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Feb 07 03:00:01 <berndhs> looks fluent
Feb 07 03:06:59 <JunJi> Anybody could run the qemu-n900-pr1x as a runtime on madde? I made it by copying the absent file from nokia qt but can't connect using ssh.. guess it has a different username not meego as usual
Feb 07 03:09:56 <Jartza> Sources: Nokia to Abandon Symbian/Meego, Adopt Windows Phone 7, and Move its HQ to U.S.
Feb 07 03:10:09 <Jartza> http://technmarketing.com/cellphone/sources-nokia-to-abandon-symbianmeego-adopt-windows-phone-7-and-move-its-hq-to-u-s/
Feb 07 03:10:39 <Jartza> :)
Feb 07 03:12:08 <berndhs> I should make one up too
Feb 07 03:12:49 <wmarone> oh you posted it here too
Feb 07 03:12:59 <Jartza> berndhs: how about "Nokia to abandon Qt and ARM...."
Feb 07 03:13:09 <Jartza> :)
Feb 07 03:15:24 <JunJi> hmm.. the news is surprising
Feb 07 03:15:32 <wmarone> that's not news
Feb 07 03:17:00 <JunJi> true. just a source
Feb 07 03:17:10 <wmarone> it's a
Feb 07 03:17:15 <wmarone> "source" which could be anything
Feb 07 03:19:49 <berndhs> could be someone who wants movement in Nokia stock
Feb 07 03:20:34 <wmarone> sure, which is why all those "financial analysts" have been speaking up on the matter
Feb 07 03:20:43 <wmarone> despite knowing as little as anyone else
Feb 07 03:22:09 <Jartza> wmarone: or less :)
Feb 07 03:26:03 <TSCHAKeee> I really like the joggler hardware
Feb 07 03:26:17 <TSCHAKeee> it's a shame that OpenPeak doesn't sell to the public
Feb 07 03:33:11 <wmarone> TSCHAKeee: sorta like Aava
Feb 07 03:33:32 <wmarone> I'd love to get my hands on their hardware, but not at $2k :/
Feb 07 03:33:46 <TSCHAKeee> i got an invitation to get the AAVA CDK, but i didn't have the cash at the time
Feb 07 03:34:11 <TSCHAKeee> but really, the phone i am more interested in, if i'm going to get a CDK? The TI Blaze
Feb 07 03:34:20 <TSCHAKeee> they crammed a #@(%#@( DLP PROJECTOR IN IT!
Feb 07 03:34:29 <wmarone> blaze isn't a phone though, it's a monster devkit
Feb 07 03:34:31 <wmarone> well
Feb 07 03:34:35 <wmarone> I'm sure you can make it work like one
Feb 07 03:34:41 <TSCHAKeee> yeah, i know
Feb 07 03:34:45 <wmarone> but if you thought the streak was silly as a phone... :D
Feb 07 03:34:48 <TSCHAKeee> i would argue the same thing about the aava
Feb 07 03:35:02 <wmarone> technically, yes
Feb 07 03:35:03 <TSCHAKeee> or the LG wtf-was-it-990
Feb 07 03:35:08 <wmarone> yes
Feb 07 03:35:16 <TSCHAKeee> aka the TYCHO MONOLITH
Feb 07 03:35:19 <berndhs> the future of displays is projectors, teensy ones :)
Feb 07 03:35:21 <wmarone> blaze is something else entirely (we had one at the office a while back)
Feb 07 03:35:59 <TSCHAKeee> i saw the blaze at a show not too long ago
Feb 07 03:36:10 <TSCHAKeee> and flipped out
Feb 07 03:36:15 <TSCHAKeee> was like whoooa
Feb 07 03:36:39 <TSCHAKeee> it's one of the reasons I like the pandaboard so much.. OMAP4 has a LOT of potential
Feb 07 03:36:55 <TSCHAKeee> I'm wanting to support the PandaBoard as a media director, soon
Feb 07 03:36:59 <TSCHAKeee> (for linuxmce)
Feb 07 03:37:03 <wmarone> oh yeah, the blaze is cool
Feb 07 03:37:05 <TSCHAKeee> to replace the x86 stuff
Feb 07 03:37:40 <TSCHAKeee> you know... I came from Texas.. and.. TI has always been...that quiet company...
Feb 07 03:37:50 <TSCHAKeee> ...that just sells silicon to everybody else...
Feb 07 03:38:16 <TSCHAKeee> it really surprised me when i started seeing the omap3 and omap4, and how aggressive they're pushing it
Feb 07 03:38:24 <TSCHAKeee> not just in the traditional channels
Feb 07 03:38:41 <TSCHAKeee> but wanting to cultivate a hobbyist community too out of it
Feb 07 03:38:49 <TSCHAKeee> genuinely so
Feb 07 03:39:11 <TSCHAKeee> it puts a smile on my face.
Feb 07 03:57:06 <GAN900> Woo TI
Feb 07 09:01:57 <Alex-Meego> is there radio RDS support in meego IVI nowadays?
Feb 07 10:00:02 <Avinash> hi
Feb 07 10:00:24 <Stskeeps> hi
Feb 07 10:01:00 <Avinash> Does any one have idea to get OBS credentials for meego?
Feb 07 10:01:23 <X-Fade> Avinash: For which obs? Core or community?
Feb 07 10:02:06 <Avinash> X-Fade:For Core
Feb 07 10:02:25 <Avinash> x-fade: sorry i am a n00b ... please dont mind
Feb 07 10:02:33 <X-Fade> Avinash: Then you need to file a bug requesting access.
Feb 07 10:02:53 <X-Fade> Avinash: And describe there what you are working on and why you need an account.
Feb 07 10:03:45 <Avinash> i want to start a project on speech recognition api for meego
Feb 07 10:07:48 <Avinash> X-Fade:can  you help me in providing some pointers for receiving obs credentials....
Feb 07 10:07:48 <Venemo_N900> good morning
Feb 07 11:07:15 <arfoll> will the mrst-mtf images work on the aava DV1?
Feb 07 11:07:59 <Stskeeps> give it a try?
Feb 07 11:08:45 <arfoll> i guess i'll have to
Feb 07 11:13:13 <Alex-Meego> is there radio RDS support in meego IVI nowadays?
Feb 07 11:13:49 <Stskeeps> Alex-Meego: if your kernel supports it, maybe the rds daemon you found the other day works
Feb 07 11:16:21 <Alex-Meego> thanks
Feb 07 11:20:21 <Alex-Meego> another questing: after connecting usb gps device to meego ivi I have new /dev ttyUSB0. But when I start lightmaps demo from QtMobility I get "Warning: Unable to get connection to Geoclue bus ... CRITICAL: dbus_g_proxy_call: assertion 'DBUS_IS_G_PROXY (proxy)' failed. Segmentation fault (core dumped)". How to start and use geoclue and its daemons?
Feb 07 11:31:36 <poutsi> hey, when installing the sdk onto netbook, do the releases have to match? the sdk install docs give the option of specifying the sdk repo to be "meego/trunk" or "meego/1.1" but don't really say what the choice means
Feb 07 12:05:36 <igo> I heared that Nokia will give up MeeGo. Is this right?
Feb 07 12:06:49 <poutsi> igo, if that happens, I'm sure you will be able to read about it at meego.com
Feb 07 12:09:12 <Stskeeps> igo: rumours say a lot, yet we're still at work
Feb 07 12:13:07 <Alex-Meego> on 11th we will know more about Nokia plans
Feb 07 12:29:48 <arfoll> ok looks like mrst image doesn't work on aava :-(
Feb 07 12:29:55 <Stskeeps> ia32-mtf ?
Feb 07 12:32:27 <arfoll> Stskeeps, no that doesn't work, i've tried that before
Feb 07 12:33:04 <Stskeeps> ok
Feb 07 13:29:46 <Alex-Meego> help me with GPS, please. May be someone knows (Sorry for the same question again who read this).
Feb 07 13:30:02 <Alex-Meego> after connecting usb gps device to meego ivi I have a new /dev ttyUSB0. But when I start lightmaps demo from QtMobility I get "Warning: Unable to get connection to Geoclue bus ... CRITICAL: dbus_g_proxy_call: assertion 'DBUS_IS_G_PROXY (proxy)' failed. Segmentation fault (core dumped)". How to start and use geoclue and its daemons?
Feb 07 13:30:54 <Alex-Meego> I've been researching this problem for few hours but nothing got
Feb 07 13:31:10 <Stskeeps> is geoclue started?
Feb 07 13:31:27 <Alex-Meego> * I have no experience with geoclue. So how should I start it?
Feb 07 13:31:39 <Stskeeps> install it? :P
Feb 07 13:33:03 <Alex-Meego> zypper search geoclue finds 2 items: geoclue (installed) and its -devel
Feb 07 13:34:03 <Alex-Meego> so I think that it was installed
Feb 07 13:34:39 <Stskeeps> ok
Feb 07 13:34:49 <Stskeeps> are you running as root or meego?
Feb 07 13:34:57 <Alex-Meego> yes. Meego IVI
Feb 07 13:35:10 <Alex-Meego> as root from xTerminal
Feb 07 13:35:27 <Stskeeps> as root might be an issue?
Feb 07 13:35:48 <Alex-Meego> hm... root may be as problem in that case?
Feb 07 13:36:02 <Alex-Meego> i'll retry
Feb 07 13:38:32 <Alex-Meego> so I tried to start from file manager and from new terminal without accessing root - there's no reaction when I start. Nothing happens. No output to terminal
Feb 07 13:40:50 <Alex-Meego> Stskeeps, do you have an idea?
Feb 07 13:40:57 <Stskeeps> no sorry
Feb 07 13:41:19 <Alex-Meego> well, dzięki za pomoc
Feb 07 13:47:26 <Alex-Meego> Now I even get "gypsy_control_create: assertion 'device_name != NULL' ..."
Feb 07 13:50:52 <rsadhu> hi
Feb 07 13:50:54 <rsadhu> there
Feb 07 13:51:21 <rsadhu> i need help, on maemo platform , i need  a way to receive an screen change event on a mobile device (dali)
Feb 07 13:52:01 <andre__> rsadhu: this is a meego channel. #maemo is for maemo.
Feb 07 13:52:24 <rsadhu> ok andre
Feb 07 13:52:50 <rsadhu> but both are using qt as an application framework
Feb 07 13:52:58 <rsadhu> so i tried QDesktopWidget class
Feb 07 14:19:10 <maximus76> hi
Feb 07 14:19:19 <Alex-Meego> hi
Feb 07 15:48:51 <jeremiah> X-Fade: ping
Feb 07 15:49:08 <jeremiah> Is the way to get a log in to the MeeGo OBS still just to file a bug?
Feb 07 15:51:42 <andre__> jeremiah: yes (at least according to the new tickets that I see :-P )
Feb 07 15:54:03 <KevinB> People! R you ready to welcome the new wP7 powered by Nokia, next Fiday :D?
Feb 07 15:54:18 <Stskeeps> KevinB: don't troll
Feb 07 15:54:18 <Stskeeps> :P
Feb 07 15:56:27 <KevinB> haha, I knew was going to get lynched for saying this ;)
Feb 07 15:57:58 <chem|st> KevinB: no we don't, but strap your pants and hang you to the top notch of the boat
Feb 07 15:58:05 <Matan[M]> oh god... WP7 sux...
Feb 07 15:58:30 <chem|st> Matan[M]: you can tell that in general µsoft sux
Feb 07 15:59:24 * Matan[M] thinking in Polish language about wp7 "co za gówno to jest... niech to spłonie razem z tym całym gównem win-gównem, moje ręce są zbrukane ścierwem z MS"
Feb 07 15:59:46 <KevinB> As long as Nokia doesnt change its long term strategy, never mind its short term one (money money money , must B funny)
Feb 07 16:01:38 <Matan[M]> if nokia will produce phones with WP7 is a stop to buy any smarthone
Feb 07 16:10:58 <jeremiah> andre__: Thanks! :-)
Feb 07 16:11:05 <andre__> np
Feb 07 19:26:00 <CosmoHill> Random fact: cat's have a terminal velocity of 60mph
Feb 07 19:56:11 <Stskeeps> wb wazd
Feb 07 21:47:53 <arfoll> vgrade, any chance for an updated image for the joggler?
Feb 07 21:53:32 <Alison_Chaiken> Anyone running rygel on meego-1.1 and have advice?    I'm about to download it from testing and give it a shot.  A coworker is integrating rygel and BRisa.
Feb 07 21:58:04 <Alison_Chaiken> Hmm, I see Rygel is hosted at gnome.org and relies on gupnp, so maybe getting it to work with MeeGo (as opposed to Maemo) won't be easy?
Feb 07 22:00:06 <Stskeeps> think we use gupnp in meego too
Feb 07 22:01:50 <mihero> and the renderer is done with gstreamer so that shouldn't be a problem ether
Feb 07 22:02:07 <vgrade> arfoll, doing it now
Feb 07 22:02:29 <arfoll> vgrade, awesome thx, i have a build of XBMC with GLES that I would like to test :-)
Feb 07 22:02:44 <vgrade> did you see the enna video
Feb 07 22:03:10 <TSCHAKeee>  vgrade, i did..very nice
Feb 07 22:03:13 <arfoll> yeah i did, looked nice, but enna is too unfinshed to be usefull
Feb 07 22:03:24 <TSCHAKeee> vgrade: is the jan build of emgd working with VA API?
Feb 07 22:04:03 <vgrade> no idea how would I tell?
Feb 07 22:04:30 <TSCHAKeee> run mplayer, or gstreamer with vaapi support to see if video accelleration is working
Feb 07 22:04:47 <arfoll> TSCHAKeee, don't worry i'll tell you if it runs as soon as the new build is up ;-)
Feb 07 22:04:50 <TSCHAKeee> there is also vainfo etc that comes with the vaapi tools that tries to get extension data
Feb 07 22:05:02 <arfoll> yeah but vainfo will usually say everything is good
Feb 07 22:05:13 <arfoll> unfortunately last EMGD would SEGFAULT if you did anything with vaapi
Feb 07 22:05:17 <TSCHAKeee> the lack of working VAAPI is what stopped my research work on making the archos9 a LinuxMCE media player
Feb 07 22:05:29 <TSCHAKeee> arfoll: yup, some idiot built it against libxcb-1.0
Feb 07 22:05:43 <TSCHAKeee> which...nobody has shipped for...um...5 years? ;)
Feb 07 22:06:00 <arfoll> well the EMGD team seems a little... backwards?
Feb 07 22:06:20 <TSCHAKeee> they're on their own planet
Feb 07 22:06:27 <TSCHAKeee> i mean, a windows installer
Feb 07 22:06:30 <TSCHAKeee> for a java tool
Feb 07 22:06:35 <TSCHAKeee> that generates a tarball
Feb 07 22:06:38 <TSCHAKeee> that's just speshul
Feb 07 22:06:56 <arfoll> well at least they seem to provide an RPM for meego now
Feb 07 22:07:03 <TSCHAKeee> *SHOCK*
Feb 07 22:07:20 <TSCHAKeee> maybe they actually listened to me
Feb 07 22:09:01 <Alison_Chaiken> I see Joel Clark just requested DLNA support in bugzilla (8516 and 8534), so I guess it's not there yet.
Feb 07 22:09:28 <TSCHAKeee> dlna.. another wonderful clusterfuck of a standard
Feb 07 22:10:31 <TSCHAKeee> (am I bitter..yeah... i feel sorry for the stuff subjected upon people by the consumer electronics companies...while those of us with an imagination to hook this stuff up together are actively blocked at every turn until the consumer electronics companies come up with their own lesser standard)
Feb 07 22:11:24 <Alison_Chaiken> TSCHAKeee, I am aware that DLNA is an MS standard and it's not my choice, but I need to get existing devices talking to each other . . .
Feb 07 22:12:48 <TSCHAKeee> Alison_Chaiken: i know.. i'm just saying, i feel your pain... we're starting to fold UPNP/DLNA into LinuxMCE (which already has a massive messaging system that engulfs UPNP/DLNA in functionality)...
Feb 07 22:13:34 <TSCHAKeee> and we've had to design a whole transcoding architecture to deal with all the disparate media playback units..not even counting the funky things that control points are doing.
Feb 07 22:13:37 <Alison_Chaiken> TSCHAKeee, would I be better off trying to get LinuxMCE working on MeeGo then?   Maybe I should just try to install BRisa first.
Feb 07 22:14:31 <TSCHAKeee> Alison_Chaiken: not yet.. our UPNP/DLNA support is still being developed... however, if you want to look, LinuxMCE is a complete smart home platform that has no peer anywhere else in the industry. ;)
Feb 07 22:15:13 <arfoll> Alison_Chaiken: my builds of xbmc for meego have upnp support and my enna build has upnp enabled too
Feb 07 22:15:44 <Alison_Chaiken> arfoll, your builds are in trunk or testing?
Feb 07 22:15:55 <arfoll> home:arfoll in public OBS
Feb 07 22:16:05 <Alison_Chaiken> Thanks, I'll have a look.
Feb 07 22:16:11 <arfoll> see home:arfoll:enna and home:arfoll:xbmc
Feb 07 22:16:31 <arfoll> xbmc works nicer than enna tbh, but enna is a dev build
Feb 07 22:38:04 <sivang> does anybody know how to search for bugs one has commented in?
Feb 07 22:38:42 <sivang> in our BTS
Feb 07 22:59:24 <Umeaboy> sivang: https://bugs.meego.com/query.cgi
Feb 07 22:59:36 <Umeaboy> Field called A comment:
Feb 07 22:59:43 <Umeaboy> See it?
Feb 07 23:00:35 <Umeaboy> Also: Email Addresses, Bug Numbers, and Votes-field.
Feb 07 23:01:06 <Umeaboy> Check the boxes for the reporter & a CC list member.
Feb 07 23:01:27 <Umeaboy> Type your emailadress in the field underneath.
Feb 07 23:17:11 <sivang> Umeaboy: great, thanks
Feb 07 23:42:01 * CosmoHill glares at his 64bit intel download app
Feb 07 23:52:51 <CosmoHill> (apple mac program)
Feb 08 00:08:51 <fellu>  /qj
Feb 08 00:54:51 <CosmoHill> night night
Feb 08 01:21:11 <Reffy> Hey guys, I'm currently attempting to get Wetab functioning on an O2 Joggler. Can anybody assist with this error:
Feb 08 01:21:17 <Reffy> Debug: Starting pinnwand... LogLevel: "CRITICAL"  Fatal: Cant read serial number, terminating Pinnwand
Feb 08 01:21:23 <Reffy> Repeatedly
Feb 08 01:24:09 <berndhs> the wetab people have a channel #wetab on irc.devnode.net
Feb 08 01:24:24 <berndhs> perhaps they know something over there
Feb 08 01:25:40 <Reffy> Ahhh
Feb 08 01:25:46 <Reffy> Thanks, I'll check it out
Feb 08 01:37:38 <Reffy> Hmmmm
Feb 08 01:37:42 <Reffy> No reply over there
Feb 08 01:37:52 <Reffy> Probably due to the lack of people in there
Feb 08 01:38:40 <berndhs> i think they are in germany, middle of the night there
Feb 08 02:37:52 <Reffy> Hmmmm
Feb 08 02:37:59 <Reffy> Think I may have somewhat found the issue
Feb 08 02:38:25 <Reffy> script named tiitoo-pinnwand-serial.sh puts out this error
Feb 08 02:39:19 <Reffy> The
Feb 08 02:39:26 <Reffy> Won't let me post it
Feb 08 02:39:27 <Reffy> lol
Feb 08 02:40:15 <Reffy> http://pastebin.com/9hhECXhA
Feb 08 02:41:25 <Reffy> No idea what to do with that though
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