**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 11 02:59:56 2011 Jul 11 03:28:39 morning Jul 11 03:29:14 Perhaps. Jul 11 03:29:47 lots of time, more than 30 mins Jul 11 03:37:26 :O Jul 11 04:37:08 good moaning Jul 11 05:13:57 morning Jul 11 05:22:08 hi all, does anyone know where to download meego-development-tools(Meego 1.2), i think it is a group of rpms Jul 11 05:22:23 I'm trying to fix Lan and Wifi driver problmes in my Meego system, so I need these tools to compile drivers Jul 11 05:22:44 there's a "packaging-tools" package Jul 11 05:22:51 which has dependencies on a lot of things Jul 11 05:23:07 could be meego-packaging-tools Jul 11 05:28:46 http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.2.0/repos/oss/ia32/packages/noarch/meego-packaging-tools-0.6-1.1.noarch.rpm Jul 11 05:29:43 thanks, sofar Jul 11 05:30:10 beware, that rpm depends on a bunch of packages from ../i586/ Jul 11 05:30:55 OK Jul 11 05:31:28 you can see the dependencies here: Jul 11 05:32:24 http://tinyurl.com/6zbh4oy Jul 11 05:32:48 (and, the dependencies in there have further requirements...) Jul 11 05:36:29 yes, got it Jul 11 08:04:47 is there a workaround for mic2 and OBS repos with colons? Jul 11 08:04:55 I can't believe after more than a year that bug is still around Jul 11 08:06:18 what bug? Jul 11 08:09:59 Stskeeps, seems you can't add repos with colons in the URL Jul 11 08:11:11 ah Jul 11 08:11:16 i never had issues with that, i think Jul 11 08:17:06 Stskeeps, do you have an example ks with a repo.pub.meego.com URL? Jul 11 08:19:39 arfoll: repo --name=wayland-trunk --baseurl=http://download.meego.com/live/home:/cvm:/branches:/wayland-stuff/Trunk/ --save\ Jul 11 08:20:11 ~$ sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb Jul 11 08:20:26 * arfoll woops Jul 11 08:20:38 Stskeeps, thanks i'll try again Jul 11 08:21:25 wayland and lighthouse eh Jul 11 08:21:32 how well does that work?-) Jul 11 08:22:05 vvaltone: http://stskeeps.subnetmask.net/wayland/20110419_002.jpg Jul 11 08:22:28 sweet Jul 11 08:25:15 morning \o Jul 11 08:25:19 I guess the biggest issue with wayland is that on crashes you'll always loose the session Jul 11 08:27:03 and the compositor/wm is always the session Jul 11 08:34:14 vvaltone, that is the same as xorg then Jul 11 08:36:26 not really Jul 11 08:36:39 the window manager and compositor don't have to be the root processes Jul 11 08:37:00 and that's pretty much the case in say .. gnome and kde Jul 11 08:40:00 morning meego, sad day netbook broken :( I search a laptop... any idea? Jul 11 08:40:56 seems intel graphic are expensive Jul 11 08:41:49 what? netbooks with intel graphics? Jul 11 08:42:03 laptop with true processor Jul 11 08:42:20 core i* sandy bridge? Jul 11 08:43:20 Stskeeps, I am trying to use cobs to fix bug 13084 Jul 11 08:43:22 https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Alcuk%3AlibXv_bug13084 Jul 11 08:43:23 Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13084 maj, Medium, ---, carsten, ASSI, [n900] Horizontal tearing with xvimagesink Jul 11 08:43:26 for now i think yes... sandy bridge is good? Jul 11 08:43:48 lcuk, ok? Jul 11 08:43:51 I have so far made myself a cobs project with the name, and am going on the assumption the bug exists in libxv Jul 11 08:44:06 i think we need ati and nvidia for meego.. Jul 11 08:44:07 i would assume it is in fbdev-sgx Jul 11 08:44:07 do you know how I import libxv into my project Jul 11 08:44:46 ok reasonable then s/libxv/fbdev-sgx Jul 11 08:44:50 doesn't the radeon drivers exist in meego then? Jul 11 08:45:30 do I just have to click on "Create new package based on existing package " Jul 11 08:45:47 vvaltone, not yet. But maybe it's changed since lasts months ? Jul 11 08:46:00 * lcuk is finding obs extremely complex :$ Jul 11 08:48:21 lcuk, I think it's just cumbersome Jul 11 08:49:04 vvaltone, yeah, I am really impressed by streamlining jaffa and lardman|gone and co have put into http://wiki.meego.com/Getting_started_with_OBS Jul 11 08:49:11 which does simplify many of the steps Jul 11 08:49:46 but actually importing existing project and finding code to use is tough Jul 11 08:50:03 lcuk: MeeGo.com:MeeGo:1.2:non-oss Jul 11 08:50:14 xorg-x11-drv-fbdev Jul 11 08:50:21 Stskeeps, is the source code there though? Jul 11 08:50:23 xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-sgx i mean Jul 11 08:50:24 yes Jul 11 08:50:40 why is it in non-oss then? Jul 11 08:51:31 perhaps it's not Free Jul 11 08:51:46 Stskeeps, I added repositories already: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/repositories?project=home%3Alcuk%3AlibXv_bug13084 Jul 11 08:52:30 n900 usb broken ; netbook broken --> result meego is over for me.... ? Jul 11 08:52:51 lcuk: because it builds against sgx headers Jul 11 08:53:00 lcuk: which cannot be in oss Jul 11 08:53:43 I know you don't care.. but I m sad... Jul 11 08:54:13 niala, what are you typing on now? Jul 11 08:54:34 desktop dualcore and ati Jul 11 08:54:36 Stskeeps, that is reasonable, does that mean I cannot import that project into my repository to do some code testing? Jul 11 08:54:54 lcuk: yes, branch from that repo plus pkg Jul 11 08:58:21 Morning, allMorning, all Jul 11 08:58:36 morn Jul 11 08:59:42 seriously nobody have install meego on nvidia or ati? opengl not compatible Jul 11 08:59:44 morning Jaffa \o Jul 11 08:59:59 niala: there is a guide on forums Jul 11 09:00:16 for nvidia Jul 11 09:00:27 morning Jaffa Jul 11 09:00:35 morning Stskeeps Jul 11 09:00:42 mrn lbt Jul 11 09:00:58 * lbt is wondering why his irc client doesn't auto-complete mor to morning.... Jul 11 09:01:08 I must need more cof Jul 11 09:02:30 using the open drivers with ati should work fine too Jul 11 09:02:37 but never tried Jul 11 09:03:01 they also have some slight issues with heat Jul 11 09:05:16 vvaltone, when i see atihd on my fedora i doubt about meego. Jul 11 09:05:53 that might be the radeonhd driver, which is more or less dead Jul 11 09:06:23 but it wouldn't be very hard to build it for meego Jul 11 09:12:47 Stskeeps, the meego1.2 project has no packages https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=MeeGo%3A1.2 Jul 11 09:30:45 Stskeeps, is that package (xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-sgx) on gitorious anywhere Jul 11 09:30:54 I cannot even find it inside obs web interface Jul 11 09:36:40 [MeeGo-dev] fbdev-sgx Bug Fixing, OBS, Branching and patch guidance reqd http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-dev/2011-July/483774.html Jul 11 09:39:35 * vvaltone curses something in meego.. It keeps redirecting symlinks sometimes Jul 11 09:51:44 ohh a list of ban ?? Jul 11 09:52:07 huh? Jul 11 09:52:17 that was a netsplit Jul 11 09:52:22 just netsplit Jul 11 09:52:29 morning Jul 11 09:52:30 adams.freenode.net active le mode +q #meego HoCok!*@* Jul 11 09:52:32 etc etc Jul 11 09:52:49 niala, oh, it might just have synced the status Jul 11 09:53:23 yes thats why it said the server name not nick Jul 11 09:53:30 just a mode sync Jul 11 09:53:41 ahhh ok Jul 11 09:55:06 looks like a full reboot of the freenode network Jul 11 09:55:18 or some major servers/hubs Jul 11 09:55:55 adams.freenode.net met un ban sur *!*pupnik@*.t-dialin.net Jul 11 09:55:59 adams is a joker Jul 11 09:56:57 hey guys Jul 11 09:57:03 i just got an n950 Jul 11 09:57:06 i want to ask Jul 11 09:57:15 how do i exit an app Jul 11 09:57:35 long press on the task switcher? Jul 11 09:58:22 mcfrisk, where is the task switcher Jul 11 09:59:16 seif, swipe to the right? Jul 11 09:59:20 or read the manual first? :-D Jul 11 09:59:31 or ctrl+backspace Jul 11 10:00:07 andre__, how would same person with N9 manage it? Jul 11 10:00:25 lcuk, don't know, no N9 here Jul 11 10:00:29 andre__, i cant find anything in the manual about a taks switcher Jul 11 10:00:43 the n950 comes only with a usb cable and a "Quick Guide" Jul 11 10:00:57 I see... Jul 11 10:01:16 maybe there's a user manual on nokia website Jul 11 10:01:22 for n9 Jul 11 10:01:23 actually it's ↗ and ← Jul 11 10:01:50 how can i do it without it? Jul 11 10:01:58 without what? Jul 11 10:02:18 how can i swtich without having to have the keyboard out Jul 11 10:02:30 swipe? Jul 11 10:02:39 left right ? Jul 11 10:02:40 seif, try to swipe to the screen where's all open applications visible Jul 11 10:02:40 swipe, as said. Jul 11 10:02:46 close it from there Jul 11 10:02:47 next Jul 11 10:03:05 iekku, i openeed calculator Jul 11 10:03:12 now i want to get out of the calculator screen Jul 11 10:03:19 i cant do that Jul 11 10:03:21 seif, swipe Jul 11 10:03:27 ah Jul 11 10:03:28 ok Jul 11 10:03:29 swipe up Jul 11 10:03:57 in N9 there was a fast tutorial when first time booted the device up Jul 11 10:04:04 wasn't any in the N950? Jul 11 10:04:11 no Jul 11 10:10:36 Stskeeps, I see you have https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Astskeeps%3Abranches%3AMeeGo.com%3AMeeGo%3A1.2%3Anon-oss did you use console to clone this repository? (I note a few other users have too) Jul 11 10:15:36 this is nice Jul 11 10:15:40 is there a way to suse skype Jul 11 10:15:41 ? Jul 11 10:19:10 talk about weird crash, it traces to qMalloc(size=530)->malloc->libc->segfault Jul 11 10:22:57 * lcuk ignores obs and tried on device development instead to try and fix bug Jul 11 10:25:25 lcuk, you can also use chroot Jul 11 10:25:48 vvaltone, i just want to fix a bug Jul 11 10:26:12 I have been scratching my head about how to get OBS up and running Jul 11 10:26:24 just fixing a bug... you make it sound so simple ;P Jul 11 10:26:40 atleast after I spent the whole last week fixing one bug Jul 11 10:26:43 when it might be slower but I will get development packages and code on my n900-ce Jul 11 10:27:19 vvaltone, sounds familiar Jul 11 10:27:32 I'd never use n900 to build stuff Jul 11 10:27:37 http://bc.tech.coop/blog/images/curves.jpg Jul 11 10:28:02 vvaltone, the n810 and n900 have long been stable development environments for the small simple code I need Jul 11 10:28:13 but this isn't my code Jul 11 10:28:21 lol at the emacs curve Jul 11 10:29:02 where's the comparison to amount of features mastered? :P Jul 11 10:29:17 hena, I laughed too, but make;make install/scratchbox/autobuilder/qt/obs are similar Jul 11 10:29:49 why qt?-) Jul 11 10:30:21 vvaltone, symbian development from linux Jul 11 10:30:33 and all the various devkits and sdks required Jul 11 10:30:41 it is not trivial Jul 11 10:30:48 what's this symbian thing? ;P Jul 11 10:31:06 vvaltone, it is that OS used on a squillion more phones at this point Jul 11 10:31:40 and there is little point in writing Qt apps for just one OS Jul 11 10:31:53 not true Jul 11 10:32:03 when you can for small amounts of tweaking and thinking support most of those too Jul 11 10:32:05 there's lots of points in writing Qt apps for just one OS Jul 11 10:32:15 mostly because it's a nice api Jul 11 10:33:08 vvaltone, if your qt code is written nice and carefully then your market can expand easily :) Jul 11 10:33:24 no, not really Jul 11 10:33:37 I don't actually sell them Jul 11 10:34:08 build.pub.m.c, anyone know why this build seems stuck https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=i586&package=qpid-cpp&project=home%3Amcfrisk%3Abranches%3AMeeGo.com%3ATools%3ATesting&repository=Debian_6.0 Jul 11 10:34:57 mcfrisk, the obs web interface froze for a good 10 minutes just earlier Jul 11 10:38:12 ok, is it coming back to life? Jul 11 10:38:41 eventually Jul 11 10:40:00 sometimes strange things happen in obs Jul 11 10:40:34 indeed Jul 11 10:47:20 this phone is awesome Jul 11 10:50:05 seif: Which one? Jul 11 11:02:33 Jade n950 Jul 11 11:02:38 still needs some tweaks Jul 11 11:02:47 n900 was easier to set up Jul 11 11:02:50 especially with accounts Jul 11 11:02:52 where is skype Jul 11 11:02:53 ? Jul 11 11:12:42 guys Jul 11 11:12:48 i am facing this issue Jul 11 11:12:49 http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Discussion/showthread.php?226389-What-is-this-SDK-in-MyDocs-SDK-on-N950 Jul 11 11:13:13 i get Code: Jul 11 11:13:13 Could not fetch Updates.xml: Error downloading http://repository.meego.nokia.com/meegosdk/45F4AE4C67B0406F90EEE94EA5ABE69A/linux/32bit/Updates.xml - server replied: Bad Request Jul 11 11:24:50 seif: unfortunately, we're not equipped to handle harmattan issues Jul 11 11:25:53 hmmmmmmmmm Jul 11 11:25:58 thiago, so what Jul 11 11:26:07 can i do to get the sdk installed Jul 11 11:26:28 i dont really think i need it as long as i have ssh Jul 11 11:27:19 meaning that you should post on that thread on nokia's website. We are ill-equipped to help you in this channel. Jul 11 11:31:12 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=qualcomm_snapdragon_mdp&num=1 Jul 11 11:31:24 looks nice but insanely expsensive Jul 11 11:31:31 hello CosmoHill Jul 11 11:31:36 hi niala Jul 11 11:33:06 CosmoHill, and it doesn't have a radio, except wifi Jul 11 11:33:18 the 13MPix camera is pretty ridiculous also Jul 11 11:37:18 I thought it does Jul 11 11:37:27 hello Jul 11 11:37:46 just received the nokia N950 shipment mail confirmation Jul 11 11:37:51 should receive it this week Jul 11 11:38:10 Congrats. Jul 11 11:38:45 i guess you need to send it back immediately? ;) Jul 11 11:39:20 was wondering, does N950 have bumped screen glass ? because in some videos from fone arena review (http://www.fonearena.com/blog/40638/exclusive-the-epic-nokia-n950-hands-on.html) i think i saw a rounded highlight on the screen so it means its not flat isn't it ? Jul 11 11:39:28 hena: never Jul 11 11:40:00 "RELEASE THE NOKIA !" ->> "NEVEEER§§" Jul 11 11:40:07 you know they just called all of them back :) Jul 11 11:40:18 hena: no Jul 11 11:40:27 yep Jul 11 11:41:29 citation needed Jul 11 11:41:35 why is it 'epic'? Jul 11 11:42:09 vvaltone: biggest N950 handson with videos and pictures outta there Jul 11 11:42:19 Epic enough 4 me Jul 11 11:42:28 TheBootroo: The screen of the N950 is flat, unlike the N9 Jul 11 11:42:49 Jaffa: sure ? so where these rounded apperance comes from ? Jul 11 11:42:54 there's a guy here who has one Jul 11 11:43:11 vvaltone: more than one right now Jul 11 11:43:22 I mean in the place I sit at :P Jul 11 11:43:25 vvaltone: there must be 10 or 20 guys right here with a N950 Jul 11 11:43:37 vvaltone: oh oh ok right Jul 11 11:43:50 TheBootroo: I dunno where the rounded appearance comes from (I know what you mean), but I've just looked at my N950 edge on :-p Jul 11 11:43:59 Jaffa: N950 are being sent from finland true ? Jul 11 11:44:21 TheBootroo: Mine was. Others are. So "probably" Jul 11 11:44:33 vvaltone: unless he's sitting on your lap, I don't think he sits there Jul 11 11:44:44 TheBootroo: OK, mine bends downwards slightly at top & bottom, but doesn't curve anywhere near as much as the N9 Jul 11 11:44:52 Jaffa: i'm in france (lyon) so, given that it has been sent this morning, it should arrive into 2 days Jul 11 11:45:19 2 days is optimistic unless it's a courier Jul 11 11:45:20 Jaffa: i know N9 is really bumped, but i was sure N950 was a little two Jul 11 11:45:38 why aren't the touch screens flat? Jul 11 11:46:13 You know how google said their concave surface was so it's easier to speak? the bumped nokias are so it's harder to speak into them ;P Jul 11 11:46:16 vvaltone: here thurdsay is nationnal day, so no shipment that day, so if i dont arrive wednesday, ill have to wait newt monday Jul 11 11:51:24 hey folks, many of you in here using Meego Netbook or is everyone using Meego for phones? :P Jul 11 11:52:50 MeeGo Tablet ofcourse Jul 11 11:53:12 * rzr on n950 Jul 11 11:53:25 Windows 7 Jul 11 11:53:35 er I mean MeeGo on Desktop >.> Jul 11 11:53:44 CosmoHill, really? Jul 11 11:54:09 never saw the desktop edition ;P Jul 11 11:54:31 MeeGo on desktop would be useful as a build host Jul 11 11:54:38 haha Jul 11 11:54:40 it's just the notebook edition Jul 11 11:54:50 *netbook Jul 11 11:55:11 well I was just wondering if anyone can recommend some good respositories to add for software, or should we really just compile everything from source? Jul 11 11:55:40 real men compile from source :) Jul 11 11:55:57 yay Jul 11 11:56:02 wait, you're only saying that cos you did CLFS Jul 11 11:56:03 Jaffa: did you get any software update OTA since i have the device ? Jul 11 11:56:24 i'm also making my own installer :) Jul 11 11:56:55 berndhs: for CLFS? Jul 11 11:56:59 for meego Jul 11 11:57:06 ooo Jul 11 11:57:26 the anaconda forked one is going away in favour of a simple one, which doesnt do what I need Jul 11 11:57:57 so I'm forking the simple shell based installer they have Jul 11 12:02:14 i made an installer for LFS long ago Jul 11 12:03:05 what they are doing with sfdisk is really painful Jul 11 12:03:32 not their fault, sfdisk sucks Jul 11 12:03:57 that would explain the S Jul 11 12:04:07 yes probably Jul 11 12:04:58 is there a way to ssh connect to the meego phone or so Jul 11 12:04:59 ? Jul 11 12:05:03 it wants to align things on cylinder boundaries for one thing Jul 11 12:06:49 seif: yes, you can do it over the wifi or usb-netowrking Jul 11 12:06:55 seif: if you have sshd running on the phone you can ssh into it Jul 11 12:07:10 berndhs, how do i get sshd on the phone Jul 11 12:07:35 seif: install openssh-server Jul 11 12:08:34 berndhs, is ssh the default way of connecting with the phone Jul 11 12:08:34 ? Jul 11 12:09:34 seif: dunno, default way is probly phone company :) Jul 11 12:09:37 the default way would to be phyically use the phone Jul 11 12:12:43 ooo, I didn't get charged for 2 minutes for a 1:03 call Jul 11 12:14:30 what will you do with all the money ? Jul 11 12:15:22 if I was on my old network, quiet a lto Jul 11 12:15:23 lot* Jul 11 12:19:57 is there any chance that meego would include PyQt in their repo? i compiled my own but i hate packaging this stuff Jul 11 12:20:16 isn't pyside more supported? Jul 11 12:20:24 I think there's a good chance that PySide is accepted Jul 11 12:21:29 you mean meego does not include PyQt?! Jul 11 12:21:42 I'm pretty sure PySide is already there Jul 11 12:22:04 thiago: not sure its in trunk, but tere is a well maintained project for it Jul 11 12:22:06 built for meego Jul 11 12:22:31 thiago, can you walk me through connecting to the meego phone Jul 11 12:22:32 ? Jul 11 12:22:43 seif: no Jul 11 12:22:48 :( Jul 11 12:24:02 thiago, pyside includes PyQt? Jul 11 12:26:15 luist: no Jul 11 12:26:21 hi all Jul 11 12:26:22 PySide is a different project providing Python bindings for Qt Jul 11 12:27:40 thiago, would the code made for PyQt work with PySide? Jul 11 12:27:50 yes, they are source compatible Jul 11 12:28:30 huh Jul 11 12:28:38 why am i banned from #meego-dev Jul 11 12:28:56 its closed Jul 11 12:29:04 ah Jul 11 12:29:29 i have openssh-server installed Jul 11 12:29:35 i can ged sshd running though Jul 11 12:30:13 do you know the ip of your phone? Jul 11 12:30:36 yes Jul 11 12:30:43 port scan it Jul 11 12:31:29 Elleo: you should adjust the path of qml files in your libre.fm client. I've tested it on Desktop and real device I get the same error: librefm.qml: File not found Jul 11 12:32:20 Andy80: there are two paths in the source file, one I use when running locally and one for when it's installed system wide Jul 11 12:32:47 Andy80: I need to make that an ifdef based thing at some point Jul 11 12:33:03 but other than that it depends on what directory you're running from if you're doing it locally Jul 11 12:33:04 Elleo: uhm... strange... I mean, on real device it fails :\ have you tested it there? Jul 11 12:33:20 Andy80: don't have the device yet Jul 11 12:33:34 Elleo: ok, I hope you get it soon then :) Jul 11 12:33:42 you'd need to uncomment the DATAPATH + "/librefm.qml" Jul 11 12:33:46 thiago, any idea if either are going to be officially supported? Jul 11 12:33:49 instead of the one that's just "src/librefm.qml" Jul 11 12:33:57 then build the deb and install it Jul 11 12:34:06 luist: if you ask and give a reason, I don't see why not Jul 11 12:34:10 otherwise if you're doing it locally on the device you need to make sure you're running it from outside of the src directory Jul 11 12:34:13 so you're running ./src/librefm Jul 11 12:34:30 thiago, ok and where do i ask :) Jul 11 12:34:40 let me try :) Jul 11 12:34:57 "by locally on the device" I mean without installing it systemwide Jul 11 12:35:48 luist: meego-dev Jul 11 12:36:16 apparently mine is out for delivery some time today, so I'll probably finish putting everything together and start releasing packages for it over the next week or so Jul 11 12:36:53 CosmoHill, ok got it Jul 11 12:37:08 CosmoHill, what is the "username" for it Jul 11 12:37:21 Elleo: yes, it runs :) Jul 11 12:37:25 :) Jul 11 12:38:18 Elleo: just a strange thing... I see two system bar on top... I mean the one with the text "Developer Edition", with time, battery ecc... probably a system wide bug, not your bug Jul 11 12:38:33 I don't know how to take a screenshot else I would show it Jul 11 12:38:45 odd Jul 11 12:38:52 well I'll have a device to test with soon enough ;) Jul 11 12:40:54 thiago, cant join the channel... says im banned :P even tho i never joined it b4 Jul 11 12:41:35 seif: root Jul 11 12:41:39 the password is "meego" Jul 11 12:41:42 #meego-dev is closed Jul 11 12:41:43 Stskeeps: Error: "meego-dev" is not a valid command. Jul 11 12:41:55 I think you can also use "meego / meego" Jul 11 12:42:00 hi! is it available emgd driver for kernel 3.0 and xorg 1.10 ? Jul 11 12:42:14 CosmoHill, Jul 11 12:42:16 ssh root@192.168.0.112 Jul 11 12:42:16 root@192.168.0.112's password: Jul 11 12:42:22 it tell me password wrong Jul 11 12:42:43 CosmoHill: n950 doesnt run meego.com Jul 11 12:42:55 Stskeeps, what does it run then Jul 11 12:43:03 seif: harmattan Jul 11 12:43:45 Stskeeps, ok how do i connect via ssh Jul 11 12:43:46 ? Jul 11 12:43:58 seif: on the device you could type "sudo -s" and "passwd", this should ask you for a new password for the root user Jul 11 12:44:06 better yet type "whoami" and "passwd" Jul 11 12:44:13 dunno, ask on nokia developer forums Jul 11 12:44:24 this will set the password for your current user but I don't know if that will break anything Jul 11 12:48:15 Stskeeps, ok how do i ask stuff in #meego-dev if its closed :) Jul 11 12:48:53 luist: meego-dev@ mailing list, probably Jul 11 12:49:01 luist: the mailing list Jul 11 12:53:51 got it Jul 11 12:54:12 Stskeeps, CosmoHill the username is "developer" the passwrod can be found under "SDK connectivity" Jul 11 12:54:21 cool Jul 11 12:57:40 seif: The default N950 root password is the same as all versions of Maemo to-date: 'rootme' Jul 11 12:57:51 seif: 'devel-su' is the equivalent of 'sudo gainroot' Jul 11 12:58:23 Jaffa, awesome Jul 11 12:58:30 any ideas where I can get pyside Jul 11 12:58:45 is there pyside-mobility for the meego Jul 11 12:59:21 seif: I've put root access into http://wiki.meego.com/Migrating_from_N900_to_N950 Jul 11 12:59:31 seif: http://developer.qt.nokia.com/wiki/PySide_Binaries_MeeGo Jul 11 12:59:32 seif: PySide is installed by default, AIUI. Jul 11 12:59:41 seif: If not, apt-get should find them Jul 11 13:00:22 awesome Jul 11 13:00:44 seif: If not, ask thp Jul 11 13:00:53 seif: supposing you meant "Meego 1.2 Harmattan" , it has PySide by default (AFAIK) Jul 11 13:00:59 just like Jaffa said :) Jul 11 13:01:21 yes Jul 11 13:01:26 thanks guys Jul 11 13:01:37 sadly i can only connect via wlan Jul 11 13:01:40 its not working over usb Jul 11 13:18:47 ok this is going pretty well Jul 11 13:19:03 guys any1 here know if there is geoclue for harmattan anywherE? Jul 11 13:20:54 seif: use what's there already Jul 11 13:21:18 well this means i have to rewrite my app to use the qt location service Jul 11 13:21:42 yes Jul 11 13:21:52 it will be fun :) Jul 11 13:22:11 berndhs, so there is not geoclue? Jul 11 13:22:18 i have no idea Jul 11 13:23:01 but programming with Qt is usually pretty painless Jul 11 13:23:07 yeah Jul 11 13:23:09 i am on it Jul 11 13:30:45 programming QT may be painless but trying to understand all the stuff that goes on underneath all those macros and templates and helpers can be a pain :P Jul 11 13:32:16 i often wish the signal/slot API really were as asynchronous as it looks Jul 11 13:34:31 jonwil: don't try then :-) Jul 11 13:34:52