**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 19 02:59:57 2011 Jun 19 09:30:29 Hi Jun 19 09:30:32 I love MeeGo Jun 19 09:30:50 Hope to see MeeGo launch from Nokia on Tuesday Jun 19 09:36:50 It wont be meego Jun 19 09:46:27 alterego: http://www.mobili.no/nyheter/kommer-meego-telefonen-pa-tirsdag/ Jun 19 09:47:47 rumours on #meego-bar please Jun 19 09:48:22 * alterego sighs Jun 19 09:48:35 amixppc: don't believe stuff you read from random websites :P Jun 19 09:48:44 Stskeeps: did you read the MeeGo compliance spec? Jun 19 09:49:44 alterego: as an Amiga user I know everything about that ;P Jun 19 09:49:50 Hahah Jun 19 09:49:53 Yeah Jun 19 09:50:35 99% of the web and people thinks amiga is dead. But the fact its very alive ;P Jun 19 09:50:44 I hope to see MeeGo getting bigger Jun 19 09:51:04 met lots of people from MeeGo in Barcelona at the Mobile World Congress there Jun 19 09:51:05 Still it's community driven. Jun 19 09:51:19 Anyway, we'd all like to see _MeeGo_ get bigger, that's why the majority of us are here :) Jun 19 09:51:42 what were they doing Jun 19 09:51:45 :) Jun 19 09:53:11 That's nice, what do you do? Jun 19 09:53:28 I am a web designer Jun 19 09:53:30 alterego: yes? Jun 19 09:54:06 alterego: i spend my day fighting for amiga :) Jun 19 09:54:27 even i know there is little chance for coming back, its my hope Jun 19 09:54:40 so I help meego and other communities too Jun 19 09:54:43 :) Jun 19 09:56:54 You should look at learning QML :) Jun 19 09:57:05 I think you'd like it coming from a web dev perspective :) Jun 19 09:59:59 ~~[6~[B[Bal what about it? Jun 19 10:00:23 alterego: what about it? Jun 19 10:01:43 Nothing really just doesn't look good on the Harmattan front from what I can tell. Jun 19 10:03:37 never did Jun 19 10:06:59 Yeaj Jun 19 10:07:16 I reckon we need a "MeeGo Compatible" badge, but I doubt those that make these kinds of descisions would agree :) Jun 19 10:13:14 Good morning julian Jun 19 10:13:25 You arrived @ my favourite time .. Jun 19 10:14:48 * alterego is now integration QML generation into ruby on rails for service distribution Jun 19 10:15:01 And proxying through a service gateway protocol to my C++ service architecture. Jun 19 10:15:16 services, services, services ... :S Jun 19 10:22:21 And where is lcuk, he should be here by now. Jun 19 10:22:32 * alterego listens for a manchester accent. Jun 19 10:24:50 amixppc: out of curiosity, did you notice the NFC on MeeGo demo at MWC? Jun 19 10:25:03 morning alterego :) Jun 19 10:28:25 dm8tbr: yup Jun 19 10:28:32 Haven't seen it but I saw someone tweet about it earlier. Jun 19 10:29:10 * Stskeeps noms tieto bubblegum Jun 19 10:29:23 alterego: at #meegofi it was quite prominently displayed and MeeGoExperts blogged it. was just wondering how it was at MWC Jun 19 10:29:36 Stskeeps: hehe :) Jun 19 10:29:49 aaaaaand you win: .... bublegum! Jun 19 10:53:15 hello is MeeGo format hard disk where is installed on 3 partitions by default Jun 19 10:53:42 I've bought one netbook which comes with installed meego Jun 19 10:54:06 but I want to know why hdd is in 3-parts Jun 19 10:54:48 if it's by default i shouldn't reinstall it because i was thinking to do it Jun 19 10:55:22 Recku: this is how linux works. It needs a Boot partition, a Storage partition and a Swap partition Jun 19 10:55:31 yes I know Jun 19 10:55:35 I use Debian Jun 19 10:55:40 ok :) Jun 19 10:55:50 but I'm confused by that partitioning Jun 19 10:55:57 so Jun 19 10:56:14 this is the 3 parts Jun 19 10:56:28 Boot, System and SWAP Jun 19 10:57:14 ... linux will work fine with just one partition Jun 19 10:57:34 but otherwise the partitioning is like 217 GB storage, about 100 GB Boot and 120 GB Jun 19 10:58:18 100 GB boot partition? lol Jun 19 10:58:28 I don't understand why is needed more than 1 GB Jun 19 10:58:31 annd I thought my 100 MB were crazy Jun 19 10:58:34 for other partitions Jun 19 10:58:38 are you sure it's not 100MB? Jun 19 10:58:42 RAM is 2 GB Jun 19 10:58:54 so SWAP is enough for 1GB Jun 19 10:58:58 sure Jun 19 10:59:22 the sum is about 500 GB Jun 19 10:59:58 because the HDD is 500 GB Jun 19 11:00:47 sounds like whomever installed meego on that netbook either went with the defaults or made some serious mistake Jun 19 11:01:07 Uhm... I'm going to see more about that, but for now I can't because netbook it's in my girlfriend Jun 19 11:01:14 :D Jun 19 11:01:19 Ok Jun 19 11:02:05 I asked you for partitioning on default installation Jun 19 11:02:36 never did a netbook install on a drive that big Jun 19 11:03:44 Recku: just do a reinstall and specify the partition sizes you want. Won't take you more than 30mins and at least you'll be done :) Which netbook is it? Jun 19 11:04:08 Acer Aspire One D255 Jun 19 11:04:41 ok Jun 19 11:18:20 I've another question Jun 19 11:18:47 in wiki page about installing applications Jun 19 11:19:07 there is wrote Go to the Applications panel, click on "Manage Apps" and search or browse for new applications. Jun 19 11:19:31 but it isn't seems there are Manage Apps Jun 19 11:21:01 so how to install application from rpm package - manual downloaded in GUI Jun 19 11:21:11 not by using Terminal Jun 19 11:23:30 Recku: which version of meego is this? Jun 19 11:23:56 1.1 Jun 19 11:24:30 that's seriously oooold :) Jun 19 11:25:50 so in 1.2 there is Manage Apps tool for GUI installing software packages Jun 19 11:26:26 I guess Jun 19 11:26:45 haven't used 1.2 netbook after it was released Jun 19 14:40:57 hello again Jun 19 14:41:05 friend of a friend Jun 19 14:42:57 can I install meego on my SE w810? Jun 19 14:43:14 if you port it you can Jun 19 14:43:31 port it to what Jun 19 14:43:38 to the SE w810 Jun 19 14:43:40 what is w810 cpu? Jun 19 14:43:45 I have no idea Jun 19 14:43:59 siavoshkc: what is w810 cpu? Jun 19 14:44:15 hey sofar Jun 19 14:44:36 its javar runner bt-677 Jun 19 14:44:41 java* Jun 19 14:45:07 siavoshkc: please read http://wiki.meego.com/devices Jun 19 14:45:40 i made that up Jun 19 14:47:38 handset is mobile? Jun 19 14:48:05 yes Jun 19 14:49:40 hmmmmmm Jun 19 14:50:17 how can I know w810 platform Jun 19 14:50:31 wikipedia would be a good start Jun 19 14:51:07 should be so much fun to mess with it Jun 19 14:51:19 assuming you don't brick it Jun 19 14:51:38 once i did Jun 19 14:52:11 I just updated firmware using SE provided update from their website Jun 19 14:52:21 and _ Jun 19 14:57:32 good even Jun 19 14:57:38 good evening Jun 19 15:00:19 wait let me check my clocks Jun 19 18:42:08 DawnFoster: ping ... can you contact adam Jun 19 18:45:36 alterego, nice: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1031925&postcount=5703 Jun 19 18:46:40 heh, yeah, let's put the world on fire ;) Jun 19 19:04:54 Hunka, hunka burnin' love Jun 19 19:05:00 I'm a hunka, hunka burnin' love Jun 19 19:05:18 medication! Jun 19 19:05:23 gabrbedd: you're scaring the customers :) Jun 19 19:05:40 Lord, oh my! Jun 19 19:05:50 I feel my temper'ture risin' Jun 19 19:06:02 Myrtti, I think he already had enough. Jun 19 19:06:42 Thank you, I thank ya. Jun 19 19:09:44 are there any public mirrors of meego packages? Jun 19 19:09:55 kernel.org i think Jun 19 19:10:10 I've been trying to download the kernel source package all morning, and it seems like whereever it's getting it from is flaking out Jun 19 19:10:35 how do I tell zypper to use a mirror? Jun 19 19:16:54 BlueAidan: I think it's `zypper si -D kernel-adaptation-pinetrail` to pull just the dependencies. Jun 19 19:17:08 BlueAidan: And you can download directly via HTTP if you wish... Jun 19 19:17:28 k Jun 19 19:17:33 http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.2.0/repos/oss/source/ Jun 19 19:17:47 AFAIK the kernel.org mirrors are rsync mirrors. Jun 19 19:18:35 Nope... they have a web interface... http://mirrors.kernel.org/meego/releases/1.2.0/repos/oss/source/ Jun 19 19:30:07 lbt: Just noticed that email<->forum bridge isn't one of the outstanding tasks on http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-community/2011-June/004220.html. Last I head it was "pending a move to OSU" (or something) Jun 19 19:30:51 Jaffa: sadly that's not an IT issue ... although come to think of it... Jun 19 19:31:02 why isn't Reggie part of the IT team ? Jun 19 19:31:30 he does pop in to see us... but I guess the forum is run as a 'service' Jun 19 19:31:55 lbt: I assumed he was given your second paragraph and the stuff about user-facing stuff like mailing lists/OBS/... Jun 19 19:32:02 anyhow... I want the community/CO to drive that as a requirement Jun 19 19:32:26 we (IT) do manage the forums VM ... but not the forums application... Jun 19 19:33:03 The "community" stopped asking after being told it was too heavyweight to be run on the existing infrastructure so was pending The Great Server Unification Project (a title I've just made up, but hopefully indicates the level of disdain for "we'll do it later as part of this really big thing we're really going to have to do someday") Jun 19 19:33:16 lbt: Right Jun 19 19:33:55 so ... now we are unified... stop whinging and fix it Jun 19 19:34:05 :) Jun 19 19:34:08 gabrbedd: what version of the kernel was the patch you sent me for? Jun 19 19:34:24 lbt: http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-community/2010-April/000686.html Jun 19 19:34:40 when people know you only serve chocolate and vanilla, the demand for strawberry drops dramatically :) Jun 19 19:34:51 I'm trying to patch the pinetrail one, and I don't see any other references to EGALAX in hid-multitouch.c Jun 19 19:35:13 Jaffa: yep... when is the next CO meeting? Jun 19 19:35:43 lbt: and, of course, your own contribution (sensible as ever) to that thread http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-community/2010-April/000694.html Jun 19 19:35:48 lbt: Given we just had one, no idea. Jun 19 19:35:54 lbt: Let me check the minutes, since I've got them open Jun 19 19:36:13 The next meeting will be on June 28 at 14:00 UTC (7am Pacific Jun 19 19:36:42 woo... I'm not away! Jun 19 19:36:55 * Stskeeps will be! Jun 19 19:36:57 ;) Jun 19 19:37:01 :P Jun 19 19:37:03 * Jaffa too! :-) Jun 19 19:37:17 OK - so grant me your proxies Jun 19 19:37:33 lbt: You have it. Here's power of attorney, too. Jun 19 19:38:00 * lbt goes to look for his T3 guns Jun 19 19:41:26 Jaffa: OK - do you want to reply to that thread? Jun 19 19:43:06 gabrbedd: okay, I'm trying it against 2.6.39.1. (just your patch, the other meego patches from 2.6.38.2 weren't applying cleanly) Jun 19 19:44:55 how can you add/change keyboard hotkeys in meego? Like, ctl-alt-left/right moves to the zone immediately left/right Jun 19 19:45:07 but is it possible to use say ctl-1 to go directly to the 1st zone? Jun 19 19:46:06 lbt: Which one of the few? Jun 19 19:48:46 Jaffa: you get to choose.... although maybe some merging ... and cc'ing all participants to remind them to take part again :) Jun 19 20:19:34 BlueAidan: Possibly because some of those patches are backports from 2.6.39. :-) Jun 19 20:19:53 ah Jun 19 20:20:01 BlueAidan: As for changing zones... that's specific to the Netbook UX. I don't know how to discover it without reviewing the code. Jun 19 20:20:17 * BlueAidan is on the duo in the car, connected to my phone wifi hotspot Jun 19 20:20:29 ok Jun 19 20:20:31 BlueAidan: But that's probably the only way that you could change it. (At least, thats the case with meego-ux-daemon) Jun 19 20:20:48 BlueAidan: If it's configurable... it'll prob. be through a gconf setting. Jun 19 20:21:00 I'll poke around Jun 19 20:21:16 I just realized that meego thinks the duo only has 1GB of ram Jun 19 20:21:32 it's supposed to ship with 2gb Jun 19 20:21:44 I'll have to boot into the bios to see what it thinks is there Jun 19 20:23:15 892812 kB actually Jun 19 20:23:29 the rest is probably reserved for the vid card Jun 19 20:33:35 BlueAidan: Long story short.... your kernel was compiled without HIGHMEM support. Even if you have 2GB RAM, you'll only be able to use 1GB. Jun 19 20:33:57 BlueAidan: I was told that it was for performance reasons. Jun 19 20:46:00 blerg Jun 19 20:46:21 guess I'll have to remove that particular perfomance enhancement Jun 19 20:46:22 wth Jun 19 20:49:37 they have transparent huge page support enabled but not highmem? Jun 19 20:49:42 what are these guys smoking? Jun 19 20:59:36 Testing, is this a live chatroom? Or another dead end? Jun 19 21:00:05 Oh joy another dead room. Jun 19 21:00:15 live chatroom? Jun 19 21:00:27 oh there is life! yay! Jun 19 21:00:46 DamnedMeego: well, your nick isn't too inspiring. That and it's quite late in Europe, where a large part of this channel is based... Jun 19 21:00:52 you're going to need more patience if you're going to use irc Jun 19 21:01:00 well I've been fighting to install meego for 6 hours Jun 19 21:01:05 forgive me if I'm a little upperty Jun 19 21:01:27 DamnedMeego, chill Jun 19 21:01:52 better? Jun 19 21:02:16 :D Jun 19 21:02:36 image or kickstart? Jun 19 21:03:17 Anyway, if I can borrow your ear for a second or two. I'm attempting to install Meego onto an Asus 1005HA which is on the compatible list. I have two USB drives here, and I've used the byte-copy software recommended on their website. No matter what I do, or how I adjust the BIOS settings I can't get the thing to boot. Jun 19 21:03:44 what image? Jun 19 21:04:34 meego-netbook-ia32-chrome-1.2.0.img Jun 19 21:06:16 and your using something like win32diskimager Jun 19 21:06:30 and you image is from where Jun 19 21:06:51 what messages do you get when you boot Jun 19 21:06:51 Directly from the meego website. I accepted the user agreement and everything to download it. Jun 19 21:07:02 link? Jun 19 21:07:07 No messages, it simply doesn't detect the key as a bootable device. Jun 19 21:07:31 how did you write the image? Jun 19 21:08:04 I'm not familiar with the asus bios, what option did you ue to enable it to boot from isb Jun 19 21:08:08 I loaded win32diskimager, selected the image file using the blue folder button, selected the USB drive, then clicked on write. Jun 19 21:08:10 usb sorry Jun 19 21:08:33 what was the link? Jun 19 21:09:12 Yes, I went into the boot menu and selected the usb key as the only bootable device, disabling all others. It then gives the standard can't boot message. Once I re-enable my primary hard drive and add it after the USB key in the list, it just goes straight to windows. Jun 19 21:09:16 https://www.meego.com/downloads/releases/1.2/meego-v1.2-netbooks-google-chrome-browser Jun 19 21:10:59 The point is I've booted from USB keys before. It's easy peasy, Ubuntu's live image, no problem! Meego, freaking nightmare. Jun 19 21:11:55 this image only says 'Supported Hardware Jun 19 21:11:55 In general, MeeGo v1.2 for Netbook will run on Intel Atom* based netbooks, and has been tested on the following platforms: Jun 19 21:11:55 Pinetrail Netbook: HP mini, Asus Eee PC* 1005PE Jun 19 21:12:06 I've gone so far to download 8 images, two of those on physical ethernet. I've also tested them in virtualbox, they work fine no corruption. But as soon as a I do a byte-copy it fails. Jun 19 21:13:19 Meego_aggony, how does your byte-copy command look like? Jun 19 21:13:20 it looks like earlier meego images worked ok, http://logbookofanobserver.wordpress.com/2010/07/16/asus-eeepc-1005ha-and-meego-1-0-1/ Jun 19 21:13:45 windows, so that's irrelivent Jun 19 21:14:02 Oh, ffs. So 1.0 is compatible but 1.2 isn't Jun 19 21:14:07 Fantastic intel, thank you very much Jun 19 21:14:35 well there's no point then, I tried 1.0 ages ago, it had no support for my wifi chipset, and what's the point in using a netbook without wifi? Jun 19 21:17:09 Anyway, thanks. I guess it's my fault. I see a 0.2 upgrade on 1, and I assumed it would support the previous hardware. Guess that's a bit logical for opensource. Thanks for your help. Jun 19 21:18:33 shackled_to_Micr, this bug report seems to point to problems with your target hardware, https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3172 Jun 19 21:18:35 Bug 3172 nor, Low, ---, auke-jan.h.kok, RESO WORKSFORME, MeeGo crashes eeePC 1005HA BIOS Jun 19 21:19:00 shackled_to_Micr, please update the bug Jun 19 21:19:40 Aard: pin Jun 19 21:19:41 g Jun 19 21:20:21 lbt: yes? Jun 19 21:20:38 hey ... are you still on nokia email ? Jun 19 21:20:49 thanks MeeGoBot, but there's no point. It's not listing 1005HA as compatible with 1.2 as vgrade pointed out. Jun 19 21:20:57 I've been meaning to catch up Aard :) Jun 19 21:21:18 lbt: I still am, and maybe will work closer with you than you like soon ;) Jun 19 21:21:39 cc'ing you on a mail on distro-tool-list Jun 19 21:21:45 about making chroot dev env Jun 19 21:23:00 sounds good though .... more Merittati meals then ;) Jun 19 21:23:38 I'm regulary eating there with islam ;) Jun 19 21:23:47 when are you in helsinki next time? Jun 19 21:24:13 not sure ... hopefully 29th Jun 19 21:24:51 he. I'll leave on 28th Jun 19 21:24:55 depends if Ramez gets his finger out and approves the kickoff for this 'new team' Jun 19 21:24:57 gah Jun 19 21:25:03 mmm Jun 19 21:25:23 can you stretch a day? assuming you're part of the new team Jun 19 21:26:24 not really... I'll have a meeting with ramez and jussi on monday, and pick up my girlfriend from the airport tuesday, and go back Jun 19 21:26:36 np Jun 19 21:26:47 Islam isn't in Hel then either Jun 19 21:27:00 we should schedule something for his return Jun 19 21:27:11 nope, will be back end of july Jun 19 21:28:42 ah well Jun 19 22:25:18 man building a kernel takes forever on a netbook Jun 19 22:25:48 I'm gonna have to build a VM for meego on my macbook pro Jun 19 22:26:13 takes 50 minutes on a 1.7GHz single core centrino Jun 19 22:26:28 10 or less on a quad core i5 @ 2.4GHz Jun 19 22:26:53 that should give you an estimate :p Jun 19 22:53:37 BlueAidan: Make sure to do `make -j2` or `make -j3` :-) Jun 19 22:53:54 BlueAidan: Yes, it does take a long time. Jun 19 22:54:41 gabrbedd: success Jun 19 22:54:45 touchscreen now works Jun 19 22:54:58 BlueAidan: Sweet! Jun 19 22:55:07 :) Jun 19 22:56:19 should I try to remove that quirk from the bootline / xorg config? or do you think those bits are required? Jun 19 22:57:20 I can't get the meego menu to drop down using just the touchscreen tho Jun 19 22:57:33 BlueAidan: Yeah, I would remove it. Jun 19 22:57:43 k Jun 19 22:57:53 BlueAidan: Netbook? You have to very carefully get your finger up to pixel 0 at the top Jun 19 22:58:18 BlueAidan: With practice, you can kind of slide up to it to get it to come down. Jun 19 23:03:10 gabrbedd: yeah, the touchscreen still works after removing that quirk from the boot line and the customized xorg config file Jun 19 23:12:05 hey Jun 19 23:24:28 hi Jun 19 23:24:33 .o/ Jun 19 23:24:50 anibody to help run meego on the beagleboard Jun 19 23:24:57 ? Jun 19 23:25:10 http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_on_the_Beagle Jun 19 23:25:27 im at the OMAP beagleboard.org # prompt Jun 19 23:25:34 i paste the first line Jun 19 23:25:39 bootcmd=if mmc init; then if run loadbootscript; then run bootscript; else if run loaduimage; then run mmcboot; else run nandboot; fi; fi; else run nandboot; fi Jun 19 23:25:46 i get Jun 19 23:25:49 syntax error Jun 19 23:26:26 i want to run meego IVI Jun 19 23:27:22 most of the european developers will be in bed at the moment Jun 19 23:29:23 how long 'til they awake ? Jun 19 23:29:37 they'd be UTC+2 Jun 19 23:29:55 assuming they'd be online at 9am, about 8 hours Jun 19 23:31:26 Many won't be around till 6PM or so local time - which would be another 18 hours or so Jun 19 23:31:59 SpeedEvil: most are online at work Jun 19 23:32:08 true Jun 19 23:32:22 beats doing work I suppose Jun 19 23:32:34 speaking of work, anyone know how to use ansys software? Jun 19 23:46:14 night Jun 20 00:53:26 Hi,could i use bootmenu-n900 instead uboot on my phone to get multi-boot ? Jun 20 00:55:18 i mean, i don't know if it's old or anything like... Jun 20 02:12:15 this is one of those times i wish i was still using a cross compilation environment instead of compiling directly on ExoPC... Jun 20 02:12:45 seems like it's slower than the lenovo s10-3t Jun 20 02:13:36 gee sudo init 3 seemed to perk it right up Jun 20 02:14:00 recompiling qt-mobility 1.2 from source gets a little old Jun 20 02:19:08 sad exopc has 2G and linux only accesses less than 1G (Re: "Warning only 895MB will be used." in /var/log/messages) Jun 20 02:20:15 npm: that's a meego thing for some good reason that I forget at the moment Jun 20 02:24:31 yes, it's a kernel compile option Jun 20 02:24:59 the addressing is probably faster within the 1G that way Jun 20 02:25:01 alongside the two other needed ones to allow sandboxed browsers to work Jun 20 02:26:28 well it's not very fast running the meego-ux and a compile at the same time. Jun 20 02:26:44 the x86 addressing modes are not what you would design if you didnt have to worry about backward compatibiliry Jun 20 02:27:22 but yeah when the 1G isn't enough and you start swapping, that's going to hurt Jun 20 02:30:41 for those of you who complain that x86 sucks Jun 20 02:30:45 .. Jun 20 02:30:59 well, it finished compiling so i'll stop complaining :-) Jun 20 02:31:03 be glad that the chip that x86 was put into production "instead of" Jun 20 02:31:07 didn't hapen Jun 20 02:31:12 (The Intel IAPX432) Jun 20 02:31:25 no i'm just saying some things are more constrained than a fresh design would be Jun 20 02:31:28 ;) Jun 20 02:31:31 yesterday, i was doing the same thing on the s10-3t, and noticing how snappy it was doing all the usual stuff Jun 20 02:31:35 but that was on netbook ux Jun 20 02:31:48 and it has a very fast intel SSD Jun 20 02:32:02 i remember the iapx432, it had some really interesting stuff Jun 20 02:32:20 so i've made that my compile box. except yesteday, the thing i compiled on it wouldn't run on the tablet Jun 20 02:32:35 so now i'm back to compiling on tablet to understand what broke Jun 20 02:35:39 dont run any ux when compiling big things, just init 3 Jun 20 02:36:05 while you still can, its something else with systemd :P Jun 20 02:36:12 yep, tha'ts what i just did. Jun 20 02:37:14 i guess there's no point in putting in a 2G of memory in the S10-3t tho... Jun 20 02:38:06 oh i dont know, if meego devices that are actually sold will have more than 1G, this will go away Jun 20 02:38:36 will happen eventually, whether its needed or not Jun 20 02:39:02 well i shouldn't have to compile mobility, or qt-sdk... but for some reason meego is shipping old versions of mobility when 1.2 final has been released Jun 20 02:40:08 so i've decided to install qt sdk 1.1.1 and qt mobility 1.2 on all my platforms (incl meego) so they can be bug-for bug compatible Jun 20 02:40:25 sounds like a lot of work Jun 20 02:42:39 well it's more work trying to figure out why sometyhing you just got working stopped working... hopefully by the time this becomes an "app" it'll all be sorted out Jun 20 02:43:20 as shipping your own copy of the latest qt mobility isn't exactly winning. Jun 20 02:47:00 unless you ship your own hardware, what are you going to ship it for ? Jun 20 02:47:28 I mean sure, you want to be ready when the commercial devices appear Jun 20 02:48:25 i'm hoping to put an app up in appup Jun 20 02:48:52 and then hoping there will be a market where appup is available Jun 20 02:48:55 right, then you have to be prepared to use what the commercial guys install Jun 20 02:49:23 yep, and by then hopefully meego will be shipping the released qt mobiluty Jun 20 02:49:32 they probably won't let you update libraries, because of compliance Jun 20 02:49:53 well then i'll file a bug Jun 20 02:50:10 so if they ship with libFoo v 1.1.99, you can't use libFoo 1.2, most likely Jun 20 02:50:36 well by the time any of this materializes it'll be what, meego 1.3? 1.4? Jun 20 02:50:38 but you're right to use a consistent environment, then you know what you're dealing with Jun 20 02:51:19 especially with as large a codebase as qtmobility, qt, and qml underneath you Jun 20 02:51:27 somebody will ship 1.3 I think Jun 20 02:53:01 but that's a guess Jun 20 02:53:31 1.3 is october or something ? Jun 20 02:54:08 i hope.. in the meantime, the spiffy new qtcreator 1.2 i just installed seems to be doing the right thing... i'll just let it build me both "qt in path" and also the 4.7.3 from sdk 1.1.1 Jun 20 02:55:42 the latter gives the missing "qtconfig" in meego **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jun 20 02:59:57 2011