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Mar 05 07:13:52 <caplink811-away> eyh, ByronT have you ever heard from a slug that wouldn't answer at a request on port 80?
Mar 05 07:14:15 <ByronT> it answers otherwise?
Mar 05 07:14:26 <ByronT> to ping, telnet/ssh, etc?
Mar 05 07:14:50 <caplink811-away> is linksys fw, but pinging is fine, and smb too
Mar 05 07:14:58 <caplink811-away> but no http
Mar 05 07:15:28 <caplink811-away> trying several pc's, trying direct connect, nothing works
Mar 05 07:15:30 <ByronT> hmmm.. nope, never heard of that
Mar 05 07:15:35 <caplink811-away> sh..
Mar 05 07:15:52 <caplink811-away> any ideas about that?
Mar 05 07:15:53 <ByronT> sounds as if the thttpd server has munched
Mar 05 07:16:07 <ByronT> check the logs
Mar 05 07:16:22 <caplink811-away> yeah, i think so too, but the guy has reflashed 2 or 3 times, meanwhile
Mar 05 07:16:47 <ByronT> it could be a bad slug (RAM chip with issues)
Mar 05 07:17:08 <caplink811-away> is the third slug meanwhile
Mar 05 07:17:25 <ByronT> his third slug?
Mar 05 07:17:44 <ByronT> network issue
Mar 05 07:17:50 <caplink811-away> yeah, reported the problem in the german forum, and tried everything
Mar 05 07:17:55 <caplink811-away> network, no
Mar 05 07:17:56 <ByronT> in corp or home environment?
Mar 05 07:18:04 <caplink811-away> tried it from different workstations
Mar 05 07:18:08 <caplink811-away> home
Mar 05 07:18:24 <ByronT> has he tried telnet ip.address. 80
Mar 05 07:18:31 <caplink811-away> yes
Mar 05 07:18:34 <ByronT> to see if the port shows?
Mar 05 07:18:42 <caplink811-away> portscan don't report an open port 80
Mar 05 07:18:54 <caplink811-away> port 25, 139
Mar 05 07:18:58 <caplink811-away> nothing else
Mar 05 07:19:18 <ByronT> eeek. something in the switch sounds like it's blocking port 80
Mar 05 07:19:42 <caplink811-away> i think so too, but now he used a crossover cable
Mar 05 07:20:07 <ByronT> has he got proxy server defined on his machines
Mar 05 07:20:28 <caplink811-away> think so yesterday, but he haven't
Mar 05 07:21:20 <ByronT> crossover cable with no proxy defined - that slug should start singing
Mar 05 07:21:30 <caplink811-away> and the guy is a little noob, so he tried now to telnet into redboot, think is time to give reset sysconf a try
Mar 05 07:22:22 <ByronT> but with linksys f/w.... how can you screw up the sysconf (without trying *real* hard)?
Mar 05 07:22:50 <caplink811-away> don't know, he swears, he had one time access to webinterface
Mar 05 07:22:56 <caplink811-away> only one time
Mar 05 07:23:10 <ByronT> he must have changed something in settings...
Mar 05 07:23:11 <caplink811-away> and only changed the name of the slug
Mar 05 07:23:16 <caplink811-away> he swears
Mar 05 07:23:22 <ByronT> hmmm
Mar 05 07:23:43 <ByronT> wonder if he changed hostname to something that was already on net
Mar 05 07:24:17 <caplink811-away> name is NSLU2, ip is 192.168.1.77
Mar 05 07:24:29 <caplink811-away> arp -a is also ok, no doubles
Mar 05 07:24:29 <ByronT> and if he's trying to connect via hostname - instead of ip in browser
Mar 05 07:24:56 <caplink811-away> hm, never tried, will advice him
Mar 05 07:25:39 <ByronT> the thing about noobs is that they do stuff that makes sorta sense.... until you realize how they did "stuff"
Mar 05 07:26:49 <ByronT> I can remember when I worked for IBM "MultiMedia Helpline"
Mar 05 07:27:12 <caplink811-away> yeah, but, i could not real see any changes
Mar 05 07:27:41 <caplink811-away> ByronT: if everything in configuration changed, the slug write this to sysconf, right?
Mar 05 07:27:45 <ByronT> part of the populace that we supported were kindergarten teachers - who were seeing/using pcs for the first time
Mar 05 07:28:00 <ByronT> yes
Mar 05 07:28:18 <caplink811-away> nice, in english is kindergarten kindergarten :-)
Mar 05 07:28:41 <ByronT> well IBM wrote instructions for noobs
Mar 05 07:29:02 <ByronT> example: 1 - Open top of diskette box
Mar 05 07:29:14 <ByronT> 2 - Take out disk one
Mar 05 07:29:47 <ByronT> anyways, one of my co-workers had been on the phone for over an hour, and was pulling his hair out over a call
Mar 05 07:30:11 <ByronT> he asked for my help, so I took it and got on the phone with the lady
Mar 05 07:30:51 <ByronT> rather than trying to figure out what had already been discussed, I told her that I wanted to start with her at ground zero...
Mar 05 07:31:09 <ByronT> what instructions did you follow and how did you follow them...
Mar 05 07:32:05 <ByronT> here's an important note... when IBM first started sending out 3.5" floppies, they always put them in throwaway plastic sleeves
Mar 05 07:32:35 <ByronT> so the third or fourth instruction was "remove disk from plastic sleeves"
Mar 05 07:32:41 <caplink811-away> aua ;-)
Mar 05 07:33:14 <ByronT> and when I asked *how* you did this instruction.... she said "it's funny you ask, it only took me 30 minutes and I had to use scissors...."
Mar 05 07:33:50 <caplink811-away> auaua ;-)
Mar 05 07:34:07 <ByronT> :)
Mar 05 07:34:23 <caplink811-away> now the slug beebs at startup and will not finish :-(
Mar 05 07:34:40 <caplink811-away> don't know what he doas
Mar 05 07:34:48 <caplink811-away> s/doas/does
Mar 05 07:34:57 <ByronT> how long is he waiting for boot?
Mar 05 07:35:40 <ByronT> beeps at startup and does not finish = trashed sysconf
Mar 05 07:36:13 <caplink811-away> gr, he had reflashed, led blink around 5 minutes, and he reboot
Mar 05 07:37:09 <ByronT> if he just reflashed.. then he may be able to do the reset sys conf - without hd attached - and boot normally
Mar 05 07:37:33 <caplink811-away> yeah, but he isn't able to boot in redboot :-(
Mar 05 07:37:59 <ByronT> he can't get redboot?
Mar 05 07:38:20 <caplink811-away> i think, he couldn't read the german manual to boot into redboot
Mar 05 07:38:34 <caplink811-away> it's the first problem to change the ip of his pc
Mar 05 07:39:42 <ByronT> he could see if where he bought it, will exchange it for him
Mar 05 07:40:15 <ByronT> or does linksys have a german helpline?
Mar 05 07:40:22 <caplink811-away> yeah, i think that's the best... what's about gorx, missed him realy
Mar 05 07:41:27 <ByronT> you were aware that he had told some of the devs that he "couldn't be bothered" to follow the directions in the wiki?
Mar 05 07:43:51 <caplink811-away> no, not read all logs.. he did, tsts
Mar 05 07:44:41 <caplink811-away> what i not understand, how ppl would participate on a community
Mar 05 07:45:41 <caplink811-away> without any "sake" ? to read something before
Mar 05 07:46:05 <ByronT> after he was warned, I think he finished what he was doing and left (and hasn't been seen since)
Mar 05 07:46:54 <caplink811-away> better for all concerned
Mar 05 07:47:23 <ByronT> it was rwhitby whom he told "he couldn't be bothered"
Mar 05 07:47:37 <caplink811-away> autsch
Mar 05 11:20:21 <peterroubos> just 1 quick question before I go and search. I can't seem to connect to my uNSLUnged box anymore... it seems to boot up ok, gives the ready "beep" signal, but can't even ping it...
Mar 05 11:20:32 <peterroubos> what's the first thing I should try?
Mar 05 11:21:31 <ByronT> "anymore" <- define.. is this a freshly unslung nslu2 or one that has been running for a while
Mar 05 11:21:52 <peterroubos> running for a while
Mar 05 11:22:36 <ByronT> so did you install a package and have to reboot or what?
Mar 05 11:22:57 <peterroubos> what happened was that Samba didnt run anymore, so I tried to install a new samba ipkg install samba, it stopped half way installing (without error) I rebooted and now I cant connect to it anymore
Mar 05 11:23:16 <ByronT> you were getting a "fail samba" error?
Mar 05 11:24:03 <peterroubos> nope, not that I know of
Mar 05 11:24:49 <ByronT> either way, it sounds as if your SysConf area is corrupted
Mar 05 11:25:03 <ByronT> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/FailSambaInformation
Mar 05 11:25:28 <ByronT> that has links to the "ResetSysConf" instructions
Mar 05 11:26:39 <peterroubos> I'll look into that (have to put the kids to bed first) thanx. And if all fail's I can alway's try to repair by going into redboot I guess
Mar 05 11:27:03 <ByronT> sysconf is separate from firmware
Mar 05 11:28:28 <peterroubos> ok thanks
Mar 05 20:49:15 <seanslattery> hey there
Mar 05 20:49:37 <seanslattery> has anyone updated their slug to run samba 3?
Mar 05 21:00:32 <seanslattery> i did the ipkg install & restarted, but no samba v3
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