**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Apr 03 02:59:58 2011 Apr 03 05:42:20 * Stskeeps yawns Apr 03 05:48:07 * w00t_ echos that Apr 03 05:50:23 has anyone made a little bit of C or python that catches connman connected to network events? Apr 03 05:56:04 isnt it dbus? Apr 03 06:03:13 yeah Apr 03 06:03:29 was just seeing if someone did a little bit of glue code before I whipped up something myself :) Apr 03 06:16:17 Stskeeps: morning Apr 03 06:16:50 Stskeeps: 94% reviewed. Just need to look into those testing-related submissions and do a second pass. Apr 03 06:17:08 o/ thiago Apr 03 06:17:13 did you travel safely? :) Apr 03 06:17:17 yep Apr 03 06:17:27 though the flight crew was mad at me Apr 03 06:17:31 I was the last one to board Apr 03 06:17:38 hehehe Apr 03 06:17:47 late getting to the airport? Apr 03 06:17:55 no Apr 03 06:17:59 from the lounge to the gate Apr 03 06:18:08 I thought the flight was 16:50 Apr 03 06:18:25 thiago: cool Apr 03 06:18:29 so I was happily in the lounge at 16:05 when they announced that they would close the flight Apr 03 06:18:35 it was departure at 16:15 Apr 03 06:18:50 oops Apr 03 06:18:59 thiago: when was it dirk was supposed to be back? Apr 03 06:19:46 he said he'd be back Thursday Apr 03 06:20:39 k Apr 03 06:37:11 will there be certified qt developer exams in the san francisco conference like there was in dublin? Apr 03 06:46:44 Hq`: we haven't planned Apr 03 06:47:01 Hq`: you're looking to get certified? Apr 03 06:49:26 thiago: yes... that would've been a good excuse to ask my employer to send me to SF ;) Apr 03 06:49:55 I'll ask in the next call Apr 03 06:53:09 ok, thanks Apr 03 06:54:08 I'll probably have to settle for taking the exam here in finland at some point, though :P Apr 03 06:54:41 you know, you should convince your employer to send you to SF for the conference itself Apr 03 06:55:00 we've got a lot of good proposals Apr 03 06:56:14 there should be instructions how to convince employer atleast a howto:) Apr 03 06:56:26 start one on the wiki Apr 03 06:56:27 yeah, I guess it wouldn't hurt to ask anyway Apr 03 06:56:32 :) Apr 03 07:08:01 I'm not good for writing those because I'm strugling to come up good reason to convince employer Apr 03 07:18:53 morning Apr 03 08:17:10 lbt, linkpac -C option is interesting Apr 03 08:19:54 * lbt looks Apr 03 08:20:15 /me cherrot Apr 03 08:20:49 Stskeeps: no .... please no... Apr 03 08:21:53 lbt, well, isnt the solution, but 'copy' is useful for armv7nhl packages which need to follow the orig pkgs one Apr 03 08:21:54 yes it solves your immediate problem... but the whole unlabelled changelog entry and the rest of the complexity in vendor numbering Apr 03 08:22:01 *nod* Apr 03 08:22:13 I can see it being useful for a transient fork Apr 03 08:22:36 and until core realise they're not their own customers :) Apr 03 08:24:48 lbt, i don't like it but my solution ended up with default linkpac behaviour (add) and linking to specific revision (current), and then scripting some tool to make us know when upstream cicount changes Apr 03 08:27:06 I need to fix some infra issues - can we get back to the changelog entry thing tomorrow? Apr 03 08:27:07 so we can pull new changes Apr 03 08:27:11 ok Apr 03 10:31:18 https://www.meego.com/user/login hasnt woke up yet Apr 03 10:40:42 it's a weekend, let it sleep Apr 03 10:53:11 * thiago will go back to sleep Apr 03 10:55:29 good idea :) Apr 03 11:05:29 rzr1: thanks for mentioning it Apr 03 11:05:47 you're welcome Apr 03 11:06:37 is OBS open to any members? Apr 03 11:07:08 community obs is open for open source work Apr 03 11:07:17 just poke lbt or x-fade Apr 03 11:07:47 yes Apr 03 11:07:54 and *it* is up ;) Apr 03 11:07:58 good Apr 03 11:08:10 is there a webpage to start ? Apr 03 11:08:22 https://build.pub.meego.com/user/register_user Apr 03 11:08:24 https://build.pub.meego.com/user/register_user ;) Apr 03 11:08:28 :) Apr 03 11:08:44 confirm what you're doing, let me know the account name Apr 03 11:09:30 i think it's rzr Apr 03 11:09:47 i plan to build a game i just ported to meego Apr 03 11:10:09 ok - so long as it's opensource Apr 03 11:10:16 and.. enabled Apr 03 11:10:25 gpl2+ Apr 03 11:11:24 i confirm Apr 03 11:11:26 * rzr1 is rzr Apr 03 11:11:49 *nod* ... enabled already :) Apr 03 11:42:24 lbt: thx Apr 03 11:42:50 wait i have already some account on suse obs Apr 03 11:43:12 * lbt has an account on google.com Apr 03 11:43:29 and google as an account on your brain :) Apr 03 11:44:02 should i use osc and friends like on suse builder ? Apr 03 11:45:17 yes Apr 03 11:45:28 initiall you need the -A option Apr 03 11:46:05 then (provided your .oscrc has no 'default') it will pick up the right obs from the cwd Apr 03 11:46:34 "Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still does not work, try logging out and logging back in. " Apr 03 11:46:44 (wiki.meego.com) Apr 03 11:46:51 is it just me or ? Apr 03 11:47:11 achipa: not the host is in east japan Apr 03 11:47:12 (needless to say, I tried loggin in-out, restarting browser, etc) Apr 03 12:04:22 achipa: hold on Apr 03 12:07:13 achipa: mmm .... WFM... sorry Apr 03 12:07:32 tell me more... Apr 03 12:10:43 lbt: hm, still the same for me... trying to edit http://wiki.meego.com/index.php?title=Local_MeeGo_Networks/MeeGo_Network_Finland/MeeGo_Summit_FI_Hosting_Team Apr 03 12:11:10 Server returned an error: HTTP Error 401: Unauthorized Apr 03 12:11:11 :( Apr 03 12:11:23 hang on... Apr 03 12:14:32 there is some monkey business going on... I can edit from the main 'edit' tab but if I try to edit sections directly, it gets cooky Apr 03 12:14:41 ooh Apr 03 12:15:29 yep ... well found that man! Apr 03 12:16:01 why is my meego installation changing its /etc/localtime to Europe/Helsinki everytime I reboot? Apr 03 12:16:34 lbt:

Unknown user 'rzr' or invalid password

Apr 03 12:16:52 where to set pwd ? on m.org ? Apr 03 12:17:01 .com Apr 03 12:17:02 err Apr 03 12:18:19 achipa: cc on this https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15178 if you like Apr 03 12:18:24 rzr1: where? Apr 03 12:18:49 osc ls Apr 03 12:18:55 i can paste the log Apr 03 12:19:06 pastebin - yes Apr 03 12:19:26 are you using osc -A ? Apr 03 12:19:37 otherwise it may use suse obs Apr 03 12:20:36 lbt: thx, CCadded Apr 03 12:20:57 http://who.is.free.fr/dokuwiki/doku.php/meego#error Apr 03 12:22:54 rzr1: OK works here so it's not the server Apr 03 12:24:11 so your .oscrc file - does that now have an https://api.pub.meego.com entry ? Apr 03 12:24:48 (I assume you can login to https://build.pub.meego.com ) Apr 03 12:24:52 i deleted it Apr 03 12:25:03 it was generated on 1st try Apr 03 12:25:25 so - confirm web page works Apr 03 12:25:27 i log/out again Apr 03 12:26:12 ok i cant login again Apr 03 12:26:53 now it's ok Apr 03 12:27:02 password are not sync w/ Apr 03 12:27:08 well nevermind it ok Apr 03 12:27:09 ah Apr 03 12:27:10 OK Apr 03 12:27:18 password changes take an hour to sync Apr 03 12:27:43 or rather, sync on the hour Apr 03 12:27:59 will that be it rzr1? Apr 03 12:28:14 no just rzr Apr 03 12:28:21 i'll commit in a sec Apr 03 12:28:27 thx for your time Apr 03 12:28:54 OK --- I just parsed your messages.... :) Apr 03 12:49:51 morning Apr 03 12:50:21 morning berndhs Apr 03 15:22:50 bleh Apr 03 15:23:04 so much marketing crap out there when it comes to home routers Apr 03 15:23:36 and hype Apr 03 15:23:59 there is nothing a regular home user will want from a 300Mb/s 'ultimate' gaming wifi router than a high gain 54g router can't do Apr 03 15:24:03 i went for a hype with netgear wndr3700, bit of a dissapointment Apr 03 15:24:22 (ADSL2+ speeds being 24Mb/s) Apr 03 15:24:25 not to mention some pretty broken out-of-the-box, hidden-from-user QoS Apr 03 15:24:51 "net == WoW + www + bittorrent" Apr 03 15:24:59 and irc Apr 03 15:25:23 I'm waiting for TP-Link to release a ADSL2+ router with 300Mb/s wifi and gigabit ethernet Apr 03 15:26:34 I can't understand the point of having wireless N if the backend is only fast ethernet Apr 03 15:26:56 Why do you want a modem/router combo? Apr 03 15:27:07 not all traffic is going out of your network Apr 03 15:27:16 Just buy a standalone router. Apr 03 15:27:34 GAN900: i duno, it's just the norm for the UK Apr 03 15:27:56 That's silly Apr 03 15:28:02 byor Apr 03 15:28:58 I have been thinking of getting a separate modem incase we change to BT infinity or Virgin Media so we can just plug the new modem into the router Apr 03 15:31:02 I also like the idea of being able to install DD-WRT Apr 03 15:31:33 i like the openwrt bit more Apr 03 15:31:48 dd-wrt was too easy:) Apr 03 15:31:56 I think I can install openwrt onto my Netgear DG834G v3 Apr 03 15:32:16 tbh I just want a modem that doesn't think -1db is a good noise margin Apr 03 15:33:44 I would like to abolish all home DRL router that choke and reboot when uplink speeds exceed 700kB/s (*cough* linksys *cough*) Apr 03 15:34:07 fun didn' Apr 03 15:34:14 didn't begin to describe that one Apr 03 15:34:19 dd-wrt is a horrible mess Apr 03 15:34:23 our router gives us a low noise margin has has a nasty habit of holding onto useless connections, forcing us to reboot it Apr 03 15:34:36 their build system is from hell and they use antique tools Apr 03 15:34:38 sometimes it drops and gets a new one Apr 03 15:35:57 and so is the nvram settings store they use on it Apr 03 15:36:23 does open-wrt have a web based gui? Apr 03 15:36:28 yep Apr 03 15:36:33 ooo Apr 03 15:36:33 both have Apr 03 15:37:05 but it is quite easy to do setup with conffiles Apr 03 15:37:15 easier than the old nvram Apr 03 15:38:04 well, biggest issue with nvram is if you corrupt it Apr 03 15:40:04 ou, how do you manage to do that? Apr 03 15:41:09 well, there are some routers that use the same nvram to store bootloader stuff Apr 03 15:41:19 broadcom CFE I think Apr 03 15:41:28 if you mess those up, you get a brick Apr 03 15:41:36 aa Apr 03 16:22:31 any of you run meego on real ARM device that w/ hw 3d ? Apr 03 16:22:39 ping me for a test Apr 03 16:25:58 bbl Apr 03 16:41:19 I hate it when I'm on a website, click a link to find out more detail / go to the shop and it takes me to the US website Apr 03 16:46:11 I hate it when I type in the address of a US website and it redirects me to my local edition Apr 03 16:49:49 I don't like it cos I'm trying to find out the price of something Apr 03 16:50:12 I mean with Adobe you can change the dollar sign to a pound sign and be very close to the actual price Apr 03 16:51:36 your taxes at work :) Apr 03 18:41:39 Anyone got anything interesting for http://www.mwkn.net/ this week? Apr 03 19:17:02 back Apr 03 19:17:22 any meego ARM users around ? Apr 03 19:17:30 front and no Apr 03 19:50:11 does anyone in OBS world have a solution to this unique problem? I am building a package on OBS, and, THIS is happening: Apr 03 19:50:15 config.status: executing depfiles commands Apr 03 19:50:17 + %make Apr 03 19:50:19 /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.WV9Z1e: line 56: fg: no job control Apr 03 19:50:21 error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.WV9Z1e (%build) Apr 03 19:50:27 i'm stumped. Apr 03 19:52:04 oh nm Apr 03 19:52:10 it's a damned undefined macro Apr 03 19:54:14 * CosmoHill bounces off walls when he sees the price of a car he wants Apr 03 19:54:32 that cheap eh ? Apr 03 19:55:12 £4500 Apr 03 19:55:38 that's very reasonable for a Rolls Apr 03 19:55:54 Lancia Delta :D Apr 03 19:56:18 those fiit in the trunk of a Rolls, right ? Apr 03 19:56:32 shame people think that if you WRITE EVERYTHING IN CAPITALS people will read it Apr 03 20:09:49 CosmoHill, classic Delta or a new one? Apr 03 20:09:55 I'd die for an Evo III Apr 03 20:10:06 Can't get them here for less thank $35k, though. Apr 03 20:10:17 Evo II was the last sold in the UK Apr 03 20:10:41 £8000 for INTEGRALE 16V Apr 03 20:11:31 there's a HF Turbo IE for £5000 wish wikipedia says doesn't exist Apr 03 20:15:39 Hehe Apr 03 20:15:49 That is a gorgeous car Apr 03 20:16:26 I'd love to get an E30 M3. Apr 03 20:16:39 Actually have those in the US, so they're affordable. Apr 03 20:21:17 I'd be very interested to see how euro spec cars compare to us spec Apr 03 20:21:35 I hear your handbrakes are useless Apr 03 20:23:57 there's a 2.0L 4WD from 1989 that looks like a shed Apr 03 20:28:59 Depends on which car. Apr 03 20:29:14 Sometimes the idiotic California regulations get in the way Apr 03 20:29:46 The US-spec E36 M3 is only rated for 300hp (as opposed to 330) due to the EPA. Apr 03 20:30:33 http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201106379367431/sort/priceasc/usedcars/make/lancia/quicksearch/true/page/1/postcode/cm26sg/radius/1501?logcode=p Apr 03 20:32:44 CA-spec Camry's from a few years ago had 7 fewer hp than the rest of the world. Apr 03 20:32:55 it does seem weird looking at cars that are older than mine or have more mileage Apr 03 20:45:06 * CosmoHill offers GAN900 a cheese toasty Apr 03 21:39:15 * CosmoHill wonders how accurate the family guy "To Love and Die in Dixie" episode is Apr 03 21:41:52 * timeless_w7ip frowns Apr 03 21:41:58 anyone from meego it here/awake? Apr 03 21:42:25 I'm not to sure I count Apr 03 21:42:53 mxr.meego.com seems down Apr 03 21:43:01 i'm wondering if it's a more systemic problem Apr 03 21:43:32 has a bug been submitted Apr 03 21:44:03 i'm wondering that Apr 03 21:44:44 just mxr.meego.com, not repo.. or bugs... or any others from here Apr 03 21:45:26 CosmoHill: not even vaguely. Apr 03 21:45:44 CosmoHill: Family Guy shouldn't be taken as an accurate anything. Apr 03 21:46:05 Well, except, perhaps, an accurate portrayal of how New England Democrats thing. Apr 03 21:46:19 you mean Adam West? Apr 03 21:46:44 anyone remember where such it bugs belong? Apr 03 21:47:08 I mean Seth MacFarlane and the rest of the writers are all raving statists. ;) Apr 03 21:47:16 s/thing/think/ Apr 03 21:47:32 I saw the 100th episode special where it had actual people in it Apr 03 21:47:46 seems like a right bell end Apr 03 21:47:47 timeless_w7ip: other than where the link says ? http://bugs.meego.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=MeeGo%20Community%20Infrastructure Apr 03 21:49:01 berndhs: filing a bug against myself doesn't do me much good :) Apr 03 21:49:35 i dont know what the issue is, says 502 from here Apr 03 21:50:14 the server isn't reachable internally Apr 03 21:50:50 bad address, bad router, typo in some script,... Apr 03 21:51:24 last time I looked at MXR it told me about the benefits of Internet Explorer 8 Apr 03 21:51:35 cosmohill: eh?! Apr 03 21:51:57 someone with DNS access wasn't happy about the MS and Nokia deal Apr 03 21:52:28 oh Apr 03 21:52:29 Wee, guess I wont be sitting in on any live TSG meetings for a while. Apr 03 21:52:38 you haven't used mxr in a while Apr 03 21:52:48 it's been running @osu hosting for over a month i think Apr 03 21:53:04 http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:7pTSTq_2AAwJ:mxr.meego.com/+site:mxr.meego.com&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.com Apr 03 21:53:27 you can more or less browse everything via google :) Apr 03 21:56:11 do you guys remember the picture of my phone with the top row of keys missing Apr 03 22:18:45 Error: For non-Fedora and non-MeeGo systems, run mode must be 1 Apr 03 22:18:51 any idea why mic2 does not like --run-mode=0 anymore? Apr 03 22:38:20 timeless_w7ip: mxr is back ... it had a config file change that clearly hadn't been reboot-tested ... no network. Apr 03 22:54:07 * CosmoHill notices that he's slowly migrating from mac to windows Apr 03 22:58:06 CosmoHill: I thought you were a linux guy Apr 03 22:59:10 at least you got my gender right Apr 03 22:59:18 someone thought I was a lesbian yesterday Apr 03 22:59:52 windows user..... close Apr 03 23:00:14 one of the ops in LFS works for MS Apr 03 23:01:55 What is stopping my N97 mini from running MeeGo? Apr 03 23:02:02 reality Apr 03 23:02:29 (lack of) developers Apr 03 23:02:42 i'd go with lbt's answer Apr 03 23:02:51 More specifically, your bootloader. Apr 03 23:03:05 developers not being part of reality? Apr 03 23:03:06 Besides the fact that it doesn't have a GPU, does it? Apr 03 23:03:23 if it does, it's very very weak Apr 03 23:03:25 I don't remember Apr 03 23:04:08 It's a 434MHz ARM11, I doubt it. Apr 03 23:05:24 yikes Apr 03 23:05:29 and yeah, memory is paltry too Apr 03 23:05:42 so there's your answer, besides the bootloader and everything else Apr 03 23:06:56 Hmm Apr 03 23:07:02 Symbian is no fun Apr 03 23:07:26 And Maemo on the N900 is all I want really... Even know Meego probaby seamlessly works Apr 03 23:15:28 Ahh, it can import contacts Apr 03 23:15:34 Can other Nokia phones do this? Apr 03 23:16:15 aren't you bored yet? Apr 03 23:22:07 Bored with? Apr 03 23:22:19 I managed to import contacts, I got 53 Apr 03 23:22:26 Most of them empty contacts Apr 03 23:25:20 I am in the wrong channel Apr 03 23:25:48 which explains why you sound like a troll :) Apr 03 23:25:54 sorry then. Apr 03 23:26:28 lbt: I am sorry, I thougth I was in #maemo. It is usually accepted to ask N900 questions there. Apr 03 23:27:10 .... it's late I'm grumpy .... good luck getting it sorted Apr 03 23:28:40 symbian can import contacts... but not from n900 Apr 03 23:29:30 ali1234: N900 can export them, but I just got a bunch of IM contacts, some empty ones, and a few that worked Apr 03 23:29:42 actually nearly all phones can do it using bluetooth pim sync which is what symbian does Apr 03 23:30:05 but n900 doesn't support this Apr 03 23:30:19 at least it didn't when i first got the n900, which was a long time ago Apr 03 23:30:49 but hey, when it's brand new is when you need it right? no point adding contact sync 6 months after everyone already did it manually... Apr 03 23:31:55 I am planning on getting by with my phone needs with a N97 Mini and a Nokia N900. Apr 03 23:36:27 my neighbors are within 1/4 mile, if I yell real loud my basic phone needs are met Apr 03 23:37:08 who talks to their neighbours theses days Apr 03 23:37:25 well, in emergencies one might Apr 03 23:37:59 hehe Apr 03 23:38:08 bad time to find out that they don't like you **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Apr 03 23:55:21 2011 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 04 15:14:14 2011 Apr 04 15:14:21 gabrbedd: yeah, worked fine for me after I changed 3 things Apr 04 15:14:47 1 and 2 being the lock realted changes needed and 3 being the license Apr 04 15:15:17 I was disappointed in the lack of progression of the netbook ux then and didn't keep it around Apr 04 15:16:04 slaine: Yeah, 1.1.90 has been rough all around IMHO. Apr 04 15:16:33 BTW, I have the "GPL Lie" patch in my own private wl-mod package, too. Apr 04 15:17:45 2.6.38 seems to have better b43 modules and firmware support, assuming F15 Alpha is using that and it wasn't something I did noodling around (like copying on firmwares) Apr 04 15:18:56 Ironically, I was one of the few that got an ideapad with the Atheros WiFi Apr 04 15:20:57 slaine: thank you! Apr 04 15:22:13 gabrbedd: is the GPL Lie patch still needed in the latest 1.1.9x builds ? Apr 04 15:24:49 slaine: I dunno, I use a custom kernel and started doing more work on a different device. So I'm not sure how the main meego kernel is configured ATM. Apr 04 15:25:08 I'll give it a blast later in the week Apr 04 15:25:25 see if I can get a 1.2 page up and ready for the release Apr 04 15:25:34 I'd rather not have to detail lying to the kernel Apr 04 15:30:34 slaine: Please _don't_ detail lying to the kernel. :-) I've taken the same policy... only vaguely hinting in public that it has to be done, but now how. Apr 04 15:30:47 :nod: Apr 04 15:31:04 slaine: However, I think when the 1.2 kernel goes stable, they usually remove lockdep RCU Apr 04 15:31:13 At least, that's what they've done in the past. Apr 04 15:31:31 It should be stable now. I'll find out soon I guess :) Apr 04 15:31:41 :-) Apr 04 15:47:36 dneary: Has the TSG lineup changed ? Apr 04 15:47:52 Or DawnFoster for that matter ? Apr 04 15:48:04 Not has DawnFoster changed, lol Apr 04 15:50:28 lorp: yes - as long as it's open source it's fine Apr 04 15:50:57 dneary: sat pm is good Apr 04 15:51:50 slaine: At last TSG meeting the issue was skirted, but seemed to be affirmative that Imad was it and that Nokia would be nominating a replacement for Valhalla Apr 04 15:52:21 lbt: thanks. When will my account be ready to use the OBS? Apr 04 15:52:36 looks like it was already there Apr 04 15:53:33 really? I tried to login on build.pub.meego.com but I got a login failure Apr 04 15:54:28 is the OBS password the same as the meego.com one? Apr 04 15:59:53 lbt: tried again, I can login on meego.com but I can't on build.pub.meego.com Apr 04 16:00:15 ok ... sec Apr 04 16:00:53 try now Apr 04 16:02:04 lorp: ? Apr 04 16:03:33 lorp... Apr 04 16:03:51 I'm kinda busy .... Apr 04 16:08:02 sorry, tried again, but it still doesn't work Apr 04 16:08:51 I am using the same username/password as for meego.com Apr 04 16:25:45 lorp: when did you last change your meego.com passwd Apr 04 16:40:34 today, I forgot the old one.... Apr 04 16:43:01 ok looks like pw sync broke Apr 04 16:54:09 I just hate this rpm .spec files, still havent seen a good tutorial for meego, life was so much easier in debian world. Apr 04 16:54:49 i like rpm , cuz i was in fedora/centos world all my life Apr 04 16:55:00 i converted from debian using spectacle, nowadays i actually prefer yaml + spec Apr 04 16:57:37 rainisto: they both look a complete mess compared to ebuild format :) Apr 04 16:59:04 well Im trying to figure out easy way to make rpm package out of my qtquick project, and just banging head to the wall Apr 04 16:59:06 rainisto: spec is easy to write and impossible to read :) Apr 04 16:59:17 rainisto: I converted from deb to rpm for MeeGo, and now I prefer RPM. Feature #1 -- no .diff.gz BS. Apr 04 16:59:21 patching is built in. Apr 04 16:59:36 anything goes and you can throw shell in there if you feel like it Apr 04 17:00:04 it's kinda like perl.... the only thing that can parse .spec is .... Apr 04 17:00:31 well yes, it has good features, but working .spec file is pain to write, ie everything works fine in qt creator, qmake; make and I can run the binary, but now that Im trying to make .spec and .rpm it just fails :) Apr 04 17:00:57 rainisto: And the error message is.... ?? Apr 04 17:00:57 Stskeeps: one thing I'd like about yaml is that it's parsable..... but of course that's optional Apr 04 17:01:26 lbt: when do you think I can use the OBS system with my new password? Apr 04 17:01:46 lorpol: writing a new import now Apr 04 17:01:49 lorpol: When your old password stops working is my guess. Apr 04 17:02:00 :-) Apr 04 17:02:24 ie tar.gz and create .spec and then trying to locally build with sudo build and ends up in failure after failure Apr 04 17:02:33 ok thanks Apr 04 17:03:11 gabrdedd, well if unpacks .tar.gz in wrong places etc and fails :) Apr 04 17:03:51 rainisto: When you unpack the tar... what's the folder name that the tarfile gives? Apr 04 17:04:14 rpmbuild is expecting it to be ${name}-${version}/ Apr 04 17:05:04 If it's different, then you have to override what the build folder name is. Apr 04 17:05:23 ah, that might be the reason then Apr 04 17:08:38 sudo build? Apr 04 17:08:58 you shouldn't be doing that Apr 04 17:09:07 lbt: eh. one thing at a time. :-) Apr 04 17:09:11 mmm Apr 04 17:09:16 that's the first thing :) Apr 04 17:10:08 * lbt things developers should have their paycheques routed through their code somehow... Apr 04 17:10:19 s/g/k/ Apr 04 17:10:20 lbt meant: that's the first think :) Apr 04 17:10:35 no, not really infobot Apr 04 17:10:35 infobot++ Apr 04 17:10:37 hahaha :-) Apr 04 17:12:15 lbt: well http://wiki.meego.com/SDK/Docs/1.0/Packaging/Tutorial is saying sudo build in instructions :) Apr 04 17:12:51 yeah ... isn't SDK by/for windows users .... ? Apr 04 17:13:03 but thanks... that is, IMHO, a bug Apr 04 17:14:09 gabrbedd: am I right here? sudo build is just wrong? Apr 04 17:14:10 lbt: rainisto I can't be sure... but I think that has to do with building packages in a clean chroot. Apr 04 17:14:22 does build == rpmbuild ?? Apr 04 17:14:31 * gabrbedd never used `build` Apr 04 17:14:50 build is the script used by the obs... I thought it was rpmbuild Apr 04 17:15:03 * lbt will double check Apr 04 17:15:44 i dunno... anyway, rainisto -- what you want to do is put your sources in ~/rpmbuild/SOURCES and your specs in ~/rpmbuild/SPECS Apr 04 17:16:02 rainisto: Then `rpmbuild -ba ~/rpmbuild/SPECS/myfoo.spec` Apr 04 17:16:10 No need to sudo or root or anything. Apr 04 17:16:16 No need for fakeroot, either. Apr 04 17:16:17 vgrade: dunno if you saw, but i posted a link to my archos9 tablet ks Apr 04 17:16:34 sudo build --repository http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.1.90.8.20110322.2/repos/oss/ia32/packages/ --arch i686 foobar.spec was what I was using to build outside chroot or obs, now it upacks and run qmake make just fine Apr 04 17:16:51 mmm I think I'm wrong .... if that's the OBS build then it invokes su - abuild Apr 04 17:18:05 and it needs root to make chroots (and more).... I didn't realise it was supposed to be invoked as part of a normal workflow. Apr 04 17:18:32 lbt: FWIW, when I'm working in my chroot, I have to build packages as root also. Apr 04 17:19:03 but inside a device or a virtual environment (e.g. qemu) you can build as a normal user. Apr 04 17:19:18 gabrdedd: rpmbuild just fails, I think that I need that sudo build, since buildmachine is x64, and Im targeting ia32, Apr 04 17:20:06 rainisto: I guess go ahead and do the `sudo build` -- I just don't know what it is. Apr 04 17:20:52 anyways sudo build almost succeeds, if fails on make install with mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/share': Permission denied Apr 04 17:21:24 rpmbuild should not be installing anything outside of RPM_BUILD_ROOT Apr 04 17:21:34 DESTDIR ? Apr 04 17:22:51 rainisto: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=openmpi.spec&package=openmpi&project=home%3Acosmo&srcmd5=9081d8cbcd9e125c09f96fcb0450ba98 Apr 04 17:22:58 this is my rpm that builds :) Apr 04 17:23:40 rainisto: Your `make install` target needs to support the DESTDIR and PREFIX conventions. Apr 04 17:23:59 this is the main reason for not using sudo Apr 04 17:24:17 rpmbuild ends up installing directly onto your hard drive instead of making a package Apr 04 17:38:50 ah, qmake honors INSTALL_ROOT, now sudo build almost succeeds, make install etc, now only getting Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found:, But if I remember right that can be turned out in spec file somehow Apr 04 17:38:57 atleast should be trivial to clean Apr 04 17:42:58