**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 10 23:59:56 2005
May 11 12:52:41 <roel_san> hi all
May 11 12:52:49 <roel_san> i have a little question
May 11 12:52:56 <roel_san> i got my slug in the mail today
May 11 12:53:10 <ByronT> man, and I was all geared up for a monstrously big question
May 11 12:53:24 <roel_san> so i set it up to get used to how things work in preparation for installing unslug on it
May 11 12:53:49 <roel_san> byront: i'm just hoping the problem will turn out to be minor ;)
May 11 12:54:05 <roel_san> anyway, i'm trying to upgrade the (normal, linksys) firmware
May 11 12:54:10 <roel_san> through the web interface
May 11 12:54:24 <roel_san> the upgrade process has been going on for 20 minutes already
May 11 12:54:37 <ByronT> well, the good news is that all the problems with slugs ONLY 2 have been unrecoverable...
May 11 12:54:37 <roel_san> the top light on the slug is blinking green and red
May 11 12:55:02 <roel_san> and the webpage says 'loading'
May 11 12:55:10 <roel_san> but i was hoping for a 'finished' message :)
May 11 12:55:16 <ByronT> and one of those was because of a heat gun *treatment* and the other was because of bad soldering
May 11 12:55:20 <roel_san> should it take this long?
May 11 12:55:26 <ByronT> it can
May 11 12:55:33 <roel_san> well, i haven't done any of those yet ;)
May 11 12:55:50 <ByronT> blinking green and red usually means the slug is in upgrade mode
May 11 12:55:51 <roel_san> hmm well ok, i'll just keep waiting a while them
May 11 12:56:15 <roel_san> i'm afraid of doing much on my machine
May 11 12:56:16 <ByronT> go to www.nslu2-linux.org and search the wiki for Sercomm
May 11 12:56:37 <roel_san> because if I accidentally close the webbrowser, i'll have a problem i guess
May 11 12:56:42 <roel_san> yeah i just downloaded that
May 11 12:56:46 <ByronT> they have a Windows XP downloadable tool that can locate slugs in upgrade mode
May 11 12:57:02 <roel_san> ah
May 11 12:57:11 <ByronT> one thing to ALWAYS remember, do not have a HD attached when flahsing
May 11 12:57:21 <roel_san> so I can try that safely?
May 11 12:57:29 <ByronT> sure
May 11 12:57:40 <roel_san> hmm, should i have disconnected an hd before doing the upgrade?
May 11 12:57:44 <ByronT> yes
May 11 12:57:49 <roel_san> the config page didn't say so :/
May 11 12:58:00 <ByronT> yeah, Linksys doesn't say that
May 11 12:58:10 <ByronT> we do (many times over in our README)
May 11 12:58:18 <roel_san> yeah i know
May 11 12:58:27 <roel_san> i thought it was only for unslung upgrades
May 11 12:58:36 <roel_san> i'm an idiot sometimes
May 11 12:58:39 <roel_san> usually actually
May 11 12:58:42 <roel_san> anyway
May 11 12:58:54 <roel_san> should i just turn it off now and try the sercom thing?
May 11 12:59:01 <roel_san> or go for the sercom right away?
May 11 12:59:11 <ByronT> unplug the hd (it won't hurt)
May 11 12:59:23 <ByronT> and try the sercom utility
May 11 12:59:28 <roel_san> ok thanks
May 11 12:59:34 <roel_san> i'll be back ;)
May 11 13:06:22 <roel_san> hmm
May 11 13:06:33 <roel_san> looks like it can't find the slug
May 11 13:06:45 <roel_san> the 'devices list' is empty
May 11 13:07:16 <roel_san> it is the 'upgrade utility' that i need, right?
May 11 13:07:21 <ByronT> yesh
May 11 13:07:24 <ByronT> yes
May 11 13:07:32 <ByronT> you might need to change networks
May 11 13:07:45 <ByronT> in upgrade mode, the slug's IP is 192.168.0.1
May 11 13:09:15 <ByronT> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/RecoverFromABadFlash
May 11 13:09:33 <ByronT> there are the instructions to recover from a bad flash (which is what you've got)
May 11 13:10:26 <roel_san> yeah i'm following the instructions there
May 11 13:12:31 <roel_san> heh
May 11 13:12:40 <roel_san> turns out the flash hasn't gone bad yet
May 11 13:12:55 <ByronT> it was still flashing? :)
May 11 13:13:11 <roel_san> i pulled the plug on the slug, turned it back on and boom, it worked again
May 11 13:13:23 <ByronT> cool
May 11 13:13:23 <roel_san> i'll try upgrading the firmware with no hd plugged in
May 11 13:13:35 <ByronT> what f/w are you going to upgrade to?
May 11 13:13:43 <roel_san> 29
May 11 13:13:48 <roel_san> latest from linksys website
May 11 13:13:57 <ByronT> you do realize that R29 is hard to telnet into...
May 11 13:14:41 <caplink811> morning doco guy, how are you
May 11 13:15:02 <roel_san> byron: hmm no I didn't :)
May 11 13:15:19 <roel_san> i'll go back to an earlier one later
May 11 13:15:24 <roel_san> or something ;)
May 11 13:16:23 <roel_san> looks like it lost the admin password though
May 11 13:16:23 <ByronT> caplink811, alive... :)
May 11 13:16:52 <ByronT> after a firmware flash, the web interface p/w is going to be admin
May 11 13:18:04 <ByronT> caplink811, but just barely... trying to hack/cough up a lung here
May 11 13:18:48 * caplink811 calling dict.leo.org
May 11 13:19:48 <ByronT> <- is not feeling well
May 11 13:20:40 <caplink811> leo mention to it ... that's not realy fine
May 11 13:23:52 <roel_san> one last question
May 11 13:24:03 <roel_san> which unslung version should i use?
May 11 13:24:07 <ByronT> there's not a limit, but go ahead...
May 11 13:24:17 <roel_san> both th 3.x an 4.x series seem to be beta
May 11 13:24:20 <caplink811> at this time, and if this fit your needs, unslung 3.18
May 11 13:24:20 <ByronT> for first time use, go with 3.x
May 11 13:24:30 <roel_san> ok I will
May 11 13:24:32 <roel_san> thanks
May 11 13:24:33 <ByronT> 4.x binary isn't available yet
May 11 13:24:42 <roel_san> no i saw that
May 11 13:24:44 <ByronT> (or at least, it shouldn't be!)
May 11 13:24:54 <caplink811> :-)
May 11 13:24:56 <roel_san> i had a knoppix cd burned and ready to build it :)
May 11 13:25:05 <ByronT> ah
May 11 13:25:15 <roel_san> but i'll stick with binary releases for my first time
May 11 13:25:30 <ByronT> that's a good idea
May 11 13:26:37 <roel_san> thank a lot already for your help
May 11 13:26:47 <roel_san> i felt a bit nervous when the upgrade didn't work
May 11 13:26:56 <ByronT> it's not a problem... have fun slugging!
May 11 13:27:04 <ByronT> nah, it's really no worries
May 11 13:27:25 <ByronT> at least a 1000 users of f/w upgrades that we know of, and only two real deaths....
May 11 13:27:51 <roel_san> cool
May 11 13:28:02 <roel_san> the upgrade to fw29 didn't work though
May 11 13:28:14 <roel_san> and yet still the password was reset to 'admin'
May 11 13:28:16 <roel_san> ah well
May 11 13:28:25 <ByronT> real deaths mean that the slug can't be fixed....
May 11 13:28:55 <ByronT> (bad flashes don't count....)
May 11 13:36:40 <caplink811> ByronT, still here? what's with the click through thing, worked already?
May 11 13:37:26 <ByronT> not finished..... "yet" fixing up the license at the moment
May 11 13:38:10 <ByronT> things are in place for a release "soon" but there is a bit more work....
May 11 13:45:15 <roel_san> woohoo!
May 11 13:45:27 <roel_san> i got the firmware running
May 11 13:45:34 <roel_san> the web interface didn't work though
May 11 13:45:41 <roel_san> but the sercom utility did
May 11 13:48:36 <caplink811> r29, r25 or unslung?
May 11 13:50:20 <roel_san> unslung
May 11 13:52:15 <caplink811> nice
May 11 13:53:29 <roel_san> great thing to see a shell
May 11 13:54:04 <roel_san> now every now and then when I get frustrated with windows again, I can ssh into the slug and calm down a bit, staring at a bash prompt :)
May 11 13:55:24 <caplink811> under some circumstance it is coloured ;-)
May 11 13:56:57 <roel_san> where are kernel modules stored?
May 11 13:57:57 <caplink811> [root@linus modules]$ ls -la
May 11 13:57:57 <caplink811> total 6
May 11 13:57:57 <caplink811> drwxrwsr-x  1 root root    0 Jan  1  1970 .
May 11 13:57:57 <caplink811> drwxrwsr-x  1 root root    0 Jan  1  1970 ..
May 11 13:57:57 <caplink811> drwxrwsr-x  1 root root    0 Jan  1  1970 2.4.22-xfs
May 11 13:57:58 <caplink811> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 2068 Jan  1  1970 pbuttons.o
May 11 13:58:00 <caplink811> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 2920 Jan  1  1970 rbuttons.o
May 11 13:58:11 <caplink811> sorry, /lib/modules
May 11 14:00:19 <roel_san> ah yes
May 11 14:00:37 <roel_san> it's been a while since i messed with kernel modules manually
May 11 14:00:48 <roel_san> i'll have to get back into it a bit i'm afraid
May 11 14:01:03 <roel_san> i'm going to try to get a wireless network usb dongle to work
May 11 14:01:11 <roel_san> that is, when it arrives
May 11 14:04:01 <ByronT> caplink811, check PM
May 11 14:04:30 <caplink811> got it thx
May 11 14:14:06 <roel_san> if i want to log on over telnet, do I have to reboot without disks every time?
May 11 14:14:26 <roel_san> whoops sorry
May 11 14:14:33 <roel_san> faq #2 *blush*
May 11 14:36:17 <roel_san> what package do i need to install to get 'nslookup' or 'host' ?
May 11 15:10:38 <caplink811> imho, there's no package this time, which provide these programs
May 11 15:21:07 <roel_san> ah
May 11 15:47:02 <roel_san> well thanks guys, i've got it up and running
May 11 15:47:18 <roel_san> still messing with openssh and all but i'll work that out
May 11 15:47:51 <roel_san> if you even come to the south of the netherlands or north-east of belgium, let me know and i'll buy you beer :)
May 11 15:47:52 <roel_san> bye
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