**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 13 02:59:57 2011 Mar 13 05:39:55 lbt_away: is there a way i can force the compiler to compile a package without all the funky cflags that OBS adds? Mar 13 05:40:11 lbt_away: and just use the cflags that configure provides? Mar 13 05:45:04 so i have a cursor like thing on my screen ... 'x' Mar 13 05:45:37 the one which is usually used to kill stuff ... Mar 13 05:51:05 that's the default cursor, bub Mar 13 05:52:16 TSCHAKeee: any ideas how to see the log messages? Mar 13 05:52:29 ctrl-alt-F1 Mar 13 05:52:33 log in, root/meego Mar 13 05:52:35 lolz Mar 13 05:52:43 TSCHAKeee: this is a desire Mar 13 05:52:45 :D Mar 13 05:53:14 once you're logged in, you can go to /var/log Mar 13 05:53:17 and read the log messages Mar 13 05:53:24 they're in /var/log Mar 13 05:53:41 yeah i'm mounting the micro SD carda and checking them via the PC Mar 13 05:53:46 lets hope they are there Mar 13 05:54:34 ... Mar 13 05:54:47 you mean you're too fucking scared to ctrl-alt-F1 to a console? Mar 13 05:54:51 really? Mar 13 05:54:55 ;) Mar 13 05:55:11 what Mar 13 05:55:20 TSCHAKeee: dude .. this is not a N900 :D Mar 13 05:55:40 can you not attach a keyboard? Mar 13 05:55:47 nope Mar 13 05:59:36 boot.log : http://paste.kde.org/7210 Mar 13 06:00:21 there are some interesting use-cases that are possible with a wristwatch graphical client for a smartphone Mar 13 06:00:49 huh Mar 13 06:00:55 loads of file descriptor errors Mar 13 06:01:53 http://paste.kde.org/7211/ Mar 13 09:35:21 hi everyone...i'm interested in the meego project. but i do not have the ava dev phone nor do i have a VT enabled processor. is there any way that i can contribute to the OS dev? Mar 13 09:36:01 meego runs on netbooks and the n900 phone Mar 13 09:36:54 pupaway: ok. will try the netbook image then. Mar 13 09:36:59 rigved: you can develop on atom and arm too Mar 13 09:40:03 Stskeeps: will i be able to use chroot for such, as i do not access to any dev platform that has arm or atom. i can test the image on my coll PCs but can't do dev there. Mar 13 09:40:19 Stskeeps, pupaway: thanks for your help Mar 13 09:41:12 rigved: ssse3 is basically needed for x86 side at least Mar 13 09:50:27 Stskeeps: ok. i checked the cpu flags. i have ssse3. thanks again for your help. now i'll try to get a basic dev env working Mar 13 09:53:51 bwahaha Mar 13 09:54:01 this image is taking up too much time to write Mar 13 09:54:07 a 1000 secs gone by Mar 13 10:06:56 brains.... Mar 13 10:07:06 gone? Mar 13 10:07:40 I'm defiantly only physically awake Mar 13 10:08:08 never before has tea been so confusing to make Mar 13 10:09:54 wow, since when has youtube supported 4K? Mar 13 10:13:24 4k resolution? Mar 13 10:13:29 yep Mar 13 10:13:51 "In July 2010, YouTube began streaming certain videos at a resolution of up to 4096 x 2304 (in the 16:9 aspect ratio) to 4096 x 3072 (4:3).[1] Registered users at YouTube are allowed to upload videos with a resolution higher than 1080p." Mar 13 10:14:19 streaming?! Mar 13 10:14:30 what's the bandwidth required to watch one of those live? Mar 13 10:15:13 I have a friend who works for Cisco and he told me that their 4k prototypes have 4 HDMI cables to transport the info Mar 13 10:18:34 Really? but single link HDMI supports 10.2Gb/s Mar 13 10:18:57 maybe because they were connecting to 4 1080p screens... Mar 13 10:19:28 that makes a lot more sense then, I thought they were connecting one device Mar 13 10:19:51 thiago_home: the data is a "bit" more compressed than over HDMI. But still pretty solid bandwith required, I can imagine Mar 13 10:20:38 I thought HDMI transmitted uncompressed Mar 13 10:21:48 4096x3072 x 30 x 4 = 1440 MB/s Mar 13 10:22:03 is there someway other than mic-image-writer i can write my RAW image file to? Mar 13 10:22:16 because the writer is stuck at 100 % Mar 13 10:22:16 dd? Mar 13 10:22:27 Stskeeps: doesn't work for some reason on my HTC Desire Mar 13 10:22:33 ends up booting into Android Mar 13 10:22:53 hardware adaptation is hard :P Mar 13 10:22:59 yeah Mar 13 10:23:08 i spent last night reading about kickstart Mar 13 10:23:13 and writing a kickstart file Mar 13 10:23:50 i actually managed to get it running once Mar 13 10:23:56 where i had a x cursor Mar 13 10:24:04 but that's all that happenend Mar 13 10:24:36 /bin/dd: writing `/dev/sdb': No space left on device Mar 13 10:24:37 :S Mar 13 10:25:46 which one of these do i NOT need? http://paste.kde.org/7221 Mar 13 10:26:11 OpenVG Mar 13 10:26:49 anything else i can use to slim down the image? Mar 13 10:27:04 it's about 100 megs bigger Mar 13 10:27:10 shadeslayer: -sample-media Mar 13 10:27:37 whut? Mar 13 10:28:18 mesa-libGLESv1 Mar 13 10:28:18 mesa-libGLESv2 Mar 13 10:28:23 do i need both of them? Mar 13 10:28:25 no Mar 13 10:28:30 GLESv1 is also unnecessary Mar 13 10:28:37 well, for Qt. I hear some games find it useful. Mar 13 10:28:39 okay so remove both? Mar 13 10:28:40 shadeslayer: sample-media is about 150mb and not needed Mar 13 10:28:42 no Mar 13 10:28:45 you need GLESv2 Mar 13 10:28:49 right Mar 13 10:29:08 Stskeeps: i don't see sample-media in my ks Mar 13 10:29:48 here's the entire file http://paste.kde.org/7222 Mar 13 10:29:49 might be in a package group Mar 13 10:30:20 so %packages --excludedocs --excludesample-media ? Mar 13 10:31:37 just add -sample-media Mar 13 10:31:43 minus in front maeks it not include it Mar 13 10:31:50 okay Mar 13 10:33:53 out of curiousity: how many years do you expect your fridge to work, from when you buy it? Mar 13 10:34:04 5-7 Mar 13 10:34:42 though my parents have just retired a fridge that was 15 years old Mar 13 10:34:46 and how long does smartphone companies usually keep making updates to their phones? Mar 13 10:35:23 2 years, 3 at most Mar 13 10:35:34 k Mar 13 10:39:11 hmm Mar 13 10:39:19 it's still 1.9 GB Mar 13 10:39:25 i need a bigger microsd card :/ Mar 13 10:39:31 change your partition lines then Mar 13 10:41:19 on that note, my washing machine died recently, i need to deal w/ it :( Mar 13 10:41:22 i don't see any Mar 13 10:43:04 shadeslayer: well that might by why then Mar 13 11:03:48 the image is still pretty big Mar 13 11:07:38 timeless_w7ip: ours only dies with a full load and water in it Mar 13 11:07:53 you could make the partition smaller if there a lot of empty space Mar 13 11:08:01 part / --size=1800 --ondisk mmcblk0p --fstype=btrfs Mar 13 11:08:10 reduce the size param Mar 13 11:08:13 could you strip out man pages / documents and debugging flags? Mar 13 11:09:01 cosmohill: mine isn't turning on Mar 13 11:09:17 hopefully it's just a fuse somewhere Mar 13 11:09:21 it's possible the plug came out or somethign similarly annoying Mar 13 11:09:26 or that i need to replace a fuse Mar 13 11:20:07 timeless_w7ip: yeah i did that Mar 13 11:20:11 lets see now Mar 13 11:20:17 er Mar 13 11:20:20 s/timeless_w7ip/timoph Mar 13 11:20:28 yeah, i didn't think you had a bad washing machine :) Mar 13 11:20:42 :) Mar 13 11:21:01 but if you have a good one, could we trade? :) Mar 13 11:21:22 it should help since just removing packages won't make the partions any smaller.. Mar 13 11:21:31 hmm Mar 13 11:21:51 timoph: so that reduces the image to 1800 megs? Mar 13 11:21:53 the partition sizes are set in the .ks Mar 13 11:22:07 shadeslayer: 1800 is the default Mar 13 11:22:14 okay Mar 13 11:22:17 try something like 1600 Mar 13 11:25:00 if the image size is something like 1.7G after that, it worked :) Mar 13 11:25:14 timoph: since i have different hardware do you think i should copy the compiled kernel modules to the sd card? Mar 13 11:25:22 or will the packages suffice Mar 13 11:25:27 dunno Mar 13 11:43:11 thanks Mar 13 11:43:14 it's writing now Mar 13 11:59:33 Hello all Mar 13 12:00:36 hey wazd Mar 13 12:02:41 I have one more netbook UI specific question. Is there a built-in method to draw a shadow under "popped" icon in meego toolbar or I should have separate icon for this? Mar 13 12:02:47 thiago_home: o/ Mar 13 12:26:31 thiago: hey, do you know the story behind 'numerusforms'? Mar 13 13:28:12 Good day! Is there any gps/map solution for MeeGo already please? Mar 13 13:28:20 Maybe open street map client? Mar 13 13:28:54 This is the main feature which will allow me to use MeeGo as regular everyday OS since 1.2 will be released Mar 13 13:30:40 valianholt: I am a happy user of mappero. Mar 13 13:30:57 me also with N900, so is it ported? :O Mar 13 13:31:12 BUT, I only use it when on foot/public transport and I live in Helsinki, we get public transport rouiting here Mar 13 13:31:28 gah, my bad, reading would have helped, sorry Mar 13 13:31:31 sure, I don't own a car Mar 13 13:31:42 but I need foot navigation a lot Mar 13 13:31:46 I read maemo instead of the meego you wrote Mar 13 13:31:52 ah Mar 13 13:32:01 yes that's the point, with Maemo there is no problem Mar 13 13:32:30 is there any way how to view app repositories of MeeGo from web browser? Mar 13 13:32:50 like Maemo for example? Mar 13 13:33:10 file structure is enough Mar 13 13:39:27 valianholt? Mar 13 13:39:35 mxr.meego.com/meego.gitorious.org ? Mar 13 13:39:52 or mxr.meego.com/repo.meego.com ? Mar 13 13:40:00 depending on what you mean by an app repository Mar 13 13:40:40 sounds like you mean maemo.org/downloads Mar 13 13:40:57 * timeless_w7ip doesn't think an equivalent is particularly ready yet Mar 13 13:41:35 no equivalent of maemo downloads needed, just simple package file structure Mar 13 13:41:42 or ftp structure Mar 13 13:43:35 http://mxr.meego.com/repo.meego.com/source/ Mar 13 13:43:44 this is what I wanted, thanks a lot! Mar 13 13:44:26 it isn't guaranteed to be current, i think there's a slightly newer one in draft-repo.meego.com Mar 13 13:44:32 i'm still working out some kinks Mar 13 14:07:15 open-sourced OS uses 1k euro font as the default, meheh Mar 13 14:07:41 ? Mar 13 14:08:09 timeless_w7ip: http://www.fontshop.com/fontlist/super_families/ff_din/ Mar 13 14:09:56 oh, I guess I'm slightly wrong. It's just a logo font Mar 13 14:12:38 anyone managed to run meego on n8 yet? Mar 13 14:16:27 esdf: you have a signing key for the n8? Mar 13 14:16:57 standard nokia phones will not let you flash something that isn't signed... Mar 13 14:17:01 esdf: don't forget that it's an ARMv6 with proprietary OpenGL drivers Mar 13 14:17:15 Oh my, just had a major Google fail Mar 13 14:17:16 * CosmoHill updates the FAQ Mar 13 14:17:32 cosmohill++ Mar 13 14:17:33 timeless_w7ip: how do you mean? wtf is signing key? Mar 13 14:17:49 tried to google for "meego applications" and it said "Did you mean "maemo applications?" :D Mar 13 14:17:51 funny, I swear the iphone was on the FAQ Mar 13 14:17:54 esdf: ever heard of trusted computing? Mar 13 14:18:02 wazd: nice Mar 13 14:18:06 esdf: short, non-techy answer: no Mar 13 14:18:21 timeless_w7ip: you mean that microsoft bullshit? Mar 13 14:18:25 esdf: phones are not like the open computers with which you're familiar Mar 13 14:18:26 esdf: no Mar 13 14:18:36 esdf: have you ever flashed a phone with an image you created yourself? Mar 13 14:18:40 nop Mar 13 14:18:41 esdf: it's a general industry concept Mar 13 14:18:42 im quite new Mar 13 14:18:46 to smartphones Mar 13 14:18:51 and mobile tralala Mar 13 14:18:52 :D Mar 13 14:18:55 esdf: simple answer: you can't Mar 13 14:19:01 the fact that microsoft is involved is because microsoft is in the industry Mar 13 14:19:06 :( Mar 13 14:19:08 sad Mar 13 14:19:11 Nokia N8 is pre-MS Mar 13 14:19:16 the HW doesn't let you run any software you may want Mar 13 14:19:23 owell at least complete ui rewrite for symbian 3 is coming in pr2.0 Mar 13 14:19:28 you're sad that you can't do something that no one promised you'd be able to do? Mar 13 14:19:29 i hope it's the qt rewrite Mar 13 14:19:33 that was announced Mar 13 14:19:59 timeless_w7ip: i'm sad just because i hoped for some mangling with my device, and now i found out i can't Mar 13 14:20:10 well, um Mar 13 14:20:19 next time you should do your research *before* you buy Mar 13 14:20:41 well it's really same shit for every phone more or less Mar 13 14:20:46 i wanted to buy n900 Mar 13 14:20:53 why didn't you? Mar 13 14:20:53 but wasn't anywhere in stores, so i went with n8 Mar 13 14:20:58 this seem alright: Mar 13 14:20:59 == Phones MeeGo will not run on == Mar 13 14:20:59 * Nokia N8, requires signed images from Nokia Mar 13 14:20:59 * Apple iPhone, closed platform Mar 13 14:21:12 i'm in croatia, it's 2 yrs old, it's nowhere to be found here:/ Mar 13 14:21:13 ebay/... Mar 13 14:21:41 tho, i kinda wish i waited just a tiny bit longer to get e7 Mar 13 14:21:42 a group here bought out the last supply of n900s from the local store Mar 13 14:21:44 CosmoHill: well, they somehow managed to run android on the iphone :P Mar 13 14:21:45 since it seems completely kickass Mar 13 14:22:04 wazd: using a root exploit you can do all sorts of amusing things Mar 13 14:22:06 timeless_w7ip: anyone givin out 1 for free? ;P Mar 13 14:22:28 http://cgi.ebay.com/Nokia-N900-UNLOCKED-GSM-5MP-32GB-WiFi-GPS-Bluetooth-/120697078540?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item1c1a1b430c Mar 13 14:22:44 wazd: not really open source if they charge you $30 per phone Mar 13 14:22:44 unlocked! Mar 13 14:22:47 oh my! Mar 13 14:22:49 anyway, dont get me wrong, i'm quite happy with n8 and i dont regret it buying it over some android or iphone Mar 13 14:22:50 looks like you could pick one up for 300usd +s/h Mar 13 14:22:56 http://cgi.ebay.com/Nokia-N900-UNLOCKED-GSM-5MP-32GB-WiFi-GPS-Bluetooth-/150576196130?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item230f0a6a22 Mar 13 14:23:06 which reminds me Mar 13 14:23:07 oh god it's spam Mar 13 14:23:12 i need to upload my n8 photos Mar 13 14:23:18 with the whole nokia meego device circus I'm seriously considering to just go for a E7 as my business device and ignore the crap. (and keep the n900 as my private device) Mar 13 14:23:19 * timeless_w7ip has about a hundred of them Mar 13 14:23:30 I tried to leave the iphone android website and it goes "wait, I'll let you have it for $19!" Mar 13 14:23:38 dm8tbr: fwiw, i had the option of expensing an e7 or n8 to nokia Mar 13 14:23:40 I'm running meego on my Archos tablets that has to be enough Mar 13 14:23:42 E7 is nice yeah Mar 13 14:23:47 i'd tried the e7 and found the keyboard edges painful Mar 13 14:23:55 so i chose the n8 Mar 13 14:23:57 what are the advantages over n8 tho? (aside from physical qwerty)? Mar 13 14:24:04 timeless_w7ip: I'm trying to get one to try exactly that out Mar 13 14:24:13 dm8tbr: screen Mar 13 14:24:14 i'm surprised with how long n8's battery runs Mar 13 14:24:19 esdf: yeah Mar 13 14:24:29 the n8's battery life is impressive Mar 13 14:24:31 i mean... i listen to music 2 days in a row, 4-6hrs a day Mar 13 14:24:36 and it didnt die on me Mar 13 14:24:42 + i had still in it 1 day of calls left Mar 13 14:24:42 long battery lie is so 2005 Mar 13 14:24:48 life* Mar 13 14:24:53 i was like omg this phone is $$$$ Mar 13 14:25:01 yes, 4 dollars! Mar 13 14:25:04 ye Mar 13 14:25:05 wazd: try 2000 Mar 13 14:25:05 :D Mar 13 14:25:18 im reading bout android phones, battery life 1d Mar 13 14:25:22 iOS - less then Mar 13 14:25:27 timeless_w7ip: maybe :) Mar 13 14:25:31 gone are the days when battery life was part of the advertisement Mar 13 14:25:31 which reminds me Mar 13 14:25:33 doesn't MeeGo murder batteries? Mar 13 14:25:39 CosmoHill: depends on the HW Mar 13 14:25:40 time to swap my n900's battery Mar 13 14:25:49 btw Mar 13 14:25:50 I'll take that as a yes Mar 13 14:25:57 any site with qt apps for n8? Mar 13 14:26:04 ovi store? Mar 13 14:26:08 esdf, ovi Mar 13 14:26:12 ovi store is a clusterfuck Mar 13 14:26:18 searching for something there Mar 13 14:26:20 is impossible Mar 13 14:26:23 like using bing search :D Mar 13 14:26:36 i enter "voyager" in ovi store, 0 results Mar 13 14:26:42 just grab 'putty' Mar 13 14:26:43 bing search is alright and could you mind your language Mar 13 14:26:47 well many of my friends seem to have no trouble nowadays gettign stuff from ovi Mar 13 14:26:48 then i enter "voyage" and voyager home screen turns out 20th Mar 13 14:27:00 it's just a bad search engine Mar 13 14:27:00 lcuk: can they get SkyFire? Mar 13 14:27:03 i tried, and failed Mar 13 14:27:10 i also tried a couple of other things Mar 13 14:27:12 to the point of trying to use ovi store as lass as possible Mar 13 14:27:13 timeless_w7ip, idk Mar 13 14:27:18 ovi store has issues Mar 13 14:27:19 less* Mar 13 14:27:29 esdf: "little" Mar 13 14:27:34 ah ok thanks Mar 13 14:27:38 yeah it does, but that does not mean it is useless Mar 13 14:27:54 true, it's merely unusable :) Mar 13 14:27:57 lcuk: for me it's close to useless Mar 13 14:28:26 i mean, i dont feel like scrolling endless screens to find app i might like just because keywords entered in search dont give any results for some reason Mar 13 14:28:39 I've liked ovi store mobile ui, but don't like to browse it with a real browser, cause that has huge issues Mar 13 14:29:09 oh nice new ovi version, maybe that fixes some issues Mar 13 14:29:14 but at least the experience with n8 is ok Mar 13 14:29:45 timeless_w7ip: btw there's putty in ovi store? :S Mar 13 14:30:10 esdf: it isn't Mar 13 14:30:16 you go elsewhere for it Mar 13 14:30:20 google :) Mar 13 14:30:28 nah i thought there's some putty version in ovi Mar 13 14:30:32 I do have putty already on my phone Mar 13 14:30:37 putty is windows only Mar 13 14:30:42 cosmo: err, no Mar 13 14:30:48 really? Mar 13 14:30:49 just the problem is, that it's really slow on response Mar 13 14:30:49 putty is actually rather portable Mar 13 14:30:51 I have touch putty in my n8 Mar 13 14:31:03 does it respond to your input fast? Mar 13 14:31:04 so, not win only Mar 13 14:31:08 http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Networking/PuTTY-347.shtml Mar 13 14:31:09 i need to wait like... 30s for it to respond Mar 13 14:31:15 that's putty for linux :) Mar 13 14:31:18 when i ssh into my box, reattach irssi for example Mar 13 14:31:27 fast enough, but I dislike my vkb Mar 13 14:31:40 timeless_w7ip: putty for linux? funny Mar 13 14:31:46 matrixx: got soem link to where you got it from Mar 13 14:31:49 esdf: it works to prove a point Mar 13 14:31:55 esdf: wait a sec Mar 13 14:31:55 people don't believe symbian is a real os Mar 13 14:32:11 isnt symbian based on linux? Mar 13 14:32:11 son of a bitch, I indirectly know that guy Mar 13 14:32:18 cosmo: which guy? Mar 13 14:32:25 the one who wrote putty Mar 13 14:32:46 omg, my system almost died when I typed "touch putty" to firefox search field :D Mar 13 14:32:48 the tech's daughter went to university with him Mar 13 14:33:07 esdf: I used to have a problem with putty on series80 Mar 13 14:33:17 esdf: it would take ages to connect Mar 13 14:33:20 which reminds me Mar 13 14:33:27 http://s52.radikal.ru/i136/1103/e8/e356a9838393.png <- what do you think? Mar 13 14:33:45 wazd: error 503 Mar 13 14:33:47 dm8tbr: well like i said, it does ssh into my box quite fast, but when i issue a command, for instance screen -dr xyz Mar 13 14:33:55 it takes ages for putty to respond Mar 13 14:34:03 that's rather weird Mar 13 14:34:29 wazd: cute, too bad that netbook's going away ;) Mar 13 14:34:39 esdf: apparently I need to reboot my system :( you can find the putty by searching "touch putty", if I recall correctly, it was made by some finnish guy :) Mar 13 14:34:40 wazd, which day on the chart is "today" Mar 13 14:34:55 matrixx: hmm let me check who made mine Mar 13 14:34:56 and is it possible to have the top weather icon actually show the weath for it? Mar 13 14:35:23 btw someone should port sony vegas to symbian3 :DD it'd be a shame for n8 to not have it considering it's hardware haha :D Mar 13 14:35:44 esdf =~ s/it's/its/ Mar 13 14:35:51 ? Mar 13 14:35:52 lcuk: you mean like how the mac calendar icon displays todays date? Mar 13 14:36:03 esdf: he's correcting your grammar Mar 13 14:36:03 timeless_w7ip: ah yeah Mar 13 14:36:04 CosmoHill, IDK Mar 13 14:36:18 but if you want to get me a mac, I would see for you Mar 13 14:36:52 CosmoHill, I am used to a calendar showing me well, the calendar Mar 13 14:37:05 lcuk: i mean the dock icon Mar 13 14:37:42 CosmoHill, Iknow it has a dock, but never looked at its contents Mar 13 14:38:11 dm8tbr: orly? :) Mar 13 14:38:43 lcuk: none, that's just a viual test. icons are just placeholders too :) Mar 13 14:39:51 wazd, roger Mar 13 14:43:09 esdf: I downloaded putty from here: http://bd.kicks-ass.net/koodaus/putty/ Mar 13 14:43:41 think i have the same thing, but thanks, ill give it a try Mar 13 14:44:49 esdf: oh, you want to grab about half a dozen google apps Mar 13 14:44:55 you can get them from m.google.com Mar 13 14:45:07 but skip latitude, it's a dated dupe of maps Mar 13 14:45:07 timeless_w7ip: only one i grabbed from there is youtube Mar 13 14:45:24 don't know if i should get google maps since ovi maps seem great Mar 13 14:45:57 grab at least maps Mar 13 14:46:01 if you use gmail, grab it Mar 13 14:46:21 doesn't google maps require you to have internet access? Mar 13 14:46:23 hmm, i do have mobile documents for gmail and other stuff Mar 13 14:47:27 also you probably want mIRGGI, Opera Mobile, Opera Mini, Skype Mar 13 14:47:35 cosmo: generally, yeah Mar 13 14:47:46 but its map info isn't going to tell you that detroit is in canada Mar 13 14:47:59 nor will it teleport you from the south pole to the north pole if you look at it funny Mar 13 14:48:34 you've not seen my phone at it Mar 13 14:48:36 have you* Mar 13 14:48:43 * lcuk waits patiently for stepping disk technology Mar 13 14:48:59 timeless_w7ip: http://black-flag.co.uk/files/phone-2.jpg Mar 13 14:49:12 ... Mar 13 14:49:13 lcuk: btw, the black tape on the right is not bright red tape cos it came off Mar 13 14:49:14 phone abuser Mar 13 14:49:18 * timeless_w7ip reports cosmohill Mar 13 14:49:29 select keys are over rated Mar 13 14:49:36 the phone has already reported Cosmo Mar 13 14:50:07 * timeless_w7ip sighs Mar 13 14:50:18 it's my everyday phone btw Mar 13 14:50:18 * timeless_w7ip should really send these pictures to an album service Mar 13 14:51:09 * timeless_w7ip tries to remember how to trash an app on S^3 Mar 13 14:51:20 have you tired opening it Mar 13 14:52:47 timeless_w7ip, this was a sign up at the telecommunications weekend I went to yesterday, it was in the BT Busby area, have a squint at some of the answers: http://liqbase.net/20110312_027.jpg Mar 13 14:53:46 nice Mar 13 14:54:06 S^3 gets points for the worst ui for uninstalling apps that i can remember Mar 13 14:54:18 it even makes M5 seem good Mar 13 14:55:20 lcuk: that yellow one on the left looks like my hand writing Mar 13 14:55:41 lcuk: also, is that a penis on the far right? Mar 13 14:57:00 haha Mar 13 14:57:08 hold on, I might have a better shot of that Mar 13 14:57:13 I took a few photos Mar 13 14:58:04 CosmoHill, no it appears to be a childs drawing of a person Mar 13 14:58:21 sideways Mar 13 14:58:28 you are seeing the feet Mar 13 14:58:31 * timeless_w7ip tries to remember the password for gallery Mar 13 14:58:33 * lcuk giggles tho Mar 13 15:00:26 http://liqbase.net/20110312_031.jpg "Less personal. Whats wrong with talking to someone or writing a letter?" Mar 13 15:00:50 or the COD black ops reference, you choose Mar 13 15:08:58 "it's not that I don't like you, it's just my spam box thinks you're a dick" Mar 13 15:19:54 lcuk: http://timeless.justdave.net/gallery/v/n8/ Mar 13 15:20:13 it's missing some gems Mar 13 15:20:37 especially the messages when you try to exit offline mode w/o a sim inserted Mar 13 15:21:12 so what is wrong with it? Mar 13 15:21:32 [asking because I will have to deal with E7 pretty soon, so need toknow what to expect] Mar 13 15:21:47 rst: which? Mar 13 15:21:56 the one that says "please insert sim" Mar 13 15:22:06