**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 13 23:59:56 2005 Jun 14 03:27:30 if you do the disk 1 to disk 2 backup how doyouget your files back off disk 2? Jun 14 03:59:05 Hi Jun 14 03:59:36 I have just upgrade my NSLU2 to unslung 5.5 beta Jun 14 03:59:59 from unslung 4.20 Beta Jun 14 04:00:52 and now i can´t print from windows using the samba shared printer Jun 14 04:01:17 Anyone have the same problem?? Jun 14 10:47:37 anyone about? Jun 14 10:50:06 ok thats better Jun 14 10:50:17 anyone can spare a minute to help? Jun 14 10:50:26 any prblems? Jun 14 10:50:36 s/prblems/problems Jun 14 10:50:42 yup i am having issues unslinging Jun 14 10:51:07 and which one's Jun 14 10:51:15 ok Jun 14 10:51:21 i can telnet in Jun 14 10:51:34 and then unsling to disk Jun 14 10:52:01 but trying to change pwd locks me out Jun 14 10:52:36 i have just telneted in as root, and uNSLUng and connected the external drive Jun 14 10:52:41 at which kind, you've try to change the pw? Jun 14 10:52:50 telnet Jun 14 10:52:58 oops sorry Jun 14 10:53:12 no i was going to unsling the drive again to be safe Jun 14 10:53:25 nope, meaning by editing /share/hdd/conf/passwd, or use the shell script, provided in the wiki? Jun 14 10:53:38 but as this is maybe my 5th go i thought i would ask advice Jun 14 10:54:01 i was running passwd and following prompts Jun 14 10:54:03 talking about which unslung version? Jun 14 10:54:08 then doing a cp Jun 14 10:54:13 5.5beta Jun 14 10:54:17 k Jun 14 10:55:00 should i go ahead and re unsling the drive? Jun 14 10:55:25 1st, it is not neccessary to unsling each time the pw change went false, if you boot without hd attached, you should always loggin as root with uNSLUng as pw Jun 14 10:55:35 ok Jun 14 10:56:04 so you may try this now Jun 14 10:57:38 * caplink811_away clean the litter pan, back in 5 min Jun 14 11:03:59 wb Jun 14 11:04:12 Ho66es: the box boots without hd attached, and you can loggin as root, correct? Jun 14 11:04:28 yup Jun 14 11:04:34 i powered up the drive Jun 14 11:04:38 i can see it too Jun 14 11:04:52 i am still telnetted it Jun 14 11:04:55 i am still telnetted in Jun 14 11:05:04 k Jun 14 11:05:49 you can verify, that the disc is mounted with the mount command, which should give you a output like that Jun 14 11:06:01 /dev/sda1 on /initrd type jffs2 (rw) Jun 14 11:06:01 /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw) Jun 14 11:06:01 usbdevfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw) Jun 14 11:06:01 /dev/sda1 on /share/hdd/data type ext3 (rw) Jun 14 11:06:01 /dev/sda2 on /share/hdd/conf type ext3 (rw,sync) Jun 14 11:06:37 do you want me to paste? Jun 14 11:06:46 yes Jun 14 11:06:55 mount Jun 14 11:06:55 usbdevfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw) Jun 14 11:07:12 ooops damm / Jun 14 11:07:20 # mount Jun 14 11:07:29 ./dev/mtdblock4 on / type jffs2 (rw) Jun 14 11:07:33 you should use putty instead of win telnet, there is cut and paste much easier Jun 14 11:07:40 ./proc on /proc type proc (rw) Jun 14 11:07:44 yup i am Jun 14 11:07:52 but each line starts / Jun 14 11:08:02 usbdevfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw Jun 14 11:08:10 then you could enter // too escape the leading / Jun 14 11:08:11 ./dev/sda1 on /share/hdd/data type ext3 (rw) Jun 14 11:08:25 ./dev/sda2 on /share/hdd/conf type ext3 (rw,sync) Jun 14 11:08:33 i just shoved a . in Jun 14 11:08:41 that works too Jun 14 11:08:41 ok there ya go thats it Jun 14 11:08:54 5 lines Jun 14 11:09:13 the last two lines shows the data and the conf partition mounted as read write, thats ok Jun 14 11:09:35 ok Jun 14 11:10:21 so, as 1st try, you can copy your /etc/passwd (containing root->uNSLUng) to /share/hdd/data/etc/passwd and /share/hdd/conf/passwd Jun 14 11:10:56 and then you can boot with hd attached, the pw for root should then be uNSLUng Jun 14 11:11:18 # cp /etc/passwd /share/hdd/data/etc/passwd Jun 14 11:11:18 cp: unable to remove `/share/hdd/data/etc/passwd': Success Jun 14 11:11:50 unable, or success, curious Jun 14 11:11:56 # cp /etc/passwd /share/hdd/conf/passwd Jun 14 11:11:57 cp: unable to remove `/share/hdd/conf/passwd': Success Jun 14 11:12:01 same Jun 14 11:12:46 # ls -all /share/hdd/conf/p* Jun 14 11:12:46 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 330 Jun 14 18:36 /share/hdd/conf/passwd Jun 14 11:12:46 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 346 Jun 14 18:15 /share/hdd/conf/passwd.t Jun 14 11:12:57 localtime here is 19.12 Jun 14 11:13:03 k, and the same for /etc/p*. pls Jun 14 11:13:27 # ls -all /etc/p* Jun 14 11:13:27 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Jun 14 18:51 /etc/passwd -> /share/hdd/conf/passwd Jun 14 11:13:27 -rw------- 1 root root 330 Jun 14 18:15 /etc/passwd- Jun 14 11:13:27 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 /etc/printcap Jun 14 11:13:27 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1567 Jan 1 1970 /etc/protocols Jun 14 11:13:36 already on it Jun 14 11:14:02 sorry, my fault Jun 14 11:15:22 back on start :-(, boot without hd, telnet in, cp /etc/passwd -> /tmp/INeedThisFile , or something else, and then attach the hd Jun 14 11:15:55 ok need to reboot? Jun 14 11:16:27 yes, booting without hd, loggin in, cp, like i descrive above, and then put the hd on the box Jun 14 11:16:34 ok Jun 14 11:16:50 s/descrive/describe Jun 14 11:17:11 rebooting Jun 14 11:19:18 ok firing up hd Jun 14 11:19:27 stay Jun 14 11:19:44 you've cp ing the /etc/passswd to everywhere? Jun 14 11:19:58 to /tmp/NeedThisFile Jun 14 11:20:02 aeh, anywhere Jun 14 11:20:12 ok, we need this file Jun 14 11:20:17 ok Jun 14 11:20:41 hd mounted Jun 14 11:21:04 f te hd is mount rw,then you can cp your tmp file to /share/hdd/conf/passwd, and then we should have a wellknown password for user root Jun 14 11:21:04 cp /etc/passwd /tmp/NeedThisFile Jun 14 11:21:11 nope Jun 14 11:21:26 no thats what i did before mounting the hd Jun 14 11:21:33 k, Jun 14 11:22:03 so cp /tmp/NeedThisFile /share/hdd/conf/passwd Jun 14 11:22:52 no error or success msg Jun 14 11:23:14 just restart and see? Jun 14 11:24:13 yes Jun 14 11:24:22 with the hd attached Jun 14 11:24:43 restarting Jun 14 11:27:55 still not initialised Jun 14 11:28:25 can take a moment, which size your hd have? Jun 14 11:28:31 160 Jun 14 11:28:51 so, the quotacheck needs a moment Jun 14 11:28:54 gig that is Jun 14 11:28:58 ok Jun 14 11:29:52 may be usefull to divert rc.quota then there is no delay at startup Jun 14 11:30:05 hehehheh ok Jun 14 11:30:14 still waiting Jun 14 11:30:56 the slug has finished the startup, when the slug beeps one time Jun 14 11:31:13 ok no beeps yet Jun 14 11:31:34 disk light on ethernet flickering now and again, status off Jun 14 11:32:21 keep calm Jun 14 11:32:31 hehheh no probs Jun 14 11:32:59 sorry, ready/status led wen off? Jun 14 11:33:04 yup Jun 14 11:33:05 s/wen/went Jun 14 11:33:28 all other leds are also off? Jun 14 11:33:38 nope disk1 solid green Jun 14 11:33:45 ethernet mainly solid Jun 14 11:34:31 haven't seen this yet, status -> red/green flashing, ok, status amber, ok, but off, dunno Jun 14 11:35:08 want me to reboot without hdd or leave it a while Jun 14 11:35:21 hm, pull the power plug off, wait 5 sec, put it in back, and switch the slug on Jun 14 11:35:52 done (with hdd in) Jun 14 11:36:04 if the slug starts, and work on the startup scripts, the status led should be green. but not off Jun 14 11:36:49 as soon as it goes to access disk1 the led goes out and stays out Jun 14 11:38:39 gotta run my daughter to work, will you be around in 15-20 mins? Jun 14 11:38:46 k Jun 14 11:38:58 brb Jun 14 11:39:04 still here Jun 14 11:39:30 lol sorry she doesn't need to leaver for another 30mins Jun 14 11:39:55 which enclosure/hd combination you use? Jun 14 11:40:25 its a samsung 160 and a icybox usb/firewire Jun 14 11:40:50 a nice combination, icy box and a samsung 80 GB works well here Jun 14 11:41:07 want me to reboot with no hdd? Jun 14 11:41:18 o, usb/firewire, i'm only use a usb enclosure Jun 14 11:41:31 yes, pls, to verify that the box is ok Jun 14 11:42:24 its as if it goes to boot off the hdd and locks up Jun 14 11:42:32 but, i see no context in copy one file to the hd, and the hd want work anymore :-( Jun 14 11:43:02 :) Jun 14 11:43:16 i bet it mounts fine, ok just beeped Jun 14 11:43:29 sorry, english in't my native language, the box boots without hd, or the box wÃ¶n't Jun 14 11:43:46 ah, ok Jun 14 11:44:04 without hd Jun 14 11:44:14 ok i am in as root Jun 14 11:44:32 so attach the disc Jun 14 11:45:09 done Jun 14 11:45:28 ./dev/sda1 on /share/hdd/data type ext3 (rw) Jun 14 11:45:33 ./dev/sda2 on /share/hdd/conf type ext3 (rw,sync) Jun 14 11:46:06 one question , you've unslingÃng before with /sbin/unsling disk1, right? Jun 14 11:46:24 before -> sometimes before Jun 14 11:46:26 tonight yes , want me to redo? Jun 14 11:46:42 tonight is my 1st tiem trying Jun 14 11:46:47 time Jun 14 11:47:19 no, if there are folders like /share/hdd/data/etc or /share/hdd/data/bin, and a file /share/hdd/data/.sda1root, then everything is fine Jun 14 11:47:49 and /share/hdd/data/.unslung Jun 14 11:48:00 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1 Jun 14 18:32 .sda1root Jun 14 11:48:00 -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 25 Jan 1 1970 .unslung Jun 14 11:48:47 is there a boot log anywhere? Jun 14 11:48:58 and also some dirs bin sbin usr etc tmp var, and more? Jun 14 11:49:06 yup Jun 14 11:49:09 k Jun 14 11:49:17 -rw------- 1 root root 16096 Jun 14 19:44 quota.user Jun 14 11:49:17 -rw------- 1 root root 16096 Jun 14 19:44 quota.user~ Jun 14 11:49:17 drwxrwxr-x 2 root root 4096 Jun 14 18:32 sbin Jun 14 11:49:17 drwxrwxr-x 4 admin everyone 4096 Jun 14 18:32 share Jun 14 11:49:17 drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 4096 Jun 14 18:32 tmp Jun 14 11:49:18 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 1 1970 unslung Jun 14 11:49:20 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 1 1970 upload Jun 14 11:49:22 drwxrwxr-x 8 root root 4096 Jun 14 18:32 usr Jun 14 11:49:24 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 1 1970 var Jun 14 11:49:26 just some Jun 14 11:50:22 bootlog, yes, when booting without hd /var/log/messages when booting with hd, the same path, but pointing then to /share/hdd/data/var/log Jun 14 11:50:57 but in the 2nd case /share/hdd/data is / Jun 14 11:51:11 # ls -all /share/hdd/data/var Jun 14 11:51:11 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 1 1970 . Jun 14 11:51:11 drwxrwxr-x 20 admin everyone 4096 Jun 14 19:44 .. Jun 14 11:51:47 but you're in the 1st case, aka messages is in /var/log Jun 14 11:51:54 yup Jun 14 11:55:19 may be worth a try, to boot one more time with attached disc, and if this not works, thenn try another unsling.. Jun 14 11:56:06 ok Jun 14 11:56:15 i will try a complete power off Jun 14 11:56:41 * caplink811 is a lucky guy, haven't had those problems at any time ;-) Jun 14 11:57:42 wherer are u in the world? Jun 14 11:57:52 berlin, germany Jun 14 11:58:14 nice my daughter will be there in 8-9 weeks i think Jun 14 11:58:24 hm, cable.ntl.com -> us? Jun 14 11:58:39 belfast Northern Irelands Jun 14 11:58:48 -s at end :) Jun 14 11:59:02 europe, nice ;-) Jun 14 11:59:28 august, is a nice month to visit germany, not so could, and not so wet Jun 14 12:00:02 and beergardens everywhere Jun 14 12:00:57 yup she will be going to see the blue man group Jun 14 12:01:16 ok seems to have locked at same place in boot process Jun 14 12:01:22 a, berlin, potsdamer platz (place) Jun 14 12:02:02 nice Jun 14 12:02:55 then we should give unsling a second try, reboot, without hd, login as root, atach the hd, wait until the disc is rw mounted, and then /sbin/unsling disk1 Jun 14 12:03:25 ah, and before, delete /share/hdd/data/etc/passwd Jun 14 12:03:37 if there any errors in Jun 14 12:03:53 ok just beeped Jun 14 12:04:37 ok i am in Jun 14 12:05:00 going to attach hdd Jun 14 12:06:36 # rm /share/hdd/data/etc/passwd Jun 14 12:06:36 # Jun 14 12:06:47 go for the unsling? Jun 14 12:07:28 yes, but before rebooting after unsling, verify, that /share/hdd/data/etc/passwd is in place Jun 14 12:08:05 # /sbin/unsling disk1 Jun 14 12:08:06 Target disk is /share/hdd/data Jun 14 12:08:06 Copying the complete rootfs from / to /share/hdd/data. Jun 14 12:08:06 19196 blocks Jun 14 12:08:06 Preserving existing ipkg database on target disk. Jun 14 12:08:06 Linking /usr/bin/ipkg executable on target disk. Jun 14 12:08:08 Creating /.sda1root to direct switchbox to boot from /share/hdd/data. Jun 14 12:08:10 # Jun 14 12:08:31 you're to fast for me ;-) Jun 14 12:08:41 looks good Jun 14 12:08:46 # ls -all /share/hdd/data/etc/p* Jun 14 12:08:47 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Jun 14 20:07 /share/hdd/data/etc/passwd -> /share/hdd/conf/passwd Jun 14 12:08:47 -rw------- 1 root root 330 Jun 14 18:15 /share/hdd/data/etc/passwd- Jun 14 12:08:47 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 /share/hdd/data/etc/printcap Jun 14 12:08:47 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1567 Jan 1 1970 /share/hdd/data/etc/protocols Jun 14 12:08:58 i will try to slow down Jun 14 12:09:19 ok do you want me to reboot to prove it works although i can't telnet in? Jun 14 12:09:41 moment pls Jun 14 12:09:57 ok Jun 14 12:10:49 michelles mother is giving her a lift so i am in no immediate hurry although i am sure you have things you could be doing. I appreciate this Jun 14 12:11:30 1st problem is, it seems, that you cann't boot the slug with the hd attached, the 2nd, is to change the pw Jun 14 12:11:44 i think i can boot with it Jun 14 12:11:53 its only when i try to change hdd Jun 14 12:12:03 well, then we should work on the 1st one, give it a try and boot with hd attached Jun 14 12:12:11 opps its only when i try to change telnet pwd on hdd Jun 14 12:12:16 ok Jun 14 12:12:59 restarting Jun 14 12:13:03 if it boots with hd, then you cann't login, but we know, the machine works Jun 14 12:14:03 looking good Jun 14 12:15:20 no beep yet Jun 14 12:15:30 but solid status and disk1 Jun 14 12:15:39 and odd flicker on ethernet Jun 14 12:16:03 on the way... Jun 14 12:16:54 apropos way, there are always more than one way to change the root pw, we can try a 2nd Jun 14 12:18:24 excuse me, but i'm don't know anything about your *x expirience... Jun 14 12:18:41 i have a little Jun 14 12:18:51 fine, thats much easier Jun 14 12:19:05 ok that appears to have failed, just failed in a different manner Jun 14 12:19:25 i have a linux box running fedora core 3 beside me Jun 14 12:19:35 but status led is still green (solid)? Jun 14 12:19:43 yup Jun 14 12:19:53 and disk1 Jun 14 12:20:08 but the box didn't beep yet Jun 14 12:20:12 no Jun 14 12:20:23 6+ minutes now Jun 14 12:20:40 i can't ping it either Jun 14 12:20:47 and some noise in the enclosure? or anything is quite Jun 14 12:21:01 seems to be no hdd activity Jun 14 12:21:10 :-( Jun 14 12:21:33 i spose i need to try it with a clean format on the hdd? Jun 14 12:21:35 any relevant data on the hd? Jun 14 12:21:40 i am sure i did tho Jun 14 12:21:47 nope its brand new Jun 14 12:22:13 fine, have you a win box avaiable? Jun 14 12:22:16 sure Jun 14 12:22:28 i already deleted the partitions once :) Jun 14 12:22:35 want me to do it again? Jun 14 12:22:51 than you should del the partitions, and go back on begin :-( Jun 14 12:22:56 ok :) Jun 14 12:23:46 might be, anything went wrong with youre usb/firewire enclosure, myself only one with single usb interface, and there is everything fine, dunno Jun 14 12:24:07 ok partitions (three deleted) Jun 14 12:24:45 beep Jun 14 12:25:23 mounting hd Jun 14 12:25:44 format from web page? Jun 14 12:26:33 http://192.168.1.77/Management/disk_fs.htm Jun 14 12:28:09 yes, pls Jun 14 12:29:14 ten we should have 3 clean partitions, and you should could access the data partition from other boxes Jun 14 12:29:28 formatting Jun 14 12:29:48 barbarian english,, i know ;-) Jun 14 12:29:53 the thing is will it reboot like that, as i remember it doing before i unsling to it Jun 14 12:30:08 its good english compared to my german Jun 14 12:30:49 ;-), yeah, but the school is far away, so any conversation is helpfull to train myself Jun 14 12:31:17 glad to help, although I feel I have the better part of this deal. Jun 14 12:31:32 np :-) Jun 14 12:33:11 but back on duty, the readme said, make sure, that you can access the disc(s) before you unslinging it- Jun 14 12:33:24 and you can ? Jun 14 12:33:36 yeah, i am pretty certain i followed the read me religiously Jun 14 12:33:49 putting some data in, and getting some data off Jun 14 12:34:05 well i copied stuff in Jun 14 12:34:13 never read it off Jun 14 12:34:27 ;-), have translate the readme to german, and after translation it's much shorter than the english one Jun 14 12:34:34 hehehheh Jun 14 12:35:34 imho, it's american style, to put much "be aware", "be afraid", and read this "99" times Jun 14 12:35:47 in an instruction Jun 14 12:36:21 ok formatting finished Jun 14 12:36:23 for the logs: sorry byront Jun 14 12:36:53 ok copying files on Jun 14 12:37:54 copying off on different pc Jun 14 12:38:11 177mb Jun 14 12:38:33 all working Jun 14 12:38:53 ok restart with hdd attached without unslinging it? Jun 14 12:41:03 yeah, standard linksys functionallity Jun 14 12:41:15 restarting Jun 14 12:41:51 what is your purpose, to use the box? Jun 14 12:42:41 beep Jun 14 12:42:55 well i wanted to play with ftp Jun 14 12:43:11 and as a nas for my home network Jun 14 12:43:59 my slug streams mp3's to my noxon (terratec) Jun 14 12:44:04 ok its back up, i can see shares and access them Jun 14 12:44:18 thats another thing i would like to try Jun 14 12:44:21 so, we have a virgin slug Jun 14 12:44:34 well its firmware is still 5.5 Jun 14 12:44:42 in this case twonkyvision is the right thing Jun 14 12:44:53 Current Firmware Version: V2.3R29-uNSLUng-5.5-beta Jun 14 12:45:00 right, not realy virgin Jun 14 12:45:13 but behaving as a virgin Jun 14 12:45:14 but, with a clean hd Jun 14 12:45:19 yup Jun 14 12:46:00 restart with no hdd? Jun 14 12:46:06 ok, put it down, disatach the disk, and then we'll ready for and 2nd, or 3rd try Jun 14 12:46:17 yes Jun 14 12:46:49 i think this is my 3rd go with clean hd Jun 14 12:46:56 restarting Jun 14 12:48:00 beep Jun 14 12:48:29 aeh, the slot, where you've put the disk in is port1? Jun 14 12:48:36 yup Jun 14 12:48:49 ok, just a question Jun 14 12:48:55 the one closest to power lead Jun 14 12:49:02 at base Jun 14 12:49:14 ok logged in as root Jun 14 12:49:24 yes, verified this by touching my slug Jun 14 12:49:41 :) Jun 14 12:49:47 and plug the disc in Jun 14 12:50:25 ok its in Jun 14 12:50:36 ./dev/sda1 on /share/hdd/data type ext3 (rw) Jun 14 12:50:38 ./dev/sda2 on /share/hdd/conf type ext3 (rw,sync) Jun 14 12:50:59 if mount shows rw access, it's time for another unsling to disk1 Jun 14 12:51:17 ok /sbin/unsling disk1 Jun 14 12:51:22 it's quite to fast, Jun 14 12:51:35 if you can, wait another minute Jun 14 12:51:43 ok Jun 14 12:52:26 imho, the slug mounts in the first rw, than runs quota check, ro, and if thes is finished, than mount the disc rw Jun 14 12:52:28 say when Jun 14 12:52:36 ahh Jun 14 12:53:09 but, there is no disc access is hearable (?!) then it might be safe to unsling Jun 14 12:53:29 well i just deleted a file on the network share Jun 14 12:53:37 so it seems to be up Jun 14 12:54:03 k, than it is the right time (is anytime, the right time ?) Jun 14 12:54:27 # /sbin/unsling disk1 Jun 14 12:54:28 Target disk is /share/hdd/data Jun 14 12:54:28 Copying the complete rootfs from / to /share/hdd/data. Jun 14 12:54:28 19225 blocks Jun 14 12:54:28 Linking /usr/bin/ipkg executable on target disk. Jun 14 12:54:28 Creating /.sda1root to direct switchbox to boot from /share/hdd/data. Jun 14 12:54:30 # Jun 14 12:54:45 again wait a few minutes before rebooting? Jun 14 12:55:06 no, if there is nomore output, unsling is finished Jun 14 12:55:36 let us see, if the slug is willing to boot with hd attached Jun 14 12:55:40 just go for restart? Jun 14 12:55:57 yes Jun 14 12:56:18 crosses fingers Jun 14 12:56:38 and toes Jun 14 12:57:23 steady amber status light Jun 14 12:57:45 but only 15 secs, max. Jun 14 12:58:27 longer but i don't know if that was shutting down or on restart Jun 14 12:59:09 power cycle? or reset Jun 14 12:59:15 sometimes, myself have the problem, that the slug is unwilling to boot, so i must pull off the power cable, wait 10 secs or so , and then put it in again and switch on the slug Jun 14 12:59:23 ok Jun 14 13:00:42 ok same as before i think Jun 14 13:01:02 boots reads from drive status goes out Jun 14 13:01:14 reads from drive ethernet goes out Jun 14 13:01:24 ethernet comes back on and thats it Jun 14 13:01:30 drive1 led solid Jun 14 13:01:37 ethernet mainly solid Jun 14 13:03:02 haven't seen this before, i'm interested to have a look, that the box itself works alright, so, pls, start without hd attached Jun 14 13:03:11 i do have another usb2 adaptor? Jun 14 13:03:17 ok Jun 14 13:03:45 rebooting with no hd now Jun 14 13:05:38 and the result? Jun 14 13:06:17 its back up , aboiut to telnet in Jun 14 13:06:27 curious Jun 14 13:06:40 back in Jun 14 13:07:06 want me to try the hdd with the external adaptor? Jun 14 13:07:28 its like an engineeering adaptor for use with bare drivs? Jun 14 13:08:33 dunno, cause the disc works well when it is hotplugged, but not works with unslung, or r29, when it starts up Jun 14 13:09:09 hm, but the disc works well, if the disc isn't unsling Jun 14 13:09:12 so its unlikely to be the adaptor Jun 14 13:09:14 i've forgot Jun 14 13:09:39 ok slug + unslung hd in icy box = good Jun 14 13:10:05 slug 5.5 firmware unslung hdd in caddy = good Jun 14 13:10:32 sdamm semantics thats wrong Jun 14 13:10:39 ok slug + unslung hd in icy box = good Jun 14 13:10:48