**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 18 02:59:56 2011
Jun 18 03:33:51 <sofar> the linuxfoundation was having issues
Jun 18 03:34:20 <berndhs> with the new member ?
Jun 18 03:49:20 <sofar> lol what?
Jun 18 03:49:24 <sofar> no, bandwidth wise
Jun 18 03:49:29 <sofar> new member?
Jun 18 03:51:34 <berndhs> the folks who know your bank account and the cash in your pocket, and all its history :P
Jun 18 03:51:41 * Stskeeps yawns
Jun 18 03:52:30 <sofar> anyone can have my bank account info
Jun 18 03:52:53 <sofar> not much you can do with that except wire money TO it, since it's in europe :)
Jun 18 04:41:11 <timoph> morning
Jun 18 07:51:59 <jykae> where I should put program launch image in meego?
Jun 18 07:52:07 <jykae> which folder?
Jun 18 07:52:54 <jykae> exo doesn't find it now
Jun 18 07:53:56 <pebcak> depends
Jun 18 07:54:16 <pebcak> /usr/share/pixmaps works for me :P
Jun 18 09:12:28 <Jaffa> Morning, all
Jun 18 09:14:48 <alterego> Hey Jaffa
Jun 18 09:14:56 * alterego is at the Hactivate summit.
Jun 18 09:35:39 <Jaffa> alterego: Cool. Save the cheerleader, save the world!
Jun 18 10:13:37 <alterego> Heh
Jun 18 10:14:32 * alterego has just had a rather interesting conversation with some Nokia guys.
Jun 18 10:16:10 <vldcnst> share
Jun 18 10:16:26 <alterego> No
Jun 18 10:16:28 <alterego> :)
Jun 18 10:16:58 <alterego> Though, interestingly, apparently someone I'm guessing outside of Nokia are working on a WP Qt port
Jun 18 10:17:07 <vldcnst> teaser
Jun 18 10:21:11 <timoph> :)
Jun 18 10:44:39 <alterego> lcuk: ping
Jun 18 10:48:34 <kevin_b> Hello everybody !
Jun 18 10:48:37 <kevin_b> is there a "XMPP client with video support" Project for Meego?
Jun 18 10:49:59 <andre__> hmm, doesn't Empathy/Telepathy support that?
Jun 18 10:51:46 <kevin_b> ho I see thanks andre__
Jun 18 10:52:22 <andre__> just a guess
Jun 18 10:54:13 <alterego> telepathy does, not sure if Perigrine does that yet?
Jun 18 11:06:35 <lcuk> alterego, pong
Jun 18 11:07:29 <alterego> Take it you're not here then? :P
Jun 18 11:08:05 <lcuk> well since my wages are not yet in, nope
Jun 18 11:08:14 * lcuk is a bit miffed
Jun 18 11:08:25 <alterego> Shame, it's quite interesting :)P
Jun 18 11:08:37 <lcuk> alterego, yeah it was looking good
Jun 18 11:08:52 <lcuk> I guess I will just have to change the world from my desk
Jun 18 11:09:02 <alterego> Heh, I don't really know what to do to be honest.
Jun 18 11:09:13 <alterego> So I just said I'd offer help for people that want Qt/QML etc.
Jun 18 11:09:20 <alterego> Then I got offered a job
Jun 18 11:09:23 * alterego chuckles
Jun 18 11:09:37 <lcuk> alterego, http://liqbase.net/ski.safe.txt
Jun 18 11:09:56 <lcuk> simple app using n8 + qt + sms service which if implemented correctly can save lives
Jun 18 11:10:08 <alterego> That's a good idea.
Jun 18 11:10:18 <lcuk> :)
Jun 18 11:10:30 <alterego> I don't want to steal your idea though :P
Jun 18 11:10:40 <lcuk> keep my name on it and go for it
Jun 18 11:10:46 <lcuk> you have skills to implement the phone side
Jun 18 11:10:58 <lcuk> it needs coordination with ski resorts though
Jun 18 11:13:27 <lcuk> alterego, making a great demo tomorrow afternoon on stage, you can show it works by throwing yourself on the floor
Jun 18 11:13:33 <lcuk> visuals!
Jun 18 11:13:39 <alterego> Hah
Jun 18 11:13:45 <alterego> Or sacrificing an N900 ;)
Jun 18 11:13:47 * lcuk semi serious by the way
Jun 18 11:13:57 <lcuk> I was going to try and implement it this weekend
Jun 18 11:14:06 <alterego> I could do it at the end, I could trip up and fall over.
Jun 18 11:14:14 <alterego> Then the system could take over :D
Jun 18 11:14:19 * lcuk nods
Jun 18 11:15:16 <lcuk> alterego, I told you, I was sortof prepared for this weekend :)
Jun 18 11:16:21 <lcuk> bbl
Jun 18 11:54:19 <alterego> I've decided to do my services/applications auto-discovery localisation thingy
Jun 18 11:54:26 <alterego> And see if anyone wants to rinse my code for their apps.
Jun 18 11:58:46 <berndhs> what does that mean ?
Jun 18 12:02:40 <alterego> Nothing
Jun 18 12:02:52 <alterego> :)
Jun 18 12:03:21 <berndhs> I mean, the world will be a better place afterwards for sure
Jun 18 12:03:52 <berndhs> but how does one rinse your code with one's apps ?
Jun 18 12:04:06 <alterego> That depends what their apps are.
Jun 18 12:04:14 <berndhs> no doubt
Jun 18 12:04:26 <alterego> If there apps are centralised around a specific location, rather than any-where, then my architecture comes into play.
Jun 18 12:04:41 <alterego> In fact, I've already got an app idea that would utilize this framework, several infact.
Jun 18 12:04:59 <berndhs> location as in Rome, Italy ?
Jun 18 12:05:14 <alterego> Sure, or even more specific.
Jun 18 12:06:51 <berndhs> home, office, mom's place, girfriends house, mother-in-law's house,...
Jun 18 12:07:41 <alterego> Yes, exactly
Jun 18 12:09:20 <berndhs> ah, this could be a security feature if used with keyrings
Jun 18 12:09:46 <berndhs> passwords for office related thigns only work while you're at the office
Jun 18 12:10:24 <alterego> That, is a very good idea that would work with this.
Jun 18 12:10:47 <alterego> But it could be more inverted, so, when you're in the office, your _office_ only advertises certain services/applications over the network.
Jun 18 12:11:10 <alterego> You don't need the security in as much as you're already in the building and connected to the network (possibly using wifi auth etc).
Jun 18 12:11:18 <alterego> But a key ring unlock could also be in play.
Jun 18 12:11:39 <alterego> And that is certainly a good idea to put into a security framework I plan on integrating into the system if it becomes more viable.
Jun 18 12:11:45 <berndhs> it could allow different settings for working remote and working in the office
Jun 18 12:11:58 <alterego> Yup
Jun 18 13:00:48 <XwZ> hi,  do you know how to refresh repositories on meego ?
Jun 18 13:01:19 <timoph> zypper ref
Jun 18 13:01:21 <XwZ> i tried zypper refresh but i have an error with core repo (and same with oss found on the meego's wiki)
Jun 18 13:01:40 <timoph> ref == refresh
Jun 18 13:01:51 <timoph> that should work
Jun 18 13:02:13 <XwZ> "please check if the URIs defined for this repository are pointing to a valid repository"
Jun 18 13:02:24 <timoph> maybe there's something wrong with the repo
Jun 18 13:02:43 <XwZ> how can i get the repo uri ?
Jun 18 13:03:05 <timoph> the repos are defined in /etc/zypp/repos.d/
Jun 18 13:03:14 <timoph> (iirc)
Jun 18 13:03:57 <timoph> check the url from the .repo files
Jun 18 13:04:24 <timoph> btw, what image you are using?
Jun 18 13:06:20 <XwZ> i don't know, it's an exoPC loan by intel
Jun 18 13:07:12 <andyross> XwZ, is this a pre-1.2 install?  My memory is that the repo URLs changed at the 1.2 release.
Jun 18 13:07:38 <timoph> yeah. could be that the repos simple don't exist anymore for that image
Jun 18 13:07:59 <timoph> you can check the version by 'cat /etc/meego-release'
Jun 18 13:08:20 <timoph> s/simple/simply/
Jun 18 13:11:52 <XwZ> after some changes on the repo file (relocate the repo) it works \o/
Jun 18 13:11:55 <XwZ> thaks a lot :)
Jun 18 13:11:58 <XwZ> thanks*
Jun 18 13:13:20 <timoph> np
Jun 18 15:16:10 <gabrbedd> alterego: ping
Jun 18 15:16:57 <alterego> Aloha
Jun 18 15:17:10 <gabrbedd> Miki maki wiki
Jun 18 15:17:31 <gabrbedd> alterego: I don't recall... were you the one working on the tuner app?
Jun 18 15:17:46 <alterego> Guitar tuner?
Jun 18 15:18:02 <alterego> I was toying with doing one, I've not actually done one. And I've noticed a QML mobility app that does it :D
Jun 18 15:18:03 <gabrbedd> yeah
Jun 18 15:18:27 <gabrbedd> ok.  i was just curious where that went.
Jun 18 15:20:36 <ph0b028> Someone has the exopc here ? I'm trying to reinstall Meego on it but latest 1.2 builds seem not to work
Jun 18 16:10:25 <lcuk> \o/
Jun 18 16:10:34 <lcuk> maemo contacts import works on n900-de
Jun 18 17:03:08 <BlueAidan> gah... can't get this touchscreen to work
Jun 18 17:03:13 <BlueAidan> dell inspiron duo
Jun 18 17:03:55 <BlueAidan> using pinetrail, and I moved the xorg config file like in https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?format=multiple&id=17967
Jun 18 17:04:21 <BlueAidan> there's output in the xorg log re: egalax screen and it seems to configure it, but nothing happens when I touch/drag on the screen
Jun 18 17:04:44 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: Please pastebin/pastie your Xorg.log
Jun 18 17:05:26 <BlueAidan> the entire log, or just the entries about the touchscreen?
Jun 18 17:05:43 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: Entire log would be helpful.
Jun 18 17:07:19 * npm wonders why ExoPC Xorg log outputs "[     6.084] (II) intel(0): Setting screen physical size to 256 x 144 "
Jun 18 17:08:07 <npm>  /tmp/Xorg.0.meego.log
Jun 18 17:08:50 <BlueAidan> alright, gonna take a bit
Jun 18 17:09:05 <BlueAidan> is there an easier way to pastebin the whole file than copy/pasting a screenful at a time?
Jun 18 17:11:11 <npm> use emacs? C-x h ctrl-insert ... then shift-insert into browser... of course if you're using emacs, just use m-x w3m-browse-url and cut/paste directly
Jun 18 17:12:33 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: Yeah... what npm says.  Open in gedit or emacs... select all... then paste in browser.
Jun 18 17:13:29 <BlueAidan> http://pastebin.com/BU8MYUrA
Jun 18 17:14:34 <BlueAidan> instead of copying the xorg config file like in that ticket, I moved it. It seemed like copying wouldn't work since it kept the same number at the beginning?
Jun 18 17:14:42 <npm> BlueAidan's says "[    12.938] (II) intel(0): Setting screen physical size to 289 x 162"
Jun 18 17:14:50 <npm> wtf
Jun 18 17:15:25 <BlueAidan> what? the display looks fine
Jun 18 17:15:30 <npm> tha'ts after "GLX: Initialized DRI2 GL provider for screen 0" ... so  it prob. has little to do w/ BlueAidan's problem
Jun 18 17:15:42 <BlueAidan> the device's resolution is 1366x768 iirc
Jun 18 17:15:44 <npm> sorry, i'm bringing my issue to your logfile :-)
Jun 18 17:15:59 <BlueAidan> oh
Jun 18 17:16:02 <npm> tha'ts why i find that output questionable
Jun 18 17:16:10 <npm> it may cause GL problems
Jun 18 17:16:30 <BlueAidan> I haven't gotten that far yet
Jun 18 17:17:28 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: OK... what's the problem with your touchscreen again?  It doesn't work at all?  Or what?
Jun 18 17:17:31 <npm> i'd worry about your first line: [    12.510] _XSERVTransmkdir: ERROR: euid != 0,directory /tmp/.X11-unix will not be created.
Jun 18 17:17:42 <BlueAidan> gabrbedd: it doesn't work at all
Jun 18 17:17:58 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: and before you did the xorg.conf.d thing?
Jun 18 17:18:19 <BlueAidan> it would acknowledge a touch to the screen, by moving the pointer to the top left corner
Jun 18 17:18:26 <npm> that  /tmp/.X11-unix looks like a problem
Jun 18 17:18:28 <BlueAidan> but wouldn't respond to drags or anything else
Jun 18 17:18:46 <npm> i'm surprised it does even that
Jun 18 17:19:13 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: what does `uname -a` give you?
Jun 18 17:19:38 <BlueAidan> it's in the logfile there at the top (adaptation-pinetrail)
Jun 18 17:19:58 <BlueAidan> I'm on irc on a different machine
Jun 18 17:19:59 <npm> if you can't get it to create a unix domain socket for you at   srwxrwxrwx 1 npm  npm     0 2011-06-17 21:08 /tmp/.X11-unix/X0= how would you expect it to work?
Jun 18 17:20:30 <gabrbedd> kk
Jun 18 17:20:32 <BlueAidan> should I make that dir and reboot?
Jun 18 17:20:46 <npm> any connections over :0.0 won't work and you'd need to use `hostname`:0 instead
Jun 18 17:20:48 <BlueAidan> everything in x works fine except the touchscreen
Jun 18 17:21:07 <npm> it should be able to make that dir... check if exists or is wrong perms
Jun 18 17:21:50 <npm> your xorg should be running as you, not root, so make sure the dir is writable by you
Jun 18 17:22:21 <BlueAidan> okay
Jun 18 17:22:26 <npm> nice security hole here too: srwxrwxrwx 1 meego meego 0 2011-06-17 10:00 X0=
Jun 18 17:22:28 <npm> doh
Jun 18 17:22:35 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: what is the device ID for your touchscreen? ...
Jun 18 17:22:40 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: Do this command:
Jun 18 17:22:59 <npm> man, that's a good sploit :-)
Jun 18 17:23:01 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: sudo lsusb -v | grep -E "(^Device|Vendor|Product|Manufac)"
Jun 18 17:23:08 <BlueAidan> would be nice if quassel was packaged
Jun 18 17:23:47 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: What's needed is idVendor and idProduct for your touchscreen device.
Jun 18 17:25:18 <BlueAidan> ok, working
Jun 18 17:27:00 <BlueAidan> pastebin.com/AKiqDFLg
Jun 18 17:30:24 * gabrbedd is searching the kernel sources... but was called to lunch by his family....
Jun 18 17:34:05 <BlueAidan> xinput --list shows 5 entries for the egalax
Jun 18 17:34:43 <BlueAidan> all ending with slave pointer (2)
Jun 18 17:35:14 <BlueAidan> however, there's an entry before them that ends with that too (Virtual core XTEST pointer)
Jun 18 17:44:50 * lcuk wonders how to fillup #liqbase again
Jun 18 17:46:12 <CosmoHill> free tea and biscuits?
Jun 18 17:47:37 * SpeedEvil just wants someone to implement http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Server:WebProxy
Jun 18 17:47:45 <SpeedEvil> Bounty of one bounty bar for completion.
Jun 18 17:51:19 <lcuk> CosmoHill, perhaps
Jun 18 17:51:54 <SpeedEvil> Or alternatively, to fix my DSL.
Jun 18 17:53:11 * SpeedEvil rages against the dying of the (sync) light.
Jun 18 17:57:42 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: There is no kernel driver for that device.
Jun 18 17:57:55 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: So it's probably defaulting to the generic 'HID' driver.
Jun 18 17:58:32 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: However, based on its behavior... if you add the device ID's to the hid-multitouch driver it'll probably work like a champ.
Jun 18 17:58:46 <BlueAidan> hmm
Jun 18 17:58:50 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: Note that I'm looking at Linus's branch.
Jun 18 18:00:24 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: If you want to try and hot-rod a kernel... I can help you with the patch.  (It'll be about 6 lines to add the device to the driver).
Jun 18 18:00:38 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: Make sure you're using >= 2.6.38
Jun 18 18:00:46 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: My e-mail is gabrbedd@gmail.com
Jun 18 18:00:57 <BlueAidan> most of the posts online say to download a proprietary driver
Jun 18 18:01:19 <BlueAidan> it's been a looong time since I fiddled with stuff at the kernel level
Jun 18 18:02:50 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: I'm 99.9% sure that the hid-multitouch driver will work.
Jun 18 18:03:19 <BlueAidan> well, if you don't mind trying to build something I can try it out
Jun 18 18:03:55 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: If you wanna try it... here's the docs to get started http://wiki.meego.com/Tips_on_compiling_and_packaging_kernels_in_MeeGo
Jun 18 18:03:58 <BlueAidan> I just started with meego, so I'm not familiar with the procedures for building/installing custom kernels
Jun 18 18:04:02 <BlueAidan> ok
Jun 18 18:04:08 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: But I'm all full-up with side projects ATM.  Sorry. :-)
Jun 18 18:04:32 <BlueAidan> can you email me a patch so I can try it? david@dawninglight.net
Jun 18 18:11:52 * gabrbedd sends email to BlueAidan
Jun 18 18:12:10 <BlueAidan> I just found some emails from this month about it
Jun 18 18:12:14 <BlueAidan> looking at them now
Jun 18 18:12:48 <BlueAidan> looks like support is in 2.6.39
Jun 18 18:12:54 <BlueAidan> but there are some problems with it
Jun 18 18:13:29 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: I did not see the device ID in the kernel sources... so I doubt it.
Jun 18 18:19:24 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: According to this http://lii-enac.fr/en/architecture/linux-input/multitouch-devices.html
Jun 18 18:19:45 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: It's in the 2.6.39 kernel, but they haven't tested it.  I would guess that it's an error on their page.
Jun 18 18:20:09 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: FYI, that site is the upstream maintainers for this driver.
Jun 18 18:20:28 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: So, whatever you find... please report it to them. :-)
Jun 18 18:22:03 <BlueAidan> ok
Jun 18 18:31:35 <julienf> Hello :)
Jun 18 18:31:59 <gabrbedd> howdy!
Jun 18 18:32:09 <julienf> trying to recover from our summer party last night :D
Jun 18 18:32:23 <julienf> and at #demoparty in Helsinki :)
Jun 18 18:33:21 <gabrbedd> :)
Jun 18 18:37:30 <julienf> gabrbedd: how are things?
Jun 18 18:40:55 <gabrbedd> julienf: good.  what about you?
Jun 18 18:41:01 <julienf> quite alright
Jun 18 18:41:10 <julienf> thinking about company names and branding
Jun 18 18:41:20 <gabrbedd> haha, me too
Jun 18 18:42:13 <Ronksu> add ideas to that, and I'm included ,)
Jun 18 18:42:30 <julienf> Ronksu: what do you mean?
Jun 18 18:43:00 <Ronksu> thinking about company names and branding, but still in the idea for a company part
Jun 18 18:43:01 <gabrbedd> Ronksu: well, the ideas obviously came first.  That was the "easy" part.
Jun 18 18:43:11 * SpeedEvil heats up his branding iron.
Jun 18 18:43:11 <Ronksu> gabrbedd: good for you :)
Jun 18 18:43:48 * gabrbedd nonchalantly walks in the direction opposite SpeedEvil 
Jun 18 18:44:29 <julienf> SpeedEvil: would be glad to be at a stage at which I'd have the iron already :D
Jun 18 18:44:49 <julienf> Ronksu: I do have almost everything laid out, but now need to find a good name
Jun 18 18:44:55 <julienf> my existing company is called LeCatalyst
Jun 18 18:45:13 <julienf> which is quite alright, but not really something that scales too well :D
Jun 18 18:48:05 <julienf> what do you think?
Jun 18 18:48:12 <BlueAidan> yay, quassel build finally finished
Jun 18 18:48:49 <berndhs> what's the company for ?
Jun 18 18:49:28 <julienf> so far it's about mobile strategy
Jun 18 18:49:32 <julienf> but thinking of expanding
Jun 18 18:49:55 <berndhs> you could pick an accurate but boring name, washit through google translate a few times
Jun 18 18:50:09 <berndhs> then you take something that sounds cool, and spell it wrong
Jun 18 18:50:31 <julienf> haha :D
Jun 18 18:50:55 <berndhs> the wrong spelling is so you can get traction on lawsuits for the naming
Jun 18 18:52:08 <Ronksu> clever :)
Jun 18 18:57:08 <gabrbedd> Here's a name:  Road Fugue
Jun 18 18:59:03 <julienf> WTF? :D
Jun 18 19:00:04 <BlueAidan> how do you restart xorg without rebooting?
Jun 18 19:05:04 <gabrbedd> Actually, that name was for julienf... but now I'm thinking of keeping it. :-)
Jun 18 19:05:13 <gabrbedd> BlueAidan: nohup pkill uxlaunch
Jun 18 20:19:08 <julienf> is it always so quiet on the chat on a Saturday? :D
Jun 18 20:20:58 <alterego> Depends on the time of the month.
Jun 18 20:25:11 <julienf> alterego: I guess so
Jun 18 20:25:17 <julienf> I should be sleeping already :D
Jun 18 20:25:25 <julienf> but having so much fun working on my pet project
Jun 18 20:25:59 <alterego> :)
Jun 18 20:26:08 <alterego> That's good, don't burn out though :P
Jun 18 20:26:58 <julienf> well.. I'll use tomorrow to recover, I guess :)
Jun 18 20:27:45 <alterego> Neat
Jun 18 20:28:01 <julienf> hey thiago!
Jun 18 20:28:22 <julienf> alterego: what are you up to?
Jun 18 20:29:00 <thiago> julienf: hello
Jun 18 20:29:05 <angelox> Hi all
Jun 18 20:29:34 <alterego> julienf: just got back from London hactivate, heading out to have some drinks with friends, then going back to London tomorrow for day 2 :)
Jun 18 20:29:52 <angelox> Following this: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/Dual_Boot recommends me using a 4GB+ microSD,i can use a 2GB microSD?
Jun 18 20:30:34 * wmarone_ boggles at peope running Qt on the iPad
Jun 18 20:30:38 <wmarone_> people*
Jun 18 20:30:41 <julienf> alterego: how was London Hactivate?
Jun 18 20:30:44 <alterego> angelox: probably, but it's fiddly, you'd have to manually partition and then mount the downloaded image to copy across the data to your actual partitions.
Jun 18 20:30:56 <alterego> julienf: was really cool, got a lot of hacking done :)
Jun 18 20:31:23 <alterego> julienf: remember that idea I was talking about last week? The localised services and apps?
Jun 18 20:31:51 <thiago> wmarone_: the video from yesterday?
Jun 18 20:32:00 <wmarone_> ya
Jun 18 20:32:02 <julienf> alterego: yes I do. How did it go?
Jun 18 20:32:06 <thiago> yeah
Jun 18 20:32:11 <angelox> alterego: Ok thank you,it also says to me that i need use version "20.2010.36-2" and i have "20.2010.36-2.210.2". Everything ok?
Jun 18 20:32:16 <thiago> the iOS session was overflowing with people today at the QtCS
Jun 18 20:32:37 <thiago> Wayland and the Android port were the two hottest topics here
Jun 18 20:42:08 <angelox> That tutorial also says to me that i need use version "20.2010.36-2" and i have "20.2010.36-2.210.2". Everything ok?
Jun 18 20:43:54 <thiago> sounds like a subversion of the same
Jun 18 20:44:07 <thiago> 2010.36-2 sounds like Maemo5 PR1.3
Jun 18 20:45:00 <angelox> i've never used maemo or meego,and i want to try with everything correct to don't get any problem (bought my n900 yesterday)
Jun 18 20:45:34 <thiago> open a terminal and run osso-product-info
Jun 18 20:45:38 <thiago> still that 210.2 version?
Jun 18 20:46:06 <Stskeeps> angelox: should be fine - it's the kernel version that matters
Jun 18 20:46:16 <Stskeeps> angelox: backup anyway and make sure you know how to reflash
Jun 18 20:46:31 <Stskeeps> angelox: also, you need a 4gb
Jun 18 20:46:36 <Stskeeps> bbl sleep
Jun 18 20:46:57 <angelox> ok thank you,but i don't have a 4gb mmc...
Jun 18 20:47:46 <thiago> it's actually pretty hard to completely brick an N900. Ensure it's fully charged and that you have the flasher tool and the standard image downloaded.
Jun 18 20:48:22 <angelox> i'll try to find these files
Jun 18 20:48:27 <angelox> thanks atm
Jun 18 20:53:41 <angelox> if i simply install uboot-pr13 without any change on my actual MicroSD,maemo will still boot fine?
Jun 18 21:05:07 <MohammadAG> yes
Jun 18 21:06:06 <angelox> ok,thanks
Jun 18 21:11:31 <angelox> i cant see uboot...may i install from a x terminal as root?
Jun 18 21:13:09 <julienf> angelox: you can find the info to get uBoot running on your device here: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/Dual_Boot
Jun 18 21:14:18 <angelox> julienf: "2. Install the 'uboot-pr13' package from 'System' section" i can't find it,enabled extras-devel
Jun 18 21:15:03 <julienf> angelox: are you sure you have all not made a typo in adding the repository?
Jun 18 21:15:55 <angelox> julienf: yes,it also asked me to search for updates,and i cancelled it,should i leave it searching for updates?
Jun 18 21:16:07 <julienf> yes, you should check for updates
Jun 18 21:16:20 <angelox> and if there's,should i apply?
Jun 18 21:16:35 <julienf> it's never a bad things to update :)
Jun 18 21:16:48 <angelox> ok,thanks,doing :)
Jun 18 21:17:01 <julienf> at least you'll know if it helps or not
Jun 18 21:25:55 <angelox> julienf: installed,thanks,let's test :)
Jun 18 21:26:11 <julienf> angelox: so it works to get uBoot?
Jun 18 21:27:01 <angelox> search for update shows me uboot and allows me to install it,i'll check if it opens when i reboot the phone
Jun 18 21:28:00 <angelox> oh no,my device doesn't start no more
Jun 18 21:28:59 <angelox> Oh,i got  a scare ! Phone had to open u-boot two times to boot Maemo... :D    (newbie here)
Jun 18 22:03:53 <berndhs> can we shut down  <i_tushar@live.com>, or else recall him/her from their vacation ?
Jun 18 22:11:11 <SpeedEvil> /////////////////
Jun 18 22:11:33 <DocScrutinizer> hey :-)
Jun 18 22:12:14 * DocScrutinizer curses BS and CR being too close to each other on N900 ;-D
Jun 18 22:14:20 <julienf> :D
Jun 18 22:14:27 <GAN900> DocScrutinizer, that'll be the death of me one day.
Jun 18 22:15:16 <SpeedEvil> oops
Jun 18 23:47:01 <CosmoHill> DocScrutinizer: I have a laptop and still have the same problem
Jun 18 23:51:24 <loft306> hehe
Jun 18 23:51:46 <CosmoHill> damn, I can't open 15 web pages and stream video from the internet
Jun 18 23:57:33 <loft306> go back to 14
Jun 18 23:59:56 <berndhs> try 16, maybe its something with odd numbers
Jun 19 00:37:27 <newbie008> any updates for the nookcolor? I've been keeping up with the forum and wiki...
Jun 19 02:50:28 <sosborn> I'm getting "bad ELF Interpreter" when trying to run the Linux SDK installer, any suggestions?
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