**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 26 02:59:57 2011 Apr 26 05:00:42 whoa, trunk builds numbered 1.2.0.0... ;) Apr 26 05:10:49 yeah. Looks like pushing the release date forward didn't play well with the version numbering Apr 26 06:55:38 yay new image Apr 26 07:01:30 bye Apr 26 07:48:10 <_|Nix|_> Hey! I'm trying to install mic2 according to http://wiki.meego.com/Image_Creation#Installation and I get Error: Package: python-zypp-0.5.8-1.3.i386 (meego-tools) Requires: libzypp.so.807 Apr 26 07:48:15 <_|Nix|_> How do I fix this? Apr 26 07:50:00 <_|Nix|_> This is running on a fresh install of Fedora 14 ... Apr 26 07:51:42 _|Nix|_: hi, try googling for "Requires: libzypp.so.807" Apr 26 07:52:15 ...during the first quarter, developer interest in Android phones dropped two percentage points to 85 per cent, while interest in Android tablets fell three points to 71 per cent. Apr 26 07:53:27 <_|Nix|_> tomeu: Got it. It tells me to also set up the fedora 13 repo ... that's kinda dumb though ... why isn't this being carried forward to F14? Apr 26 07:53:48 iPhone: 91%, iPad: 86%, WP7: 29%, BB: 7.27%, PlayBook: 20%, WebOS: 17% Apr 26 07:53:56 no idea, I haven't done much with meego on fedora itself Apr 26 07:55:12 is there a reason when i run meego tablet sdk installer on fedora14 i get this error Apr 26 07:55:18 "/media/Drive/MeeGoSDK/tm/create_target.sh meego-handset-ia32-w32-1.1" Apr 26 07:55:27 Execution failed (Unexpected exit code: 1): Apr 26 07:57:15 hmm looks like my cache is fucked up Apr 26 07:57:23 ill get rid of everything and dl again Apr 26 08:10:56 X-Fade: can we do some Apps process soon Apr 26 08:11:41 lbt: Sure, that is my prio for today. Apr 26 08:49:41 good morning meego \o Apr 26 08:51:43 when is the meego1.2 sdk release scheduled for? Apr 26 08:54:54 bkalinga, ask in the #meego-sdk channel might be best Apr 26 08:55:03 ok Apr 26 08:55:39 hi there... for meego opengl, i get the error : LibEGL warning: DRI2 failed to authenticate. what am i doing wrong? Apr 26 08:56:12 does anybody know the process that daily testing images end up with a changelog? Sage / timoph perhaps? relating to bug 16609 on the n900-de Apr 26 08:56:12 arm or x86? Apr 26 08:56:15 Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16609 nor, Undecided, ---, liquid, NEW, [N900 DE] Daily testing server does not include changelog Apr 26 08:56:24 x86 Apr 26 08:58:45 lcuk: those changelog entries should be added to the script I'm using to build the de images. Apr 26 09:00:18 lcuk: that is completely different from the meego.com release things though. Apr 26 09:01:36 Sage, ahhh fair enough, where abouts are these scripts being worked on? Apr 26 09:02:37 and yes, I know it is different to the meego release, I had just grown used to reviewing the daily testing changelogs and it was noticable that the -de did not include them Apr 26 09:03:38 how are you this morning Stskeeps? still in the mountains? Apr 26 09:11:15 the new fish we got from the funfair yesterday are happy in the tank :) Apr 26 09:36:08 lcuk: that mess is available at https://gitorious.org/image-building-tools/daily-image-builder/ :) Apr 26 09:37:57 does the window manager on meego use opengl? Apr 26 09:41:34 thanks Sage Apr 26 09:42:18 I have updated the bug report \o Apr 26 09:43:01 btw sage, the code being a mess is normal for most codebases ;) Apr 26 09:44:58 can I create a valid target with meego-core-ia32-madde-sysroot-1.1.99.3.20110419.9-fs.tar.bz2 and meego-handset-ia32-qemu-1.1.99.3.20110419.9-raw.tar.bz2 taking from http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk for qemu? Apr 26 09:45:01 lcuk: well, that code was used for other image creation process earlier and just used it as a base for the de stuff as well. Which is what I meant with the mess. But it does currently what we want it to do so doesn't matter so much. Apr 26 09:45:26 lcuk: I'm hoping that the meego release process scripts would be published somewhere but haven't seen them yet. Apr 26 09:45:26 yeah sage :) Apr 26 09:46:10 I think there are a number of scripts not yet fully documented Apr 26 09:46:11 lcuk: That my script was ment to be only temp until the real thing comes... ;) Apr 26 09:46:30 patches welcome if you want to hack around :) Apr 26 09:47:12 yes, once I start the dd copying I have some admin to sort out and I will take a look later Apr 26 10:33:54 hi all Apr 26 10:42:22 Hi All i am new to OBS Apr 26 10:42:47 i started registering as a new user in https://build.meego.com/ Apr 26 10:43:13 but there, its reported the error Apr 26 10:43:14 Errorcode: unknown Apr 26 10:43:14 Message:

User registration is disabled bkalinga: what do you want to do with obs? Apr 26 10:46:31 i want to compile few examples given inside libmeegotouch Apr 26 10:51:55 well, first of all, you don't get access to it automatically Apr 26 10:54:00 bkalinga: then you want build.pub.meego.com Apr 26 10:54:09 notice the 'pub' as in public part Apr 26 10:54:20 that's also known as the community obs Apr 26 10:54:33 ok Apr 26 10:55:02 is it possible to install virtualbox guest additions to tablet ux preview to get OpenGL working Apr 26 10:55:03 https://build.pub.meego.com/user/register_user has helpful info Apr 26 10:55:29 TheLegace: I tried that a while ago with a netbook image and it failed in craptastic ways Apr 26 10:55:37 so build.meego.com is basically for those who develop meego core related stuff Apr 26 10:55:39 * dm8tbr should try again Apr 26 10:55:44 bkalinga: correct Apr 26 10:55:53 well im looking at the 1.0 wiki page Apr 26 10:55:55 ok thanks dm8tbr: Apr 26 10:56:02 cant seem to get into grub Apr 26 10:56:11 even though im pressing ESC like a million times Apr 26 10:56:28 oh there we go Apr 26 10:56:30 timing is very short Apr 26 10:56:32 TheLegace: it doesn't use grub Apr 26 10:56:38 oh ya? Apr 26 10:56:54 last time I checked it was some other loader. syslinux? Apr 26 10:57:05 and yes, timing is not easy Apr 26 10:59:30 Hi lbt/david/X-fade/niels i want to access community OBS Apr 26 11:00:11 did you read https://build.pub.meego.com/user/register_user ? .... it explains what you need to tell us :) Apr 26 11:00:22 whats the editor on sh ? Apr 26 11:00:25 vi/vim doesnt work Apr 26 11:01:03 dm8tbr: exoPC ??? uses EFI Apr 26 11:01:03 yes, i need it for opensource application development Apr 26 11:01:13 and my id is "kalinga" Apr 26 11:01:22 lbt: yes Apr 26 11:01:22 aha! Apr 26 11:01:40 done bkalinga Apr 26 11:01:54 thanks lbt Apr 26 11:02:01 dm8tbr: the Joggler page is likely to be useful - same thing Apr 26 11:02:13 my ExoPC just refuses to boot anymore... Apr 26 11:02:31 lbt: Viltapi had some problems with charging Apr 26 11:02:36 that was quick you bricked it Apr 26 11:02:37 no diagnostics... just a jagged meeo logo Apr 26 11:03:13 Stskeeps: yah... apparently leaving it turned on and unplugged is dangerous ;) Apr 26 11:03:32 I guess the battery died and it just went poof Apr 26 11:03:51 lbt: it uses btrfs, maybe that crapped on itself. I think there's no fsck for that yet Apr 26 11:04:40 dm8tbr: I have no clue - not tried to fix it yet Apr 26 11:05:07 * lbt is not allowing himself any hacking time until he has some Apps/DE processes working Apr 26 11:05:09 recovering by writing a current weekly image to a usb stick is surprisingly easy Apr 26 11:05:22 dm8tbr: on ExoPC page? Apr 26 11:05:56 nope Apr 26 11:06:25 dunno if it's there by now. it boils down to wget $image; dd if=image of=/dev/rawusbstick; unplug, plugi into upper port, boot Apr 26 11:20:07 morning Apr 26 11:33:10 lbt: hello Tango Master ;) Apr 26 11:33:30 hey :D Apr 26 11:34:02 lbt: ehe, good one eh? Apr 26 11:34:16 yup - lots of fun Apr 26 11:34:44 * lbt is considering a BoF session at SF ... Apr 26 11:34:46 lbt: quick question: are you aware of the issues with hotel reservation on https://www.eiseverywhere.com/ereg/hotel.php? Apr 26 11:34:58 no... looking Apr 26 11:35:08 for instance it spits out errors when using Diner's Club? Apr 26 11:35:37 send any problems to meego-events@ asap ideally Apr 26 11:35:55 do you know who should bw contacted? Moreover, it's not yet possible to reserve before/after the event itself :( Apr 26 11:36:03 *nod* ... and we'll keep an eye out for mrshaver Apr 26 11:36:10 Stskeeps: thanks! Apr 26 11:37:46 amy is very good at following up at those issues, so Apr 26 11:45:24 Stskeeps: ok, thanks for advising, I sent a mail to the list about my issues... Apr 26 11:46:55 lbt: BoF session on: "Bugzilla participant(s) or how making productization really happen in a simple and elgant way" 8-) Apr 26 11:47:06 elegant Apr 26 11:47:13 err, no..... Tango Apr 26 11:47:20 *g* Apr 26 11:47:33 lol Apr 26 11:47:43 http://sf2011.meego.com/program/sessions/so-you-want-build-meego-based-product-vendor-tools-and-vendor-ecosystem Apr 26 11:48:09 lbt: yes, I was only trying to tease... Apr 26 11:48:24 tease moi Apr 26 11:49:57 lbt: though BoF on the topic (participants) would be nice - probably a good way to broaden initial scope and get "real life" examples/requests. Apr 26 11:51:16 yes... if we get something up in time for both Apps and DE I'll propose a late-breaking BoF on "automation in detail" or something Apr 26 12:03:26 lbt: sounds good :) Let's sync-up then with Steve so we can demo at least on the DE bugs... Apr 26 12:03:45 happy to see this moving fwd ;) Apr 26 12:04:02 FYI .... #meego-boss has events coming out Apr 26 12:08:57 * lcuk joins #meego-boss Apr 26 13:39:56 phaeron: so... what does already_testing do Apr 26 13:40:16 mmm what is it for is better Apr 26 13:41:58 the explanation is not clear ? Apr 26 13:42:47 the use case Apr 26 13:42:58 I'm suspecting it should be fed a param Apr 26 13:43:20 I am not getting you Apr 26 13:43:30 eg check_if_already_tested :in => DE:Trunk:Testing Apr 26 13:44:37 it used to be : set 'test_project' => '${project}:Testing' Apr 26 13:44:52 in the beginning of the process Apr 26 13:45:17 because eventually we would creating :Testing dynamically Apr 26 13:45:29 *nod* ... I like the idea of having a param Apr 26 13:45:51 but it can try the variable too Apr 26 13:45:52 so it would become set 'test_project' => '${project}:Testing:${rid}' Apr 26 13:46:00 *nod* Apr 26 13:46:28 and we can take some namespace in fields for standard workflo Apr 26 13:46:30 w Apr 26 13:46:49 I guess it depends on thinking about the process as a whole not as a program Apr 26 13:47:21 set these at the top and you're good to go , as opposed to call this participant with these parameters like a function Apr 26 13:50:49 sec - call Apr 26 13:56:53 lbt: Ok, notification for ACCEPTED and DENIED SR works. I guess that now we need some actual checking. Apr 26 13:58:58 anyone know why enca got commited as libenca in MeeGo trunk? Apr 26 13:59:31 search meego-commits? Apr 26 13:59:57 is there a search in the archives? Apr 26 14:00:18 google seems to troll there :-) Apr 26 14:00:19 X-Fade: http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Infrastructure/BOSS/Participants Apr 26 14:00:44 well that was informative... http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-commits/2010-October/007632.html Apr 26 14:02:11 phaeron: back now Apr 26 14:02:19 lcuk: not yet :) Apr 26 14:03:48 phaeron: ok if the data is used many times in the process ... but setting test_project at the top and then only needing it once ... it's harder to know which process step relies on it Apr 26 14:04:44 it's not difficult to imaging lots of places needing it. for example later , obsticket and check_request and resolve_request etc .. Apr 26 14:04:57 OK Apr 26 14:05:05 *imagine Apr 26 14:05:31 so the doc on that page needs to note that it relies on the test_project variable in the process def Apr 26 14:05:50 so,.. target_repo Apr 26 14:06:00 yes WID Apr 26 14:06:20 nb... the docs should say 'why' you'd use a participant as well as what it does Apr 26 14:07:44 so does that take a param? or does it look in the target project? Apr 26 14:08:52 process variable Apr 26 14:09:18 isn't the why obvious from the what Apr 26 14:10:00 no Apr 26 14:10:06 honestly it's not Apr 26 14:11:11 so more writing Apr 26 14:11:37 hold on Apr 26 14:11:44 I've been editing the page Apr 26 14:11:52 let me merge in my changes Apr 26 14:11:55 ok Apr 26 14:18:27 http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Infrastructure/BOSS/Participants Apr 26 14:19:08 as usual I don't agree :P Apr 26 14:21:01 it doesn't reject , it sets failed , something else is responsible for rejecting Apr 26 14:26:53 mmm true Apr 26 14:28:18 s/reject/check/ still works Apr 26 14:29:02 so I will edit ? Apr 26 14:29:07 yep Apr 26 14:34:42 check now , thinking the _if_ is redundant Apr 26 14:36:15 * CosmoHill has about 3000 words to go >.< Apr 26 14:40:30 lbt: check now , thinking the _if_ is redundant Apr 26 15:00:24 lbt, there is a lot of chatter on the meego-boss channel Apr 26 15:01:56 yep Apr 26 16:02:50 Does anyone know if the sponsorships have all been sent out? Apr 26 16:29:00 * CosmoHill has to use his nail to open and close the lens shutter cos the slider came off Apr 26 19:06:09 hey… here we build an OS based on meego, and we have our own customized garage and repositories… what should i know to make our distribution meego compliance? Apr 26 19:07:19 http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Compliance Apr 26 19:09:59 ~compliance Apr 26 19:10:07 whut, where's our bot? Apr 26 19:10:15 Easter vacation Apr 26 19:10:22 !compliance Apr 26 19:10:35 lbt: compliance? Apr 26 19:10:39 :D Apr 26 19:10:54 ask mwichmann Apr 26 19:11:03 indeed Apr 26 19:11:05 http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Compliance Apr 26 19:11:09 infobot, compliance is http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Compliance Apr 26 19:11:09 okay, Stskeeps Apr 26 19:11:11 MeeGoBot: compliance is http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Compliance Apr 26 19:11:12 auke: But compliance is 'a weapon to wield for $bigcorp against $othercorp for $competitive_advantage'... Apr 26 19:11:13 compliance? Apr 26 19:11:14 lawl Apr 26 19:11:19 boss get 'em Apr 26 19:11:27 MeeGoBot: forget compliance Apr 26 19:11:29 auke: I've forgotten what I knew about 'compliance'. Apr 26 19:11:34 MeeGoBot: compliance is http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Compliance Apr 26 19:11:36 auke: ok Apr 26 19:11:43 hi boss Apr 26 19:11:46 hi boss` Apr 26 19:11:53 boss: hello Apr 26 19:12:04 boss` is pretty dim Apr 26 19:12:04 lbt: Error: "is" is not a valid command. Apr 26 19:12:19 he only says things ... mainly on #meego-boss :) Apr 26 19:36:39 Hi lbt Apr 26 19:40:00 kaitlin_: ping Apr 26 19:52:18 looks like I missed lots of fun Apr 26 19:52:29 not really Apr 26 19:52:34 * mwichmann doesn't care for the term "compliance" either, it's used in too many other contexts Apr 26 19:53:18 complying with licenses, complying with accounting standards, etc. Apr 26 19:53:21 oh, well Apr 26 19:53:47 fiferboy: hey .... Apr 26 19:54:29 luist: run that checker from the page already mentioned too many times for me to repeat :) Apr 26 20:07:54 lbt: How are things going? It's been a while Apr 26 20:08:46 not too bad - BOSS is kicking off quite nicely Apr 26 20:09:04 lots of uncertainty with Nokia still Apr 26 20:18:55 Yeah. You have a talk at the conference? Apr 26 20:19:09 *nod* Apr 26 20:19:34 are you coming ? Apr 26 20:19:43 Doesn't look like it :( Apr 26 20:20:50 aw Apr 26 20:21:51 I was hoping Apr 26 20:34:11 hey fiferboy \o did you ever port your (bird|*)watching app to meego? Apr 26 20:36:19 lcuk: Sure did! Apr 26 20:36:26 o_O Apr 26 20:36:36 and did you put it on the obs too? Apr 26 20:36:37 Still a bird watching app, though. Never made it more generic Apr 26 20:36:48 * lcuk having a bit of mental floss tonight Apr 26 20:36:52 Yup, it is in OBS with my dictionary app Apr 26 20:37:43 we really need to make these things more visible, is that available for handset or netbook ux? Apr 26 20:37:52 Works on both Apr 26 20:38:01 yeah but how would someone install it? Apr 26 20:38:20 They'd have to install my repo Apr 26 20:38:38 That's where it falls down - I never figured out the path to "extras" or "garage" or whatever it is Apr 26 20:38:43 do you have a magic zypp command line handy? Apr 26 20:39:02 fiferboy: WAA Apr 26 20:39:08 you have a PPA ... Apr 26 20:39:28 this is kinda how it's supposed to work Apr 26 20:39:36 lbt, such complex things :P is there a session at the conf to explain it? Apr 26 20:39:40 but X-Fade is looking for apps to go in Apps Apr 26 20:39:52 lcuk: sadly that one didn't get approved Apr 26 20:40:10 My ppa is home:fiferboy I think? Apr 26 20:40:11 http://sf2011.meego.com/program/sessions/whats-point-community-obs Apr 26 20:40:17 how are the rest of things doing? Apr 26 20:40:43 * auke will do a talk about systemd, together with the systemd author Apr 26 20:40:59 lcuk: I think - wget http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/fiferboy/meego_1.1_core/home%3afiferboy.repo Apr 26 20:40:59 auke: can we bring tomatoes? Apr 26 20:41:38 It is availabe for x86 and arm Apr 26 20:41:38 fiferboy, there is a zypp command to add repo, "zypper --ar [url]" I think Apr 26 20:41:47 lbt: only if properly dressed with balsamic vineger, basil leaves and fresh imported italian mozarella, and served properly (not thrown) Apr 26 20:41:50 lcuk: Even better! Apr 26 20:42:04 tossed? Apr 26 20:42:12 *g* Apr 26 20:42:14 one does not toss a caprese salad Apr 26 20:42:31 lcuk, no --, just ar Apr 26 20:42:43 I'm looking forward to systemd Apr 26 20:42:44 * lcuk makes salad of various types with lots of yummy ingredients Apr 26 20:42:49 but it's easiest to just drop the .repo file in /etc/zypper/repo.d Apr 26 20:42:52 arfoll, you are a dude \o thanks Apr 26 20:43:07 lbt: it's shaping up well: netbook + tablet are already booting with it Apr 26 20:43:10 sounds interesting - especially the waiting on sockets parts Apr 26 20:43:40 kinda interested to see how to hack on it for "adding stuff to rc.d" Apr 26 20:44:33 rc.d will not be allowed Apr 26 20:44:50 you'll need to write systemd service files now Apr 26 20:44:56 (which is easy) Apr 26 20:45:14 I think that should probably be the first bullet point "you can still (conceptually) add stuff to init.d/ .... here's how" Apr 26 20:45:21 auke, so 1.3 packages are going to be incompatible completely? Apr 26 20:45:37 then we can all stop worrying Apr 26 20:45:40 arfoll: what exactly do you mean by that? Apr 26 20:45:51 auke: everytime I upgrade systemd I have to spend an hour trying to make things work :D Apr 26 20:46:13 auke, i make a package and i want to target meego 1.1 devices and 1.3. i need two different packages then, or do a check wether systemd is installed Apr 26 20:46:29 arfoll: sounds reasonable Apr 26 20:46:32 lbt: it will more be like "we will not add compatibility for rc.d stuff until after 1.3 development is done, so if you want your shit merged you better rewrite it to use systemd files first" Apr 26 20:47:06 phaeron: explain to me how you upgrade from meego 1.1 to 1.2 right now, and whether this is supported. Apr 26 20:47:08 auke: sure - but that's addressed to meego devs - they just have to suck it up Apr 26 20:47:13 there's no way to say this without sounding rude, although I don't intend it that way: Apr 26 20:47:14 i hope it's worth it ;-) Apr 26 20:47:36 I've heard Lennart talk, and he quicly devolves into incomprehensible Apr 26 20:47:36 I'm more thinking about getting random hackers to be happy-ish Apr 26 20:48:00 can we, umm, either rein him in, or have auke do all the talking? Apr 26 20:48:03 :) Apr 26 20:48:03 users/OSV's etc will be able to muck up their beatiful setup with init.d scripts Apr 26 20:48:10 \o/ Apr 26 20:48:15 lennert will be at the talk Apr 26 20:48:34 auke: that's all we need to know - and I think we do need to know it :) Apr 26 20:48:47 I for one welcome our new systemd overlords Apr 26 20:48:54 lbt: LOL Apr 26 20:49:04 hehe Apr 26 20:49:27 Cool, Lennart is going to be a MeeGoConf? Apr 26 20:49:29 mwichmann: I do intend to "steer" the discussion towards meego specificness Apr 26 20:49:39 we're trying to get him there, yes Apr 26 20:49:45 depends on sponsoring partially Apr 26 20:49:54 Does someone know whether participants requesting sponsorship will be notified if they have been declined? Apr 26 20:50:18 fiferboy: Yes, they will be this week. DawnFoster sent an e-mail about it today. Apr 26 20:50:29 gabrbedd: Thanks Apr 26 20:50:36 auke: no was referring to debian , was just tongue in cheek :P Apr 26 20:50:41 I take it if I haven't heard by now that is a bad sign, though Apr 26 20:51:34 arfoll: yes you might have to make two packages. or use %ifdef's heavily, if you are making packages that have services Apr 26 20:51:34 fiferboy: I think they've only just done the y/n for speakers/bofs Apr 26 20:52:46 auke, maybe this will push the %if {meego_version} macros to arrive... Apr 26 20:53:12 auke: I never tried to upgrade a meego installation , but I would imaging adding the needed repos and then doing a zypper dup should work (but zypper was not in 1.1 AFAIR) Apr 26 20:53:19 *imagine Apr 26 20:53:33 lbt: I won't give up hope yet, then :) Apr 26 20:53:59 phaeron, that was never supported AFAIK, and you'll end up with something messy. if you're bothered best to make /home a different partition and start anew Apr 26 20:54:02 fiferboy: and hopefully you'll be comparatively cheap to get there Apr 26 20:54:34 at what point is MeeGo going to support upgrades? Apr 26 20:54:43 lbt: never :P Apr 26 20:54:48 mmm 1.2.1 ? Apr 26 21:10:35 lcuk: Let me know what birds you see Apr 26 21:10:37 I'm off Apr 26 21:11:22 fiferboy, is it a simple grpe "g/birds/historic_phones/" to turn your app into something else? Apr 26 21:11:27 grep ^ Apr 26 21:11:55 lcuk: Unfortunately, no Apr 26 21:12:03 There is some fairly birding specific stuff in there Apr 26 21:12:14 I wish I had time to make it more generic :| Apr 26 21:12:19 heh Apr 26 21:12:31 speaking of birds Apr 26 21:12:35 Well, maybe it isn't as specific as I think Apr 26 21:12:40 we went to wildlife gardens Apr 26 21:12:43 I'll take a look again tnoght :) Apr 26 21:12:46 and saw a whole bunch of birds Apr 26 21:12:54 when we got back Jacob was asking what each was Apr 26 21:13:12 There is a calling for Auto Bird ID app :) Apr 26 21:13:24 Send me pictures and I'll let you know Apr 26 21:13:25 there was a great cockatoo called Monty :) Apr 26 21:13:49 (I took a photo of the badge for that one lol) Apr 26 21:14:17 fiferboy, auto regognition would be really really tricky wouldn't it? Apr 26 21:14:25 asimo has something similar built in afaik Apr 26 21:14:38 lcuk: Oh yeah. Manual identification can be hard enough some times! Apr 26 21:15:25 lol seeing the hardships lardman has had with his barcode app over the time it is no wonder Apr 26 21:15:32 computers have trouble recognising computers! Apr 26 21:15:43 * lcuk stops talking to himself Apr 26 21:18:13 lbt: from 1.3 on we hope to have system upgrades supported in one form or another Apr 26 21:18:21 lbt: but, needs a ton of work Apr 26 21:18:36 Sweet, incoming call now triggers my UI to display a nice incoming call overlay with answer and reject buttons :) Apr 26 21:19:11 lcuk: I can now make and receive calls :) Apr 26 21:19:13 auke: OK - good to have an idea of timeframes Apr 26 21:19:57 alterego, double plus hotness! Apr 26 21:20:06 make some calls then! Apr 26 21:20:45 lcuk: yeah, need to continue integrating things, basically all the other call functions like speaker/headset switching, conference calls, muting/holding, and all of that stuff. Apr 26 21:21:06 * lcuk can be onhand to help test if you like :) Apr 26 21:21:08 There's also this neat function to forward calls to any msisdn/number you want. Apr 26 21:21:59 lcuk: I will be making it public real soon. I was hoping to push it out tonight, but I've been wrestling all this afternoon trying to get dbus interfaces to work in Qml I'm quite behind, but I've been given a bit of leeway so I can work on dialer tomorrow and thursday. Apr 26 21:22:17 So I'm hoping to make a _lot_ of progress and probably have a version ready for integration by then :) Apr 26 21:22:57 that sounds like great progress :) Apr 26 21:23:55 alterego, how do you see yourself behind? Apr 26 21:24:31 Well, you know, you make plans of where you'd like to be by the end of the day and if I'm not there I kinda feel like I've wasted time. Apr 26 21:24:57 * lcuk agrees Apr 26 21:25:00 And wrestling with the dbus stuff all afternoon and this evening, when I was receiving calls this morning during the DE meeting, just seems like very little progress ;) Apr 26 21:25:02 when coding I like to reach a level Apr 26 21:25:18 so that I can carry on with the next bit in the morning Apr 26 21:25:23 But, well, it's 10:30pm almost and I've got to pretty much where I wanted to be ^.^ Apr 26 21:25:32 heh Apr 26 21:26:28 Tomorrow I want to get prestarting sorted, so the UI pops up even if the app isn't open Apr 26 21:27:59 Which I'm hoping will be very little work. Apr 26 21:28:13 Which leaves the rest of the day to refine the UX and make things look a little prettier :) Apr 26 22:01:10 also things like "oh, let us take two days to resolve a ticket to say your arms request failed on some vague technical intermittence and you get to resubmit your request yourself" Apr 26 22:01:52 and "oh we can't deliver a f*n standard configuration laptop in less than about two weeks Apr 26 22:01:55 " Apr 26 22:02:17 but that's all normal :) Apr 26 22:02:48 I got my passport quickly though Apr 26 22:02:57 maybe we should outsource IT to the police Apr 26 22:04:20 also "my irc client has too many tabs and I fail to notice when it's not opening new ones for pmsg" Apr 26 22:05:36 sp3000: :-) Apr 26 22:05:43 * gabrbedd was wondering.... Apr 26 22:05:47 sp3000: having a good rant there ? :) Apr 26 22:05:53 * sp3000 needs to do a round of channel purging Apr 26 22:06:18 lbt: *shrug* normal work day ;) Apr 26 22:06:28 *nod* Apr 26 22:06:43 well.... c.obs is now upgraded Apr 26 22:07:02 <- just for kicks, made a systemd+xfce-4.8 meego image :) Apr 26 22:07:24 * CosmoHill givse auke a cookie Apr 26 22:16:13 'night all Apr 26 22:16:43 night Apr 26 22:17:09 bye Apr 26 22:23:25 * CosmoHill hasn't had a very productive day :( Apr 26 22:24:34 me neither Apr 26 22:24:44 g'night folks Apr 26 22:24:49 i'm stuck on some stupid things Apr 26 22:24:55 night alterego Apr 26 22:26:24 me too Apr 26 22:26:38 I've re-written a large portion of my assignment and improved it Apr 26 22:27:06 but I've become stuff on the section that I've not done / done little on because there's nothing / little to improve, and I work by constantly redoing stuff to make it better Apr 26 22:27:47 im getting some crashes from memory corruption Apr 26 22:28:12 and keep looking at my code to work around it Apr 26 22:28:33 cant figure out where it comes from, beta stuff in fedora probably Apr 26 22:28:49 my dissertation is to compare and constrast windows and linux HPC solutions but I've only been able to run 2 / 3 tests on performace Apr 26 22:29:24 I really need to mention what bastards both platforms are when they have to share compute nodes Apr 26 22:29:58 does windows do multi-user properly now ? Apr 26 22:30:08 you would need that Apr 26 22:30:14 http://black-flag.co.uk/Picture 13.png Apr 26 22:31:04 you have spaces in file names there ? Apr 26 22:31:13 yeah Apr 26 22:31:18 need to do something about that Apr 26 22:31:30 ooo, I have 500 podcasts :/ Apr 26 22:31:53 my irc client thinks the space is the end of the link Apr 26 22:32:02 not entirely unreasonable Apr 26 22:32:06 mine too Apr 26 22:32:15 I was expecting it to put %20 instead of the sapce Apr 26 22:32:41 how would it know what the end is otherwise ? Apr 26 22:33:00 http://black-flag.co.uk/Picture%2013.png Apr 26 22:33:12 yeah i understand that part :) Apr 26 22:33:30 my issue is that I've never used windows server before so everything is new to me Apr 26 22:34:06 any attempt to integrate the two platforms seems to kill linux Apr 26 22:34:42 how many windows supercomputers are the in the world ? 3 or so ? Apr 26 22:34:50 5 in the top500 Apr 26 22:35:12