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Mar 01 09:13:19 <Kirk_22> hey guys - do you know if there is a smbclient and nmblookup binary or a slug?
Mar 01 09:13:36 <Kirk_22> err or=for
Mar 01 09:18:13 <ByronT> I would think that the samba ipk package would include it, but since I do not use smb, I cannot answer definitely
Mar 01 09:26:38 <Kirk_22> is the samba ipkg different from what's already on the slug
Mar 01 09:27:17 <ByronT> the Linksys stock f/w is samba 2.x (I don't remember)
Mar 01 09:27:29 <ByronT> the samba ipk is 3.0.x
Mar 01 09:28:23 <Kirk_22> is the upgrade a no-brainer install or could I run into problems?
Mar 01 09:28:46 <ByronT> well, you would lose the web interface that linksys provides
Mar 01 09:28:57 <grimreap> anyone have this problem, im playing a mp3 off my nslu2 and it just stops playing and starts skipping like a broken record, I press stop and play again and it plays fine
Mar 01 09:28:58 <grimreap> also when connected via ssh I just randomly loose my connection to it, its been doing it for like a week now
Mar 01 09:29:01 <ByronT> welcome grimreap
Mar 01 09:29:20 <ByronT> grimreap, wireless or wired
Mar 01 09:29:24 <grimreap> its wired
Mar 01 09:29:33 <ByronT> what are you using to stream?
Mar 01 09:29:45 <grimreap> nothing its not streaming
Mar 01 09:29:46 <Kirk_22> thanks Byron
Mar 01 09:30:06 <grimreap> I double click on the file and winamp opens it and plays it =]
Mar 01 09:30:27 <grimreap> well maybe thats streaming heh I dunno
Mar 01 09:30:30 <ByronT> Kirk_22, you could install the samba 3, and use the wiki to let ppl know what happens
Mar 01 09:31:19 <ByronT> grimreap... nope, that's not really streaming, that's just plain access
Mar 01 09:31:27 <grimreap> yeah
Mar 01 09:31:41 <grimreap> could be any mp3 thats playing
Mar 01 09:31:43 <ByronT> and it sounds like your home network is either congested or the slug is having issues with
Mar 01 09:31:55 <grimreap> im the only one on the home network
Mar 01 09:31:56 <ByronT> bandwidth
Mar 01 09:32:07 <grimreap> and its the only thing the nslu2 is doing
Mar 01 09:32:20 <ByronT> playing one mp3 via a share shouldn't be an issue
Mar 01 09:32:34 <grimreap> yea I know it never used to do it, started like a week ago
Mar 01 09:32:42 <grimreap> its like real random too
Mar 01 09:33:09 <ByronT> it'd be a bugger to determine what really is happening
Mar 01 09:33:17 <ByronT> could be the hd
Mar 01 09:33:17 <grimreap> maybe im loosing the connection to it?
Mar 01 09:33:27 <grimreap> yea maybe
Mar 01 09:33:36 <ByronT> could be the interface between the slug and the switch/hub
Mar 01 09:33:57 <grimreap> think I should try another one?
Mar 01 09:33:57 <ByronT> you're a windows user, I take it?
Mar 01 09:34:03 <grimreap> yea mostly
Mar 01 09:34:24 <ByronT> what firmware?
Mar 01 09:34:32 <grimreap> 3.17 I think
Mar 01 09:34:44 <grimreap> V2.3R25-uNSLUng-standard-3.17-beta
Mar 01 09:34:55 <grimreap> didnt think the 3.18 looked worthwhile to upgrade to
Mar 01 09:35:17 <ByronT> you could certainly try... it could be as simple as fragmentation issues
Mar 01 09:35:50 <ByronT> or the slug or hd is overheating...
Mar 01 09:35:52 <grimreap> how can I defrag it?
Mar 01 09:36:11 <grimreap> the harddrive doesnt run that warm
Mar 01 09:36:31 <ByronT> IIRC, you would have to hook up hd to a linux box with a defrag util
Mar 01 09:36:44 <grimreap> oh
Mar 01 09:36:50 <ByronT> or move the mp3s off and then back on
Mar 01 09:37:04 <grimreap> well my freebsd box has usb ports
Mar 01 09:37:18 <grimreap> it took like 12 hours to move them on to it hehe
Mar 01 09:37:36 <ByronT> like I said, it could be a real bugger to run down
Mar 01 09:37:59 <ByronT> lots of stuff to try and only use could tell you if you corrected it
Mar 01 09:38:01 <grimreap> maybe it'll fix itself =]
Mar 01 09:39:24 <ByronT> all I can really say is "good luck" and update the wiki if you find a definitive answer
Mar 01 09:40:27 <Kirk_22> what's a good linux defragger?
Mar 01 09:40:38 <grimreap> wonder if its just me only having the problem
Mar 01 09:40:59 <ByronT> probably not
Mar 01 09:41:34 <ByronT> I've personally seen some issues on one particular nslu2 - but usually when I connect to it wirelessly
Mar 01 09:42:05 <Kirk_22> I've been getting some sporatic drops when copying large amounts of small files from win2k 
Mar 01 09:43:12 <chrta> Kirk_22 me, too. even with the original linksys fw and opneslug
Mar 01 09:43:52 <ByronT> in openslug, we might be able to fix the problem... chrta is helping in that regard
Mar 01 09:44:14 <Kirk_22> I'm thinking that something is timing out - I wonder if there's a registry setting 
Mar 01 09:44:52 <chrta> my nslu2 crashes if i copy many files...
Mar 01 09:47:40 <chrta> btw: linksys knows this. i called the german support yesterday...
Mar 01 09:49:56 <grimreap> I copied about 15,000 files almost 75 gigs at once and it didnt crash
Mar 01 09:50:30 <chrta> wow, mine always crashed after about 2gigs
Mar 01 09:50:46 <chrta> linksys fw 23R25 and R29
Mar 01 09:50:57 <grimreap> im using the unslung
Mar 01 09:51:07 <grimreap> I never used the linksys firmware
Mar 01 09:51:39 <grimreap> you should try it
Mar 01 09:52:02 <chrta> what fw do u use?
Mar 01 09:52:05 <grimreap> the linksys firmware also didnt support my external harddrives
Mar 01 09:52:10 <grimreap> V2.3R25-uNSLUng-standard-3.17-beta
Mar 01 09:52:43 <chrta> i also tested unslung3.18...
Mar 01 09:52:52 <grimreap> oh really
Mar 01 09:52:55 <grimreap> wow thats weird
Mar 01 09:53:12 <grimreap> are the files really large in size?
Mar 01 09:53:33 <chrta> no, 1 to 8 mb
Mar 01 09:53:51 <grimreap> weird
Mar 01 09:54:06 <grimreap> maybe you can send it back and get a new one?
Mar 01 09:55:31 <chrta> no, i dont think its a harware problem. the linksys support told my the will fix the problem in the next fw... In the meantime i own a cheap embedded dev board :)
Mar 01 10:02:06 <caplink811-away> grimreap: have you upnp support on the slug disabled ?
Mar 01 10:02:16 <grimreap> no its turned on
Mar 01 10:02:46 <caplink811-away> try to turn it off, if you don't need it, may help to solve your drop out problem
Mar 01 10:02:49 <grimreap> I dont know why I have it on I dont use it
Mar 01 10:02:54 <grimreap> ok will do thanks
Mar 01 10:09:01 <grimreap> chrta, if its not a hardware problem how come everyone doesn't have the problem?
Mar 01 10:09:33 <ByronT> not everyone uses their nslu2s the same way
Mar 01 10:10:23 <grimreap> have you tried to ftp the data to it? or just doing it through samba?
Mar 01 10:10:45 <ByronT> I use mine as nfs and via scp
Mar 01 10:10:46 <chrta> only samba at the moment
Mar 01 10:11:17 <grimreap> hmm
Mar 01 10:11:35 <caplink811-away> chrta: smb3.0 i guess?
Mar 01 10:11:40 <chrta> yes
Mar 01 10:11:52 <chrta> 3.0.10 in openslug
Mar 01 10:12:02 <grimreap> I can't access my nslu2 through windows using the name I gave it, even though it shows up in networking places
Mar 01 10:12:06 <grimreap> I have to connect to it via it's ip
Mar 01 10:12:22 <caplink811-away> chrta: the problems occurs with openslug also?
Mar 01 10:12:48 <chrta> yes, the box locks up
Mar 01 10:13:10 <grimreap> are you sure your external cases are fully supported?
Mar 01 10:13:16 <chrta> i cannot acces it via the ethernet interface -> im soldering...
Mar 01 10:13:24 <caplink811-away> grimreap: you mean something like \\myslug\myshare in explorer ?
Mar 01 10:13:28 <grimreap> yeah
Mar 01 10:13:44 <grimreap> it shows up there, but says network path not found when I try to access it
Mar 01 10:13:49 <chrta> dont know, but a incompatible case should not crash the whole box
Mar 01 10:13:59 <caplink811-away> grimreap: who resolve your names in the net? your router?
Mar 01 10:14:13 <grimreap> I thought it was a dns problem
Mar 01 10:14:16 <grimreap> no idea heh
Mar 01 10:14:50 <caplink811-away> grimreap: tell me something about your network (configuration)
Mar 01 10:14:58 <chrta> my case uses a cypress chipset, should be very common
Mar 01 10:15:01 <grimreap> I dont think my router supports that
Mar 01 10:15:34 <grimreap> I have 3 windows xp boxes, a freebsd box, the nslu2 all connected to a router
Mar 01 10:16:10 <caplink811-away> grimreap: so try to setup the name of the slug in the host table on your win box
Mar 01 10:16:31 <caplink811-away> grimreap: \winnt\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
Mar 01 10:16:34 <grimreap> yeah
Mar 01 10:16:37 <grimreap> I think I did try that
Mar 01 10:16:39 <chrta> isn't the hostname published via samba in windows networks?
Mar 01 10:16:54 <grimreap> i'll try it again
Mar 01 10:17:36 <grimreap> I probably shouldn't have any spaces in the nslu2 name, right?
Mar 01 10:18:40 <grimreap> ah it does work! heh
Mar 01 10:19:31 <grimreap> sweet
Mar 01 10:22:32 <caplink811-away> grimreap: yes, use nospaces in hostnames
Mar 01 10:23:28 <caplink811-away> grimreap: so you could edit your hosts file on every of your boxes, or you can figure out, who resolve the names on your net
Mar 01 10:23:53 <grimreap> yeah
Mar 01 10:24:12 <grimreap> isn't there a master browser ?
Mar 01 10:24:21 <caplink811-away> chrta: my icy cases use a cypress set too, and everything works fine
Mar 01 10:24:45 <chrta> i own a icy case, too
Mar 01 10:24:54 <caplink811-away> isn't a masterbrowser problem, it's dns
Mar 01 10:25:28 <grimreap> I never setup dns on any computer here
Mar 01 10:25:43 <chrta> do u use dhcp?
Mar 01 10:26:23 <grimreap> yeah my router does the dhcp
Mar 01 10:27:33 <caplink811-away> grimreap: so there should be an option to tell your router a ip-adr to name convertion
Mar 01 10:28:42 <grimreap> Address Reservation
Mar 01 10:28:42 <grimreap> When you specify a reserved IP address for a PC on the LAN, that PC will always receive the same IP address each time it accesses the DHCP server. Reserved IP addresses should be assigned to servers that require permanent IP settings.
Mar 01 10:28:52 <grimreap> would that be it? thats the only thing I remotely see
Mar 01 10:29:38 <caplink811-away> no, there you can define, that the same pc everytime gets the same ip from the dhcp adress range
Mar 01 10:29:46 <grimreap> yeah
Mar 01 10:30:01 <grimreap> I dont see any ip to name stuff
Mar 01 10:30:01 <caplink811-away> which model you own?
Mar 01 10:30:48 <grimreap> netgear web safe rp614v2
Mar 01 10:31:54 <caplink811-away> with wlan support?
Mar 01 10:32:13 <grimreap> yeah I think so
Mar 01 10:37:11 <lalle__> hi
Mar 01 10:37:29 <chrta>  hello
Mar 01 10:38:30 <lalle__> I have a question and i hope someone could answer it. I instaled nslu2-linux and now i want to unslung... Is it possible to format the disk in this mode? Could i just use the management interface
Mar 01 10:39:39 <caplink811-away> lalle__: have you search the wiki?
Mar 01 10:39:53 <lalle__> Searched for format, got lots of responses
Mar 01 10:39:54 <lalle__> =)
Mar 01 10:40:19 <caplink811-away> read the doc which come with the unslung firmware?
Mar 01 10:40:43 <lalle__>      - If the disk has not been previously formatted on the NSLU2, then now is
Mar 01 10:40:46 <lalle__>           the time to do that.  Make sure that the drive is recognized in the
Mar 01 10:40:49 <lalle__>           web interface.
Mar 01 10:41:13 <caplink811-away> so you should do that now, before you unsling ;-)
Mar 01 10:42:14 <lalle__> Okej, using the webinterface then
Mar 01 10:42:25 <caplink811-away> grimreap: :-( your router doesn't support it
Mar 01 10:42:55 <grimreap> oh well, 5 bucks on ebay heh
Mar 01 10:43:18 <lalle__> Never used it, still copy from the old disks to make a backup... Will the disk be one big partition or will it have a system partion?
Mar 01 10:43:40 <grimreap> I dont understand how the other windows pc's i'm able to connect to fine without them being in the hosts file, I use my ISP's name servers so how am I able to resolve those names to ip addresses?
Mar 01 10:43:52 <caplink811-away> grimreap: so i suggest, you should define the dhcp ip adress of the slug in your router, and then edit all your hosts files on the other boxes
Mar 01 10:44:26 <caplink811-away> grimreap: you can ping each pc from each other using the name instead of ip adr?
Mar 01 10:44:27 <grimreap> yeah sounds like a good plan
Mar 01 10:44:42 <grimreap> yeah
Mar 01 10:44:46 <grimreap> using the name to ping works fine
Mar 01 10:45:01 <caplink811-away> can you ping the slug with name?
Mar 01 10:45:15 <grimreap> well now I can since its in the hosts file
Mar 01 10:45:28 <caplink811-away> from another pc than that, with the edited hosts file ;-)
Mar 01 10:45:50 <grimreap> nope doesn't work doing that way
Mar 01 10:46:00 <grimreap> ohh with the edited hosts file
Mar 01 10:46:22 <caplink811-away> no its ok, meaning without
Mar 01 10:47:11 <grimreap> yeah it works fine with it in the hosts file from another pc
Mar 01 10:47:14 <lalle__> if i format the disk, will it be one big partion or could i use a slice for unslung?
Mar 01 10:47:19 <lalle__> just wondering
Mar 01 10:47:22 <grimreap> but all my other computers aren't in the hosts file and I can ping those ok using the name
Mar 01 10:48:29 <caplink811-away> i my case i get a dynamic ip adr from my provider, and my router do nat, is yours so too, or get you static ip adresses from your provider?
Mar 01 10:48:58 <grimreap> I get dynamic I guess
Mar 01 10:49:12 <grimreap> the lease lasts like 2 weeks though and I can renew it forever
Mar 01 10:49:25 <grimreap> but if my routers mac address changes then i'd get a new ip
Mar 01 10:49:41 <caplink811-away> lalle__: have read http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/CustomSizedPartitions ?
Mar 01 10:50:56 <caplink811-away> grimreap: your bsd box running samba?
Mar 01 10:51:11 <grimreap> nope
Mar 01 10:51:53 <caplink811-away> and the bsd box can do a "name" ping also?
Mar 01 10:52:18 <grimreap> no hehe
Mar 01 10:52:24 <grimreap> id have to put them into the hosts file
Mar 01 10:52:32 <grimreap> its just the windows boxes that do it ok
Mar 01 10:53:59 <caplink811-away> grimreap: could be something ms special dunno
Mar 01 10:54:13 <grimreap> yeah probably
Mar 01 10:54:31 <ByronT> caplink811-away, it's more than likely a master browser situation in that the other pcs see a master browser that id's the slug, and the one that didn't - doesn't recognize the master browser
Mar 01 10:55:08 <ByronT> in that case, it's just easier to define a hosts file and get that hosts file to all clients
Mar 01 10:55:48 <grimreap> yeah but its not a big deal here cause i'm the only one that really uses it heh
Mar 01 10:56:09 <caplink811-away> grimreap: so give the slug and the bsd box a "static" dhcp adress in the router and do edit the hosts files
Mar 01 10:56:21 <grimreap> yeah =]
Mar 01 10:56:28 <grimreap> I already got the bsd box setup as that
Mar 01 11:15:46 <lalle__> caplink811-away: thanks a lot
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