**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 25 02:59:57 2011 Feb 25 03:25:31 lcuk: so, http://mxr.meego.com/meego.gitorious.org/source/gles-libs/debian/libdgles2-dev.install now has links for 'Gitorious' and 'History' Feb 25 03:25:37 they're in the box at the top right Feb 25 03:26:04 the thing at the bottom is really a local version chooser, so, it's back to showing its native version bits Feb 25 03:49:24 is phonon being deprecated in favor of qtmuldimediakit? Feb 25 03:50:06 sivang: yes. Feb 25 03:51:06 gabrbedd: great, what are the reasons ? (e.g. back transparency?) Feb 25 03:51:12 (backend, that is) Feb 25 03:51:33 sivang: I remember seeing a blog about it somewhere... just a sec... Feb 25 03:52:29 sivang: http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2009/09/09/multimedia-in-qt-whats-the-story/ Feb 25 03:52:47 DawnFoster: do you ever sleep? Feb 25 03:53:20 gabrbedd: thanks, be right back workrave wants the computer :) Feb 25 03:53:29 hey DawnFoster , here? Feb 25 03:54:11 * sivang just found a very nice resource from forum nokia that could help us close the developer's guide if we add some narrative docs on top of them. Feb 25 03:54:25 gabrbedd: well, it's only 8pm here :) Feb 25 03:54:33 hey sivang Feb 25 03:55:21 https://projects.forum.nokia.com/qtquickplayground Feb 25 03:55:25 Anyone please help me setup wireless on Meego Feb 25 03:55:31 * gabrbedd can't get the hang of PST. Feb 25 03:55:35 anyone come across with RT3090? Feb 25 03:55:41 gabrbedd: pst? Feb 25 03:55:51 feedback appreciated, btw Feb 25 03:56:05 sivang: Pacific Standard Time, it's the time zone for Portland. Feb 25 03:56:18 RT3090 .... setup on meego...how? Feb 25 03:56:18 gabrbedd: ah, me neither :) Feb 25 03:56:20 pls Feb 25 03:56:23 andylou: RT3090 is no fun. Feb 25 03:56:31 yah Feb 25 03:56:32 * sivang hopes for some nice news for meego con in SF. Feb 25 03:56:37 i know it's not fun Feb 25 03:56:39 but I am stuck Feb 25 03:56:44 anyway, workrave gets the keyboard now Feb 25 03:56:45 andylou: I had a couple machines with RT3090 and tried using the rt3090-dkms Feb 25 03:56:49 whole day doing it Feb 25 03:57:00 so is that working? Feb 25 03:57:04 rt3090-dkms Feb 25 03:57:07 andylou: but I don't think I ever got it working with MeeGo. Feb 25 03:57:14 ooh Feb 25 03:57:22 i love the interface Feb 25 03:57:25 andylou: Meanwhile, we chose to go with a tablet with an atheros Wifi card. Feb 25 03:57:29 but if I can't used wifi Feb 25 03:57:44 atheros Feb 25 03:57:56 andylou: Anyway... that's as far as I got with rt3090. Feb 25 03:57:58 atheros wifi card... if I have that I don't have to install anything Feb 25 03:58:12 it will detected on Meego for Atheros wifi Feb 25 03:58:29 andylou: correct, I think most any atheros will work out of the box, no assembly required. Feb 25 03:58:48 do you have any that run on USB Feb 25 03:58:50 ? Feb 25 03:59:02 i mean can you suggess any Feb 25 03:59:17 andylou: forget about it. you've got a rt3090... I was just explaining why I moved on. Feb 25 03:59:34 andylou: Have you done much with Linux before? Feb 25 03:59:42 no Feb 25 03:59:45 not linux Feb 25 03:59:55 andylou: Done much compiling before? Feb 25 04:00:00 no Feb 25 04:00:06 i am new in linux Feb 25 04:00:24 i will chat later Feb 25 04:00:26 brb Feb 25 04:00:28 andylou: OK, then I'm afraid I don't have much good new for MeeGo + rt3090. Feb 25 04:00:34 :-( Feb 25 04:01:26 andylou: However, I've made it work on Ubuntu and you can probably get it working on Fedora. Feb 25 04:01:46 the real question is what are all of you guys doing up - it's late over there :) Feb 25 04:03:31 Heh... long story for me. :-) But I'm usually working at this time of night. Feb 25 04:11:53 * wmarone kicks obs Feb 25 04:13:25 -*- obs starts playing "Sea of Love" Feb 25 04:13:40 hmm Feb 25 04:13:44 nice dependency knot here Feb 25 04:14:09 knot? Feb 25 04:14:25 not a knot I suppose Feb 25 04:14:40 but opensuse 11.3 is unable to fill the requirement of libMagickCore2 that obs requires Feb 25 04:15:24 ewww... Feb 25 04:15:38 yeah Feb 25 04:16:19 i hit one of those with fedora's `hal` package recently. Feb 25 04:17:32 the silly part is that I installed opensuse to avoid the problems of such a distro-specific applicatoin Feb 25 04:17:36 application* Feb 25 04:17:37 heh Feb 25 04:19:17 Jeesh. Yeah, I can't *wait* to try and install OBS on a debian box. Feb 25 04:22:30 morning Feb 25 04:23:32 timoph: evening Feb 25 04:23:49 6.23am here :) Feb 25 04:24:23 Same here... in about 8 hours. :-) Feb 25 04:24:43 not even that late Feb 25 04:27:12 hmmh. let's see if bugzilla has something interesting for me Feb 25 04:28:49 5:28AM here Feb 25 04:30:51 .ru? Feb 25 04:31:39 .pl Feb 25 04:31:45 ah Feb 25 04:31:49 timoph, morning :) Feb 25 04:31:58 iekku: morn o/ Feb 25 04:32:01 timoph, in 1h I will be at office too Feb 25 04:32:10 first cop of coffee :D Feb 25 04:33:09 I've had 1.5 cups of coffee in my life Feb 25 04:33:12 "cop of coffee"? i've heard about that usb disk with some strange stuff created by microsoft and handed out to cops, but... Feb 25 04:33:19 :D Feb 25 04:33:33 (and, coincidentially, it's named "coffee" Feb 25 04:34:34 timoph, nice Feb 25 04:34:38 ar, hah Feb 25 04:35:01 also... Feb 25 04:35:15 * ar mutters something about windows iscsi performance Feb 25 04:36:38 please, don't swear? Feb 25 04:36:50 i won't Feb 25 04:36:59 at least, i won't write it here Feb 25 04:37:04 :D Feb 25 04:39:51 but that said, if i one gets, on average, about 10MB/s more linear write speed than windows gets linear read speed (with same target settings), it means that something has to be wrong with windows. and i've already tuned the target settings for the windows initiator (i started with 45MB/s linear read speed, ended up with 60 to 65) Feb 25 04:58:33 can one install any software one wants? Feb 25 04:58:47 like can I compile from source a package? Feb 25 04:58:56 does that generally work? Feb 25 04:59:09 ranamalo: yes. Feb 25 05:00:07 is there a way to install meego as a vm so I can try it? Feb 25 05:00:23 like with virtualbox or xen or something? Feb 25 05:01:43 gabrbedd: it's rpm based right? Feb 25 05:03:44 ranamalo: yes, you can install meego in a vm. Search wiki.meego.com. There's several ways to do it. I've personally run the MeeGo SDK through qemu, and it works OK. Feb 25 05:04:07 ranamalo: And yes, MeeGo uses rpm for package management. Feb 25 05:05:01 gabrbedd: you always have root right? It's like like android where you need to jailbreak your stuff Feb 25 05:05:29 gabrbedd: like if I buy a nokia n900 Feb 25 05:06:15 ranamalo: depends on what a device vendor decides to do Feb 25 05:06:35 meego does not guarantee a vendor will play nice Feb 25 05:06:46 ranamalo: I haven't dev'd on android... so I'm not sure what you're asking. Feb 25 05:07:08 ranamalo: I dev MeeGo on netbooks, and it's almost just like any other linux distro in that regard. Feb 25 05:07:30 wmarone: if it's unlocked that means no dirty proprietary games. Is that correct? Feb 25 05:07:48 ranamalo: well, almost all the games you will find are proprietary Feb 25 05:07:49 gabrbedd: sounds good. that's what I'm looking for Feb 25 05:08:10 wmarone: no i mean like locking me out of my own hardware Feb 25 05:08:14 I know Feb 25 05:08:16 wmarone: that type of game Feb 25 05:08:24 games don't lock you out of your hardware Feb 25 05:08:31 handset vendors try to though Feb 25 05:08:54 and meego has a security framework that can be used to enforce such Feb 25 05:09:18 note /can/, not /will/ Feb 25 06:19:49 can MeeGo be installed while skipping the bootloader installation in the setup process? Feb 25 06:49:15 Lukian: what are you talking about? Feb 25 06:51:02 I'm concerned that the syslinux bootloader breaks GPT Feb 25 07:12:50 jayne: hi Feb 25 07:12:59 DCC SEND irc.tddirc.net#hackerthreads 0 0 0 Feb 25 07:13:02 DCC SEND irc.tddirc.net#hackerthreads 0 0 0 Feb 25 07:13:50 DCC SEND irc.tddirc.net#hackerthreads 0 0 0 Feb 25 07:13:52 wtf is that dcc stuff yer fiddling with sshorm Feb 25 07:14:02 bleeter: spam, ignore Feb 25 07:14:03 l33t hax Feb 25 07:14:12 okay, who has trojaned client? Feb 25 07:14:22 it's not a trojan Feb 25 07:14:24 Tm_T: yeah, just pissin' me off... grr Feb 25 07:14:27 it's a router bug Feb 25 07:14:41 people with old router firmwares will disconnect when they get that message Feb 25 07:14:44 DCC SEND irc.tddirc.net#hackerthreads 0 0 0 Feb 25 07:14:55 it's also annoying in all clients that aren't irssi Feb 25 07:15:01 because all clients that aren't irssi suck Feb 25 07:15:20 sshorm: so you're trying to piss people off on purpose? Feb 25 07:15:33 sshorm, that's not very nice Feb 25 07:15:38 yes Feb 25 07:15:46 just /ignore sshorm ALL Feb 25 07:15:52 DCC SEND irc.tddirc.net#hackerthreads 0 0 0 Feb 25 07:15:58 sshorm: maybe you're new to freenode, but that's k-lineable stuff Feb 25 07:16:06 just stop it Feb 25 07:16:38 DCC SEND irc.tddirc.net#hackerthreads 0 0 0 Feb 25 07:16:44 I'm hoping that too Feb 25 07:16:57 bleeter: i've been glined more times than you've been laid Feb 25 07:16:58 kids, stop commenting on spam, it aint helping Feb 25 07:17:13 Tm_T: lol Feb 25 07:17:33 sshorm why are you sending me stuff Feb 25 07:17:41 Tm_T, ok dad :) Feb 25 07:17:46 (;) Feb 25 07:18:14 * Tm_T is sorry for his bit grumpy action above Feb 25 07:18:19 this channel is no fun Feb 25 07:18:20 see ya Feb 25 07:18:31 sshorm goddamnit dont send me shit Feb 25 07:18:34 who was he Feb 25 07:18:35 or she Feb 25 07:18:54 sshorm wants to send you irc.tddirc.net#hackerthreads (Unknown.) Feb 25 07:18:59 it's not allowed to swear in here, so can't answer ;) Feb 25 07:19:02 welcome to the IRC: commenting on spam is just giving those kids the attention they are looking for Feb 25 07:19:27 aye alright Feb 25 07:20:03 Tm_T: indeed, just wanted to make sure they knew what they were doing before hopping in to #staff to see if my mate was around ;) Feb 25 09:10:08 let's hope the univesity of miami is serious about logging and abuse emails :p Feb 25 09:14:32 poutsi: miami? Feb 25 09:15:18 oh right Feb 25 09:35:27 Does mic-image-creator normally take an age at the "Running scripts" stage? Feb 25 09:35:43 I've never actually had to sit around and wait for it before, so am not sure if this is normal or not Feb 25 09:41:59 hmm, I'll see if it's an error in the ks file then Feb 25 09:42:02 bbl Feb 25 09:49:29 Completed stage 4 (16988s):Information on 12918231 identifiers dumped to disk. Feb 25 09:49:42 sp3000: yum Feb 25 09:50:27 ok, so, if people want to try to use mxr.meego.com/repo.meego.com, the ident database is now working Feb 25 09:51:00 which should make it vaguely useful Feb 25 09:51:11 timeless_w7ip, you're so positive Feb 25 09:51:13 this isn't the final repo.meego.com, and it isn't cronned Feb 25 09:51:38 arfoll: well, i'm not quite sure what people will do with it, and i'm not sure how mxr will deal w/ a database of 12 million identifiers... Feb 25 09:52:08 I get : ** Fatal: Search isn't available; please complain to the webmaster [cite: bad_glimpseindex] Feb 25 09:52:18 yeah, 'search' doesn't work, 'ident' does Feb 25 09:52:32 amusingly enough, the identifier index pass finished before the glimpse index pass Feb 25 09:52:42 i'm fairly certain that traditionally glimpse is the fast leg Feb 25 09:52:52 * timeless_w7ip wonders what's causing glimpse to be unhappy Feb 25 09:53:09 oh, why do i bother. Feb 25 09:53:19 name too long: /data/mxr-data/repo.meego.com/source-root/alsa-lib/include/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa/alsa Feb 25 09:53:27 * timeless_w7ip thanks alsa for being *stupid* Feb 25 09:53:51 timeless_w7ip, works well Feb 25 09:54:14 there are dozens of these evil things Feb 25 09:54:32 name too long: /data/mxr-data/repo.meego.com/source-root/meego-lsb/patches/meego-lsb/patches/meego-lsb/patches/meego-lsb/patches/meego-lsb/patches/post-build-checks/patches/meego-lsb/patches/post-build-checks/patches/python-twisted-core/doc/specifications Feb 25 09:55:52 actually, so far those are the only two that glimpse has hit Feb 25 10:00:48 come to think of it, iirc i ended up adding a patch to my other glimpses to deal with evil packages Feb 25 10:00:58 * timeless_w7ip would have to vpn in and ask Feb 25 10:02:58 timeless_w7ip: I see from your nic you took you CEO literally? :) Feb 25 10:04:24 tybollt: aww,g, thanks Feb 25 10:04:36 this was actually more of a gift from Intel/LF than Nokia Feb 25 10:04:51 i got it because LF paid for me to go to MeeGo Conf Dublin :) Feb 25 10:05:24 Nokia wouldn't pay even though i was a speaker .. Feb 25 10:13:41 DawnFoster1, still awake? what do you think about https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13696 - can we get the ML? Feb 25 10:13:43 Bug 13696 nor, Undecided, ---, dawn.m.foster, NEW, Request for dedicated meego-inputmethods ML Feb 25 10:25:56 when does MeeGo 1.2 come to N900 Feb 25 10:26:11 when 1.2 is released Feb 25 10:26:28 and what is that day? Feb 25 10:26:33 or month :D Feb 25 10:27:20 any one? Feb 25 10:27:30 mazzaa: stop asking Feb 25 10:27:49 i can ask if i dont know? Feb 25 10:28:11 no Feb 25 10:28:24 this channel is for general discussion... Feb 25 10:28:43 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=meego+release+schedule Feb 25 10:28:46 % Feb 25 10:28:49 so just tell me and i will stop asking Feb 25 10:28:49 ^ Feb 25 10:28:54 hahaha xD Feb 25 10:29:15 you think you are funny with that letmegooglethatforyou link? Feb 25 10:29:21 no Feb 25 10:29:24 i think you're an idiot Feb 25 10:29:27 for not googling firstr Feb 25 10:29:30 hahahahahahahha xD Feb 25 10:29:31 s/tr/t/ Feb 25 10:29:31 timeless_w7ip meant: for not googling first Feb 25 10:32:05 fwiw, i'm actually impressed w/ the google hits for that query Feb 25 10:32:13 kudos for the wikians etc Feb 25 10:35:24 * timeless_w7ip notes that the query for meego 1.2 release schedule actually gives the right answer.. Feb 25 10:37:00 stskeeps: anyway, can you try mxr.meego.com/repo.meego.com and tell me what you think? - freetext search isn't ready yet -- alsa-lib and meego-lsb insisted on being evil Feb 25 10:39:54 you see those charts on the release page? Feb 25 10:40:18 (release schedule) Feb 25 10:40:18 http://mxr.meego.com/repo.meego.com/source/meego-lsb/meego-lsb.spec#21 Feb 25 10:40:24 ali1234: yeah Feb 25 10:40:29 they're cute/shiny Feb 25 10:40:31 why do they go new, resolved, verified? Feb 25 10:40:38 instead of? Feb 25 10:40:44 new=bugs that aren't resolved Feb 25 10:40:46 that puts the "actually fixed" bugs in the middle of the bar Feb 25 10:40:54 resolved=bugs that aren't verified Feb 25 10:40:56 it should go new, verified, resolved Feb 25 10:41:05 you know, in the order that things happen Feb 25 10:41:14 a bug's life is "reported", "resolved fixed", "verified fixed" Feb 25 10:41:15 so that you can tell how far "done" it is at a glance Feb 25 10:41:24 ali1234: they go new, assigned, resolved, verified Feb 25 10:41:25 oh, ok Feb 25 10:41:25 * thiago thought that "new = bugs that aren't resolved" and "resolved = bugs that aren't new" Feb 25 10:41:25 verified is closer to done than resolved Feb 25 10:41:29 :-) Feb 25 10:41:34 i thought "verified" was like "confirmed" Feb 25 10:41:35 ali1234: there's a diagram somewhere Feb 25 10:41:35 \o Feb 25 10:41:39 thiago: my aren't we feeling helpful Feb 25 10:41:43 ali1234: no, it means QA tested developer aren't lying Feb 25 10:42:03 https://bugs.meego.com/page.cgi?id=fields.html#status Feb 25 10:42:03 RESOLVED -> bug is fixed Feb 25 10:42:09 VERIFIED -> verified by QA that it is fixed Feb 25 10:42:19 ali1234 ^ Feb 25 10:42:30 RELEASED (if it exists) -> bug fix is in a release Feb 25 10:42:46 http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Bug_Life_Cycle_and_Handling Feb 25 10:42:52 i think the charts are in alphabetical order though, so this is by accident rather than design :) Feb 25 10:42:55 there's generally one stage before NEW for bugs that haven't been confirmed Feb 25 10:43:02 UNCO Feb 25 10:43:14 yep Feb 25 10:43:16 stskeeps: please file a bug Feb 25 10:43:29 that isn't linked from bugs.meego.com's lifecycle page Feb 25 10:43:44 i'd file it, but i don't know my password :( Feb 25 10:43:47 not sure we have UNCO in meego.com Feb 25 10:43:58 the page claims we do Feb 25 10:44:06 it does? Feb 25 10:44:08 timeless_w7ip: Password123! Feb 25 10:44:16 stskeeps: yes, click my link Feb 25 10:44:31 and it's been modified to list released + waiting for upstream which are nonstandard Feb 25 10:44:32 timeless_w7ip: poke andre or iekku Feb 25 10:44:50 oh, i could use bugzilla's password reset feature Feb 25 10:44:52 but i'm lazy Feb 25 10:45:19 the only computer which knows my password is my dead mac Feb 25 10:45:20 so i am Feb 25 10:45:20 :P Feb 25 10:45:36 itym 'so am i' Feb 25 10:45:58 yeah, sorry, learning polish screws up my language.. Feb 25 10:45:59 :P Feb 25 10:46:01 timeless_w7ip: if it's intel, you can remove the hard drive, plug it into another Intel mac and boot from it Feb 25 10:46:50 you should be able to do it with a USB caddy, you just hold down ALT when booting Feb 25 10:49:51 cosmohill: i copied the keychain to another box Feb 25 10:49:59 and finally pulled it down to my g5 Feb 25 10:50:12 ah cool Feb 25 10:50:37 I Rysnc my home directory with my server so if anything happens to my mac I can restore to a new mac Feb 25 10:52:19 and then it took me 5 or so attempts to unlock the keychain.. Feb 25 10:53:01 right, so anyone here do theme work? Feb 25 10:53:19 mxr.meego.com would like to have a meegon Feb 25 10:54:42 I thought texrat did the meegons Feb 25 10:55:36 * timeless_w7ip eyes http://developer.meego.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/sh_triple//sites/default/files/guide/list/image/tools_0.png Feb 25 10:56:47 now I need a password Feb 25 10:57:15 head -c6 /dev/urandom | base64 ? Feb 25 10:57:53 Bostik: I'll have to use that some time, but I meant to get into the site timeless_w7ip linked to Feb 25 10:58:16 CosmoHill: meego/developer Feb 25 10:58:25 hmm, my mic endless waiting problem was a lack of an < damn, I tried that combo backwards Feb 25 10:59:04 cosmohill: i'd bet you could lop off 'developer' and get the file Feb 25 10:59:28 took me a while to work out that the meego was facing away from me and that it was a shelf, not his head Feb 25 10:59:36 hrm, nope Feb 25 10:59:42 i think it's a spirit level? Feb 25 11:01:34 ali: i prefer 'bubble level', but it only has 1, i'm used to 3 Feb 25 11:01:49 * timeless_w7ip is used to Carpenter's level Feb 25 11:02:01 spirit level = UK term i think Feb 25 11:04:25 * timeless_w7ip grumps Feb 25 11:04:36 anyone know where the images live? Feb 25 11:04:40 * timeless_w7ip wants to browse them Feb 25 11:05:24 timeless_w7ip, http://download.meego.com/testing-daily/builds/trunk/ Feb 25 11:05:49 lcuk: not .iso image, .png image Feb 25 11:06:40 then, nope IDK where Feb 25 11:14:47 ok, mxr.meego.com temporarily has a bit of branding Feb 25 11:15:46 the branding and stuff will flicker for a bit while i fold it around Feb 25 11:16:22 hi timeless_w7ip Feb 25 11:23:18 bollocks Feb 25 11:23:58 well there goes my DVD drive :( Feb 25 12:22:45 * alterego wonders if MeeGo input method has a "dialpad" mode. Feb 25 12:28:59 * CosmoHill is running out of disk space on his server :/ Feb 25 12:29:18 * slaine needs more coffee Feb 25 12:29:33 I'll trade you coffee for disk space Feb 25 12:29:49 or the left side wing mirror for a mk4 golf Feb 25 12:30:01 lol Feb 25 12:30:22 between taking me home wednesday night and thursday night my friend lost his Feb 25 12:33:38 Heh Feb 25 12:33:56 I'm the only one of my friends to not have an accident in my car Feb 25 12:47:16 * CosmoHill really should install xfs_dump Feb 25 12:56:48 so... i need a meegon :) Feb 25 12:57:01 has anyone here seen a construction worker /contractor meegon? Feb 25 12:58:16 http://wiki.meego.com/File:Meegon-fr.svg <- Error creating thumbnail: libgomp: Thread creation failed: Resource temporarily unavailable ?? Feb 25 12:59:57 * timeless_office tries https://github.com/nemein/MeeGo/blob/master/images/svg/midmeegon.svg Feb 25 13:06:25 o_O a beer has managed to slide its way all the way from #meego-bar and stopped infront of andre__ Feb 25 13:06:59 lcuk: yay & thanks! *kling* cheers! :) Feb 25 13:26:10 whoever told me to install exiftools, thank you :) Feb 25 13:31:54 what is actually the bugzilla component "OS Base" referring to? Feb 25 13:32:07 I only understand core and platform ;-) Feb 25 13:32:43 could it be the stuff between the core and UX? Feb 25 13:33:55 like medic codecs for example Feb 25 13:42:46 interesting, I'm getting blocked on youtube from viewing videos in my own country Feb 25 13:49:58 hmm the pinetrail image set the brightness wrong today Feb 25 13:51:24 bleh, it's 2pm and I've not done anything today Feb 25 13:56:38 lcuk: i've got a meegon! mxr.meego.com :) Feb 25 13:57:40 timeless_office, thats a cool meegon Feb 25 13:57:43 thanks! Feb 25 13:58:13 and he links to the tools page as well :) Feb 25 13:58:15 double bonus Feb 25 14:00:08 i suspect the colors aren't quite right, if someone wants to recolor him for me, i'll gladly integrate Feb 25 14:00:19 (credit can be given or lost, at the contributor's discretion) Feb 25 14:00:28 he's an svg Feb 25 14:00:44 fwiw, he came from midmeegon.svg Feb 25 14:01:11 i think he might be a bit too tall, opinions? Feb 25 14:03:06 timeless_office: The MeeGo Compliance specification says that all meegoans shall have a width:height ratio between 1:2.35786 and 1:38884. Feb 25 14:04:28 um, i meant in pixels Feb 25 14:04:40 but please feel free to check him against any specs Feb 25 14:06:58 gabrbedd, so, they have an ideal BMI? Feb 25 14:07:03 https://github.com/nemein/MeeGo/blob/master/images/icons/midmeegon.png <- is the related original (as a png, the svg is in a sibling directory) Feb 25 14:07:42 :-) Feb 25 14:16:53 hello Feb 25 14:17:14 how to check what wireless I have on meego Feb 25 14:18:51 what do you mean wireless? Feb 25 14:18:59 you mean scanning for access points? Feb 25 14:19:03 or, what card you have? Feb 25 14:19:07 or what it's called? Feb 25 14:19:12 or... what? Feb 25 14:19:16 hello everyone Feb 25 14:19:20 o Feb 25 14:19:22 o/ Feb 25 14:20:07 hello Feb 25 14:20:19 I need help here Feb 25 14:20:26 how to check what hardware i have on meego Feb 25 14:20:55 i mean my wireless Feb 25 14:22:14 on lsmod. it show i got rt2860sta Feb 25 14:22:28 but then it is not connect, can someone help pls Feb 25 14:22:33 lcuk: so, i've given mxr.meego.com its own favicon Feb 25 14:24:31 anyone can help with RT2860sta or RT3090 wireless setup on Meego...please Feb 25 14:26:55 what's the output of "ifconfig" and "iwconfig" Feb 25 14:28:11 oh com'mon, that's the second DVD drive to fail today Feb 25 14:32:37 what is the Qt Creator ifdef for MeeGo? Feb 25 14:32:59 andylou: see this fixed bug -> https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13194 Feb 25 14:33:01 Bug 13194 nor, Medium, 1.1, ying.an.deng, VERI FIXED, RaLink RT3090 Wireless does not work Feb 25 14:35:21 wmat: andylou is gone, but that helps *me*. Thanks! Feb 25 14:39:27 gabrbedd: great! Feb 25 14:55:10 thanks to whoever just phoned my houseline Feb 25 14:55:29 * lcuk just nearly fell down stairs getting it Feb 25 14:55:59 most likely just a salesman Feb 25 14:56:26 lcuk: you just lost a million pounds Feb 25 14:57:21 qgil, I am sure they will call back. Feb 25 14:57:45 lcuk: you mean, to make yu really fall down the stairs? Feb 25 15:19:21 could anyone please tell me the Qt #ifdef for MeeGo? Feb 25 15:20:11 Venemo: you mean, a compile-time #ifdef to determine that you're compiling for MeeGo? Feb 25 15:20:12 Q_WS_MEEGO ? Feb 25 15:20:18 gabrbedd: correct Feb 25 15:20:33 Venemo: search the logs, it was meantioned not to long ago Feb 25 15:20:37 gabrbedd: also, the section for .pro files Feb 25 15:21:06 I'm pretty sure it is Q_WS_MEEGO Feb 25 15:21:26 Jartza: and what is the .pro file section name? Feb 25 15:21:42 I don't remember Feb 25 15:21:52 Jartza: meego { } ? Feb 25 15:22:13 I thought the policy was that there is no Q_WS_MEEGO and that there would never be one. It's Q_WS_X11. Did this change? Feb 25 15:25:19 hmm Feb 25 15:25:39 I can't quite check now Feb 25 15:27:27 I remember a ML post from thiago several months ago saying that Q_WS_MAEMO was a hack and a mistake and it will not be repeated on MeeGo. I think that was perhaps on meego-dev ML. Feb 25 15:27:49 ...but, things like this seem to change on MeeGo without any mention on meego-dev. Feb 25 15:32:01 gabrbedd: this is bad news :( Feb 25 15:32:15 thiago: is this true? Feb 25 15:32:24 what? Feb 25 15:32:33 yes, there's no #define for MeeGo Feb 25 15:32:38 crap Feb 25 15:32:38 MeeGo is a standard Linux with X11 Feb 25 15:32:39 why not? Feb 25 15:33:12 well, I want my app to appear differently on mobile devices and desktop, and I use #ifdef to distinguish Feb 25 15:33:30 so your app looks the same on a 3" handset and a 30" TV? Feb 25 15:33:36 you can't know at compile time what meeg UX is running your app, and thus not if it is a mobile device Feb 25 15:33:46 thiago: no, because I #ifdeffed the differences Feb 25 15:33:56 and the same as a 10" netbook but different from a 14" laptop? Feb 25 15:34:36 no, you want a form-factor API Feb 25 15:34:41 that's not a compile-time #define Feb 25 15:34:42 thiago: is there one? Feb 25 15:35:00 thiago: formfactor API would be good enough for me. is there such an API? Feb 25 15:35:14