**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 29 02:59:56 2011 Jul 29 03:12:22 AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'Arch_armv7hl' Jul 29 03:12:31 any help? Jul 29 04:11:40 Mitnick: --run-mode=1 Jul 29 04:13:57 sofar: we're adding nfs? i thought sshfs was the future :) Jul 29 04:16:49 Stskeeps: is mcompositor still being used for UXes going forward? Jul 29 04:17:18 Stekeeps: thx Jul 29 04:17:25 Stekeeps: i will try Jul 29 04:17:47 TSCHAKeee: don't know about tablet ux, but one of the plans was to move tablet ux to wayland Jul 29 04:18:02 *nod* ok Jul 29 04:18:25 Stskeeps: i am investigating options for LinuxMCE, we need a replacement window manager and compositor until Wayland is usable. Jul 29 04:18:56 i really wanna use wayland but there isn't enough there yet that we can move our stack over yet, some stuff still being written Jul 29 04:19:11 that..and..well..the vast majority of our installed base use NVIDIA cards Jul 29 04:19:11 matchbox? ;p Jul 29 04:19:28 be serious Jul 29 04:19:32 ;) Jul 29 04:20:48 sorry, 6:20am, not possible Jul 29 04:20:49 :P Jul 29 04:22:06 Stekeeps: thx,fixed Jul 29 05:08:09 Ulf^: 'have choice for pkgconfig(gdk-pixbuf-2.0) >= 2.14: gtk2-devel gdk-pixbuf-devel' Jul 29 05:08:17 seeing that in tumbler Jul 29 05:48:34 and good morning Jul 29 07:09:37 MeeGo as a business thing should totally switch to the OpenSurface model. Companies don't care about the underlying stuff anyway!!!!1111!!!one! Jul 29 07:10:05 oh dear Jul 29 07:11:53 dm8tbr: what triggered that? Jul 29 07:13:13 oscon Jul 29 07:14:28 Myrtti: /. topic Jul 29 07:14:42 right Jul 29 07:18:41 * Stskeeps investigates the costs of an OBS in ze cloud Jul 29 07:20:14 Stskeeps: talk to Viltapi, he wrote his thesis about it :) Jul 29 07:25:30 oh cool Jul 29 07:25:34 in finnish? Jul 29 07:27:05 I already asked in #harmattan, but maybe it's better to ask here: I've got a package in OBS which appears listed in building state in the overview page, but if you enter in the log page, it's on "updating". After leaving it overnight in that state, it just timed out.. Jul 29 07:28:17 osc abortbuild maybe Jul 29 07:36:29 Stskeeps: thesis is in english Jul 29 07:36:38 ok Jul 29 07:43:45 :-P achipa Jul 29 07:44:03 :P Jul 29 07:44:22 Hervanta ♥ Jul 29 07:45:17 I was just thinking 'hey that girl looks like myrtti...' :) Jul 29 09:00:24 once created a raw image with mic-image-creator, can I resize it so that I get more space when I run it under kvm? Jul 29 09:15:19 hello everyone@! Jul 29 09:16:08 about meego, have some new information some body knows?!share to everybody Jul 29 09:21:50 new info on what topic? how the wayland stuff is progressing? latest test results from tablet builds? or something else? Jul 29 09:23:15 wiki.meego.com and lists.meego.com are good places to follow the project Jul 29 09:23:19 all the secret open source!!!!!1one! Jul 29 09:23:25 :) Jul 29 09:26:55 * timoph forgot to mention qa-reports.meego.com Jul 29 09:58:53 That Cordia project is very interesting Jul 29 09:59:21 Is that a direct port of Hildon Desktop to MeeGo, or is it a reimplementation in QtQuick ? Jul 29 09:59:54 port Jul 29 10:00:27 Is Hildon Desktop on free mantle GTK+/Hildon based or Qt based ? Jul 29 10:01:36 gtk+ Jul 29 10:01:40 well, clutter to be specific.. Jul 29 10:02:07 I thought it was clutter based but then was shot down by someone when I said that Jul 29 10:24:30 http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/OMAP4_Panda#Issues.2FRemarks Jul 29 10:24:35 any help? Jul 29 10:26:00 The current build doesn't start X correctly automatically. Jul 29 10:26:02 X can be run by logging in on tty or via serial port (The password is set in the Panda.ks.in file, initially "meego"). Jul 29 10:26:02 Start runlevel 3 "init 3" after that "startx &". Jul 29 10:26:31 what's that mean? i did this , but no graphic output Jul 29 10:30:30 Mitnick: try #meego-arm Jul 29 10:30:52 CosmoHill: thx Jul 29 10:39:36 the api in c.obs is not public correct? Jul 29 10:39:59 arfoll, what do you mean? Jul 29 10:40:15 as in linking to the packages on there from another obs? Jul 29 10:41:11 Stskeeps, exactly Jul 29 10:41:18 i guess you can try with /public ? Jul 29 10:41:40 Stskeeps, still asks for a paswd Jul 29 10:41:48 odd Jul 29 10:42:18 basically i wanted to know if that was by design and if so request a second OBS account because i'd rather not have my passwd visible to everyone on this OBS.... Jul 29 10:44:33 arfoll: I think that is more a bug than anything else. Jul 29 10:45:00 morning X-Fade, how goes it? Jul 29 10:45:46 lcuk: fighting annoying configs, breaking things. The usual :) Jul 29 10:46:53 lcuk: And decided that the spotify theme for today was 80s hits. Jul 29 10:47:08 X-Fade, yes the usual and nice theme Jul 29 10:47:12 X-Fade, ok so i can assume it'll be fixed soon? or can i get a second account? Jul 29 10:47:29 hopefully the cheesy tunes will help fixup some of the bugs Jul 29 10:47:42 arfoll: That should just work yes, but I need to figure out why it doesn't. Jul 29 10:48:00 lcuk: Oh yes, pleny of cheesy songs for sure. If it helps ... well. Jul 29 10:48:46 X-Fade, ok cool Jul 29 10:49:46 X-Fade, like your helicopter, adjust the trim, check the alignments are keep it steady :D Jul 29 11:11:51 is there a reliable way to detect the host OS from within a makefile? Jul 29 11:13:15 lcuk: duno but sounds like fun Jul 29 11:13:50 check via uname? Jul 29 11:14:13 uname -s ? Jul 29 11:14:43 or do you mean ubuntu, fedora, slax etc? Jul 29 11:15:35 maemo/meego/ubuntu etc Jul 29 11:16:04 lcuk: have you heard of phpsysinfo? that works out what the host distro is Jul 29 11:16:14 it looks at various /etc/*release files Jul 29 11:16:40 trigger:~ nate$ ssh blue cat /etc/bsl-release Jul 29 11:16:40 2008.08 Felix Development Jul 29 11:17:42 lcuk: it's possible that they have #define _UBUNTU somewhere Jul 29 11:18:54 CosmoHill, apologies, ubuntu is less the problem Jul 29 11:19:25 * CosmoHill doesn't use any of them :) Jul 29 11:19:29 maemo/meego.netbook/meego.n900-ce/meego-n950-ce/harmattan are most common Jul 29 11:19:56 does it have to be the make file could? it not be the spec file? Jul 29 11:20:18 harmattan uses debian Jul 29 11:20:34 does the make file even have to detect it or could it provide multiple targets? eg "make meego" Jul 29 11:20:41 and in part the makefile has to know to use or not osso Jul 29 11:22:53 thanks for hints though, will see later on Jul 29 11:26:31 * CosmoHill has become confused and thinks maybe a configuration file would help Jul 29 11:28:34 CosmoHill, build time files, parts of the compilation need to know if libosso is available, and as a workaround in the app, screen pixel resolution needs tweaking in meego and harmattan Jul 29 11:30:28 * lcuk takes a step back and looks sideways at how to cure bug 13084 Jul 29 11:30:30 Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13084 maj, Medium, ---, liquid, ASSI, [n900] Horizontal tearing with xvimagesink Jul 29 12:32:45 timoph, oooh you are looking at plasma ux this weekend! awesome Jul 29 12:33:10 yeah Jul 29 12:33:24 plenty of screenshots! Jul 29 12:33:33 timoph, most of the things you have ported from qt into meego Jul 29 12:33:41 are you having to write the .spec file yourself Jul 29 12:33:46 or does qt creator now do it for you? Jul 29 12:33:54 if it runs smoothly enough (YMMV) i was planning on doing a short video Jul 29 12:34:10 cool Jul 29 12:34:40 lcuk: yeah and for some things I did very small changes to the code Jul 29 12:34:55 orientation, full screen, etc. Jul 29 12:35:19 timoph, yeah to which part, making .spec yourself or qt creator doing it for you? Jul 29 12:35:23 even more reason to chat with the guys ;) Jul 29 12:35:42 *ducks* ;) Jul 29 12:35:51 * timoph gets the hint and joins #active Jul 29 12:35:56 anyway, lunch! :D Jul 29 12:36:06 *giggles* :) Jul 29 12:53:12 * CosmoHill has solved Project Eular problem 7 :D Jul 29 12:54:35 we always knew you were smarter than Euler Jul 29 12:55:47 ^.^ Jul 29 12:55:48 lol Jul 29 12:57:44 CosmoHill, the last question on Project Fermet is a bit tough Jul 29 13:02:20 lbt: I got pulled away before I said thank you for setting up my Community OBS account the other day. Jul 29 13:02:23 lbt: Thank You. Jul 29 13:02:37 mtd: np :) Jul 29 13:08:09 lcuk: I'm stuck on question 10 Jul 29 13:14:53 hey guys im a total newb with meego, fortunately i install the codec i want but i really need PPTP VPN but it seems there is no option available for that what should i do? Jul 29 13:20:01 dattebayo, hm, which UX did you install? Jul 29 13:20:07 ie which computer Jul 29 13:20:39 u mean version>? Jul 29 13:20:44 i dont follow Jul 29 13:21:35 netbook? Jul 29 13:21:39 yea Jul 29 13:21:58 albanc, nice job ! Jul 29 13:22:53 stormer, thanks! Do you know how to upstream that? Should I email marcel.holtmann@intel.com? Jul 29 13:24:10 upstream what? Jul 29 13:24:55 if it's a change against some meego component, make a merge request? Jul 29 13:26:30 the upstream repository is git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/network/connman/pacrunner.git Jul 29 13:31:10 guys is .ymp installable on meego? Jul 29 13:31:24 what is .ymp? Jul 29 13:31:29 that probably answers "no" Jul 29 13:32:18 ymp in opensuse they are the file installation with Yast manager Jul 29 13:32:30 Yast package manager? Jul 29 13:32:35 MeeGo uses Zypper Jul 29 13:32:51 i did a search aabout pptp vpn connection and lead me her http://apps-beta.meego.com/applications/meego/1.1/netbook/internet/Pptp/ Jul 29 13:33:03 and the file is .ymp thats y im asking Jul 29 13:45:43 i need help :(( Jul 29 13:48:19 a xml repospec? Jul 29 14:22:46 hi Jul 29 14:22:59 so for the meego netbook update 1.2.0.1 Jul 29 14:23:05 it seems that the adobe update is broken Jul 29 14:23:20 everytime i try to update to the newest update in the adobe repo, it tells me public key not found Jul 29 14:23:22 and thus cannot update Jul 29 14:23:33 I use zypper dup to do taht Jul 29 14:23:46 after disabling adobe repo however, im able to update to 1.2.0.1 Jul 29 14:24:55 * CosmoHill cackles Jul 29 14:25:44 * hatake_kakashi fisheyes, and wonders off Jul 29 14:57:21 how can i have PPTP VPN on my meego? Jul 29 14:57:26 i use netbook 1.2 Jul 29 14:59:03 I don't know if you can Jul 29 15:01:12 i found a page that except .rpm gives me ymp its in meego sites Jul 29 15:03:40 Can I mix id based translations and source text based translations? (ts file allows both, but lrelease has the -idbased option) Jul 29 15:08:44 Ok, I can mix them ... :) Jul 29 15:29:12 meego.com is still not doing TLS handshake correctly ? Jul 29 15:30:20 or was that a webkit issue, i don't remember Jul 29 16:13:36 berndhs, n950 still not opening meego.com is facepalmish Jul 29 16:14:12 lcuk: that's just because you know it's not real meego, I'm sure it prefers maemo.org Jul 29 16:21:18 it's homeless :) Jul 29 16:26:28 ShadowJK: Harmattan? Yes, I guess it's a poor homeless kid Jul 29 16:27:51 i think they will sell all the N9s they can make Jul 29 16:28:44 can, or will make? It's like they're actively trying to sabotage it at the same time Jul 29 16:28:52 can make Jul 29 16:29:28 its probably still a dead end if they stick to the current plans, but such is life Jul 29 16:29:54 but thats just speculation Jul 29 16:30:45 Internet seems full of people who want to buy it, but Nokia will not and has no plans to sell them one. dunno how that will work out :) Jul 29 16:30:52 berndhs, i think with searay being essentially the same hardware (at least from external) that the expectation to produce a whole series is there Jul 29 16:31:28 quite likely they dont want to dry up their prospecive WP market with this device Jul 29 16:32:02 So in fighting whether Nokia would make qualcom phones, or MS would make their os work on more than one cpu, nokia won? Jul 29 16:33:17 remains to be seen, perhaps HTC won :) Jul 29 16:33:29 or the rest of them Jul 29 16:34:08 No I mean between MS and Nokia Jul 29 16:34:21 hm, windows on a phone, it's already slow enough on the desktop... *shudders* Jul 29 16:34:54 dyrvere, its ok, the searay comes with a dedicated Ctrl+Alt+Del button Jul 29 16:35:26 cool! that's useful :) Jul 29 16:35:28 the blogosphere guessing that it is a camera button were mistaken ;) Jul 29 16:36:36 god damn rpm spec files Jul 29 16:38:39 lcuk: you can do yaml files instead :) Jul 29 16:38:44 i'm tired of messing with my fedora machines and mozilla crap Jul 29 16:38:44 Why did you select rpm's for meego btw? Jul 29 16:38:55 anyone? Jul 29 16:38:57 i should move forward and make a meego desktop Jul 29 16:39:02 define "you" Jul 29 16:39:07 timoph, will those be simpler? Jul 29 16:39:15 lcuk: afaik yes Jul 29 16:39:17 the one who made the choice. Why rpm? Jul 29 16:39:22 to create test case for the bug I have to package it Jul 29 16:39:26 rpm is slightly cleaner than deb, thats basically why Jul 29 16:39:45 its still dirty :) Jul 29 16:39:57 so why not tar.xz? not secure enough, even more dirt? :p Jul 29 16:40:01 dyrvere, rpm is the moblin Jul 29 16:40:21 it is the packaging format of choice according to LSB Jul 29 16:40:43 but I'd guess the main reason was moblin Jul 29 16:41:01 moblin and opensuse/novell probably Jul 29 16:41:13 hehe, good to know who to slap. Jul 29 16:41:17 dyrvere: long story short, there was a better, open source toolkit, suited for enterprise and production use, revolving around rpm, such as OBS, MIC2, etc.. Jul 29 16:41:47 can I put a bounty (of a pint at next conf visited) upon .spec file for libliqbase and liqbook Jul 29 16:42:08 but anyway. I used to resist rpm but after doing some packaging with it I actually think it's easier than deb Jul 29 16:43:11 at least the problems in rpm packing are in one spec file, not in a handful of cooperating files Jul 29 16:43:22 yep Jul 29 16:43:49 but in reality both formats have their ups and downs Jul 29 16:46:32 timoph, is this valid folder layout for spec stuff it is the current contents of the pristine .tar.gz (simplified): Jul 29 16:46:41 libliqbase/ Jul 29 16:46:41 libliqbase/debian Jul 29 16:46:42 libliqbase/include Jul 29 16:46:42 libliqbase/media Jul 29 16:46:42 libliqbase/src Jul 29 16:46:42 libliqbase/Makefile Jul 29 16:46:46 libliqbase/libliqbase.spec Jul 29 16:46:56 * timoph kicks lcuk for flooding Jul 29 16:47:05 pastebin! Jul 29 16:47:07 anyway.. Jul 29 16:47:12 lcuk: http://wiki.meego.com/Spectacle Jul 29 16:48:06 ooh, reading now (and apologies for flood) Jul 29 16:48:11 :) Jul 29 16:49:55 lcuk: here's a live example - https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=prelink.yaml&package=prelink&project=home%3Astskeeps&srcmd5=b4cc1da948f3da074be69c6b608d4fad Jul 29 16:50:31 * timoph knows Stskeeps is using yaml files so knew where to look :) Jul 29 16:50:37 hola :) Jul 29 17:47:16 how do I set a static ip from the command line? Jul 29 17:47:32 do I just create /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/route-eth0 ? Jul 29 17:52:09 that didn't work either Jul 29 17:52:10 damnit Jul 29 17:59:35 so there's no way to configure an interface to always us a static ip? Jul 29 17:59:48 jedix: one second Jul 29 18:00:31 /etc/sysconfig/network-devices/ifconfig.eth0 Jul 29 18:00:36 try in there Jul 29 18:01:09 okay, thanks Jul 29 18:01:20 should end with .ipv4 Jul 29 18:02:15 ifconfig.eth0 or the address? Jul 29 18:02:34 ifconfig.eth0 is a folder for that device Jul 29 18:03:11 okay.. is there a doc on this? Jul 29 18:03:49 http://cross-lfs.org/view/svn/x86/network/network-static.html Jul 29 18:03:51 try that Jul 29 18:04:17 thnaks Jul 29 18:06:58 CosmoHill: that didn't work either :/ Jul 29 18:07:12 oh Jul 29 18:07:15 worth a go Jul 29 18:07:41 yeah :/ Jul 29 18:07:44 i think connman steps on that one Jul 29 18:08:17 yeah, I have no idea how to set connman to a static ip Jul 29 18:08:26 especially via command line Jul 29 18:08:45 the applet lets you do it in netbook, havent found anything in tablet Jul 29 18:09:13 what files does it change under the hood? Jul 29 18:09:49 no idea Jul 29 18:24:28 apparently it's somethign to do with /var/lib/connman Jul 29 18:27:48 Anybody know when the 1.2 SDK Update (with 11.04 support) is scheduled to drop? Jul 29 18:28:00 ...Ubuntu 11.04, that is. Jul 29 18:33:56 jedix: maybe something like http://pastebin.com/K5ZpgYKc in default.profile ? Jul 29 18:34:13 jedix: adjusting the IPs and such of course Jul 29 18:36:23 berndhs: I was hoping to keep it generic to device name so the image could work on more than just one device Jul 29 18:36:27 looks like connman can't do that. Jul 29 18:36:45 not that I know of Jul 29 18:37:45 there is a Qt API package for connman, eventually someone will write a CLI version Jul 29 18:38:31 thanks Jul 29 18:45:52 jedix: the connman CLI tools are in a package called connman-test Jul 29 18:46:30 jedix: I also think I saw some conversations a few months ago that static IP addresses is a known-to-not-be-quite-right limitation of connman. Jul 29 18:46:59 lbt: I wonder why c.obs live build log shows the log for some other build than mine Jul 29 18:47:23 following an old link? Jul 29 18:47:40 https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=meego-terminal&project=home%3Atimoph%3Aharmattan&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan Jul 29 18:47:48 Search results for "connman-test " (0) Jul 29 18:47:48 shows me kde getting build Jul 29 18:48:32 ok ... that's odd Jul 29 18:49:00 yep Jul 29 18:49:41 yeah, setting in via the default thing fails Jul 29 18:49:49 screw it, I'll just put it in rc.local Jul 29 18:50:59 connman is broken and has no easy way to set what I want Jul 29 18:53:23 jedix: connman-test is in the repos. Don't know why you can't find it. Jul 29 18:53:44 jedix: Once installed there are several scripts in a folder called something like /usr/share/connman/ Jul 29 18:53:54 perhaps because it's built from the connman srpm? Jul 29 18:55:06 jedix: huh? Jul 29 18:58:34 gabrbedd: I searched in obs, but the package is created by the srpm in connman Jul 29 18:59:49 jedix: okay... I guess I don't understand what you're trying to do. Jul 29 18:59:57 * gabrbedd only caught the tail end of the convo. Jul 29 19:00:22 I was trying to set a static ip Jul 29 19:00:26 I just tried the script Jul 29 19:00:34 Setting IPv4 address 192.168.1.101 for /profile/default/ethernet_020000000000_cable Jul 29 19:00:37 Segmentation fault Jul 29 19:00:40 :/ Jul 29 19:01:49 Right... that 's what I thought. I don't understand what that has to do with the SRPM or OBS. :-) Jul 29 19:04:22 ah, the connman-test is generated from srpm of connman, but I searched for it on OBS, which would not return anything Jul 29 19:21:35 Hi, I am trying to find out if evolution data server address book for Meego IVI supports all the possible fields in PBAP vcard transfers. Anyone know ? Jul 29 19:44:53 Hi everyone... Jul 29 19:45:07 Is there a MeeGo version to use on common notebooks? Jul 29 19:45:41 you could run netbook ux Jul 29 19:45:44 I really like the interface and the dynamics of this system, but I tried to use the netbook version in a HP Notebook and I meet a lot of bugs... Jul 29 19:46:02 people have xfce and other WMs Jul 29 19:46:09 dscorzoni: you can run Meego Netboot on any netboot with intel processor and graphics Jul 29 19:46:10 did anyone get the mail from Quin Gil todat about N950 device program? Jul 29 19:46:16 supported_processors? Jul 29 19:46:19 it's not really intended as a linux distro, but you can do so Jul 29 19:46:24 http://wiki.meego.com/Supported_Processors Jul 29 19:46:26 Yes, I have a Core i3 processor... Jul 29 19:46:30 cos^: prolly everyone in the programme did Jul 29 19:46:35 but I found some bugs... Jul 29 19:46:40 * CosmoHill looks at cos& Jul 29 19:46:51 the system crashers, for example, when I access the ntfs partition... Jul 29 19:47:03 cos^: it's a secret, dont tell the rest of us Jul 29 19:47:05 The system stop completely... Jul 29 19:47:28 (sorry about my poor english...) Jul 29 19:47:51 Qgil sent a mail reminding that people who received the n950 should update the wiki page Jul 29 19:47:53 i'm in the lazy wiki editors list, but i have no clue what to do Jul 29 19:48:05 cos^: did you receive your device? Jul 29 19:48:13 dm8tbr: no Jul 29 19:48:17 cos^: hi, have your received your device? Jul 29 19:48:37 afaik i ordered it from developer.nokia.com Jul 29 19:49:02 is it possible to confirm it somehow? the site is very confusing Jul 29 19:49:04 CosmoHill, sometimes, the system becomes very very very slow... Jul 29 19:49:18 So, I installed the Xubuntu Linux again... Jul 29 19:49:21 cos^: you better know what you have done if you want to get it :) please move your record accordingly under http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Community_device_program/Nokia#Still_pending Jul 29 19:49:31 But I really like the MeeGo interface... Jul 29 19:49:57 And the integration with social networks and instant messaging... Jul 29 19:50:02 cos^: did you go through here? https://forumnokia.secure.force.com/apex/ProductDetailByName?productName=Nokia+N950 Jul 29 19:50:26 cos^: what's your name in that wiki page? Jul 29 19:50:51 cos^: sorry for the many questions, I just want to make you you'll get a device Jul 29 19:50:54 hello qgil, have you managed to solve the QtCreator->OBS stuff? Jul 29 19:51:00 dm8tbr: yep Jul 29 19:51:05 qgil: Ville Ranki Jul 29 19:51:29 Venemo: nope, I'm putting my time writing the code mikhas needs to do a usable app to be uploaded to OBS :) Jul 29 19:51:33 qgil: no hurry, i'm going for vacation trips so i wouldn't have time to develop anything next month Jul 29 19:51:41 okay qgil :) Jul 29 19:52:04 cos^: well, if you haven't ordered the N950 then you must be in a hurry, otherwise you risk not getting the device at all Jul 29 19:53:04 cos^: according to the Nokia Developer info I have, you should be able to order the device Jul 29 19:55:24 cos^ conclusion: make sure you have done your homework before holidays ref Nokia Developer & wiki page, otherwise it may well happen that you don't have device anymore when you're back - seriously Jul 29 19:55:49 i might have missed some e-mail or something if i hadn't ordered it. now it is ordered and i'll move myself in wiki to pending Jul 29 19:56:03 cos^: good :) Jul 29 19:58:19 qgil: done. Jul 29 19:58:56 cos^: thx Jul 29 20:03:22 qgil: i might have been confused by the empty "A Nokia N950 is waiting for you" message.. did it mean i'd need to order now? Jul 29 20:04:01 yes Jul 29 20:04:20 cos^: others might know bettert Jul 29 20:04:28 the process since I haven't ordered any :) Jul 29 20:17:42 hello all Jul 29 20:26:15 chaviness++ Jul 29 20:33:14 That new ThinkPad tablet looks like a perfect MeeGo target. Jul 29 20:33:19 Though Tegra 2 kinda sucks. Jul 29 20:39:04 shouldn't we expect a lot more tegra 2 in future meego tabs? Jul 29 20:46:07 GeneralAntilles, Trimslice Tegra2 now has hardfp drivers according to Brendan LeFoll. !! Jul 29 20:46:43 http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Smart_TV_for_Trimslice Jul 29 20:47:06 Alison_Chaiken, \o Jul 29 20:47:08 Thx vgrade1, was just struggling for URL. Jul 29 20:47:57 Just bought the stupid Snowball and already have the stupid Panda w/o hardfp. Ugh, devices piling up! Jul 29 20:48:10 Don't give me an N950, I'll hit you. Jul 29 20:48:40 Alison_Chaiken, I saw the snowball realease, so much for the pre release promises Jul 29 20:48:51 vgrade1, yep. Jul 29 20:49:47 Alison_Chaiken, don't loose heart, I waited 6 months for tegra drivers Jul 29 20:50:25 wonders why he's vgrade1 Jul 29 20:51:21 ah two instances, only one visible Jul 29 20:57:56 vgrade1, one instance can go to the pub while the other wrestles the TV UX onto the trimslice. Jul 29 21:49:00 Alison_Chaiken, :) Jul 29 21:52:45 vgrade1, knowing you waited 6 mos for drivers on tegra is supposed to make me take heart? I'm already 49 and can't wait much longer! Jul 29 22:01:31 i hate those screensavers that slowly fade to black, and won't let you stop them Jul 29 22:01:44 i can just hear the maniacal laughter Jul 29 22:04:19 I hate them too Jul 29 22:05:19 * gabrbedd writes a screen save with slow fade to cheshire cat grin Jul 29 22:12:57 gabrbedd, that would be easy Jul 29 22:13:34 gabrbedd: write on that looks like the windows 98 installation screen Jul 29 22:14:40 * SpeedEvil wonders what speed of x86 ARM can emulate with the latest mobile cores. Jul 29 22:15:03 ARM emulating x86? Jul 29 22:15:10 yes Jul 29 22:15:45 I'm pretty sure I've seen someone run windows 98 on a sony ericson] Jul 29 22:16:50 I've seen someone runing OSX on N900 ;-D Jul 29 22:17:26 so my question is: which level of emulation is that? Jul 29 22:18:27 like a second core, or microcode, or rather like qemu? Jul 29 22:20:30 anyway now this gibberish on #harmattan about x86 binaries under harmattan makes some sense all of a sudden Jul 29 22:21:12 Alison_Chaiken, I get frustrated as well with the situ sometimes Jul 29 22:22:08 oops #maemo Jul 29 22:22:22 vgrade1, htc flyer. Jul 29 22:22:33 is there any real hope of getting meego running well on it? Jul 29 22:22:42 * CosmoHill found the list of all the community OBS domain name suggestions Jul 29 22:22:51 lcuk, hi Jul 29 22:23:11 hi, apologies for popping random technical q Jul 29 22:23:24 good to see you in the maemo video Jul 29 22:23:27 * lcuk just pondering Jul 29 22:23:38 heh yeah we had a great time with that Jul 29 22:24:40 well i have winXP on my n950 : http://rzr.online.fr/q/rdp#more :) Jul 29 22:24:45 if the flyer had an unlocked bootloader and can flashboot it maybee possible Jul 29 22:24:48 * lcuk has been tinkering with polyfill Jul 29 22:24:57 vgrade1, it has dual format screen Jul 29 22:25:06 capacitive + stylus Jul 29 22:25:09 * lcuk drools Jul 29 22:25:23 lcuk, thats got to be something to repeat for MeeGo Jul 29 22:25:39 well I am going buying one asap Jul 29 22:25:46 lcuk: are there some accurates stylus for capacitives ? Jul 29 22:25:47 yes I've used one, drawing Jul 29 22:26:17 how accurate is it ? 50 pixels ? Jul 29 22:26:24 lcuk, I'll have a look around see if there are any Android ROM;s Jul 29 22:26:27 rzr using a capacitive stylus is like using a fat marker pen Jul 29 22:26:35 if there are then we're good to go Jul 29 22:26:46 cool Jul 29 22:27:00 perhaps we could get one on DDP Jul 29 22:27:37 sitting in the garden using my ideapad for reading is one thing Jul 29 22:27:45 lcuk: so we can forget all menu based desktop apps Jul 29 22:27:46 and i still grab my n900 out for notes Jul 29 22:28:09 rzr to be fair to capacitive Jul 29 22:28:17 lcuk: is the acpi working on ideapad ? Jul 29 22:28:20 you can write with finger a couple of words on n950 for instance Jul 29 22:28:28 rzr, acpi? Jul 29 22:28:31 fan Jul 29 22:28:37 yes Jul 29 22:28:38 is still on on mine Jul 29 22:28:49 i disabled it from going to suspend with lid closed Jul 29 22:29:01 because I keep opening closing it whilst walking and stuff Jul 29 22:29:09 so i wanted device to just remain on Jul 29 22:29:16 without the fan working it would get hot Jul 29 22:30:09 the hindge looks week i would avoid to open/close it too much Jul 29 22:30:23 hinge is quite nice Jul 29 22:30:25 hinge Jul 29 22:30:33