**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 28 02:59:58 2011 Jun 28 03:05:48 Bruns: if vmware has 3d/GL passthrough, yes Jun 28 03:07:36 thanks sofar Jun 28 03:55:52 anybody know of a meego automount daemon? (Desired behavior... plug in device and it's immediately mounted to something like /media/disk) Jun 28 03:56:19 IIRC, mutter/Netbook has something like it... but I need something console-ish. Jun 28 03:56:24 morning Jun 28 03:56:33 timoph: Hi timo! Jun 28 03:56:37 gabrbedd: o/ Jun 28 03:56:46 working late? Jun 28 03:56:52 as usual. Jun 28 03:56:54 :) Jun 28 03:57:02 up early? Jun 28 03:57:04 7am here Jun 28 03:57:05 yep Jun 28 03:57:13 already at work Jun 28 03:57:44 * timoph is about to do a dirty hack Jun 28 03:57:52 * gabrbedd looks the other way Jun 28 03:57:56 :) Jun 28 03:58:50 I'm adding a few lines to the test automation configuration package that patches root's environment so that root can access X and session bus Jun 28 04:00:28 nice :-) Jun 28 04:01:28 yep. helps to run a lot more tests with automation Jun 28 04:02:14 * timoph tried to convince devs to use su - meego -c "test-case" but failed Jun 28 04:05:57 gabrbedd: udisks --mount /dev/s{dgr}etc.. Jun 28 04:07:09 timoph: with systemd, all that will be history, and your ssh sessions will share session bus/consolekit etc. Jun 28 04:07:19 sofar: cool Jun 28 04:07:23 export DISPLAY=:0 ; runstuff Jun 28 04:07:30 should actually work in 1.2 already too Jun 28 04:07:35 haven't looked into systemd yet Jun 28 04:07:41 looks like I should Jun 28 04:07:53 consolekit is the magic, and that should be fine in 1.2 Jun 28 04:08:08 just ssh as normal user instead of root, and export DISPLAY Jun 28 04:08:53 that's one of the problems since the tools don't know do the tests need to executed as root or as normal user Jun 28 04:10:43 can't you make 2 test suites? Jun 28 04:10:47 one for root.... Jun 28 04:10:54 seems such a logical solution :) Jun 28 04:11:02 sofar: thanks! Do you know if udisks can detect that someting was plugged in... and "do the right thing" ? Jun 28 04:11:34 sofar: yep but that needs some changes to the test-definition and tools anyway Jun 28 04:11:40 gabrbedd: automounting requires a daemon. there's a few implementations around, but none are in meego as a standalone part I think Jun 28 04:12:16 ok, thanks. Jun 28 04:12:44 iirc I filed a FEA about adding support for things like that Jun 28 04:12:54 before 2/11 Jun 28 04:14:00 ha! how come I haven't seen the connection between 9/11 and 2/11 before Jun 28 04:14:38 911 emergency number in US, 112 emergency number in Finland :D Jun 28 04:16:34 anyway.. we need to patch thing that way now. Let's see if we change the way it works later Jun 28 04:42:15 * sofar announces devel:xfce has all the latest components! Jun 28 04:42:23 \o/ Jun 28 04:42:52 is there some image that's using xfce by default? Jun 28 04:43:39 not publically, no Jun 28 04:43:52 some people are building personal and testing images Jun 28 04:43:59 not that hard to do, acutally Jun 28 04:44:08 ok Jun 28 04:44:37 should be an interesting experiment to do Jun 28 04:44:41 * dm8tbr is happy to host whatever images as long as they come with a kickstart file and don't contain problematic closed source Jun 28 04:45:34 timoph: easy enough: take a netbook .ks file, take out netbook groups, add @xfce and @xfce-applications groups, and you're almost done. Just need to set xfce4-session the startup process in uxlaunch sysconfig file Jun 28 04:46:23 sofar: thanks Jun 28 06:03:58 does nokia will send a fail e-mail to losers? ;-) Jun 28 06:07:01 Only if they can't properly use English grammar. Jun 28 06:07:30 grammar nazi detected Jun 28 06:07:36 ;-P Jun 28 06:07:51 rough day, I apologize ;) Jun 28 06:11:10 :-) Jun 28 06:11:46 sofar: i'll do my best to improve english Jun 28 06:12:41 I was excited to get an email from @nokia.com yesterday. Jun 28 06:12:47 Then I realised it was just spam. Jun 28 07:03:19 Hello! How do I add an "X" close button to a QDialog in Meego? Jun 28 07:08:42 morning Jun 28 08:01:29 X-Fade: hi, anderco told me that you can grant me access to the public OBS API for the osc tool? Jun 28 08:01:49 X-Fade: https://api.pub.meego.com Jun 28 08:47:35 Stskeeps|holiday, did you see that my meegotouch-qt-style solution was resolved as invalid ... as package will be removed ... they are really trying to annoy as most as they can developpers ! Jun 28 08:48:25 lcuk: Your N8 arrived? Jun 28 08:48:31 lcuk: hope mine does soon :P Jun 28 08:49:11 alterego,lcuk: folks, you are getting a wrong phone =) Jun 28 08:49:35 RST38h: I want to target all Qt devices :P Jun 28 08:49:53 RST38h: and the N8 will make a good media player / recorder :P Jun 28 08:53:01 alterego, you can't target all Qt Device ... too much api framentation at the moment Jun 28 08:53:13 s/framentation/fragmentation Jun 28 08:55:02 RST38h, who said I was getting a single phone? I have use case which involves testing on various existing devices Jun 28 08:55:29 250? Jun 28 08:55:53 alterego, yes by the way Jun 28 08:56:38 khertan_: rubbish, I can target all of 'em :P Jun 28 08:56:47 It might not be pretty, but it should get prettier .. Jun 28 08:56:58 helsinki meetup reminder came through Jun 28 08:57:20 lcuk: I'm kinda paranoid that I may have already missed the delivery :/ Jun 28 08:57:27 Like, yesterday or something Jun 28 08:57:30 you would have a piece of paper Jun 28 08:57:33 alterego, n810 have 4.5, palm pre have 4.6, n900 have 4.7 with broken QML, n9 have QML with broken Qt Jun 28 08:57:37 But I guess ours were hopefully sent at the same time. Jun 28 08:57:55 otoh, you asked for a C5 as well, where as I did not. Jun 28 08:58:07 So yours may have taken slightly longer to process :( Jun 28 08:58:59 What I need is a tracking number ;) Jun 28 09:01:52 the n8 has facial tracking Jun 28 09:02:12 hi all Jun 28 09:02:39 lcuk: sweet, what colour is yours? Jun 28 09:04:16 lcuk: n9 too Jun 28 09:05:01 lcuk: also, did you get the C5 or the C5-03? Jun 28 09:05:38 03 Jun 28 09:05:51 Cool Jun 28 09:05:56 Why did you want that one? Jun 28 09:06:03 lcuk: What're you planning on playing with it for? Jun 28 09:06:09 alterego resistive Jun 28 09:06:18 Ooooooooo ... Jun 28 09:06:23 (makes sense) :) Jun 28 09:08:03 SpeedEvil, media sync is one part of it, my apps are the other Jun 28 09:08:14 Ah Jun 28 09:08:39 Can you really do a sane 'suite' on symbian? Jun 28 09:08:53 you can do anything if you put your mind to it. Jun 28 09:10:27 When it comes to what I want to do with devices, and I imagine the same with lcuk, all we need is the right hardware, wifi, bluetooth, gps, touch screens, etc. Jun 28 09:10:45 Then with Qt, which is on pretty much all these devices, we can atay mostly cross-platform. Jun 28 09:10:54 ~stay Jun 28 09:10:55 woof Jun 28 09:11:00 Heh Jun 28 09:11:55 I've got a QML enigma right now, it's annoying me .. Jun 28 09:32:58 'morning meego Jun 28 09:34:05 morning niala Jun 28 09:55:22 groaninggg Jun 28 09:56:09 Heh Jun 28 10:03:09 nice reply from kate on that roadmap thread Jun 28 10:23:00 is there a repo of meego 1.0 packages available anywhere? Jun 28 10:23:08 I need to build a softfp image Jun 28 10:24:53 smoinen, http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.0/netbook/repos/source/ etc? Jun 28 10:25:39 alterego, the capacitive screen on the n9(50) - we know the output is high resolution, but is the capacitive layer technology than existing screens? Jun 28 10:25:44 oh damn Jun 28 10:25:51 -alterego, it is a general question Jun 28 10:25:57 :) Jun 28 10:26:20 I don't know what kind of resolution the capacitive screen is capable of doing, I guess we'll have to wait and see :/ Jun 28 10:26:57 not really Jun 28 10:27:32 Maybe if you came up with a test app, we could get someone that has one to test it? ;) Jun 28 10:27:34 * lcuk tries to suss out how to get qt app running Jun 28 10:28:04 lcuk: who delivered your package this morning? (courier) Jun 28 10:28:16 i think his name was jim Jun 28 10:28:52 Hah Jun 28 10:28:57 Company :P Jun 28 10:29:05 no, he was on his own Jun 28 10:29:13 Oh, interesting Jun 28 10:29:24 he might have had someone in the van with him Jun 28 10:29:27 Did you package not have "DHL" or anything printed on it? Jun 28 10:29:46 but i don't know which courier it was - i got the parcel delivered to my bed Jun 28 10:30:02 so courier was "tracy" Jun 28 10:30:47 can qt creator publish/deploy to multiple devices at the same time? Jun 28 10:30:55 ie make code Jun 28 10:30:59 press run Jun 28 10:31:15 and have it show up on my n900-ce, n8, c5, n950 Jun 28 10:31:41 lol no Jun 28 10:32:10 Heh, no :) Jun 28 10:32:29 ali1234, why "lol" Jun 28 10:32:43 it is serious thing I have pondered how to do since I started Jun 28 10:32:55 because the deployment methods aren't even a tiny bit the same Jun 28 10:33:02 i first asked this question with my pair of n810s Jun 28 10:33:11 and apptrk is a pile of poo Jun 28 10:33:13 but, but, but this is all qt Jun 28 10:33:26 and madde isn't much better but at least it... actually works Jun 28 10:34:02 really really need to find a sane deployment mechanism for speed Jun 28 10:34:08 there is none Jun 28 10:34:16 source distribution could work Jun 28 10:34:20 building a package and sending it to the device for installation is never going to be fast Jun 28 10:34:25 if only qt compilation was fast Jun 28 10:34:33 the compilation is not slow Jun 28 10:34:39 meh ali1234 - c liq* stuff compiles in seconds on n810 Jun 28 10:34:50 it is building the rpm/sis and transfering it to the device, so that the device can unpack it that is slow Jun 28 10:35:01 Qt apps build in seconds too Jun 28 10:35:03 ali1234, compilation *is* slow Jun 28 10:35:16 self compiling basically a hello world in qt takes over a minute Jun 28 10:35:34 well, not for me Jun 28 10:35:40 c++ templates and headers and qt stuff Jun 28 10:35:49 what are you compiling on device? Jun 28 10:36:05 I'd like to see a Symbian OBS target ;) Jun 28 10:36:09 me too Jun 28 10:36:25 lcuk: your question seems to be missing a punctuation Jun 28 10:36:32 is this right way of including INCLUDEPATH +=/usr/lib/madde/linux-i686/sysroots/meego-core-ia32-madde-sysroot-1.2.0-fs/usr/include/QtServiceFramework in .pro file Jun 28 10:36:42 bkalinga: no Jun 28 10:36:53 ali1234, what are you compiling on device? Jun 28 10:37:15 i'm not compiling anything "on device" because i didn't even know there is qt creator for n900 Jun 28 10:37:27 you asked about deployment Jun 28 10:37:33 bkalinga: you need: CONFIG += mobility Jun 28 10:37:37 if you are compiling on the device there is no need for deployment Jun 28 10:37:46 bkalinga: and: MOBILITY += serviceframework Jun 28 10:37:47 alterego: i have CONFIG += mobility MOBILITY = serviceframework but qtcreator not finding the required Headers Jun 28 10:38:10 bkalinga: is your target set to the correct "MeeGo blah" target? Jun 28 10:38:11 ali1234, you said that qt apps build in seconds? do you use the n900 or similar device itself to do any kind of qt compilation task? Jun 28 10:38:12 so i have done this manually but dont like this Jun 28 10:38:24 lcuk: what does that have to do with it? Jun 28 10:38:48 this is very unportable code.. but not able to figure out how can i do this Jun 28 10:38:54 ali1234, if on device compilation were fast and efficient, it is practical to just send source over and "make; make install" ;) Jun 28 10:39:18 lcuk: compiling on the device is not innefficient. it is slow because the device is slow Jun 28 10:39:32 sigh Jun 28 10:39:35 it's fast enough, I don't have any meego development environment on my laptop Jun 28 10:39:44 alterego: in chrooted env everything works but in using meego-sdk-qtcreator on my host machine it does not work Jun 28 10:39:53 deploying from a PC is not slow because compiling is slow. it is slow because building a rpm/sis is an innefficient way of deploying Jun 28 10:40:08 i don't understand why you have a problem seeing this Jun 28 10:40:12 ali1234: and .deb it really pissed me off when they added that step Jun 28 10:40:19 I can understand why, it's just annoying. Jun 28 10:40:30 alterego: yes, deb was no better in this respect Jun 28 10:40:39 afair it used to have an option to copy binaries directly, did they remove that? Jun 28 10:40:42 (at least for maemo) Jun 28 10:40:46 ali1234, I have a problem because historically for me the biggest difference in performance comes from compilation Jun 28 10:40:57 w00t: they removed it, then I heard they added it back again Jun 28 10:41:02 w00t: so it might be an option now Jun 28 10:41:04 * alterego checks Jun 28 10:41:07 because of having to compile multiple versions of the same thing - obs's job Jun 28 10:41:11 * w00t personally doesn't use creator for deployment Jun 28 10:41:42 lcuk: compiling is about 5% of the time required to deploy an app from qt creator to symbian or maemo Jun 28 10:41:49 do you think qt creator is developed inside qt creator Jun 28 10:41:50 from when you click "run" Jun 28 10:41:55 lcuk: it is Jun 28 10:42:00 i know for a fact that it is Jun 28 10:42:02 ali1234, i press up arrow in a console window Jun 28 10:42:05 a large proportion of Qt is developed in creator too Jun 28 10:42:49 ali1234, so I am asking the question of why we cannot use on device compilation and installation Jun 28 10:42:55 and completely remove the packaging bit Jun 28 10:43:10 you can Jun 28 10:43:23 but qt-creator is not intelligent enough to pick correct include path when you use CONFIG += mobility MOBILITY = serviceframework Jun 28 10:43:39 well compilation speed in the minute range for helloworld is a bit of a limiation Jun 28 10:43:52 if there are c compilers (like tinycc) which can compile 10x faster than gcc Jun 28 10:43:53 Doesn't look like it does direct binary copying, though you could mock one up using a custom "run" profile. Jun 28 10:43:55 lcuk: what are you compiling on? Jun 28 10:43:57 I did that .. Jun 28 10:43:58 if similar could be done for c++ Jun 28 10:43:58 necause the device is slow Jun 28 10:44:02 w00t, anything Jun 28 10:44:06 ali1234, tush Jun 28 10:44:13 i have been doing on device compilation for years Jun 28 10:44:18 this is a c++/qt issue Jun 28 10:44:27 why don't you try to optimize the part that is actually slow? Jun 28 10:44:28 lcuk: what does hello world take a minute on, and where is your hello world? Jun 28 10:44:50 w00t, MohammadAG made a quick simple qt test app and timed it, hold on Jun 28 10:44:55 by, instead of building a full rpm, just make it transmit only the binary Jun 28 10:45:30 ali1234, logic inside the qt creator needs to change Jun 28 10:45:39 because if you change one of the assets in your package Jun 28 10:45:47 which for qml apps happens often Jun 28 10:45:54 then you cannot just retransmit the binary Jun 28 10:46:03 because the pictures and bits that are not compiled Jun 28 10:46:05 will be stale Jun 28 10:46:10 you can if your qml assets are accessed through qrc:// Jun 28 10:46:16 because then they are all compiled in Jun 28 10:46:21 or doesn't that work for qml? Jun 28 10:46:25 the point being that is not the case Jun 28 10:46:35 it should be Jun 28 10:46:42 patches welcome! Jun 28 10:46:45 i hate apps that splatter random text files all over the place Jun 28 10:46:48 it does work, ali1234 Jun 28 10:46:56 my open mediaplayer takes 3 mins to compile on device Jun 28 10:47:22 MohammadAG: what device, and what media player? Jun 28 10:47:23 vs 30 seconds to compile, and then 2 minutes to package and deploy from qt creator? Jun 28 10:48:33 can someone please tell me why QtCretor is picking QtCore from -I/usr/lib/madde/linux-i686/sysroots/meego-tablet-ia32-madde-sysroot-1.2.0.90.0.20110517.1-fs/usr/include/qt4/QtCore and QtMobility from -I/usr/include/QtMobility Jun 28 10:48:46 same also happening for -I/usr/include/QtServiceFramework Jun 28 10:48:57 w00t, N900, http://gitorious.org/qt-mediaplayer Jun 28 10:49:32 make -j2 helps a lot, that way the compiler can go on while the other make process waits for IO Jun 28 10:50:31 forward declarations would probably help you a lot Jun 28 10:50:47 as would avoiding things like #include (freqpickselector.h) Jun 28 10:51:28 w00t, afaik that was Venemo, I don't do that Jun 28 10:51:34 in fact I always avoid it Jun 28 10:51:41 yuh, just noting Jun 28 11:00:26 bkalinga: all i can tell you is it's because that's what is in the library paths for your toolchain settings Jun 28 11:01:32 ok ali1234: due to that i need to have INCLUDEPATH +=/usr/lib/madde/linux-i686/sysroots/meego-core-ia32-madde-sysroot-1.2.0-fs/usr/include/QtServiceFramework in .pro file Jun 28 11:01:43 which is very ugly and unportable Jun 28 11:01:51 due to what? Jun 28 11:02:38 you can set these things at the target/toolchain level Jun 28 11:02:48 instead of in the project Jun 28 11:03:12 don't have any idea where to set Jun 28 11:03:35 i am using MeeGo1.2 sdk along with Madde Jun 28 11:03:52 and using meego-sdk-qtcreator Jun 28 11:04:08 seems customized for MeeGo/Madde Jun 28 11:04:36 ali1234: any pointer where to look at for this change? Jun 28 11:04:48 in preferences Jun 28 11:05:28 UPS van just arrived Jun 28 11:05:35 A UPS VAN JUST ARRIVED! Jun 28 11:05:37 http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qtcreator-snapshot/creator-tool-chains.html Jun 28 11:05:47 bkalinga: have a look at that ^ Jun 28 11:05:48 donot see preferences in my qt-creator Jun 28 11:05:58 i don't have qt creator installed on this machine, installing it now Jun 28 11:06:09 ok Jun 28 11:06:10 Not for me :( Jun 28 11:07:17 alterego: dhl. Jun 28 11:08:31 * alterego sighs Jun 28 11:08:34 * alterego continues waiting Jun 28 11:11:21 i have Qt Creator 2.1.0 Based on Qt 4.7.2 (32 bit) Built on May 14 2011 at 03:21:42 but don't find Tools > Options->Tool Chains. Tool Chains is not there Jun 28 11:12:00 I wish she'd emailed me a tracking number, think I'm gonna risk it and have a shower in a moment. Jun 28 11:12:25 byou haven't showered since hearing about parcel? Jun 28 11:12:51 lol Jun 28 11:13:04 I've not showered in 2 weeks! Jun 28 11:13:07 I'm just kidding Jun 28 11:13:22 I would have done it already, but you said you'd got your delivery this morning so I thought I'd wait :P Jun 28 11:13:39 But now I smell like a hobo and I can't stand it, especially after last night sweating my ass off in my sleep. Jun 28 11:21:13 are you getting N950 through other means? or is this for exopc? lol Jun 28 11:21:59 I have an exopc, this is for an N8 and a nice Qt bok Jun 28 11:22:01 ~book Jun 28 11:22:01 Asterisk: The Definitive Guide, 3rd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51734-3) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596517342. Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and is available for reading online at http://ofps.oreilly.com/titles/9780596517342/, or ~buybook Jun 28 11:22:09 ah Jun 28 11:22:16 Not that book though Jun 28 11:59:45 bkalinga: i have tools->options Jun 28 12:00:32 i installed vanilla qt creator though... 2.1.0 / 4.7.2 Jun 28 12:19:29 ali1234: i have also i have tools->options Jun 28 12:19:48 but tool chain is not there as u earlier mentioned Jun 28 12:19:58 ok, well then you want to go to "qt4" and "qt versions" Jun 28 12:20:03 and make sure it is all correct Jun 28 12:20:16 yeah everything is corect Jun 28 12:20:26 i can create a simple app and run it Jun 28 12:20:46 problem comes when i try to use CONFIG += mobility MOBILITY = serviceframework Jun 28 12:21:30 the Make file QtCreator generates refer to /usr/include/Qserviceframework Jun 28 12:21:35 which is not there Jun 28 12:21:47 not sure then, it could be related to qmake Jun 28 12:22:06 do u have MeeGo1.2 SDK installed Jun 28 12:23:13 ali1234: Nokia MeeGo Harmatan uses dpkg as the package manager, any idea where would be the file that contains the repo list Jun 28 12:23:30 no idea sorry Jun 28 12:23:40 i don't use the sdks Jun 28 12:23:58 similar to /etc/zypp/repos.d/1.2-oss.repo Jun 28 12:24:11 ok Jun 28 12:25:55 got it /etc/apt/sources.list Jun 28 12:40:30 is it possible to install the last community release on a smaller sdcard? Jun 28 12:46:30 nusse, smaller than what? Jun 28 12:46:53 the image expands to 3.6gb or similar Jun 28 13:00:13 lcuk: the image contains a partitiontable so i guess i would need to adapt it Jun 28 13:40:12 I'm getting a lot of segfaults in tracker-extract Jun 28 13:40:22 its generating gigabytes of core files in /tmp Jun 28 13:42:09 BlueAidan what are you extracting? Jun 28 13:42:18 I have no clue Jun 28 13:42:24 I don't even want meego doing that Jun 28 13:50:55 I think I might have to redo it all: http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/columbus/columbus-qml-20110628-001.png Jun 28 13:51:04 It's looking very maemo5 :D Jun 28 13:51:51 alterego: what font is that? Jun 28 13:52:00 what would make it look more Harmattan ? Jun 28 13:52:07 Dunno, the default one QML uses in ubuntu Jun 28 13:52:19 berndhs: I'll let you know if/when I get a harmattan device :P Jun 28 13:52:36 ah, the 11.04 font Jun 28 13:52:40 It's not about making it look more Harmattan anyway, I want it to look unique but uniform across all platforms, symbian, maemo5, harmattan and MeeGo Jun 28 13:52:46 yeah someone should post some typical harmattan-looking apps Jun 28 13:52:50 special: no, the 10.10 font :P Jun 28 13:53:00 did they add that in 10.10? either way Jun 28 13:53:12 alterego: use a nixie-tube based font! Jun 28 13:53:13 11.04 is rubbish until teathering starts working .. Jun 28 13:53:33 I'm just using the default font for now, until I start testing it on devices. Jun 28 13:58:36 community office meeting starting in 5 minutes in #meego-meeting http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Meetings Jun 28 14:05:48 lcuk: still no delivery for me :( Jun 28 14:07:42 alterego, Quim says that they'll review the applications by the end of this weelk Jun 28 14:07:44 week* Jun 28 14:08:18 Venemo: I know Jun 28 14:08:39 I'm not talking about that btw Jun 28 14:08:46 I'm expecting a delivery Jun 28 14:08:52 But nothing to do with N9/50 Jun 28 14:08:54 what delivery? Jun 28 14:09:11 An N8 from the hactivate summit me and lcuk attended a couple of weekends ago Jun 28 14:09:34 His bundle arrived this morning, Jun 28 14:09:57 my bundle arrived on sunday night Jun 28 14:10:08 i got a phone in the post today though Jun 28 14:10:14 :) Jun 28 14:10:22 Oh you! :P Jun 28 14:10:39 the bundle came in inbundled portions ? Jun 28 14:10:45 Maybe the courier is driving from Mancester :P Jun 28 14:12:14 berndhs, based on tracys most recent facebook post, yeah Jun 28 14:12:27 Heh Jun 28 14:18:50 hey guys Jun 28 14:19:40 hi Texrat Jun 28 14:20:18 o/ lcuk Jun 28 14:20:19 Hey Texrat Jun 28 14:20:32 * alterego buys Texrat a beer Jun 28 14:20:37 Yes, that is a bribe Jun 28 14:20:48 ^_^ Jun 28 14:22:52 if only I was the one really making decisions... :D Jun 28 14:25:06 Texrat: then you'd be drunk all day! Jun 28 14:25:26 true dm8tbr Jun 28 14:25:36 your mission is to get qgil drunk Jun 28 14:25:39 Heh Jun 28 14:25:57 I'd rather he spend the time sifting through all the applications :) Jun 28 14:26:30 rejoice, a meego scope was born ! Jun 28 14:26:45 uh? Jun 28 14:26:56 what's a scope ? Jun 28 14:27:09 * Texrat thwacks achipa just for the fun of it Jun 28 14:27:16 well, defines, technically, but that's almost a scope :) Jun 28 14:27:37 ah, a macro Jun 28 14:27:50 heya Texrat Jun 28 14:28:01 so in a .pro file you can do contains(MEEGO_EDITION,harmattan): message(NuffSaid) Jun 28 14:28:07 \o MohammadAG Jun 28 14:28:24 alterego, beer isn't a bribe, get something more expensive :P Jun 28 14:28:33 achipa does that help your IFDEF problem? Jun 28 14:28:36 I already drunk all the sambuca .. Jun 28 14:29:02 achipa, is that as of now, or since the release of the SDK? Jun 28 14:29:22 Texrat: yes, it was an arduous fight but in the end I guess we out-bored the qt guys :) Jun 28 14:29:33 MohammadAG: as of now, will be in the next SDK update Jun 28 14:36:00 Still, achipa will that work in OBS? ... Jun 28 14:37:03 when MeeGo integrates a Qt version that is newer than the one in the harmattan SDK, I would think yes Jun 28 14:46:36 Hello, is this a good place to ask about obs? Jun 28 14:47:05 mcfrisk: Sure Jun 28 14:47:08 mcfrisk: best to just ask :) Jun 28 14:47:46 thanks, we have our own obs setup and building meego Jun 28 14:48:05 How to remove x86_64 builds completely? Jun 28 14:48:25 mcfrisk: Remove the scheduler. Jun 28 14:49:04 How :) Jun 28 14:50:11 From base repo configs we have removed x86_64 stuff but anytime a new project starts to use it, it gets x86_64 builds by default and they fail Jun 28 14:50:35 mcfrisk: You have it configure in your config: OBS_SCHEDULER_ARCHITECTURES Jun 28 14:51:52 mcfrisk: for obs-server Jun 28 14:53:14 thanks, we'll try now Jun 28 14:54:00 mcfrisk: Just ping me if you need any help. Jun 28 14:58:55 <_ivan__> Hi, I've set up a OBS private instance, but I can't see meego in the build targets. Any help appreciated. Jun 28 14:59:22 _ivan__: That is because you need to set that up yourself. Jun 28 15:00:46 why private instance? Jun 28 15:00:46 <_ivan__> X-Fade: So far I understand. I've followed stskeeps' insructions and imported project, then tried to add repository, but the build target does not show... Jun 28 15:01:06 _ivan__: Using the advance one? Jun 28 15:01:45 <_ivan__> X-Fade: as described here: http://wiki.meego.com/User:Stskeeps/10_easy_steps_to_a_local_OBS#Step_8:_Adding_a_build_target_to_your_home_project Jun 28 15:02:56 <_ivan__> jykae: Here are some general use cases: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_private_instance#Use_Cases Jun 28 15:04:21 slaine: You're forking mad! Jun 28 15:04:38 Jaffa: boom 'tish Jun 28 15:04:47 * Stskeeps|holiday wouldnt totally mind a name change, but then again we have stood together in face of serious challenges under the meego name Jun 28 15:04:47 Ithankyou Jun 28 15:05:01 Jaffa, Take my wife....please Jun 28 15:05:30 i'm actually more wondering when the governance gets updated so we know how meego looks like going forward Jun 28 15:05:31 Stskeeps|holiday: Hey! You should be enjoying nice weather and not lurking at your screen! Jun 28 15:05:39 X-Fade: i am doing both Jun 28 15:05:46 * gabrbedd votes to keep the name and drop the meegons. :-) Jun 28 15:06:05 I'm happy with the MeeGo name Jun 28 15:06:14 It's got a community behind it now Jun 28 15:06:14 Stskeeps|holiday: Still, then you are not enjoying fully :) Jun 28 15:06:26 yeah Jun 28 15:06:26 And it's taken a lot of shake ups as Stskeeps|holiday said Jun 28 15:06:33 I think it's an OK name... and we've invested a lot in it already. Jun 28 15:06:43 it has a lot different fvibe than moblin did Jun 28 15:06:48 Plus, I'm wearing my dubconf t-shirt atm Jun 28 15:08:11 However, I can understand the idea for a name change from the point of distancing the project from the Nokia abandoning saga. We got a lot of bad press with that Jun 28 15:08:39 slaine: Then you get something worse: "Formerly known as MeeGo" Jun 28 15:08:42 <_ivan__> Stskeeps: Any logs I can look at to see what's going on when adding OBS build target fails? Jun 28 15:08:45