**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jul 09 02:59:57 2011 Jul 09 03:42:18 anyone here know anything about how qt_metacall works and what its for? Jul 09 07:07:02 mood groaning Jul 09 07:35:16 Anyone else noticed that http links to gitorious repos don't work? Jul 09 07:35:36 ...damn these proxies Jul 09 07:55:49 luckily ssh socks proxy, socat and GIT_PROXY_COMMAND help Jul 09 08:43:18 hey anyone in here? Jul 09 08:43:25 just got a n950. playing around with it for the first time Jul 09 08:43:26 ssh'd in Jul 09 08:43:28 any suggestions Jul 09 08:43:32 for what i should investigate? Jul 09 08:43:36 reading dpkg --list righ tnow Jul 09 08:43:59 Did you try rm -rf / yet ? Jul 09 08:44:03 Just kidding. Jul 09 08:44:05 great one lso! Jul 09 08:44:09 write some opensource apps already Jul 09 08:44:13 i tried that but then i remembered i have to add Jul 09 08:44:17 --no-preserve-root Jul 09 08:44:20 :D Jul 09 08:44:21 im worrrrrrrrrkin on it Jul 09 08:44:26 :) Jul 09 08:44:34 i wish there was more striaght forward instructions for building the SDK from scratch Jul 09 08:44:37 i dont like these binary blobs Jul 09 08:44:47 and i'm on gentoo so my inclination is to write an ebuild to get it all sorted Jul 09 08:44:58 put lets see here Jul 09 08:45:01 im diggin round on the device Jul 09 08:45:03 its so cool Jul 09 08:45:09 its a fully fledged linux distro Jul 09 08:45:10 it even has... Jul 09 08:45:11 wget and Jul 09 08:45:13 imagemagick Jul 09 08:45:14 :-D Jul 09 08:45:24 :D Jul 09 08:45:34 but no rsync... Jul 09 08:45:40 alas Jul 09 08:45:42 i should build that Jul 09 08:45:55 does package management typically take place on the device? Jul 09 08:45:59 with regards to remote repos? Jul 09 08:46:09 apt-get install rsync Jul 09 08:46:31 hmm i wonder how i get root Jul 09 08:46:39 devel-su whats this do Jul 09 08:46:52 if only i knew the password Jul 09 08:47:04 don't know about additional repos, sorry Jul 09 08:47:04 probably a correct way to be doin this Jul 09 08:47:32 mcfrisk: do you have a meego device on it? any suggestions for where i should start poking around? cool stuff i should do? Jul 09 08:47:50 i picked it up this evening, went to a cafe and sat there workin through all the on-device functionality Jul 09 08:47:53 and now im at home with my laptop Jul 09 08:47:58 trying to learn this end Jul 09 08:48:12 no, sorry don't have any meego devices Jul 09 08:48:21 aaa okay Jul 09 08:48:24 Maemo? Jul 09 08:48:32 not even those, anymore Jul 09 08:48:34 seems to me this is basically a maemo device with a meego shell Jul 09 08:48:37 shucks how come? Jul 09 08:48:40 did your n900 break? Jul 09 08:48:54 nope, had to give it back to $COMPANY Jul 09 08:49:08 aaaa, shucks... the good ol' $COMPANY Jul 09 08:49:27 well if annnnnnnnnnnnyone in here has any suggestions for where my curosity would be best applied Jul 09 08:49:28 im all ears Jul 09 08:52:01 find / |less here i come i guess Jul 09 08:55:11 yea its basically maemo Jul 09 08:59:15 devel-su Jul 09 08:59:17 password rootme Jul 09 09:01:01 so root access works, but with what capabilities :) Jul 09 09:24:13 aaa Qt is a mess Jul 09 09:33:20 * Noobmonk3y_ blinks Jul 09 10:00:33 hi all, i have an exo pc with the meego 1.2 image on it. is there a newer image i should upgrade to yet? Jul 09 10:04:37 richmooore2: if you mean that image from february, then FFS yes! Jul 09 10:06:27 dm8tbr: i don't know which image it is - i was given the tablet on tue Jul 09 10:06:41 richmooore2: ah, so it has the OOTB image on it? Jul 09 10:06:53 OOTB? Jul 09 10:07:00 oh out of the box Jul 09 10:07:02 yes Jul 09 10:07:26 that's most likely the february image with the swype kbd Jul 09 10:07:34 http://wiki.meego.com/Devices/ExoPC#How_to_install_latest_MeeGo_Snapshot - try this Jul 09 10:07:36 yes, the kbd is swype Jul 09 10:08:14 dm8tbr: thanks Jul 09 10:08:32 hi, I had tried installing meego 1.2.90 image from repo.meego.com, the de-install script deleted the kernel image, and failed to install the kernel. now, I am unable to detect n900 using lsusb command, and consequently unable to flash Jul 09 10:08:37 er, the image is missing from the directory that links to Jul 09 10:09:11 richmooore2: ah, because it prolly points to 1.3 which fails to build images right now Jul 09 10:09:24 1.2.80 that's the 1.3 branch Jul 09 10:09:40 * lcuk grabs a trout from frals and whaps Noobmonk3y_ with it Jul 09 10:10:08 * Noobmonk3y_ is hungry after the mention of trout Jul 09 10:10:11 richmooore2: http://download.meego.com/snapshots/1.2.0.90.7.20110708.88/images/meego-tablet-ia32-pinetrail/ - wild guess Jul 09 10:10:23 dm8tbr: thanks Jul 09 10:10:41 Noobmonk3y_, how are you doing? did you signup to n950 program? Jul 09 10:11:32 lcuk: someone was telling me at the london meego meeting they thought you might be based in manchester, is that right? Jul 09 10:11:36 i'm very good thankyou! - back on buntu with the SDK - awaiting my N950! :) :) (Kathy prompted me!) - and was in batch 4 ! Jul 09 10:11:49 richmooore2, affirmative Jul 09 10:11:53 lcuk, is based globally ;) - he has a trout in every timezone Jul 09 10:11:54 lcuk: me too Jul 09 10:12:02 cool richmooore2 Jul 09 10:12:14 on the forum.meego.com site there is a thread for manchester meetups Jul 09 10:12:33 so add a note there and when we organise next one you will know about it Jul 09 10:12:41 lcuk, at the rate sunderland fc are taking manu players, are sunderland peeps invited to that meetup ;) hehehe Jul 09 10:12:50 lcuk: will do Jul 09 10:12:50 http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=2859 Jul 09 10:13:27 ooo lcuk talking of which at some point latrer in the summer, do you fancy a trip down dorset way, to meet up with Kathy? i think she wants to see a n950 :) Jul 09 10:13:32 Noobmonk3y_, the n950 has python available Jul 09 10:13:38 and i'll head sideways ;) Jul 09 10:13:43 Healthcheck should make for a nice app Jul 09 10:13:45 hehe lcuk gonna try qml :) Jul 09 10:13:46 is there a way to work around this ? the kernel modules are for 2.6.37-11.1-adaptation-n900 , but the kernel being used is 2.6.37-24.2 Jul 09 10:14:01 :) :) Jul 09 10:14:08 Noobmonk3y_, sounds like a good idea Jul 09 10:14:19 there are more meego devices though Jul 09 10:14:40 it does seem with every incarnation of the app, i have to learn something new, python, then C++ , then linux pretty much, so why not QML :P or at least use QT quick now Jul 09 10:14:42 I like the tablet form factor - my ideapad is great Jul 09 10:14:48 ahhh true.... Jul 09 10:14:57 in Barcelona when me and Kathy met for the first time Jul 09 10:14:59 i wonder if i could get meego on my hp 6730b? Jul 09 10:15:06 we were discussing getting some apps onto big form factors Jul 09 10:15:11 cool! Jul 09 10:15:22 when I got my ideapad with meego on it I found out it all was good :D Jul 09 10:15:41 would be great to make a healthcheck for all types... gonna need some serious planning! Jul 09 10:15:43 she thinks the theraputic effects are awesome Jul 09 10:15:46 lol! Jul 09 10:16:13 Noobmonk3y_, well qt principle is to code once, deploy anywhere Jul 09 10:16:25 so if you write it carefully that will be practical Jul 09 10:16:59 the qt-mobility library helps immensely Jul 09 10:17:07 true... that does mean i need to ensure it looks good on all though, and not just work Jul 09 10:17:34 is qt mobility fully working now, as every time i tried something on the n900 it failed, especially with audio etc Jul 09 10:17:43 Well, fully working on meego? Jul 09 10:18:03 anyone know where i might find the source tree of the n950 kernel? Jul 09 10:20:56 zx2c4, https://meego.gitorious.org/meego-os-base/kernel-source ? Jul 09 10:21:27 im looking for n950-specific drivers... Jul 09 10:21:32 Noobmonk3y_, yes, working well and looking good are important indeed Jul 09 10:21:38 oh sry Jul 09 10:21:44 no idea missed that part Jul 09 10:21:52 are these them in /patches? Jul 09 10:22:02 hmm Jul 09 10:22:04 these are drivers Jul 09 10:22:05 but Jul 09 10:22:06 hm Jul 09 10:22:35 hehehe Jul 09 10:22:37 happy hunting :P Jul 09 10:22:47 aye no lspci on the n950 Jul 09 10:28:55 lcuk, whats the best tool in ubuntu to create an png icon? (Or SVG, so i can use the icon creator for meego) Jul 09 10:29:34 inkscape is what nuno uses Jul 09 10:29:34 idk Noobmonk3y_ i rarely make icons Jul 09 10:29:37 have you tried gimp? Jul 09 10:29:42 meh will do :) - ty Jul 09 10:29:45 (for svg) Jul 09 10:29:58 have both :) - thanks :) Jul 09 10:30:22 does http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta/free/k/kernel/ not contain the kernel for the N950? Jul 09 10:30:26 kernel source that is Jul 09 10:31:46 woan Jul 09 10:31:49 jonwil: how on earth Jul 09 10:31:50 did you find Jul 09 10:31:51 this link Jul 09 10:31:52 omg Jul 09 10:31:53 dude Jul 09 10:31:53 wow Jul 09 10:31:55 how did you do this Jul 09 10:32:17 jonwil: you are a genius Jul 09 10:32:26 zx2c4, he clicked a few links ;) Jul 09 10:32:41 Noobmonk3y_, WHAT ICON ARE YOU MAKING? Jul 09 10:32:45 I already knew where the harmattan pool was Jul 09 10:32:47 -caps Jul 09 10:32:52 and I assumed the kernel source would be in it Jul 09 10:33:04 jonwil: how did you find the pool? ive been looking all over for it Jul 09 10:33:12 I Jul 09 10:33:14 i grepped for http in that python script off this subdomain Jul 09 10:33:16 I forget how I found it Jul 09 10:33:21 well, well done Jul 09 10:33:33 I am really an ass then -- I wrote a letter to sourcecode.request@nokia.com asking them ahaha Jul 09 10:33:56 it only counts as a letter if you used your handwriting. Jul 09 10:34:14 * rolls eyes * Jul 09 10:39:24 urgh who was it who created the meego icon creater, jaffa? Jul 09 10:39:37 lcuk, making healthcheck one :) Jul 09 10:39:54 ooh Jul 09 10:40:16 Noobmonk3y_, javispedro I believe Jul 09 10:40:35 ahhhh - now to find it, i remember all these things, but bookmarking 100 times a day gets messy :( Jul 09 10:42:20 Noobmonk3y_, Jul 09 10:42:20 Harmattan style icon/color generator ::: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=3714 Jul 09 10:42:29 thank me later :P Jul 09 10:43:21 thankeeee Jul 09 10:49:47 hi, I had tried installing meego 1.2.90 image from repo.meego.com, the de-install script deleted the kernel image, and failed to install the kernel. now, I am unable to detect n900 using lsusb command, and consequently unable to flash . is there a way to work around this ? the kernel modules are for 2.6.37-11.1-adaptation-n900 , but the kernel being used is 2.6.37-24.2 Jul 09 10:50:02 service centre is it ? Jul 09 10:58:10 richmooore2, try the wetab build on your ExoPc, its the most complete built at the moment Jul 09 10:58:23 http://appdeveloper.intel.com/en-us/blog/2011/07/07/creating-multi-boot-exopc-tablet Jul 09 11:33:50 hi all Jul 09 11:33:52 http://repository.maemo.org/meego/n900-de/archive/1.2.0.90.6.20110630.4.DE.2011-07-01.1/images/mg-handset-armv7nhl-n900-ce-stable/ Jul 09 11:34:09 what are the meaning of the *adaptation-n900 file here? Jul 09 11:34:58 and the meaning of *.ks file Jul 09 11:35:04 b Jul 09 11:35:42 the .ks is the kickstart file used to generate the image Jul 09 11:35:57 using mic2 Jul 09 11:37:37 and adaptation-n900? Jul 09 11:37:53 is it executable binary? Jul 09 11:38:30 i'm flashing to n900 Jul 09 11:38:40 i.e. i will be use meego on n900 Jul 09 11:40:46 for n900 just follow the wiki guide Jul 09 11:42:25 tip: zypper in udiskie, on latest tablet builds to get automounting of usb drives so tracker can find music and videos Jul 09 11:44:05 i'm entering mmcboot in U-boot cli, but it says unknown command Jul 09 11:44:13 why that can happen? Jul 09 11:45:32 vdv: just let it boot. mmc is default... Jul 09 11:45:47 and how can i boot maemo now? Jul 09 11:46:09 did you read the wiki page ffs? Jul 09 11:46:57 just remove the musd or 'run noloboot' Jul 09 11:47:25 ah, thanks a lot Jul 09 12:50:58 ffs, some websites are horrifically designed / coded Jul 09 12:56:25 CosmoHill: I'd go so far as to say, most ;) Jul 09 12:56:45 first time I've had to force close firefox in a while Jul 09 13:02:11 one of them is my football team's Jul 09 13:52:14 * CosmoHill watches good will hunting and compiles linux, yay for ssh Jul 09 13:56:01 :) Jul 09 13:58:09 CosmoHill, I just put that on iplayer Jul 09 13:58:46 sky+ Jul 09 13:59:49 I was going to do that too .. Jul 09 14:00:54 * alterego does that Jul 09 14:01:00 "Mat Damon" Jul 09 14:04:09 Oh that makes sense. Jul 09 14:04:22 Kevin Smith co produced it Jul 09 14:32:05 where are you two in the film? Jul 09 14:35:57 they are movie stars too ? Jul 09 14:40:04 I don't get it, who's in the film and why? Jul 09 14:42:13 three of us are watching the same film Jul 09 14:59:58 Stop watching the film, it is sunny outside. Jul 09 15:00:17 Go in the beergarden instead and sit in the shade. Jul 09 15:00:51 its raining here... Jul 09 15:01:16 Probably saying that just to excuse watching a film. Jul 09 15:01:36 Okay enough bad jokes. But I'm going to put my bad mouth to the test... Jul 09 15:02:02 ...and actually do it - remove myself from the network for a fresh walk and maybe a cool one. Jul 09 15:02:32 Have a nice film watching time everyone. See you. Jul 09 15:02:39 ;) Jul 09 15:03:55 beergarden? :D Jul 09 15:12:51 a garden made out of beer? are you mad? Jul 09 15:13:22 that reminds me, it's the beer festival next week Jul 09 15:56:04 X-Fade ping Jul 09 16:05:05 Jaffa: do you know whether I can build native debian packages for Harmattan target ? Jul 09 16:35:54 a bit of components trollin': http://achipa.blogspot.com/2011/07/qt-components-story-of-ugly-qwidgetling.html Jul 09 16:36:31 * achipa off to dinner and ignores the mayhem Jul 09 16:43:07 i don't know, calling QML a "technology" seems overstating it Jul 09 16:43:28 Questionable Markup Language? Jul 09 16:44:02 nothing wrong with QML, its just that people use "technology" for stuff that doesnt deserve the term these days Jul 09 16:52:14 * CosmoHill looks at the crap that is his CV Jul 09 16:53:18 that's very hard Jul 09 16:53:44 I've been updating one since highschool but now I'm starting new Jul 09 16:54:55 so basically what you're saying is QML isn't even *supposed* to be cross platform and I should just suck it up and write a whole interface from scratch for every single device? Jul 09 16:57:56 you can certainly write universal qml apps Jul 09 16:58:39 but considering the meego status bar and such are embedded into the window components, it'll always be 'fullscreen' Jul 09 16:59:00 I wouldn't call an app thats always fullscreen "universal" Jul 09 16:59:13 it wouldn't be on other platforms Jul 09 16:59:13 but what you can't do is write universal QML apps that look native on more than one platform Jul 09 16:59:17 just in meego Jul 09 16:59:34 ali1234, pretty much, atleast not atm Jul 09 16:59:54 maybe Qt Quick 2.0 Jul 09 17:00:09 if it isn't dead and buried before that happens :) Jul 09 17:00:47 it won't Jul 09 17:00:58 there's enough community interest in qt Jul 09 17:01:12 there is community interest in Qt Jul 09 17:01:16 not so much in QML Jul 09 17:01:28 unless you count the 10 or so people writing apps for meego with it Jul 09 17:01:40 well, true Jul 09 17:01:58 10 or so?-) Jul 09 17:02:14 the problem with QML as I see it is it forces you to spend extra coding time wrapping all your core functions into QObjects so that you can then spend extra coding time writing 3 versions of the UI Jul 09 17:02:15 oh i'm sure there's more than 10 Jul 09 17:02:40 which seems rather odd for something with "quick" in the name Jul 09 17:02:50 ali1234, that's not really a problem Jul 09 17:02:59 it's a problem for me Jul 09 17:03:22 I only see that as a problem if you have to adapt weird C code into it Jul 09 17:03:45 it's a problem if you are doing anything other than presenting some data you scraped from the web as a scrolly list Jul 09 17:04:01 heh Jul 09 17:04:01 QML is great if you are building an RSS reader Jul 09 17:04:14 I've written adapters to qml Jul 09 17:04:15 which is why 50% of all real QML apps so far are RSS readers, or some varition of thus Jul 09 17:04:21 it's easy Jul 09 17:04:39 try making a paint program or a word processor in QML Jul 09 17:04:49 I did make a paint program in qml ;P Jul 09 17:04:51 ebook reader isn't too hard either :) Jul 09 17:05:01 I wouldn't - QML is supposed to be a UI language for most parts as far as I know Jul 09 17:05:04 the paint area is a c++ component tho Jul 09 17:05:21 the real logic under the hood still needs to be C++ Jul 09 17:05:44 https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=CFPainter&project=home%3Avaltonen Jul 09 17:05:51 mind you, the package doesn't work Jul 09 17:05:51 * CosmoHill 's phone has stopped working Jul 09 17:05:57 there's a error in the build script Jul 09 17:06:22 and it uses a c++ base to use the qml, which some people wail that it's not qml Jul 09 17:07:02 but I did it that way so I wouldn't have to mess with the plugin paths for the component ;P Jul 09 17:07:52 or the qml files, they're all packaged into the executable Jul 09 17:11:58 some people want to load qml from arbitrary urls I think Jul 09 17:11:59 ali1234: as for the word processor thingie, Khertan tried and he's still complaining loudly about the process in his twitter feed =) Jul 09 17:16:44 is spectacle documented anywhere? I'm trying to figure out how to make a .spec from a .yaml, but its like alchemy Jul 09 17:18:00 achipa, n-tier fully object orientated apps would have multiple views onto the model tree anyway Jul 09 17:18:12 Currently he's using a widget proxy I believe to dump a qwidget into a qml scene, which isn't ideal ;) Jul 09 17:18:50 nice article :) Jul 09 17:28:23 hum Jul 09 17:28:43 * javispedro ponders if I could make a qml component that renders a x11 window/pixmap Jul 09 17:29:17 javispedro, sure you can Jul 09 17:29:32 but how would it interact with all of the scene transformations? Jul 09 17:29:47 as long as it's implemented in c++ ;P Jul 09 17:30:41 I don't think that's actually a problem Jul 09 17:31:10 because I've not said that I would like the pixmap not be downloaded from the server but be rendered directly ;) Jul 09 17:31:11 the problem I imagine would be in the the implementation details ;P Jul 09 17:31:13 and that's the impossible part =) Jul 09 17:31:25 what pixmap? Jul 09 17:31:34 and where from? Jul 09 17:31:45 assume it comes from another application Jul 09 17:31:56 you can draw a pixmap easily enough Jul 09 17:32:05 infact the paintapp I wrote does that Jul 09 17:32:24 it has a simple c++ component that you pass a QPixmap to Jul 09 17:33:17 but does it download it, do some transformations on it, and then render it again? or does it just call the server for that? Jul 09 17:33:30 cause it might be a large one Jul 09 17:33:36 oh.. you mean that Jul 09 17:33:51 I'm not sure Jul 09 17:34:43 http://pastebin.com/QzVHeWhN Jul 09 17:35:13 I guess it depends on what the QPainter does Jul 09 17:41:23 seems that the only way to check is to test it :) Jul 09 17:41:26 either way, that looks nice. Jul 09 18:01:57 * CosmoHill can get FMA on blu-ray :) Jul 09 18:28:00 yay my installer lets me boot into mutiuser :) Jul 09 18:34:12 if I bought a blu-ray drive for my desktop I'd need to spend more money getting software to play it Jul 09 18:35:17 i lost my blu-ray DVD, didn't make any difference with my crappy TV anyway Jul 09 18:35:59 * CosmoHill wonders why Argos is showing them a selection of DVD players when he search for "blu-ray" Jul 09 18:37:38 javispedro, the word processing part is now working ...but i didn't use native qml thing, i wrap a qtextedit in a qgraphicproxywidget Jul 09 18:38:00 anybode here experience with OBS? Jul 09 18:38:20 http://wiki.meego.com/Getting_started_with_OBS Jul 09 18:38:24 I am trying to build my first Harmattan package, but have some problems Jul 09 18:38:25 CaCO3, which aspect Jul 09 18:38:40 I read a lot of those pages Jul 09 18:38:50 javispedro, and the resulting widget is used to extend qml with a qdeclarativeitem Jul 09 18:38:53 I uploaded a tar.gz and wrote a spec file Jul 09 18:39:00 https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?blocked=0&building=0&dispatching=0&finished=0&pkgname=shedskin&project=home%3ACaCO3&scheduled=0&signing=0&succeeded=0 Jul 09 18:39:25 build fails with this error: "nothing provides g++, nothing provides libpcre3-dev, nothing provides libgc-dev, nothing provides python-dev" Jul 09 18:39:41 I would expect those are baislig packages which shoudl be available (at least g++) Jul 09 18:39:42 Khertan, :D Jul 09 18:40:06 CaCO3, your package should depend on build tools too Jul 09 18:40:34 in debian you need the build-depends Jul 09 18:40:36 * CosmoHill decides that blu-ray can go to hell Jul 09 18:41:17 thats not what I enter in "BuildRequires:" ? Jul 09 18:41:22 CaCO3: also you have to spell the package names right for the target Jul 09 18:41:45 which package name? Jul 09 18:42:02 the one of my package or the build depencies? Jul 09 18:42:10 things like g++, you have to know that that package is called Jul 09 18:42:14 the dependencise Jul 09 18:43:12 so I can not adapt it like the Build-Depends on Freematle) Jul 09 18:43:14 ? Jul 09 18:43:51 i dont know what the package names on Harmattan are Jul 09 18:43:54 fremantle :) Jul 09 18:44:09 where would I find them? somwhere in a repo list? Jul 09 18:44:25 yes :) Jul 09 18:44:39 i have no idea Jul 09 18:49:12 I also am confused about the requirement of a spec file; the doc sais I have to have one, but RzR950 build a lot of packages with a dsc file instead a spec file Jul 09 18:49:58 the meego targets need a .spec, I think harmattan needs .dsc Jul 09 18:50:29 graet :( so thats not even compatible? :( Jul 09 18:50:50 that depends on your definition of "compatible" Jul 09 18:50:55 IMHO it shouldnt be that hard to bring Maemo packages into the Harmattan builder! Jul 09 18:51:54 well, it's two different, incompatible packaging systems... Jul 09 18:52:07 well, Maemo->Harmattan, talk to Nokia Jul 09 18:52:54 is there any doc how a dsc file would have do be written? Jul 09 18:53:14 there probably is, but I don't know where, never tried it Jul 09 18:54:47 well, if nokia wants us to create apps for their store, they also will have to provide an easy way to build the packages Jul 09 18:55:01 else they will miss a lot of potential Jul 09 18:55:14 yeah, tell them that Jul 09 18:55:22 ;) Jul 09 18:57:48 CaCO3: check forum.meego.com, people are working on it. Jul 09 21:50:01 is it safe to uninstall U-boot? will maemo boot then correctly? Jul 09 22:00:53 vdv: you'll need some sort of boot loader Jul 09 23:04:29 ĺḿáó Jul 09 23:07:14 israel should be fucking nuked Jul 09 23:07:24 op, check please Jul 09 23:07:40 cunt Jul 09 23:08:17 where you from CosmoHill Jul 09 23:08:50 you dumb shit Jul 09 23:09:00 flattery will get you everywhere Jul 09 23:09:01 dont you know the TSA is a zionist invention Jul 09 23:09:08 from the evil Chertoff Jul 09 23:09:14 groping your granny Jul 09 23:09:23 suck it Jul 09 23:09:26 suck satanś cock Jul 09 23:09:35 you seem to have mistaken me for a whore Jul 09 23:09:42 hmm Jul 09 23:09:51 maybe you arent one Jul 09 23:10:28 but you give all indications of being a jew cock sucker Jul 09 23:11:12 the USA is in 6 jew wars right now Jul 09 23:11:18 lol Jul 09 23:11:21 fucktards Jul 09 23:11:33 pupnik, shut up!!! Jul 09 23:12:51 good morning Jul 09 23:15:42 apparently pupnik was a great man Jul 09 23:18:00 OH NOES Jul 09 23:18:36 PEOPLE WHO DONT LIKE MOTHERFUCKING JEWS Jul 09 23:18:39 WHAT SHALL WE DO??? Jul 09 23:18:42 suck more jew cock? Jul 09 23:18:45 yes! Jul 09 23:18:48 slurp slurp slurp slurp slurp Jul 09 23:18:49 slurp slurp slurp slurp slurp Jul 09 23:18:59 sigh Jul 09 23:19:24 follow us politics MohammadAG Jul 09 23:19:39 hillary clinton said that israel was ín their rights to defend themselves Jul 09 23:19:40 go to ##politics for that, not #meego Jul 09 23:19:44 from the aid ships to gaza Jul 09 23:19:54 there is no border to extortion and murder Jul 09 23:20:08 the motherfuckers are all over you Jul 09 23:20:16 /msg chanserv access #meego list Jul 09 23:20:17 and that is why we promote free software Jul 09 23:20:36 yeah totally, cause it changes politics Jul 09 23:20:43 pussy faggot docscrutinizer Jul 09 23:20:48 derEwigeJude: that's quite enough Jul 09 23:21:12 mquin, ops here seem pretty active Jul 09 23:21:28 mohammedag is a terrorist Jul 09 23:21:33 call in the drone strikes Jul 09 23:22:10 we decide who dies :D :D :D Jul 09 23:22:14 Stskeeps, X-Fade DawnFoster, care to deal with this? Jul 09 23:22:30 iĺl be quiet Jul 09 23:24:01 (slurp slurp slurp slurp slurp) Jul 09 23:25:16 * CosmoHill pokes w00t Jul 09 23:28:18 * CosmoHill should be getting a Sony W995 in a few weeks Jul 09 23:30:54 sony + meego? wtf? Jul 09 23:34:38 no no, just a sony Jul 09 23:35:17 I prefer candybar phones with the T9 keypad Jul 09 23:36:48 I was saying to my mate that the kids of today can't text in class cos they all have touch screens Jul 09 23:37:23 (can't text under the desk that is) Jul 09 23:37:55 pretty soon people who know how to type will be called geeks Jul 09 23:38:41 they actually teach kids how to type in schools now Jul 09 23:38:58 yeah but not for much longer :) Jul 09 23:40:03 I've had the book of faces for about two weeks now and nobody's commented on my use of grammar and full English Jul 09 23:40:25 then again I treat it as a very bloated email system at the back of some creepy room Jul 09 23:40:33 maybe they figure you for a foreigner Jul 09 23:40:36 you go in, check your email and leave as soon as possible Jul 09 23:40:59 I only have people I know in real life in my book...and chris Jul 09 23:46:13 i dont think there's picture of my face anywhere, other than official documents Jul 09 23:46:25 might be for the best Jul 09 23:46:51 yes have to be careful, I'm a stalking victim Jul 09 23:47:21 I only have one picture so people can see that it is me so they know they have the right guy Jul 09 23:48:07 pictures are also a good way to discrimintate by race, gender and age Jul 09 23:48:37 without looking at the staticis page Jul 09 23:49:47 the only people I have on facebook are my friends Jul 09 23:49:56 if I know you but think you're a dick I'm not going to add you Jul 09 23:50:05 well, them and the facebook company Jul 09 23:50:37 do you wanna see what my page looks like? Jul 09 23:51:02 i'm not really all that curious :) Jul 09 23:51:24 just get a blank bit of paper and write your name and stick a picture of yourself on it Jul 09 23:51:34 what's what it looks like Jul 09 23:51:55 yes leave room for creativity Jul 09 23:52:09 I also disabled my wall Jul 09 23:52:25 duno why it's called a wall, there's no bricks in it Jul 09 23:52:34 what sit for ? Jul 09 23:52:54 I duno but people get worked up about it Jul 09 23:53:26 i'm not much of a group guy Jul 09 23:53:28 one of my mates went "omg a girl wrote on X's wall" and I thought he actually meant wrote on his bedroom wall with felt tip pens Jul 09 23:53:46 yes Jul 09 23:54:04 but you are still open anused about the central banks Jul 09 23:54:14 oh I forgot you were here Jul 09 23:54:22 lol Jul 09 23:54:31 sorry girl Jul 09 23:55:03 fucking jews caused ww2 Jul 09 23:55:22 I think you may have that the wrong way around Jul 09 23:55:36 newp Jul 09 23:56:04 you are one of the millions of cattle who havent researched things Jul 09 23:56:11 to discover the terrible truth Jul 09 23:56:19 the motherfucking jews are the satanic race Jul 09 23:56:25 that is fucking up world history Jul 09 23:56:53 ah man, my reinstalled system gets a Kernel panic Jul 09 23:57:17 more maintenance Jul 09 23:57:21 berndhs: but it's a reinstall, meaning if it worked the first time I should work now Jul 09 23:57:31 yes but its an old machine Jul 09 23:57:35 ah Jul 09 23:57:39 say no more Jul 09 23:58:12 * CosmoHill has an idea Jul 09 23:58:29 I could create a shutdown script that dumps the uptime into a log file Jul 09 23:58:51 that would allow me to figure out the average uptime for a computer / server Jul 09 23:59:07 maybe its easier to grab it at boot time Jul 09 23:59:16 -.- Jul 09 23:59:22 that way you get crashes too Jul 09 23:59:31 oh you were being serious Jul 09 23:59:57 in that case it maybe better to log the boot and shutdown dates to Jul 10 00:00:22 last log knows all that, doesnt it ? Jul 10 00:02:57 aparantly low Jul 10 00:02:59 so* Jul 10 00:05:01 morning people Jul 10 00:05:05 hi jacekowski Jul 10 00:05:10 ok i'll swap the starting position of my boot and swap partition, maybe that will help Jul 10 00:05:13 i've heard that shit has got real here while ago Jul 10 00:05:41 anyone know how to remove a line with vim if it does NOT contain a word? Jul 10 00:05:49 dd Jul 10 00:05:58 dd Jul 10 00:06:04 I was thinking more like a search Jul 10 00:07:00 read the sed man page, soemthing with ^ and $ Jul 10 00:07:07 and white space in between Jul 10 00:07:42 :g!/reboot/d Jul 10 00:08:05 87 boots since 2006 :) Jul 10 00:12:56 I'm off to bed, night night Jul 10 00:13:03 cyas Jul 10 00:13:06 good night **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jul 10 02:59:58 2011