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Feb 13 12:20:56 <childeb2> hello
Feb 13 12:21:54 <caplink811> hi..
Feb 13 12:22:36 <childeb2> I have a couple of questions...
Feb 13 12:22:49 <caplink811> will try to answer a few
Feb 13 12:23:12 <childeb2> If I create a file using ssh or ftp, I can see it in Windows Exploder.
Feb 13 12:23:31 <childeb2> If I pop a command prompt, cd to that directory and do a dir, that file is not there
Feb 13 12:24:04 <childeb2> I have win32 unix commands installed and if I do ls, I can see the files from command prompt
Feb 13 12:24:32 <childeb2> Why can't dir list these files?
Feb 13 12:24:44 <caplink811> nice behaviour ;-) i think something is wrong with your directory permissions
Feb 13 12:26:16 <caplink811> or much easier, have you tried a "ls -la", and what you mean, create a file using ssh?
Feb 13 12:27:01 <childeb2> For example, I get an unslung package list and then cp it to /share/hdd/date/somefoler
Feb 13 12:27:37 <childeb2> the 'dir' command doesn't list this file.
Feb 13 12:28:10 <caplink811> dir on dos/win or dir on shell?
Feb 13 12:28:29 <childeb2> dir on win (winxp command prompt)
Feb 13 12:29:07 <caplink811> and yxou do a dir \\myshare\somefolder ?
Feb 13 12:29:16 <caplink811> s/yxou/you
Feb 13 12:29:28 <childeb2> yes
Feb 13 12:29:40 <caplink811> stay tuned, must try that
Feb 13 12:30:00 <childeb2> thanks
Feb 13 12:31:11 <caplink811> another question, get an unslung package list means ipkg list > /share/hdd/data/somefolder/mylist ?
Feb 13 12:31:52 <childeb1> yes
Feb 13 12:34:42 <caplink811> ok from the slug
Feb 13 12:35:07 <caplink811> [root@linus conf]$ ipkg list > /share/hdd/data/mp3/mybla
Feb 13 12:35:20 <caplink811> [root@linus conf]$ ls -la /share/hdd/data
Feb 13 12:35:34 <caplink811> drwxrwxr-x  30 admin everyone   4096 Feb 13 21:27 mp3
Feb 13 12:35:45 <caplink811> and now from win cmd
Feb 13 12:36:21 <caplink811> D:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\joerg.INFOSERVER>dir \\linus\mp3
Feb 13 12:37:17 <caplink811> 13.02.2005  21:27            10.714 mybla
Feb 13 12:37:29 <caplink811> so i think, it works for me
Feb 13 12:37:54 <caplink811> what are the permissions of /share/hdd/data/somefolder?
Feb 13 12:38:55 <childeb1> the 'somefolder' has admin/everyone
Feb 13 12:39:26 <childeb1> but the file is root/root
Feb 13 12:39:33 <childeb1> k
Feb 13 12:39:53 <childeb1> when i log in as admin, i can nolonger do ipkg list
Feb 13 12:40:14 <caplink811> that's right cause youre the owner of the file
Feb 13 12:40:32 <caplink811> ipkg, may be don't know whos own ipkg
Feb 13 12:41:21 <caplink811> it's executable by everybody
Feb 13 12:42:44 <caplink811> but my setup here is possibily not the same as yours
Feb 13 12:43:40 <caplink811> i've another user e.g. joerg witch have also root permission, and this is the user which is logged on on the win machine
Feb 13 12:44:18 <childeb1> that may be it
Feb 13 12:44:23 <childeb1> I am an admin
Feb 13 12:44:29 <childeb1> not root
Feb 13 12:44:49 <childeb1> when I ssh to the slug, I am root, which is why I have permission problems
Feb 13 12:45:05 <childeb1> when moving files into the windows visible area
Feb 13 12:45:43 <caplink811> so i think on a NAS it isnt usefull to work as another user than root (IMHO)
Feb 13 12:46:00 <caplink811> give it a try and login as root
Feb 13 12:46:31 <childeb1> Now, your windows user, does that user have root permissions?
Feb 13 12:46:48 <childeb1> I am assuming you are using windows, correct?
Feb 13 12:47:11 <caplink811> on slug, yes... xp pro yes
Feb 13 12:48:07 <caplink811> and he have also group membership administrators at samba
Feb 13 12:51:00 <caplink811> try another user with only user privilegs, one moment please
Feb 13 12:51:40 <childeb1> I have to step out for ~20 minutes. I will be back.
Feb 13 13:44:28 <caplink811> so tried another user, everything works fine "elke" can echo something to /share/hdd/data/mp3 an in a dos box i can list that file
Feb 13 13:47:33 <ByronT> having problems, caplink?
Feb 13 13:48:11 <caplink811> no. not me, talking to childeb1 
Feb 13 13:48:12 <childeb1> I am the owner of the files, the group is everyone and permissions are 777 and I still cannot see these files with a dir command
Feb 13 13:48:14 <caplink811> thx
Feb 13 13:48:24 <ByronT> ah...
Feb 13 13:48:44 <ByronT> smb config error that was introduced somewhere along the line
Feb 13 13:48:48 <ByronT> I had it too
Feb 13 13:49:19 <childeb1> is that for me?
Feb 13 13:49:22 <ByronT> yes
Feb 13 13:49:52 <childeb1> Is there a way to fix this?
Feb 13 13:50:17 <ByronT> basicly, the samba config is being told to interpret other execute (on share) as "system" on windows/dos
Feb 13 13:50:33 <ByronT> let me grab the scripts I ran to change permissions to work
Feb 13 13:50:42 <childeb1> k, thanks
Feb 13 13:51:00 <childeb1> another q. is there a .rc file where I can create alias'es
Feb 13 13:51:16 <caplink811> childeb1: explain it pls
Feb 13 13:51:18 <childeb1> eg. ll -> ls -lt
Feb 13 13:51:30 <caplink811> do you use bash or sh?
Feb 13 13:51:30 <childeb1> when I log into the slug, I want to have an alias ll
Feb 13 13:51:33 <childeb1> sh
Feb 13 13:52:00 <childeb1> alias ll='ls -ltr'
Feb 13 13:52:25 <caplink811> bash ca do that, if sh can, i don't know...
Feb 13 13:52:34 <ByronT> childeb1, warning,,, these scripts can take a while to run
Feb 13 13:52:54 <childeb1> ok
Feb 13 13:52:57 <ByronT> find . -type d -exec chmod 775 {} \;
Feb 13 13:53:10 <ByronT> that will get the folders to the correct permissions
Feb 13 13:53:37 <ByronT> find . -type f -exec chmod 760 {} \;
Feb 13 13:54:03 <ByronT> that will change ALL files (but not folders) to working permissions
Feb 13 13:54:36 <ByronT> we really need to get a slugbug filed on that samba problem
Feb 13 13:55:24 <caplink811> childeb1: found that for sh and aliases http://www.mcsr.olemiss.edu/cgi-bin/man-cgi?sh
Feb 13 13:56:11 <childeb1> thanks for the link, will check it out.
Feb 13 13:56:22 <caplink811> childeb1: but imho it's more comfortable to use bash
Feb 13 13:57:10 <childeb1> Use .bashrc file for aliases in bash?
Feb 13 13:57:17 <caplink811> childeb1: there you could define aliases in /etc/profile or ~/.bashrc similar to alias "ll=ls -la"
Feb 13 13:57:49 <caplink811> childeb1: .bashrc, yes, works fine for me
Feb 13 13:58:57 <childeb1> How do you change to bash.
Feb 13 13:59:45 <caplink811> childeb1: ipkg install bash ;-)
Feb 13 14:00:51 <caplink811> childeb1: and, if you not be user root, change the loginshell to /opt/bin/bash in /etc/passwd and the other places.
Feb 13 14:06:04 <childeb1> its not reading my .bashrc
Feb 13 14:06:10 <childeb1> located in /root/.bashrc
Feb 13 14:09:12 <caplink811> yeah, here it's "execute" /etc/profile /root/.profile and /root/.bashrc, did you do a logoff and logon?
Feb 13 14:09:40 <caplink811> and these file should readable by you..
Feb 13 14:09:46 <caplink811> s/file/files
Feb 13 14:10:48 <childeb1> .profile worked
Feb 13 14:10:55 <childeb1> thanks
Feb 13 14:13:46 <caplink811> childeb1: gonna be out f town for one to three days, but wanna lookup and test your smb problem with another machine, and another use, but maybe took awhile
Feb 13 14:14:19 <ByronT> caplink811, I can confirm the prob with smb
Feb 13 14:14:41 <caplink811> ByronT: fine that save me work
Feb 13 14:14:48 <ByronT> I had it and those scripts should allieviate the issue (group execute is a bad boy right now)
Feb 13 14:15:10 <childeb1> ahh
Feb 13 14:15:40 <childeb1> thanks for the help.
Feb 13 14:16:18 <caplink811> ByronT: ok, gonna learn more, everyday, everywhere ;-) aeh, allieviate? english is not my native
Feb 13 14:16:19 <ByronT> I'm going to dig into CVS and see if I can find something...
Feb 13 14:16:28 <caplink811> gonna ask a dictionary
Feb 13 14:16:33 <ByronT> alleviate - resolve, take care of
Feb 13 14:16:39 <caplink811> thx
Feb 13 14:17:29 <caplink811> in my TZ it's time to say good nite all, so, nite all
Feb 13 14:18:03 <childeb1> thanks again.
Feb 13 14:18:06 <childeb1> nite
Feb 13 14:18:30 <caplink811> de nada ?!
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