**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 13 02:59:57 2011 Jul 13 03:09:23 curl -s http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta/|sed -n 's/.*folder\.gif.*href=\"$[^"]*$\">.*/\1/gp'|while read repo; do curl -s "harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta/$repo/"|sed -n 's/.*folder\.gif.*href=\"$[^"]*$\">.*/\1/gp'|while read sub; do curl -s "harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta/$repo/$sub" | sed -n 's/.*folder\.gif.*href=\"$[^"]*$\">.*/\1/gp'|tr -d '/'; done; done Jul 13 03:44:44 morning Jul 13 03:45:20 another 20 minutes, no reason to panic Jul 13 03:45:33 :D Jul 13 03:46:20 berndhs, from tomorrow morning i will be on vacation for 3,5 weeks, so not here to tell when to go to sleep :P Jul 13 03:46:45 or if i am, it's way too late :D Jul 13 03:46:56 that could be a problem, thanks for the heads-up :) Jul 13 04:12:53 good moaning Jul 13 04:25:40 good morning Jul 13 06:15:59 i wanted use valkyrie; front end for valgrind in meego Jul 13 06:16:26 but while configuring it ,getting some Qt dependency error. Jul 13 06:16:59 anyone able to use any memcheck frontend to find out memleaks in meego? Jul 13 07:05:50 time for Handset UX Bug Triage @ #meego-meeting Jul 13 07:06:07 thanks iekku Jul 13 07:10:58 hello i have received my N950 Jul 13 07:11:08 congrats Jul 13 07:11:11 i haven't yet :( Jul 13 07:11:13 but i can't enable Wifi mode for SDK connection Jul 13 07:11:15 TheBootroo, nice! Jul 13 07:11:50 in the sdk connection app Jul 13 07:12:02 i can't edit settings for the wifi mide Jul 13 07:12:05 *mode Jul 13 07:12:10 TheBootroo: best to ask on the developer.nokia.com forums Jul 13 07:12:20 so the ip is 0.0.0.0 which is bad IMO Jul 13 07:12:36 Stskeeps: is there any IRC channel Jul 13 07:13:13 dunno Jul 13 07:16:48 TheBootroo: why not just use usb? Jul 13 07:17:22 zx2c4: i don't have linux at work and usb rndis driver for win7 doesnt exist Jul 13 07:20:49 TheBootroo: aaa gotcha Jul 13 07:20:55 let me try getting wlan woring on mine. one second Jul 13 07:22:14 you're right thebootroo Jul 13 07:22:20 the edit settings button does nothing Jul 13 07:24:31 TheBootroo: i have it working Jul 13 07:24:35 just have it connect to your wireless network Jul 13 07:24:39 with the correct IP address in dhcp Jul 13 07:24:40 and it works fine Jul 13 07:24:50 it has to be connected to th einternet first Jul 13 07:25:10 i was thinking the button create a ad hoc connection but not Jul 13 07:25:23 no. Jul 13 07:25:37 all the SDK app does is display your IP address (either your wlan ip or your usb ip) Jul 13 07:25:41 and then sets a random password Jul 13 07:25:42 and displays it Jul 13 07:26:32 TheBootroo: what are youd oin with your N950? im trying to find new places to investigate on it Jul 13 07:27:16 i'm trying to connect in root shh to start hacking on harmattan a little Jul 13 07:27:44 (installing home made qt apps, tweak themes css;..) Jul 13 07:29:04 ssh developer@ipaddress Jul 13 07:29:08 password written on screen Jul 13 07:29:12 # devel-su Jul 13 07:29:13 zx2c4: Error: "devel-su" is not a valid command. Jul 13 07:29:15 password is rootme Jul 13 07:29:16 # Jul 13 07:29:27 what?! Jul 13 07:29:37 the-boss: you dont have devel su are you kidding? Jul 13 07:29:37 zx2c4: Error: "you" is not a valid command. Jul 13 07:29:47 oh. ahahahah okay Jul 13 07:29:51 it just executes things Jul 13 07:29:52 thats funny Jul 13 07:29:56 the-boss: ls Jul 13 07:29:56 zx2c4: Error: "ls" is not a valid command. Jul 13 07:30:05 ohh its an irc bot Jul 13 07:30:06 my bad Jul 13 07:30:41 yea so sorry for the clutter TheBootroo -- in summary: 1. ssh developer@ip.address with the password on the screen. 2. devel-su to get root with the password rootme Jul 13 07:32:14 so i cant connect directly in root mode ? Jul 13 07:38:31 Morning, all Jul 13 07:41:13 hi, I am having an issue with 'mic-image-creator' Jul 13 07:41:23 sudo mic-image-creator -c tablet-ia32-qemu.ks --mainrepo oss Jul 13 07:41:29 Error: failed to create image : Failed to build transaction : syncevolution-buteo-1.1.99.4-4.39.i586 requires libsynccommon.so.0 Jul 13 07:41:36 the .ks file is from Jul 13 07:41:42 http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/snapshots/stable/1.2.80/latest/builddata/image-configs/ Jul 13 07:41:52 any ideas ? Jul 13 07:42:42 1.2.80 is 1.3, a lot of invasive work going on there Jul 13 07:43:37 where can i get rndis driver for win 7 and N950 ? Jul 13 07:44:24 TheBootroo: such questions better asked on #harmattan I guess Jul 13 07:57:06 anaZ: FYI: https://meego.gitorious.org/meego-developer-tools/kickstarter/merge_requests/7 Jul 13 08:23:37 Morning Jul 13 08:25:59 hey can someone help me using mad Jul 13 08:26:03 im trying to build qjson for my n950 Jul 13 08:27:07 morning Khertan_w \o Jul 13 08:31:59 morning lcuk Jul 13 08:33:15 morning all Jul 13 08:33:22 morn lbt Jul 13 08:35:15 morning all Jul 13 08:36:26 how can I find the base repository in OBS Jul 13 08:36:39 I can see that dbus is in Base: Trunk Trunk:Testing Jul 13 08:36:52 but where is the devel branch ? Jul 13 08:37:32 devel:base? Jul 13 08:40:05 vvaltone: Thanks Jul 13 08:40:53 the dbus package there looks a bit weak for 'devel' :P Jul 13 08:41:13 ancient version, no patches Jul 13 08:44:05 X-Fade, lbt, Stskeeps \o Jul 13 08:44:21 hey lcuk Jul 13 08:44:30 morning Stskeeps Jul 13 08:44:37 and X-Fade Jul 13 08:44:50 wow, life in here today ... party! Jul 13 08:46:12 but I guess that's the same dbus that's everywhere else too Jul 13 08:49:27 :D Jul 13 08:55:07 kavacha: when you do osc branch Trunk:Testing dbus it should automatically branch from the right devel project if there is one. Jul 13 08:56:02 thanks Sage! Jul 13 08:56:27 kavacha, wanting to update it to 1.4.12? Jul 13 08:57:42 if it doesn't branch it from right devel project then the devel maintainer needs to submit a devel change request for the package Jul 13 08:57:55 also should be noted that all packages do not have devel projects Jul 13 09:01:18 d p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; } DBus error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.167" (uid=29999 pid=4350 comm="/opt/LocationTracker/bin/LocationTracker ") interface="com.nokia.positioningd.client" member="configSession" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="com.nokia.positioningd.client" (uid=29999 pid=848 comm="/usr/bin/positioningd ")) Jul 13 09:01:24 DBus error: Jul 13 09:01:24 org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied Jul 13 09:01:24 Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.167" (uid=29999 pid=4350 comm="/opt/LocationTracker/bin/LocationTracker ") interface="com.nokia.positioningd.client" member="configSession" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="com.nokia.positioningd.client" (uid=29999 pid=848 comm="/usr/bin/positioningd ")) Jul 13 09:01:31 why can't i get QtMobility's location services to work Jul 13 09:01:33 on my n950 Jul 13 09:01:56 pastie please zx2c4 Jul 13 09:02:26 lbt http://pastebin.com/GvRa33G7 Jul 13 09:02:27 All hail the great wall of error Jul 13 09:02:33 * MSM1 bows Jul 13 09:03:01 zx2c4: was thinking you should pastie the error ... but random code is fine too Jul 13 09:03:42 Sage: thanks, I had noticed some were missing Jul 13 09:03:45 lbt http://pastebin.com/hCXYuWwz Jul 13 09:03:50 lbt any help? Jul 13 09:04:14 Sage: is there a way to see from Trunk: ... where the devel branch actually is Jul 13 09:04:34 e.g. if i did not know that a package is in base Jul 13 09:05:15 from the devel:base/dbus 'source files' I can see that it links up to trunk Jul 13 09:05:22 but how about the other way ? Jul 13 09:07:11 lbt ?!? Jul 13 09:08:09 vvaltone: no, but is there a plan to do that ? Jul 13 09:08:14 zx2c4 lbt is busy file a bugreport :) Jul 13 09:08:40 kavacha, that's not something I know, I have packages of it tho Jul 13 09:09:12 zx2c4: Set permissions? and reload dbus? Jul 13 09:09:59 eg group membership Jul 13 09:10:08 lbt: I'm just deploying this as normal from qt creator Jul 13 09:10:16 lbt: and it looks like aegis manifest is correct Jul 13 09:10:40 Over to someone else then ... sorry Jul 13 09:11:07 zx2c4: aegis is always correct ;) What are you doing ? Jul 13 09:12:54 djszapi nothing crazy. i just wrote the code in my pastebin and then i hit deploy in qtcreator Jul 13 09:13:00 but im getting those dbus errors Jul 13 09:13:13 zx2c4: harmattan ?? Jul 13 09:13:35 kavacha: yes. Jul 13 09:13:38 zx2c4: you need to install the package so that the manifest is installed correctly Jul 13 09:13:44 zx2c4: n950 ? Jul 13 09:14:15 can you paste the manifest ? Jul 13 09:14:34 kavacha: mad/qtcreator does not do this automatically Jul 13 09:14:39 djszapi: yes Jul 13 09:14:42 kavacha: sure. one second Jul 13 09:15:10 kavacha: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/437603/ Jul 13 09:15:38 lbt: can .spec files take attributes from OBS package it's in? Jul 13 09:15:44 let's say if i wanted to use Domain or something Jul 13 09:16:09 zx2c4: isn't there already a trazx2c4: it is a different tracker than what the image ships right ? Jul 13 09:16:23 ok again :) zx2c4: it is a different tracker than what the image ships right ? Jul 13 09:16:37 djszapi: yes. im writing my own little thing Jul 13 09:17:44 WELL THIS IS INTERESTING. kavacha djszapi when it runs from qtcreator i get the dbus errors. when i load it as the developer user over ssh there's no problem Jul 13 09:17:46 ......... hmmm Jul 13 09:18:16 lbt: Going to add "JFDI" comments to http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=3829 ? Jul 13 09:19:08 yeah "best time to discuss if we really want these features" Jul 13 09:19:15 Indeed. Jul 13 09:19:16 err, no. JFDI Jul 13 09:19:22 zx2c4: is there a /etc/dbus-1/*.conf file associated with your application ? Jul 13 09:19:35 It's so *not* that time, given it was one of the requirements for selecting this forum s/w in the first place ;-) Jul 13 09:19:53 zx2c4: either in the session or system dirs? Jul 13 09:20:21 kavacha: no. why shold there be? Jul 13 09:20:33 im not making a daemon Jul 13 09:20:44 this is just connecting to the normal location service via dbus via qtmobility Jul 13 09:23:15 ... Jul 13 09:23:58 you prolly need aegis credentials/declare them Jul 13 09:25:15 zx2c4: what is the path that the instance of qtcreator launched runs as ? Jul 13 09:25:22 can some1 help me with the following error http://pastebin.com/Ts35z9ki when trying to run http://pastebin.com/9vWnfDDq Jul 13 09:25:58 because if it is not "/opt/LocationTracker/bin/LocationTracker" it will probably fail Jul 13 09:26:27 kavacha: Jul 13 09:26:28 /home/developer $ ps aux|grep LocationTracker Jul 13 09:26:28 3016 user sh -c /usr/lib/mad-developer/devrootsh chmod a+x /opt/LocationTracker/bin/LocationTracker; :; test -f /etc/profile && source /etc/profile; test -f /home/user/.profile && source /home/user/.profile; test -f ~/.profile && source ~/.profile; gdbserver :10000 /opt/LocationTracker/bin/LocationTracker Jul 13 09:26:28 3027 user gdbserver :10000 /opt/LocationTracker/bin/LocationTracker Jul 13 09:27:24 kavacha: oooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh THATS INTERESTING. if i run it with out debugging, then it works Jul 13 09:27:31 *something is happening when its run through gdbserver * Jul 13 09:27:51 heh, damn aegis Jul 13 09:28:06 lardman: mbarcode is in qt and uses gst as backend? Jul 13 09:28:16 kavacha, was what you posted related to what i asked Jul 13 09:28:49 seif IM HAVING THE SAME ISSUE Jul 13 09:28:59 zx2c4, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Jul 13 09:29:08 seif so far ive found that if you run it WITHOUT gdbserver, then it works Jul 13 09:29:09 zx2c4, ok can some1 catch me up on what i am missing Jul 13 09:29:23 how do i run it without gdbserver Jul 13 09:29:23 ? Jul 13 09:29:28 seif: i'd guess that in your case, it has to do with a lack of a manifest for the program Jul 13 09:29:57 what do u mean by manifest Jul 13 09:29:58 seif: i dunno how to do this with python or scripts Jul 13 09:30:03 google around for aegis manifest Jul 13 09:30:36 seif: its funny though... i have almost the same.excct.code, but in C+++ Jul 13 09:30:42 seif: http://mysite.verizon.net/ralph.a.smith1/aegis/howto-html/how_to_use_aegis_with_python.html Jul 13 09:30:58 zx2c4: the manifest is attached to the package not the code Jul 13 09:31:00 seif: http://dz015.wordpress.com/2011/07/05/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-or-python-security-fw-and-harmattan/ Jul 13 09:31:15 kavacha: aaa okay. i dunno much about it. you're better off heling seif Jul 13 09:31:28 kavacha: what do you make of the fact that it breaks with gdbserver but works standalone? Jul 13 09:32:53 zx2c4: interesting :) Jul 13 09:33:12 what happens if you run 'gdb myapp' Jul 13 09:33:28 and then just 'run' Jul 13 09:33:31 kavacha: one second Jul 13 09:34:09 kavacha: no dice! Jul 13 09:34:21 well, we've found a bug evidently Jul 13 09:34:35 unless this is some big general thing where aegis permissions have to be relaxed for debugging to work Jul 13 09:36:01 Khertan_w, kavacha what if i dont want to "package" my app ? Jul 13 09:36:54 seif: then no joy using credential protected resources Jul 13 09:37:08 Stskeeps: yes Jul 13 09:37:10 oh boy Jul 13 09:37:16 kavacha, i have no clue of packaging Jul 13 09:37:23 but its a qt application Jul 13 09:37:26 can the sdk do it for me Jul 13 09:37:27 ? Jul 13 09:37:31 Stskeeps: why do you ask? Jul 13 09:37:48 Stskeeps: I'm told by someone who has a device that it runs with only some minor mods Jul 13 09:38:26 lardman: pondering a funny use for it in n900CE Jul 13 09:38:39 Stskeeps: fire away Jul 13 09:39:13 Once I get my broadband back I'm planning an overhaul of the whole code structure, so now's the time to add features if needed Jul 13 09:39:25 lardman: well, just wondering how dificult it would be to move onto meego instead Jul 13 09:39:56 Stskeeps: I seem to remember lcuk saying that he'd run it on the N900 with Meego Jul 13 09:39:59 hmm, ok Jul 13 09:40:59 but ideally i'd like to use mbarcode within a qml setting/declarative Jul 13 09:41:12 There are other questions about how it should be used - for example it would be nice to add barcode search as a feature to the camera app (like the face recognition), which would save needing to open a separate app Jul 13 09:41:18 :nod: Jul 13 09:41:24 how cpu intensive is it? Jul 13 09:41:34 very when decoding Jul 13 09:41:59 but if the recognition could be done reasonably cheaply, and then only single frame decoding used, that would make life far easier Jul 13 09:42:11 ok Jul 13 09:42:21 Khertan_w, it says: "Use Aegis version 3.23 or later, and set the following in the project config file: Jul 13 09:42:21 " Jul 13 09:42:33 which config file are they taling about Jul 13 09:42:40 atm it scans something like 10fps so hits 100% cpu usage afair to try to extract barcodes if they are present. Jul 13 09:43:07 but if time were not a problem the accuracy could be far better and therefore it would only spike the cpu Jul 13 09:45:22 Stskeeps: Other people have also asked for the app to be broken up into a decoder part (without video grabbing stuff), a widget that does video + decoding; I guess this is what you're thinking of with the qml stuff? Jul 13 09:53:17 zx2c4: can you try and run 'accli -p PID -I' where PID is the pid of the process started by running /opt... without gdb Jul 13 09:54:19 zx2c4: then try the same where pid is the pid of the application being traced by gdb Jul 13 09:54:36 lardman, not managed to get mbarcode onto meego Jul 13 09:55:07 lcuk: do you have a video of the thing where you synchronise in liqbase between two n900s using camera? Jul 13 09:55:55 do you mean in the invar stuff? Jul 13 09:56:04 with the recognition dots? Jul 13 09:56:19 kavacha: http://build.meego.com/package/show?package=nokia-n900-configs&project=Trunk%3ATesting <- it is shown like this in webui at least Jul 13 09:56:29 lcuk: yeah Jul 13 09:56:53 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjSrwpbxyAM Jul 13 09:57:40 i am trying to build a mic2 image based on the netbook 1.2 Jul 13 09:57:50 but it will not download adobe nor flash stuff Jul 13 09:59:44 Stskeepz, once I build an image for netbook, is the process the same for ARM builds too? Jul 13 09:59:51 or do they need to be done inside qemu? Jul 13 10:04:58 lcuk: ah ok Jul 13 10:05:21 lcuk: once my N950 arrives I'll try the latest N900CE build and see if I can get it up and running Jul 13 10:10:01 lardman: You mean N900CE build on N900 or N950? Jul 13 10:10:13 on the N900 ;) Jul 13 10:10:41 Sage: don't worry, I did realise the difference :) Jul 13 10:11:18 lardman: well, mainly asked because we have the n950ce images almost there as well. Jul 13 10:11:29 oh right, cool Jul 13 10:12:04 * lardman does not look forward to sorting out Meego build process Jul 13 10:12:20 that is the main reason I've not bothered so far, fear of obs Jul 13 10:12:36 obsphobia, I wonder if that actually means something.... Jul 13 10:13:35 * lardman goes to grab a coffee with Holly, bbiab Jul 13 10:13:39 lardman, http://bc.tech.coop/blog/images/curves.jpg apply that logic to build systems ;) Jul 13 10:14:01 lol Jul 13 10:14:47 lardman, but it is right, once you get started it is easier Jul 13 10:15:04 take for example now in a console window: I have an image building :D Jul 13 10:19:30 erm, ping? :) Jul 13 10:23:43 lardman: Building stuff in OBS for Harmattan seems quite straightforward. Your http://wiki.meego.com/Getting_started_with_OBS has been fleshed out a bit, and there's http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=24047&postcount=15 if you're using Qt Creator Jul 13 10:27:05 Have you seen my bit bout Nokia Russia? :) Jul 13 10:28:33 Nokia's sending N950's with courier directly to Nokia Russia to avoid russian customs :P Jul 13 10:28:44 hehe Jul 13 10:29:13 Seriously, I'm embarrased Jul 13 10:29:27 Hehe, judging by what people in Russia tell me about how that stuff works (or, well, doesn't as the case seems to be), i can't say i'm surprised Jul 13 10:30:24 I totally understand the reasons for these actions but really, that's horrible Jul 13 10:30:54 Really have nothing but facepalm for this Jul 13 10:31:02 Yes, yes it is... What /really/ disturbs me is that Russia is in such a horrible state that Nokia finds themselves needing to do so... Jul 13 10:31:42 According to Mr. Medvedev everything's pretty cool :P Jul 13 10:32:13 wazd, are you implying that Nokia Russia might get bricks if they didn't? Jul 13 10:32:32 vvaltone: absolutely Jul 13 10:32:46 vvaltone: they did it before and doing it now Jul 13 10:33:17 vvaltone: actually flour is the new brick :D Jul 13 10:33:30 ah.. bricks are too expensive? Jul 13 10:33:33 you can finetune weight of the parcell Jul 13 10:33:40 oh.. true Jul 13 10:34:09 so it will be impossible to sue customs Jul 13 10:34:41 undoubtedly nokia decided to send flour in phone boxes Jul 13 10:34:59 and attempt to blame the pristine russian customs for it Jul 13 10:35:08 vvaltone: yep Jul 13 10:35:17 wazd: so they're going to send them with courier to russia and suddenly it ends up at eldar's place? :P Jul 13 10:36:15 u/me googles 'bribes officer' 'russian customs' Jul 13 10:36:41 lardman: at least qt apps were easy to build with qtsdk & madde Jul 13 10:36:42 Stskeepz: I guess they are all assigned and counted so it will be hard to perform such a trick :) Jul 13 10:36:55 hehe Jul 13 10:36:55 I got antsnes running on my n950 in about two hours or so Jul 13 10:40:31 Connection reset by beer :P Jul 13 10:41:03 mmm, beer Jul 13 10:43:09 Jaffa: cool Jul 13 10:43:31 Summeli: unfortunately it's not just a Qt app though, it requires some support libraries Jul 13 10:43:53 lardman: I compiled the snes9x stuff with qt's pro-file as static lib, and then linked into that Jul 13 10:44:07 then just add those support libs to the actual executable Jul 13 10:44:53 I have to write my own makefiles for gpsp, but the madde seems to be working, so that shouldn't take too much time Jul 13 10:44:58 I don't want static linking though Jul 13 10:45:17 anyway I'll sort it out once I have the device in front of me Jul 13 10:45:43 http://git.zx2c4.com/LocationTracker/tree/Tracker.cpp Jul 13 10:45:45 comin along.... Jul 13 10:47:06 zx2c4: can you try and run 'accli -p PID -I' where PID is the pid of the process started by running /opt... without gdb Jul 13 10:47:44 kavacha: it works without gdb. with gdb it fails Jul 13 10:47:45 zx2c4: then try the same where pid is the pid of the application being traced by gdb Jul 13 10:47:49 okay Jul 13 10:48:51 sleep time for now Jul 13 10:48:56 almost 7am here! Jul 13 10:50:07 anybody like to provide some advice on wiorking with OBS Jul 13 10:50:13 I have my git repo Jul 13 10:50:24 and there is a package in OBS Jul 13 10:50:55 how can I build my git branch against OBS Jul 13 11:04:20 kavacha: have any luck getting community meego on the 950? Jul 13 11:04:47 please wait until we have a ready image, as you might damage your device else :) Jul 13 11:05:20 Stskeepz: who is "we" and how can I get my hands wet with getting involved in helping the process and where can i start reading about how all the meego processes work? Jul 13 11:05:34 zx2c4: #meego-arm is a good place Jul 13 11:05:39 and we being the people making the hw adaptation Jul 13 11:05:40 cool Jul 13 11:06:07 Stskeepz: but who is that -- community members? or nokia employees? is there a designated team, or is it just people with the know-how loosely connected Jul 13 11:06:47 zx2c4: well, we're a community project (ie, unsupported, you can't call nokia care) but we're a group of people doing it, some/most of us paid to do so (and because we think it's fun) Jul 13 11:07:13 cool Jul 13 11:07:14 Your order has been sent on 13.7.2011. Please see the order information below. Jul 13 11:07:16 \o/ Jul 13 11:07:24 CONGRATS Jul 13 11:07:25 nice Jul 13 11:07:42 Stskeepz: are tehre documents on how the devices work that I can read? Jul 13 11:07:55 zx2c4: not sure if there's so much info on n950 yet Jul 13 11:08:02 can anyone copy the files inside /etc/zypp/repos.d/ for me? Jul 13 11:08:06 or at least the oss repo Jul 13 11:08:23 Stskeepz: shucks. how come? people havent written it or nokia hasnt released? Jul 13 11:08:27 [sorry i have tons of questions] Jul 13 11:08:54 zx2c4: wiki.meego.com/ARM/N950 Jul 13 11:09:57 Stskeepz, what were you pondering about the invar? Jul 13 11:10:41 lcuk: i'll elaborate a bit when i have the right things in place :) Jul 13 11:11:34 * Stskeepz waits on his n8x0 kernel build Jul 13 11:11:36 ok Jul 13 11:11:59 i have first meego usbimg created simply Jul 13 11:12:14 http://wiki.meego.com/Image_Creation_For_Beginners Jul 13 11:12:14 supposedly there is cpufreq/dvfs support for n8x0 now in modern kernels Jul 13 11:12:19 that could revive the poor things Jul 13 11:12:23 these instructions are not quite right though Jul 13 11:12:31 mine is revived already Jul 13 11:16:48 can anyone copy the content of the oss repo from /etc/zypp/repos.d in meego 1.2.0 please? Jul 13 11:17:28 luist, i was just reading the .ks file for 1.2 netbook Jul 13 11:17:30 http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/releases/1.2.0/images/meego-netbook-ia32/meego-netbook-ia32-1.2.0.ks Jul 13 11:17:38 inside there is the list of repositories I believe Jul 13 11:18:09 lcuk: it was through accelerometer or camera dots, btw? Jul 13 11:18:20 camera Jul 13 11:18:25 accelerometer is not accurate enough Jul 13 11:18:28 ok Jul 13 11:18:38 that works if you put 9 devices together Jul 13 11:18:43 lcuk: true but i dont need only the url.. i need mostly the right gpg key tag Jul 13 11:48:54 Hi! I have NVidia ION on Zotac Zbox running superbly using HDMI with Meego netbook build Jul 13 11:49:30 on the other hand, i am grappling with Open GL ES 2 for meego IVI.. and Qt Open GL for the same box Jul 13 11:50:35 would anyone here know what to do for those... i was wondering if I should try finding libEGL.so and libGLESv2.so for the NVIDIA ion..any help would be appreciated Jul 13 12:28:16 hey guys Jul 13 12:28:34 what is the UI toolkit used on n950 Jul 13 12:28:38 is it qt or hildon Jul 13 12:28:41 or something else Jul 13 12:28:48 not hildon, thank god Jul 13 12:29:30 Qt, MTF and QML Jul 13 12:30:57 MTF ? Jul 13 12:31:22 libmeegotouch Jul 13 12:31:42 ah ok Jul 13 12:31:54 thiago, because i wrote an app in qt but it does not look very native in there Jul 13 12:31:55 :) Jul 13 12:32:17 using QWidget? Jul 13 12:33:34 thiago, i think so Jul 13 12:34:23 then that was your mistake Jul 13 12:34:41 we tried really hard to make it look native, but QWidget is just too limited Jul 13 12:36:05 thiago, so porting to MTF seems like the only solution huh Jul 13 12:36:05 ? Jul 13 12:36:21 or to QML (Components) Jul 13 12:36:22 safer Jul 13 12:36:27 hmmmmmmm Jul 13 12:36:30 i wrote it in pyside Jul 13 12:45:45 thiago, how does qt look native on other oses then? Jul 13 12:46:11 styles, but they didn't manage to get it stable enough on harmattan Jul 13 12:47:02 lcuk: limited OSs Jul 13 12:47:27 fair enough Jul 13 12:47:35 how do non-qt apps look on it? Jul 13 12:47:53 as ugly or uglier Jul 13 12:48:01 the plainqt style at least gets the colours right Jul 13 12:48:39 i suppose for games and stuff (SDL) it won't matter Jul 13 12:49:26 right Jul 13 12:53:34 I thought MTF was more or less obsolete? Jul 13 12:57:11 vvaltone: it is Jul 13 12:58:19 there is that rather broken mtf theming for qt too, but that never worked in a way you'd want to show off to anyone Jul 13 12:59:12 that's the plainqt style Jul 13 13:13:12 Hi! Does anybody have this "osc" tool installed ? I need some help about libxml2 on Harmattan. The OBS webinterface cannot really do anything with for one reason. Jul 13 13:13:26 * with libxml2 Jul 13 13:15:37 djszapi: what does OBS have to do with Harmattan? Jul 13 13:16:01 thiago: there is a harmattan target. Jul 13 13:34:38 hi guys. I am trying to run an application using openglgraphicssytem. The application is not launched and the error shown is this libEGL fatal: DRI2: failed to authenticate. I am using meego from chroot. Any one faced similar issue before?? Jul 13 13:35:01 my os is ubuntu 10.10 Jul 13 13:35:09 berndhs, you re making a us spin! Jul 13 13:37:19 lcuk: not just US, world-wide :) Jul 13 13:38:03 berndhs, one thing about yacht interface is less internet reliance I gather Jul 13 13:38:05 X-Fade do you have any idea for this libxml2-dev issue ? Jul 13 13:38:41 lcuk: yes the off-vehicle net is not as reliable Jul 13 13:38:42 djszapi, X-Fade gave you a suggestion yesterday Jul 13 13:38:44 https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20971#c3 Jul 13 13:38:47 Bug 20971 cri, Undecided, ---, maemo, ASSI, libxml2 dependency installation does not work on Harmattan target Jul 13 13:39:11 lcuk: yes, I already answered that. Jul 13 13:39:20 you said you had no time to try it. Jul 13 13:39:28 still stick by. Jul 13 13:39:42 and I do not really see how it would help with anything. Jul 13 13:40:45 .o/ Jul 13 13:43:06 hiya CosmoHill Jul 13 13:45:56 djszapi, the debian.tar.gz file in your package is not a .tar.gz? Jul 13 13:47:58 people, what graphical browsers does exist for meego? Jul 13 13:48:08 lcuk: your mean ? Jul 13 13:48:09 fennec, meego ux browser, helium , .. Jul 13 13:48:10 etc Jul 13 13:48:22 great, fennec! greeeat! Jul 13 13:48:33 I hope rekonq will be ported :p Jul 13 13:48:46 * thiago hopes grob is opensourced Jul 13 13:49:13