49 I posted a link to the devices thing earlier Jan 23 15:45:02 i noticed some wifi cards needed rebuilding on different devices Jan 23 15:45:21 http://wiki.meego.com/Devices#Netbooks Jan 23 15:46:17 but eee1000h is confirmed Jan 23 15:47:40 but on mine its not detected Jan 23 15:48:46 effchen|2, i do not know more since I don't have one myself, i wonder if someone else does Jan 23 15:57:35 * CosmoHill tinkers with clamav.spec Jan 23 15:59:01 hm how can i reinstall teh mesaanger? Jan 23 16:03:47 Teth0ruX: You can use zypper to remove it, then reinstall it Jan 23 16:03:49 added Fujitsu M2010 to meego wiki device support list... Jan 23 16:07:50 ok, problem solved Jan 23 16:08:11