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Aug 31 03:09:34 <fatboy> ok tnx
Aug 31 03:09:36 <fatboy> :)
Aug 31 03:09:53 <fatboy> I have found some link about my adder q
Aug 31 03:14:56 <conradl> the wiki is a good thing.
Aug 31 03:28:03 <fatboy> looks super cool
Aug 31 03:28:33 <fatboy> I´m thinking of bying a nslu2 today
Aug 31 03:28:56 <fatboy> what to use it as a ftp/web server plus a streaming server for my kiss dvd player
Aug 31 03:30:17 <conradl> are you happy to read everything to the end before you start?
Aug 31 03:32:37 <fatboy> I have found some howto´s so I think I have to get started ...but ..I´m shure that i fuck up but I think I have what i need 
Aug 31 03:32:48 <fatboy> to get started
Aug 31 03:34:04 <conradl> just follow the wiki and its easy.
Aug 31 03:34:09 <fatboy> oki :)
Aug 31 03:39:27 <kami22> hi in which package i can find usermod?
Aug 31 03:41:37 <conradl> http://ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org/
Aug 31 03:45:07 <kami22> yes but i cant find it there
Aug 31 04:51:36 <fatboy> haha
Aug 31 04:51:40 <fatboy> look at this
Aug 31 04:51:47 <fatboy> if you undersund danish
Aug 31 04:51:48 <conradl> ?
Aug 31 04:51:49 <fatboy> http://www.kiss-center.dk/
Aug 31 04:51:50 <conradl> no
Aug 31 04:52:00 <fatboy> hehe
Aug 31 04:52:06 <fatboy> there are selling 
Aug 31 04:52:20 <fatboy> firmware to the nslu2 
Aug 31 04:52:56 <fatboy> so you can use it with your kiss dvd player
Aug 31 04:53:19 <conradl> maybe they made a large donation to the powers that be?
Aug 31 04:56:08 <fatboy> maybe
Aug 31 04:57:26 <fatboy> but...i´m goning to try to do it my self
Aug 31 04:57:28 <fatboy> :)
Aug 31 05:04:15 <assel> I would like file_sharing.cgi to show users with UID smaller than 2000 or - as an alternative - to configure adduser to chose UIDs bigger than 2000 for new users. Any idea?
Aug 31 05:09:26 <fatboy> time to go home
Aug 31 05:09:28 <fatboy> cya
Aug 31 13:59:04 <darth_mall> anyone around?
Aug 31 14:27:39 <heebix> im around but im a newb :)
Aug 31 19:12:12 <heebix> hi, anyone around to answer some questions?
Aug 31 19:22:38 <conradwork> easy ones?
Aug 31 19:23:43 <heebix> well my rootfs is on t he nslu2 and not on the external hd
Aug 31 19:23:51 <heebix> im following the steps of unslinging again
Aug 31 19:24:00 <conradwork> and
Aug 31 19:24:10 <heebix> ill tell you how it goes in a minute
Aug 31 19:24:14 <conradwork> k
Aug 31 19:24:23 <heebix> i noticed im at 91% capacity
Aug 31 19:24:54 <heebix> i mistakenly ran an ipkg upgrade before realizing i wasnt on the external drive
Aug 31 19:25:17 <heebix> any way i can manualy get it back down to 82%?
Aug 31 19:25:18 <conradwork> the drive was viewable b4 u unslung? in the web interface?
Aug 31 19:25:23 <heebix> yes
Aug 31 19:26:38 <heebix> the files on the drive are being shown as private data in the web interface is that normal?
Aug 31 19:26:53 <ByronT> is some help needed in here?
Aug 31 19:27:08 <conradwork> yip
Aug 31 19:27:16 <ByronT> if you've filled your flash, just unslinging again is not going to help
Aug 31 19:27:25 <heebix> well it wasnt completely full
Aug 31 19:27:43 <ByronT> when I say "filled" I mean over 81-82%
Aug 31 19:27:49 <heebix> oh
Aug 31 19:28:12 <heebix> well i was hoping unslinging it again would get the rootfs to be loaded from the external hd
Aug 31 19:28:38 <heebix> it was something that was suggested on the yahoo group
Aug 31 19:28:46 <ByronT> you might be able to do that, but if you're doing this with 5.5, there exists a slight problem there as well
Aug 31 19:28:57 <heebix> yeha im using 5.5, whats the problem?
Aug 31 19:29:32 <ByronT> the ./sda1root file that would keep the unsling from functioning properly
Aug 31 19:30:13 <ByronT> I was just going to say that fastest recovery is probably flash to linksys then back to unslung 5.5 and unsling properly
Aug 31 19:30:23 <heebix> ahh
Aug 31 19:30:28 <heebix> hmm well i think i have a brick
Aug 31 19:30:36 <heebix> or maybe not
Aug 31 19:31:14 <heebix> it wasnt booting with the HD attached b ut it just booted without it attached
Aug 31 19:31:17 <ByronT> but what do I know.... ;)
Aug 31 19:31:53 <heebix> so you think i should flash it with the latest linksys firmware then restart from scratch?
Aug 31 19:32:15 <ByronT> that is a symptom of the bug that I am intimately aware of... the non-booting with hdd attached after "re-unslinging"
Aug 31 19:32:55 <heebix> i see you have had this before
Aug 31 19:32:59 <ByronT> if you do the back to linksys then to unslung - and you follow the directions, the likelihood of failure is minimal
Aug 31 19:33:30 <ByronT> if you try to recover (because the flash is already filled beyond normal) bad things (tm) can happen
Aug 31 19:33:53 <heebix> ok well it seems to be working fine without the HD attached
Aug 31 19:34:00 <heebix> so im going to reflash it with linksys
Aug 31 19:34:03 <heebix> then back to unslung
Aug 31 19:34:06 <ByronT> that's not to say it is impossible, it's just easier (IMO) and faster to do it the way I suggested
Aug 31 19:34:19 <heebix> it makes sense that it would be faster
Aug 31 19:34:23 <ByronT> right... it should go quickly this time around.... :)
Aug 31 19:34:32 <ByronT> think of it as practice
Aug 31 19:34:33 <heebix> do i need to reformat the HD?
Aug 31 19:34:43 <ByronT> I would not
Aug 31 19:34:52 <ByronT> you can if there is no data on it
Aug 31 19:35:09 <ByronT> you can even go the paranoid route and Reset the SysConf
Aug 31 19:35:15 <heebix> there is no data on there
Aug 31 19:35:22 <heebix> other than what unslung put on
Aug 31 19:35:28 <ByronT> then go ahead and re-format
Aug 31 19:37:25 <heebix> thanks for your help, ill keep you updated :)
Aug 31 19:37:50 <ByronT> I'll be around for a while - if not at keyboard, so if you have other questions or run into problems, just buzz me (but it might be a minute or two before I respond)
Aug 31 19:38:05 <heebix> cool thanks
Aug 31 19:39:58 <heebix> i have a quesiton again
Aug 31 19:40:11 <ByronT> sure
Aug 31 19:40:37 <heebix> flashing with linksys i need to enter reboot  or can i do it from the web interface?
Aug 31 19:40:42 <heebix> its giving me a little warning
Aug 31 19:40:55 <ByronT> btw, to really get my attention, preface your question with "ByronT" - it'll cause the computer to sing out to me (and I might be able to hear it in the other room)
Aug 31 19:41:05 <heebix> ahh ok
Aug 31 19:41:28 <ByronT> if you're at unslung now, then you'll need to use redboot to flash back to linksys
Aug 31 19:41:43 <ByronT> once back to linksys, feel free to use the web interface
Aug 31 19:42:29 <heebix> i guess i have ot get the windows sercomm upgrade tool
Aug 31 19:43:53 <ByronT> yeah, a bit of a pain - you could setup a tftp server somewhere too
Aug 31 19:44:42 <heebix> is it easier to use the linux tool?
Aug 31 20:10:00 <heebix> using the sercomm utility was pretty easy :)
Aug 31 20:22:11 <ByronT> hmmmm... I thought I heard the "come hither" sound
Aug 31 20:22:22 <ByronT> back to the soldering table
Aug 31 20:59:49 <heebix> ByronT: what is the easiest way to always have telnet enabled? is it to create a script in the /unslung directory?
Aug 31 21:06:20 <ByronT> don't use telnet
Aug 31 21:06:43 <ByronT> go to something like dropbear or openssh instead and use PuTTy as the client
Aug 31 21:07:11 <ByronT> it's more secure (even for over the internet) and it will auto start after the ipkg install of it
Aug 31 22:08:08 <da_yellowdart> Can someone answer a quick (at least I think quick) question for me?
Aug 31 22:08:37 <heebix> ByronT would be your man
Aug 31 22:08:47 <heebix> but go ahead and ask, im new to this
Aug 31 22:09:06 <da_yellowdart> me too, I just bought the thing yesterday...only been owrking on it for like 2 hours
Aug 31 22:09:18 <da_yellowdart> anyways - I just wanna confirm that I unslung the drive right
Aug 31 22:09:26 <da_yellowdart> I looked at the page at
Aug 31 22:09:36 <da_yellowdart> lemme find it again, just a sec
Aug 31 22:09:46 <da_yellowdart> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/ConfirmUnslung
Aug 31 22:09:59 <da_yellowdart> but my configuration doesn't look anything like that
Aug 31 22:10:11 <heebix> can you telnet into the box?
Aug 31 22:10:25 <da_yellowdart> so I dunno if that example is just a different version of Unslung? 
Aug 31 22:10:26 <da_yellowdart> yes
Aug 31 22:10:38 <heebix> telnet in and type df
Aug 31 22:10:41 <da_yellowdart> ok
Aug 31 22:11:03 <da_yellowdart> yeah - I did that - this is what I get back
Aug 31 22:11:10 <da_yellowdart> Filesystem           1k-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
Aug 31 22:11:14 <da_yellowdart> rootfs                76723716     44336  75899908   0% /
Aug 31 22:11:20 <heebix> if your rootfs has the same available size as /dev/sda1 you should be cool
Aug 31 22:11:29 <heebix> yeah see your rootfs is running on your 80GB drive
Aug 31 22:11:35 <da_yellowdart> ahh
Aug 31 22:11:50 <da_yellowdart> sso rootfs should be whereever the thing runs off of...cool
Aug 31 22:11:55 <heebix> also
Aug 31 22:12:03 <da_yellowdart> sorry...total Linux newb too
Aug 31 22:12:05 <heebix> the part where it says mounted on
Aug 31 22:12:20 <heebix> what percent is next to the /initrd
Aug 31 22:12:30 <da_yellowdart> 82%
Aug 31 22:12:32 <heebix> good
Aug 31 22:12:42 <da_yellowdart> that's actually what made me thing something was wrong
Aug 31 22:12:47 <heebix> i somehow didnt unsling the drive properly
Aug 31 22:12:55 <heebix> and ended up filling up the flash disk
Aug 31 22:12:58 <heebix> and had to restart
Aug 31 22:13:01 <da_yellowdart> doh
Aug 31 22:13:03 <heebix> i just started this yesterday
Aug 31 22:13:19 <heebix> what are you planning ot use your box for?
Aug 31 22:13:32 <da_yellowdart> yeah - I just wanted to make sure I didn't have to do that...since (as I know just about nothing about linux) I dunno how long it would take me to do that lol
Aug 31 22:13:42 <da_yellowdart> web server and bittorrent
Aug 31 22:13:48 <heebix> cool
Aug 31 22:14:03 <heebix> i have a 320GB drive with tons of mp3s and videos and i want to make mine a fileserver
Aug 31 22:14:04 <da_yellowdart> maybe other things...just depends, those are the two main things I wanna get running first
Aug 31 22:14:11 <da_yellowdart> oh?
Aug 31 22:14:19 <heebix> unfortunately all my files are on an NTFS drive
Aug 31 22:14:31 <heebix> so im backing it up at the moment and going ot reformat that drive as fat32
Aug 31 22:14:34 <da_yellowdart> see, my problem is I have a computer that I leave on like 24/7
Aug 31 22:14:43 <da_yellowdart> with like 1TB of space...
Aug 31 22:14:51 <da_yellowdart> I leave it on to download crap
Aug 31 22:14:55 <heebix> yeah i have all that room but i dont like the powerbill
Aug 31 22:15:00 <heebix> this is my fix
Aug 31 22:15:10 <da_yellowdart> yep - exactly my thoughts too =D
Aug 31 22:15:26 <heebix> i have too many computers, i want them all off , but have data acces
Aug 31 22:15:34 <da_yellowdart> yep
Aug 31 22:15:38 <heebix> and we had an NSLU at work doing nothing so i usurped it
Aug 31 22:15:43 <da_yellowdart> do you know linux pretty good?
Aug 31 22:15:46 <heebix> nope
Aug 31 22:15:49 <heebix> not at all
Aug 31 22:15:49 <da_yellowdart> hmm
Aug 31 22:15:58 <da_yellowdart> I'm real interested in this X11 thing
Aug 31 22:16:04 <heebix> ive used that before
Aug 31 22:16:05 <da_yellowdart> that gives you a gui for the box
Aug 31 22:16:11 <heebix> but to connect to sun workstations back in school
Aug 31 22:16:16 <da_yellowdart> oh
Aug 31 22:16:22 <da_yellowdart> I wonder how hard it would be on the slug
Aug 31 22:16:27 <heebix> im gonna stick with the command line since i feel i will learn this all better
Aug 31 22:16:30 <ByronT> sorry guys but bedtime for bonzo here
Aug 31 22:16:33 <da_yellowdart> I mean - cpu and RAM wise
Aug 31 22:16:39 <heebix> thanks for all your help ByronT
Aug 31 22:16:54 <heebix> yeah, i dont t hink the processor will be powerful enough to do anything cool
Aug 31 22:16:58 <heebix> like runa quake server :)
Aug 31 22:16:59 <da_yellowdart> yeah
Aug 31 22:17:01 <da_yellowdart> ROFL
Aug 31 22:17:06 <da_yellowdart> yeah - prolly no
Aug 31 22:17:25 <heebix> but who knows, you could run q1 on a p1
Aug 31 22:17:40 <heebix> i cant seem to get ftp access working
Aug 31 22:17:45 <heebix> thats my hangup at the moment
Aug 31 22:18:03 <da_yellowdart> I wanna use the command line too - you know, learn it and stuff - but at the same time I wanna get his thing up and running ASAP...so I thought a GUI would be a nice option
Aug 31 22:18:25 <da_yellowdart> you use telnet or ssh
Aug 31 22:18:27 <da_yellowdart> ?
Aug 31 22:18:28 <heebix> ssh
Aug 31 22:18:30 <da_yellowdart> ah
Aug 31 22:18:36 <da_yellowdart> OpenSSh?
Aug 31 22:18:36 <heebix> i just installed dropbear
Aug 31 22:18:39 <da_yellowdart> oh
Aug 31 22:18:46 <heebix> because the install page looked shorter than openssh :)
Aug 31 22:18:52 <da_yellowdart> lol
Aug 31 22:19:07 <da_yellowdart> ssh is sorta like secure telnet right?
Aug 31 22:19:10 <heebix> yep
Aug 31 22:19:15 <da_yellowdart> ok - that's what I thought
Aug 31 22:19:41 <heebix> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/UseDropBearForRemoteAccess
Aug 31 22:19:47 <heebix> took me no time
Aug 31 22:19:51 <conrad_work> then cue up the torrents and leave it alone. come back in two days.
Aug 31 22:20:17 <da_yellowdart> yeah - I just haven't decided which torrent client to use yet
Aug 31 22:20:45 <da_yellowdart> ctorrent - or the btcurses...or that rtorrent looks cool but I guess there isn't a package for it
Aug 31 22:21:18 <da_yellowdart> X11 would be nice for torrent usage as well I suppose
Aug 31 22:21:45 <conrad_work> use py-bittorrent
Aug 31 22:21:52 <conrad_work> with screen and all is well
Aug 31 22:22:13 <da_yellowdart> oh? didn't see that one
Aug 31 22:23:09 <conrad_work> its on the wiki somewhere or just search the package list.
Aug 31 22:23:17 <da_yellowdart> yeah, I'll find it
Aug 31 22:23:25 <da_yellowdart> you say screen - you mean X11?
Aug 31 22:24:39 <da_yellowdart> nvm - I found screen in the package list
Aug 31 22:24:46 <conrad_work> nope it lets the show run with you. but you can then go back to that screen and py-bittorrent looks nice. wants to be a gui
Aug 31 22:25:05 <heebix> is there a better way to view all the package list? the list is too big for my window
Aug 31 22:26:38 <da_yellowdart> dunno - I'm having the same problem =/
Aug 31 22:26:38 <conrad_work> there was  link on the wiki but vi will let you go over it. or just http://ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org/
Aug 31 22:27:19 <heebix> thanks
Aug 31 22:29:57 <conrad_work> i feel like a spammer on the first Biz day of every month i auto send about 300 faxs and 600 emails...(sales)
Aug 31 22:30:16 <heebix> dont send any to me please :)
Aug 31 22:30:30 <heebix> any suggestions on a good ftp server?
Aug 31 22:31:00 <conrad_work> you might want my gear!!! I use stupid ftp via a WL500G so not really the best person to ask.
Aug 31 22:31:21 <heebix> heh
Aug 31 22:31:47 <conrad_work> I sell UPS equipment to computer resellers. 
Aug 31 22:32:22 <heebix> i make implantable heart monitors
Aug 31 22:33:01 <conrad_work> they are self powered right? 
Aug 31 22:33:21 <da_yellowdart> I program things - webpages mostly
Aug 31 22:33:24 <heebix> powered through an induction from a handheld
Aug 31 22:33:34 <heebix> -an
Aug 31 22:33:59 <conrad_work> I think a rear entry port would be nicer...
Aug 31 22:34:07 <heebix> haha
Aug 31 22:34:37 <da_yellowdart> ok I installed the py-bittorrent, now how do I use it?  Is there some kind of user guide somewhere?
Aug 31 22:34:54 <conrad_work> um maybe...hang on.
Aug 31 22:35:00 <ByronT> if there's not one in the wiki, feel free to create one... ;)
Aug 31 22:35:08 <ByronT> and now I really have to go to bed....
Aug 31 22:36:24 <eno-away> da_yellowdart, btdownloadcurses.py --help
Aug 31 22:37:24 <heebix> anyone know of a good client similar to dyndns updater?
Aug 31 22:37:39 <conrad_work> that too but put screen in front so... screen -dmS torrent btdownloadcurses.py --max_upload_rate 9  bew.torrent
Aug 31 22:37:59 <da_yellowdart> ok cool I'll try that after I get done installing this package eno :)  Thanks!
Aug 31 22:38:15 <da_yellowdart> no-ip heebix - that's what I use, and apparently there is a package for it now :)
Aug 31 22:38:25 <heebix> oh cool
Aug 31 22:38:29 <heebix> i need to find that one
Aug 31 22:38:43 <heebix> if i can ssh from work i can finish all this tomorrow :)
Aug 31 22:39:27 <da_yellowdart> why the screen?  Basically you can only do one bt download at a time w/o screen?
Aug 31 22:41:40 <conrad_work> with screen running and active CTL-a then c creates a new window to cue another torrent/whatever/wget
Aug 31 22:42:02 <da_yellowdart> ahh cool
Aug 31 22:42:19 <conrad_work> so i might have 2 torrents and a telnet to my ds101 going on screen and just CTRL-a and space to go between them.
Aug 31 22:42:33 <da_yellowdart> I tried the btdownloadcurses.py --help  but it just says "btdownloadcurses.py: No such file or directory"
Aug 31 22:42:41 <da_yellowdart> I need to change directories for that to work?
Aug 31 22:43:48 <eno-away> use the full path /opt/bin/bt...
Aug 31 22:44:10 <conrad_work> mine works anywhere?
Aug 31 22:45:29 <eno-away> screen is useful in so many ways, my favorite being "^a ^d" and "screen -r" to do suspend and resume
Aug 31 22:45:34 <heebix> whats an easy way to tell where you packages get installed?
Aug 31 22:46:09 <conrad_work> ipkg status
Aug 31 22:46:24 <da_yellowdart> ahh cool that did it eno, thanks!
Aug 31 22:46:38 <eno-away> ipkg files | sort
Aug 31 22:46:50 <eno-away> ipkg files pkg-name | sort
Aug 31 22:47:37 <heebix> hmm
Aug 31 22:48:09 <heebix> i did an ipkg noip
Aug 31 22:48:19 <heebix> and it installed to /opt/bin/noip2
Aug 31 22:48:36 <heebix> but i cant seem to run it using ./opt/bin/noip2
Aug 31 22:49:05 <da_yellowdart> heh - I have so much to learn about linux...I dunno how to even change directories..
Aug 31 22:49:11 <heebix> cd
Aug 31 22:49:20 <da_yellowdart> oh..like dos
Aug 31 22:49:25 <da_yellowdart> didn't even try that heh
Aug 31 22:49:31 <heebix> yep but with / instead of \
Aug 31 22:49:36 <da_yellowdart> aah
Aug 31 22:49:57 <eno-away> heebix, no need for the leading . before /opt/bin
Aug 31 22:50:06 <da_yellowdart> ok, well thanks for the help tongiht everyone - I can see this is gonna take me a while to get running lol
Aug 31 22:50:10 <da_yellowdart> catch you all later :)
Aug 31 22:50:11 <heebix> i just figured that one out :)
Aug 31 22:50:17 <heebix> cya da_yellowdart
Aug 31 22:57:47 <heebix> how do i get a program to run at startup?
Aug 31 22:57:57 <heebix> i.e. its in /opt/bin now
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