**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Feb 17 02:59:58 2011 Feb 17 03:43:58 * npm ssh's into s10-3t to see what the hangup is on boot Feb 17 05:46:11 hey Feb 17 06:51:34 hi, what is new on MWC? Feb 17 06:51:37 and meego? Feb 17 06:52:51 carrypad.com has fairly decent coverage **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Feb 17 07:32:20 2011 Feb 17 07:39:02 morning Feb 17 07:42:32 anybody knows how to make pinetrail resize to the ideapad's resolution? Feb 17 07:45:06 also, it would be nice to have evince Feb 17 07:45:12 or other pdf reader on pinetrail Feb 17 07:45:21 what image.. Feb 17 07:45:21 * sivang thinks of creating his own ebook reader UX Feb 17 07:46:23 Stskeeps: the pinetrail downloaded from intel Feb 17 07:46:46 meego-tablet-ia32-pinetrail.iso Feb 17 07:46:52 no idea then Feb 17 07:47:23 the only good thing about it is swype so far, otherwise given the ideapad resolution and screen realestate impossible to leave apps without killing them from the VT Feb 17 07:49:20 I have been trying to download the pinetrail tablet image for couple of times, no succes so far. Connection has always broken after ~50M Feb 17 07:49:26 would really like to test it on the ideapad. Feb 17 07:50:04 wget -c â™¥ Feb 17 07:51:11 myrtti, yeah, have to do it like that the next time Feb 17 07:51:15 Myrtti: ha! Feb 17 07:51:50 Ronksu: it's not so fitted for the ideapad though. Not even as a mere ebook reader in my taste. Feb 17 07:52:40 sivang: too bad. Will try out of curiosity though, don't have much use for the ideapad otherwise. Feb 17 07:54:02 Ronksu: don't get me wrong. it is quite nice, the UX elements there are tablet suited and pretty Feb 17 07:54:10 Ronksu: but it still more love to go the wya Feb 17 07:54:39 sivang: yep, not expecting anything finished Feb 17 08:06:52 hi Feb 17 08:36:49 * timeless pokes lbt/x-fade Feb 17 08:45:03 timeless: pong Feb 17 08:45:15 any progress? Feb 17 08:45:36 we're meeting next week in oregon and will discuss it then Feb 17 08:45:46 do we have a BMC# for timeless's request? Feb 17 08:45:47 who uses this system ? Feb 17 08:45:55 timeless: BMC? Feb 17 08:46:04 bugs.meego.com Feb 17 08:46:14 yes I know. Thanks Feb 17 08:46:17 this is nuts Feb 17 08:46:30 what's there to discuss? the vm was created Feb 17 08:46:43 someone was supposed to set up an ldap account, surely that takes 10mins Feb 17 08:46:48 has it been done? Feb 17 08:46:51 I said "no" Feb 17 08:47:02 FYI Feb 17 08:47:15 ? context? Feb 17 08:47:18 we have not properly assessed how much resource this will use Feb 17 08:47:22 there are no backup plans Feb 17 08:47:38 * timeless bangs head against wall Feb 17 08:47:39 there is no indication of where this should fit in our priority Feb 17 08:47:58 the backup is that when the service goes down some people whine Feb 17 08:48:06 that's no different from any other service Feb 17 08:48:08 I know you are the single most important person in your world. But I'm trying not to just react to the people who shout loudest Feb 17 08:48:25 we have a *LOT* to do and frankly mxr is low down on the list Feb 17 08:48:28 setting it up again... well, give me the box and use a stop watch and i'll let you know Feb 17 08:48:31 it is not a *no* Feb 17 08:48:59 would that be useful? Feb 17 08:49:00 * timeless should run a log analyzer on mxr.maemo.org Feb 17 08:49:01 it is a "we are going to look at your request as part of our planning next week" Feb 17 08:49:17 it would be useful to have an idea of how many users you expect Feb 17 08:49:30 eg is mxr more important than wiki? Feb 17 08:49:36 how about auth system Feb 17 08:49:45 how about the sdk site? Feb 17 08:49:47 no auth required until private repos are indexed Feb 17 08:49:58 which should we downgrade to do your work? Feb 17 08:50:18 all things considered, having a cross reference is cheaper and more useful than an sdk site Feb 17 08:50:21 no those are amongst the projects we're looking at Feb 17 08:50:23 which is unlikely to be well maintained Feb 17 08:50:53 since a cross reference automatically provides access to whatever code and hence code docs or code indicating actual quirks are present Feb 17 08:50:54 timeless: the current mechanism for getting a service up on meego.com isn't great Feb 17 08:51:02 really? i hadn't noticed Feb 17 08:51:08 somehow the qa team managed Feb 17 08:51:15 and yet, tbh, their thing is crap Feb 17 08:51:22 and utterly worthless Feb 17 08:51:33 although perhaps someone gave them their thing to stop them from spamming wiki Feb 17 08:51:41 so that people could spend less time cleaning up wiki Feb 17 08:52:05 timeless: do you have the server logs from the mxr you setup Feb 17 08:52:07 the number of users actually using the qa graph server has to be far fewer than the number who will use mxr Feb 17 08:52:17 so you can say "this is how many hits we had" Feb 17 08:52:21 lbt: i have logs for mxr.maemo.org and the internal one Feb 17 08:52:26 no Feb 17 08:52:29 meego one Feb 17 08:52:36 the one for meego.com, we have to ask jebba Feb 17 08:52:40 it was up for 2 months iirc Feb 17 08:52:48 OK - that will help Feb 17 08:52:57 lbt: ask jebba in the bug Feb 17 08:53:07 since that's where you want the info and that's where he's reading Feb 17 08:53:13 no. jebba is not someone I'm involving in this Feb 17 08:53:13 explain how you want the data Feb 17 08:53:25 all I'm asking is to fairly assess mxr wrt other services Feb 17 08:53:25 ok Feb 17 08:54:20 really that's not my job. It's CO with Dawn or Quim ... but we are not yet setup so we do as best we can Feb 17 08:54:43 so. help me to set the priority and we will get onto it Feb 17 08:55:08 meanwhile asking "are we there yet" like a child on a long car journey is not endearing you to me..... Feb 17 08:55:44 sorry, but you're being a stick in the mud Feb 17 08:55:50 and are not endearing yourself to the channel Feb 17 08:55:56 *g* Feb 17 08:56:08 i'd like to be able to set up mxr even if no one can access it Feb 17 08:56:19 sure Feb 17 08:56:25 that requires some time but shouldn't require worries about backup resources Feb 17 08:56:30 or just about anything else Feb 17 08:56:35 just someone to give me the keys Feb 17 08:56:54 and that kind of attitude is why we don't give out keys. Feb 17 08:57:06 i don't want root Feb 17 08:57:13 and i will not try to acquire root Feb 17 08:57:15 if/when you leave (as you regularly say you will) then who looks after this service? Feb 17 08:57:24 cf jebba Feb 17 08:57:27 me? Feb 17 08:57:32 Niels? Feb 17 08:57:52 so yes, I am looking to the long term installation Feb 17 08:58:01 and yes I care about backup/recovery Feb 17 08:58:08 Will anyone care at that point? Feb 17 08:58:36 when timeless leaves? No.... it'll all be over : Feb 17 08:58:45 lbt: i have a couple of people who i'm grooming to be able to pick up mxr setup Feb 17 08:59:02 but, there's little point in asking them to do work now Feb 17 08:59:50 OK that's 15 mins on this .... I've explained and said it's on the teams discussion list for planning .... now-> work Feb 17 09:00:06 get me those hit stats please Feb 17 09:00:28 nb... that's something that's needed for DawnFoster's stats project Feb 17 09:00:39 so we know where to allocate resource Feb 17 09:00:54 so I assume you correctly set that up on the mxr.meego.com instance you had Feb 17 09:01:36 it's apache, from memory access_log was generated Feb 17 09:02:05 good. That should help Feb 17 09:03:01 do you guys publish stats for the other services? Feb 17 09:03:09 * timeless would love to see stats for qa-graphs Feb 17 09:03:35 ask DawnFoster Feb 17 09:04:01 morning all Feb 17 09:57:46 lo Feb 17 09:57:59 lo Feb 17 10:03:13 1;2c/LEAVE Feb 17 11:17:34 morn wazd Feb 17 11:17:51 Stskeeps: heya :) Feb 17 11:18:00 Stskeeps: back home finally :) Feb 17 11:18:13 condolences Feb 17 11:18:52 thresh: ty :P Feb 17 11:19:53 wazd: enjoy -25œC :P Feb 17 11:20:47 thresh: yeah, after +6 in Prague it's insane :) Feb 17 11:21:48 Stskeeps: really bad that I was too far away to meet you Feb 17 11:21:53 wazd: another time :) Feb 17 11:22:06 Stskeeps: sure :) You can come here maybe :D Feb 17 11:24:58 nice joke Feb 17 11:31:07 is there an equivalent to the android telephony api? stuff to add hooks when a call is received and so on? Feb 17 11:31:48 magnetic: ofono dbus api maybe Feb 17 11:32:05 or on higher level, Telepathy? Feb 17 11:33:34 cool, thx Feb 17 11:35:32 the amount of documentation on ofono.org is overwhelming: a block diagram :P Feb 17 11:36:05 yes, that is my thought too Feb 17 11:36:08 doc/ in source is ok Feb 17 11:38:19 hii friends Feb 17 11:39:13 ofono is only for actual phone call stuff though, right? This would mean you didn't get informed about for example SIP calls or Skype... Telepathy would let you do that :) Feb 17 11:39:34 ...if those hooks exist, of course, which... well, not knowing, i would be surprised if they didn't :) Feb 17 11:42:14 magnetic: ^ Feb 17 11:51:33 http://appdeveloper.intel.com/en-us/contest/developerchallenge Feb 17 11:51:37 nice prizes :) Feb 17 11:53:27 "Best custom app for France" - say what now!?? Feb 17 11:53:49 and why is the graphic a white flag? ;) Feb 17 11:53:57 france Feb 17 11:54:56 leinir: i'm only interested on phone calls at the moment. Looking at the doc it seems that the PropertyChanged signal is what i need Feb 17 12:01:30 3D phone, dual-core omap4, IPS stereoscopic display, 2-4x performance of N900, http://www.anandtech.com/show/4179/ti-omap4-and-lg-optimus-3d-tested Feb 17 12:01:38 good afternoon gentlemen Feb 17 12:15:20 notmart: Sooo... do you think it'd be possible to get something ready before the SF meego conf? ;) Feb 17 12:16:35 leinir: aaand, when it is? ;) Feb 17 12:17:02 End of May :) Feb 17 12:17:31 http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Conference_Spring_2011 Feb 17 12:17:57 so, depends on the entity of the "something" but end of may, yeah, i see it nicely feasible :D Feb 17 12:19:10 i would love to see a community booth type thing from kde with a couple of devices with the plasma netbook, plasma tablet and plasma mobile UXes, that'd be pretty sweet ;) Feb 17 12:20:35 leinir: i'm fixing some rough edges right now so that plasma mobile cn really be used as a shell Feb 17 12:20:52 then i think we are also quite near to a booting image from the packaging side ;) Feb 17 12:21:31 Sweet ;) Feb 17 12:22:26 motorola droid2 with omap3640 @ 1ghz could make a fine meego-phone (if opensource drivers are avail) http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola-Droid-2-Teardown/3502/1 Feb 17 12:22:38 hi leinir Feb 17 12:23:11 Heya The3211 :) Feb 17 12:23:48 pupnik: ...and if it didn't insisted to reflash any custom image put on it :p Feb 17 12:25:02 it does that? Feb 17 12:26:00 droid2 i think so, at least, most recent motorola android phones have this nasty habit Feb 17 12:26:43 that has of course already jailbroken, but shows the attitude of motorola about controlling their devices... Feb 17 12:28:46 notmart: are there any other attractive looking candidates for meego on the horizon? Feb 17 12:29:30 pupnik: that depends on how far away your horizon lies... jupiter or mars curvature? ;) Feb 17 12:30:31 hm Feb 17 12:30:47 mmaybe i should just play with the archos 7.0 and a huawei umts stick Feb 17 12:32:01 is there anyone for chat???? Feb 17 12:32:13 we're not here for chatting Feb 17 12:32:19 we're here for work Feb 17 12:32:54 is there anyone for chat??? Feb 17 12:33:00 no Feb 17 12:33:46 can you tell me what kind of work may be i can help you... @ thiago Feb 17 12:36:48 The3211: i could use a very low-power mp3 player that discards low-frequency bands and bypasses pulseaudio Feb 17 12:37:50 what the hell is that ?? @ pupnik Feb 17 12:38:04 perhaps deadbeef is a candidate, or something else arm-optimized Feb 17 12:38:19 huh? Feb 17 12:38:58 http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/ Feb 17 12:46:46 any good handwriting recognizer software, preferably one that can handle hanzi/kanji? Feb 17 12:46:56 (google gave me cellwriter) Feb 17 12:51:35 sig^: how about finding me some FOSS kanji OCR Feb 17 12:54:19 that's actually what I'm kind of wondering... there are so many small-ish websites that offer javascript handwriting recognition Feb 17 12:54:36 it must be a cheap tech, but can it be just all proprietary? Feb 17 12:55:07 Also, it's not just bitmap OCR, it's more like "stroke recognition", comparing a set of strokes against a database Feb 17 12:55:23 of course, you have to be able to say which strokes are which... Feb 17 12:55:24 yes there's a big difference Feb 17 12:55:42 but it can also be just OCR, aiding in recognition Feb 17 12:56:09 hmm, it could be interesting to write one, again, if I had a time bubble where I could sit for a hundred years without time passing Feb 17 13:00:07 sig^: if you find such a kind of time bubble please let us know :p Feb 17 13:04:30 hmm, i think i'd rather avoid that one Feb 17 13:04:47 i mean, how can you be in a time bubble for 100 years if no time passes? :) Feb 17 13:08:47 ahiemstra: http://code.google.com/p/ocropus/ Feb 17 13:08:59 sorry Feb 17 13:09:03 sig^: http://code.google.com/p/ocropus/ Feb 17 13:46:05 Stskeeps: does sudo work for you on ircbot VM ? Feb 17 13:46:34 lbt: you didn't actually give me anywhere to ssh to from the jumpbox Feb 17 13:46:35 :) Feb 17 13:46:40 (i think) Feb 17 13:47:00 ah - I thought max did ... left/right hand Feb 17 13:52:47 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=613083 Feb 17 14:07:18 jarkko: amusing (hey, why not rm -fr / since it might have some junk under it :) Feb 17 16:21:53 notmart: sweet bit of news there :) Feb 17 16:25:21 leinir: indeed ;) Feb 17 17:35:01 from a burning platform, to a sinking platform <-- hehe Feb 17 17:48:04 does anybody know where can I find information about how to make qml apps look integrated in meego tablet UX? Feb 17 17:52:46 apol, even though the entire UX hasn't been open yet, you can surely look at the QML files that are installed per-app and "do what they do" Feb 17 17:53:01 hmm Feb 17 17:53:12 i guess there's no doc yet, then, no? Feb 17 17:53:31 tripzero: do you know where can i find them other than an installed system? (a repository for instance) Feb 17 17:56:55 apol, negative Feb 17 17:57:06 well Feb 17 17:57:07 thanks Feb 17 17:57:08 apol: Intel hasn't released it publicly. You'll have to grab their pre-alpha image and play around with it. Feb 17 17:58:19 ;/ ok Feb 17 17:58:20 thx! Feb 17 18:17:06 Stskeeps: ping Feb 17 19:17:48 RST38h: why sinking? Feb 17 19:21:44 DawnFoster: pong Feb 17 19:22:35 hey stskeeps - I'm starting to pull download data from server logs & want to make sure I have the n900 downloads captured correctly. Feb 17 19:22:59 right? Feb 17 19:23:05 Stskeeps: main download file would match: aw\.bz2 Feb 17 19:23:13 oops make that raw\.bz2 Feb 17 19:23:21 yep - kernel is just a sidenote Feb 17 19:23:51 with released images always in a /releases/ directory and developer builds somewhere in /builds/ directories Feb 17 19:24:28 (using awk to parse some huge files & want to make sure I'm matching the right things) Feb 17 19:24:35 +1 on using awk ;) Feb 17 19:24:43 Stskeeps: I <3 awk Feb 17 19:25:05 and yes, /releases/ and buils/ Feb 17 19:25:14 Stskeeps: I'll send you a file this afternoon (to you and other release managers) to do a reality check on the numbers Feb 17 19:25:17 k Feb 17 19:25:21 thanks! Feb 17 19:25:36 * Stskeeps goes look at flight prices Feb 17 19:27:03 hey DawnFoster Feb 17 19:27:19 hey lbt Feb 17 19:27:32 how's things? Feb 17 19:30:28 flights? servers? Feb 17 19:30:39 * sivang wonders what's going on. Feb 17 19:31:23 sivang: did i forget to tell you of my second career as a secret agent? Feb 17 19:31:24 :P Feb 17 19:31:39 Stskeeps: hmm Feb 17 19:31:42 things are good - just working on metrics Feb 17 19:31:43 double-agent ;) Feb 17 19:31:55 if there is a flight I want to be on it :) Feb 17 19:31:57 * sivang likes flying Feb 17 19:31:58 adding some new data Feb 17 19:32:04 DawnFoster: am I there ? :p Feb 17 19:33:23 sivang: probably in irc stats on speaking a lot ;p Feb 17 19:34:06 Stskeeps, where are the irc stats? Feb 17 19:34:16 lcuk: stskeeps.subnetmask.net/irc/data/irssistats.jan.html Feb 17 19:34:34 Stskeeps: well, there are ml's blog posts :) Feb 17 19:35:15 Stskeeps: yes, this country makes you a good speaker :-p Feb 17 19:35:21 err, there's a word for that Feb 17 19:35:23 'digger' Feb 17 19:35:31 in hebrew is sounds better and funnier Feb 17 19:36:23 sivang: shows up in mailing list posts & IRC top 20 people :) Feb 17 19:36:38 the rest of you have to wait until I publish them. Muwahaha Feb 17 19:36:45 DawnFoster: heh Feb 17 19:38:59 DawnFoster always loved sivang best!! Feb 17 19:39:42 gabrbedd: I wish ;) Feb 17 19:39:43 ha! he was the first to ask :) Feb 17 19:42:53 DawnFoster: can I borrow $20? Feb 17 19:43:14 gabrbedd: ha, nice try :) Feb 17 19:43:21 :-) Feb 17 19:48:33 DawnFoster, so what's the most downloaded image these days? Feb 17 19:50:58 I just got an e-mail from Intel AppUp. Hard to read in pine with all the [1x1_clear.gif] and [isn_news_back_feature_bot3.gif] stuff.... but I think they're now accepting MeeGo apps in the store. Feb 17 19:51:28 I still don't see an AppUp app for MeeGo on the front page, yet... but that's good news. Feb 17 19:51:56 Ulf_: i'm having bets on the N900 one, but netbook pinetrail might be high on the list too Feb 17 19:52:10 Stskeeps, I'm guessing Pinetrail Feb 17 19:52:20 Ulf_: only analyzed released images: netbook image by far is the leader Feb 17 19:52:27 followed by N900 Feb 17 19:52:33 then IVI Feb 17 19:52:44 wow Feb 17 19:52:45 Oct - Jan data Feb 17 19:53:05 downloads from builds directories will be very different Feb 17 19:53:13 DawnFoster: splits on versions could be interesting Feb 17 19:53:32 n900 leads on builds downloads Feb 17 19:53:47 I'll send you both a spreadsheet this afternoon to do a reality check on Feb 17 19:53:56 ok, I have to drop off for a while Feb 17 19:54:05 cya Feb 17 19:54:14 Excluding source IPs in the Intel network range for wget as the user agent would be good Feb 17 19:54:15 X-Fade: do you have stats on tablets-dev / meego-codedrop.php ? Feb 17 19:56:41 Stskeeps: No. I might be able to get that, but that will take some time. Feb 17 19:59:28 X-Fade: ok, not a high priority Feb 17 20:13:10 can someone suggest me a gui irc client with minimal features to use instead of webirc? Feb 17 20:13:21 xchat Feb 17 20:13:33 irssi Feb 17 20:13:40 pidgin Feb 17 20:13:43 empathy Feb 17 20:13:50 bitchx Feb 17 20:13:54 telnet Feb 17 20:13:54 irssi, for sure Feb 17 20:13:57 people still use bitchx? Feb 17 20:13:57 :P Feb 17 20:14:03 telnet lol Feb 17 20:14:03 ircII ! Feb 17 20:14:05 irssi Feb 17 20:14:09 wait wait Feb 17 20:14:25 irssi has no gui Feb 17 20:14:31 sure it does Feb 17 20:14:37 sure it does Feb 17 20:15:11 maybe not a point and click gui, but gui nontheless Feb 17 20:15:21 ok ok Feb 17 20:15:26 so Feb 17 20:15:35 let's start from the beginning Feb 17 20:15:38 its irc we are talking about. you use the keyboard Feb 17 20:15:44 not the mouse ;) Feb 17 20:15:50 tripzero, tui ;-) Feb 17 20:16:00 tripzero: i know and I use irrsi also Feb 17 20:16:02 hello Feb 17 20:16:07 tripzero, who says it has to be like that forever Feb 17 20:16:33 hirabayashitaro: xchat +1 Feb 17 20:16:40 but I'm searching for something more click & you're done Feb 17 20:16:44 * tripzero moves mouse in rolling-the-eyes motion Feb 17 20:16:50 hy CosmoHill from the hill Feb 17 20:16:55 hirabayashitaro, I like XChat. I used Konversations yesterday and I liked it too. Feb 17 20:16:57 tripzero: what's the mouse? Feb 17 20:17:16 I don't need any feature, so the most light the best is for me Feb 17 20:17:27 CosmoHill, not sure. i hear it's this tool that xerox came up with a while back Feb 17 20:17:34 still in wide usage apparently Feb 17 20:17:37 lol, no grammar in previous sentence Feb 17 20:17:38 I use egalite, made it myself :) Feb 17 20:17:56 xerox didn't come up with it..they borrowed it. ;) Feb 17 20:17:57 I don't realise how computer proficent I am until I do something and the person next to me blinks cos I did it so far Feb 17 20:18:15 tripzero: does it need feeding? Feb 17 20:18:33 yes. mine gobbles up batteries Feb 17 20:19:18 CosmoHill, http://mail.linux.ie/pipermail/ilug/2006-February/086028.html Feb 17 20:22:43 wtf Feb 17 20:23:02 translated badly from another language , but still funny Feb 17 20:37:31 Myrtti, cat overload? :P Feb 17 20:38:17 GAN900: trying to find something nice or funny or something to make my today a bit better day than it has been so far Feb 17 20:38:38 if a kitty makes me smile, then I'll take 100 pictures of a silly cat Feb 17 20:38:50 don't worry, there's only ten left tho Feb 17 20:39:26 (please let today be over and forgotten soon) Feb 17 20:40:11 Myrtti, I'm sorry. Feb 17 20:40:13 http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/downloads nice linux support Feb 17 20:40:41 Myrtti, I only mention it because I have to prevent myself from filling up my photostream with cat pictures. *g* Feb 17 20:40:48 hehe Feb 17 20:42:27 the cat hasn't ben with my mum for a week now and he did that for the first time now Feb 17 20:43:00 (mum has been in a hospital for a week and the cat has been at mums, now both of them are at my sisters) Feb 17 20:49:28 is it possible to disable myzone? Feb 17 20:52:17 pavlix: i don't think so Feb 17 20:52:55 ali1234: thanks Feb 17 20:58:57 pavlix: If you go into settings, you can disable a lot of the stuff that appears on your MyZone page. (I assume you're talking about the Netbook UX) Feb 17 21:01:00 gabrbedd: in the meantime, I retried my custom xsession Feb 17 21:01:06 gabrbedd: and it seems to work fine Feb 17 21:03:07 now I'm only missing my mouse cursor Feb 17 21:10:55 gabrbedd: then you'll just have a useless empty page... Feb 17 21:13:08 can some please note me to the pinetrail imeage? Feb 17 21:13:16 * sivang is dead tired and pained :) Feb 17 21:13:26 the tablet one? Feb 17 21:13:28 yep Feb 17 21:13:31 the swype one Feb 17 21:13:32 :) Feb 17 21:13:41 http://appdeveloper.intel.com/en-us/meego-iso-esla Feb 17 21:13:45 ali1234: All I want on that page are app icons. For my workflows... all the MyZone stuff is already useless. Feb 17 21:13:48 * sivang kisses ali1234 Feb 17 21:13:51 (dunno if that has swype) Feb 17 21:14:01 it has teh elsa Feb 17 21:14:02 elsa Feb 17 21:14:04 esla Feb 17 21:14:05 bah Feb 17 21:14:08 so it has to be it Feb 17 21:22:27 ali1234, it has swype keyboard - see next page Feb 17 21:22:47 mikhas: you expect me to read all that click-though rubbish? Feb 17 21:22:50 gabrbedd: pintrail? Feb 17 21:23:03 that's why I am telling you Feb 17 21:23:07 heh :) Feb 17 21:23:11 it's even the default keyboard Feb 17 21:23:14 this image works on ideapad right? Feb 17 21:23:18 yup Feb 17 21:23:19 right Feb 17 21:23:29 it is a bit rough around the edges but fairly nice Feb 17 21:23:31 ok, will install it in a moment Feb 17 21:23:36 saw it on jukey's ideapad yesterday Feb 17 21:23:41 can't be worse than handset... can it? Feb 17 21:23:52 ali1234: yes Feb 17 21:23:55 feels better, but yeah, rough Feb 17 21:24:07 sivang: huh? Feb 17 21:24:08 mikhas: very nice *POC* Feb 17 21:24:08 pixelated thumbnails Feb 17 21:24:18 mikhas: I did not see them pixlated Feb 17 21:24:20 hmm Feb 17 21:24:30 but it would be nice if we could do soemthign about the resoltion Feb 17 21:24:32 sivang, time to get glasses? Feb 17 21:24:39 mikhas: they are already there Feb 17 21:24:46 mikhas: I will recheck Feb 17 21:24:47 obviously you got cheated then Feb 17 21:24:50 :-) Feb 17 21:24:52 heh Feb 17 21:25:13 might be the resolution in general, didnt have much time to play with it Feb 17 21:25:47 it's definitely just a showcase for now Feb 17 21:25:59 it's a standard mic image? just dd to usb? Feb 17 21:26:01 the application manager just lists fake apps Feb 17 21:26:21 ali1234: Tablet UX? Yes. Feb 17 21:27:15 anyways, it shows that the ideapad has a nice multitouch-capable display Feb 17 21:27:22 pinch zoom for example Feb 17 21:29:48 Stskeeps: does one have to get the -madde raw image if he wants to deploye qt creator apps/qml into it? Feb 17 21:30:05 mikhas, Feb 17 21:30:09 -mikhas, Feb 17 21:30:13 sorry, lol Feb 17 21:30:25 +mikhas Feb 17 21:31:03 * sivang lieks the channel quite on this time of the day. Feb 17 21:31:14 am I zero again? Feb 17 21:31:35 Stskeeps: ddi you see the video tutorials that I wanted to have like windows phone has? Feb 17 21:32:28 sivang: like screencasts? Feb 17 21:32:42