**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Oct 09 02:59:56 2005
Oct 09 04:52:58 <Guest6453> hello
Oct 09 04:53:22 <cheef_daniel> ~ask
Oct 09 04:53:34 <cheef_daniel> hi
Oct 09 07:02:17 <keckstar> hey all
Oct 09 07:02:53 <keckstar> i installed bash with ipkg, and i'm using openssh (dropbear woudln't work for me) but when i log in it uses busybox... which file do i need to edit to use bash as default shell?
Oct 09 07:07:49 <keckstar> nm, i just changed the /bin/sh link to /bin/bash
Oct 09 07:22:05 <ChriX> anyone tried motion on a de-underclocked slug?
Oct 09 08:54:15 <cheef_daniel> hi goetter
Oct 09 09:08:15 <goetter> hi
Oct 09 09:14:30 <cheef_daniel> goetter and how works you nslu2? something new?
Oct 09 09:24:03 <goetter> it's doing what i want it to ^_^
Oct 09 09:29:29 <cheef_daniel> my palm is working too
Oct 09 09:29:59 <cheef_daniel> now I have a little terminal on it and can browse through my mp3-list and play them
Oct 09 09:34:52 <goetter> so... how is this different from an ipod? ^_^
Oct 09 09:50:25 <cheef_daniel> it's much cheaper
Oct 09 09:51:03 <cheef_daniel> did only pay around 10E for it
Oct 09 09:51:31 <cheef_daniel> and I can conroll the whole nslu2 over it
Oct 09 11:30:40 <goetter> cheaper?
Oct 09 11:30:45 <goetter> i paid $100 for my nslu :(
Oct 09 11:30:55 <goetter> and a lot more for the drive/enclosure ;)
Oct 09 12:39:54 <keckstar> hey all
Oct 09 12:40:13 <keckstar> how do i set my default shell to bash?
Oct 09 12:40:30 <keckstar> i tried replacing the /bin/sh symlink, but that kind of bricked by system
Oct 09 12:42:21 <caplink811_log> which system, unslung?
Oct 09 12:42:26 <keckstar> yup
Oct 09 12:42:49 <keckstar> i did ipkg install bash, but it still uses busybox when i ssh in (openssh... dropbear gave me problems)
Oct 09 12:43:13 <caplink811_log> change the last field in your /share/hdd/conf/passwd to /opt/bin/bash , but don't do this for user root
Oct 09 12:43:24 <keckstar> i've only got root as a user
Oct 09 12:43:36 <keckstar> oyea i forgot about that file
Oct 09 12:43:44 <keckstar> can i do useradd?
Oct 09 12:44:00 <caplink811_log> than you should leave /share/hdd/conf/passwd alone, and modify /etc/profiles
Oct 09 12:44:11 <caplink811_log> to something like
Oct 09 12:44:21 <keckstar> well i dont have a /etc/profiles for some reason
Oct 09 12:44:43 <caplink811_log> you must add this file by edit it
Oct 09 12:47:19 <keckstar> o
Oct 09 12:47:23 <keckstar> ok
Oct 09 12:47:26 <caplink811_log>   if [ -e /opt/bin/bash] then /opt/bin/bash fi
Oct 09 12:48:08 <caplink811_log> so, if bash doesn't exist, you don't use it, and your root user can login with the standad shell
Oct 09 12:48:28 <keckstar> this goes in /etc/profile
Oct 09 12:48:46 <caplink811_log> yep
Oct 09 12:48:48 <keckstar> i've got a bash initialization script in /opt/etc/profile
Oct 09 12:49:04 <keckstar> but that's not being used, since the prompt isn't what it says in that file
Oct 09 12:49:16 <caplink811_log> the standard shell use /etc/profile
Oct 09 12:50:05 <keckstar> k thanks alot
Oct 09 12:50:31 <caplink811_log> np
Oct 09 12:52:51 <keckstar> so what do you use your slug for?
Oct 09 12:56:38 <caplink811_log> primary for media streaming, and as a low power file server for the home net
Oct 09 12:56:57 <caplink811_log> secondary to brush my 'x skills up a little bit
Oct 09 12:57:09 <caplink811_log> s/'x/*x
Oct 09 12:57:53 <keckstar> neato
Oct 09 12:58:15 <keckstar> im getting syntax errors when i login with my /etc/profile... lemme show ya what's goin on
Oct 09 12:58:26 <keckstar> its like this:
Oct 09 12:58:33 <keckstar> if [ -e /opt/bin/bash]; then
Oct 09 12:58:37 <keckstar> /opt/bin/bash
Oct 09 12:58:37 <keckstar> fi
Oct 09 12:59:04 <caplink811_log> if [bla]
Oct 09 12:59:05 <keckstar> wait just got it
Oct 09 12:59:07 <caplink811_log>  then
Oct 09 12:59:09 <caplink811_log>  blu
Oct 09 12:59:12 <caplink811_log> fi
Oct 09 12:59:14 <keckstar> i didnt have the space before the ]
Oct 09 13:03:44 <keckstar> ok i ran through all the ls - options but can't find the one for color output
Oct 09 13:03:55 <keckstar> happen to know off-hand?
Oct 09 13:04:24 <caplink811_log> well, 1st, this /etc/profile works for me
Oct 09 13:04:25 <caplink811_log> #
Oct 09 13:04:25 <caplink811_log> # Bash initialization script
Oct 09 13:04:25 <caplink811_log> #
Oct 09 13:04:26 <caplink811_log> PS1="[\u@\h \W]$ "
Oct 09 13:04:27 <caplink811_log> PATH=/opt/sbin:/opt/bin:/opt/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
Oct 09 13:04:29 <caplink811_log> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/lib:${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}
Oct 09 13:04:31 <caplink811_log> TERMINFO=/opt/share/terminfo
Oct 09 13:04:35 <caplink811_log> TERM=xterm-pcolor
Oct 09 13:04:37 <caplink811_log> export PS1 PATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH TERMINFO TERM
Oct 09 13:04:39 <caplink811_log> if [ -e /opt/bin/bash ]
Oct 09 13:04:47 <caplink811_log>         then
Oct 09 13:04:49 <caplink811_log>         /opt/bin/bash
Oct 09 13:04:51 <caplink811_log> fi
Oct 09 13:05:42 <caplink811_log> imho, color output for ls works with busybox-1.0
Oct 09 13:06:52 <keckstar> hmm it still spawns a busybox shell below my bash shell... so when i type 'exit' to logout i get put down into the busybox shell 
Oct 09 13:08:36 <caplink811_log> hm your output of ls should look similar like that
Oct 09 13:08:38 <caplink811_log> [root@linus root]$ ls -la /opt/bin/bash
Oct 09 13:08:38 <caplink811_log> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 616748 Jan 28  2005 /opt/bin/bash
Oct 09 13:09:18 <keckstar> yea it does... but no colors except the default
Oct 09 13:10:14 <caplink811_log> thats a 2nd prob, 1st is to load bash at login, did this work?
Oct 09 13:10:25 <keckstar> yup when i log in i get dumped into my bash shell
Oct 09 13:12:15 <caplink811_log> k
Oct 09 13:14:07 <caplink811_log> well, i don't have anytime the need for a colorized ls output, but, i know, that busybox-1.0 has the possibilty for that
Oct 09 13:17:46 <cheef_daniel> could somebody search for 'hotplug' files on his openslug-nslu and paste me the results to pastebin?
Oct 09 13:27:08 <cheef_daniel> ok, I dont need it any more
Oct 09 13:42:53 <goetter> if you want it to log out when you exit the bash shell
Oct 09 13:43:03 <goetter> then just put 'exit' after the '/opt/bin/bash' line in the if statement
Oct 09 13:43:28 <goetter> oh he left
Oct 09 13:43:39 <goetter> caplink811_log: why not change root's shell to bash via passwd?
Oct 09 13:51:36 <goetter> also, anyone know the reason why there is another grouping of folders in /opt?
Oct 09 13:53:35 <caplink811_log> goetter,  what happens if the hd isn't avaiable?
Oct 09 13:56:11 <caplink811_log> aka, booting without hd? imho, there is no fall back to a standard shell, so, root is logout without a shell :(
Oct 09 13:56:13 <goetter> the passwd file wouldn't be available either, so no harm could be done
Oct 09 13:56:23 <goetter> it would have no idea about the little mistake i made
Oct 09 13:56:39 <goetter> maybe we're talking about something which doesn't affect openslug, which i use
Oct 09 13:57:02 <caplink811_log> yeah, if /share/hdd/conf/passwd is changed, but n'most people change /etc/passwd, and that's the problem
Oct 09 13:57:12 <goetter> my /etc/passwd is quite on the harddrive
Oct 09 13:57:45 <caplink811_log> yep. myself, and leckstar talkining about unslung ;)
Oct 09 13:57:57 <goetter> oh okay :)
Oct 09 13:58:13 <goetter> then maybe you could tell me, what does openslug do when the hdd is not found?
Oct 09 13:58:16 <goetter> and also, what is /opt?
Oct 09 13:58:54 <caplink811_log> well, myself don't use opeNSLUng, so i'm clueless
Oct 09 14:02:05 <caplink811_log> but, openslug is cognate to unlsung, what the startup concerns, so the pivot root should fall back to the initrd filesystem
Oct 09 14:02:34 <caplink811_log> bzw, the romfs
Oct 09 14:03:16 <caplink811_log> sorry, rather, not bzw
Oct 09 14:03:26 <goetter> a german huh ^_^
Oct 09 14:03:35 <caplink811_log> yep :)
Oct 09 14:03:58 <goetter> i'm taking my fifth semester of german now
Oct 09 14:04:19 <caplink811_log> cornell.edu -> us or ok?
Oct 09 14:04:26 <caplink811_log> uk
Oct 09 14:04:29 <goetter> us
Oct 09 14:04:32 <caplink811_log> aah
Oct 09 14:05:39 <caplink811_log> why does an american is learning german, and not chinese, or something else?
Oct 09 14:05:47 <goetter> chinese is passe
Oct 09 14:06:03 <goetter> my mother's family lives in southern germany
Oct 09 14:06:12 <caplink811_log> ah, bavaria
Oct 09 14:06:13 <cheef_daniel> <--near me
Oct 09 14:06:21 <goetter> west of bavaria
Oct 09 14:06:39 <caplink811_log> baden wuertemberg, or franken?
Oct 09 14:06:48 <cheef_daniel> bw
Oct 09 14:06:53 <caplink811_log> k
Oct 09 14:06:54 <goetter> west of that too :P
Oct 09 14:07:51 <caplink811_log> so you're a quarter german ;)
Oct 09 14:08:12 <goetter> yes, actually. my grandfather is hungarian
Oct 09 14:08:57 <caplink811_log> interest intermixture
Oct 09 14:09:31 <caplink811_log> so, what's your plan for the future?
Oct 09 14:09:43 <goetter> go live in germany, of course
Oct 09 14:09:55 <goetter> even though i've been studying it, there is so little practice to be had around here that i'm not learning it very well
Oct 09 14:10:32 <cheef_daniel> das passt scho
Oct 09 14:11:26 <caplink811_log> but, 5 semesters, imho, 2 and a half year, there should be a practice, and there are possibilities for a education leave?
Oct 09 14:11:42 <goetter> there are, but it's not practical for me to do so
Oct 09 14:12:47 <caplink811_log> too expencive?
Oct 09 14:12:55 <caplink811_log> or less time?
Oct 09 14:13:17 <goetter> i'm majoring in german and computer science. the school i'm at is very good at computer science (which is my primary major)
Oct 09 14:13:34 <goetter> if i were to study abroad, i would likely have to spend another semester in school, which complicates things..
Oct 09 14:13:45 <caplink811_log> aja
Oct 09 14:14:14 <goetter> it works fine for the 20% of people or so who do go abroad, but in my case i don't have enough liberty
Oct 09 14:15:43 <caplink811_log> well, in my tz it is a quarter past 11, and i have to go to hamburg tomorrow, so i need a liitle sleep, have a god time, and of course a nice evening, bye
Oct 09 14:16:00 <goetter> take care
Oct 09 14:17:18 <caplink811_log> bestimmt ;)
Oct 09 14:18:06 <cheef_daniel> und träum was süßes ;)
Oct 09 15:10:40 <seanc> anybody know how to execute Java(TM) Plug-in: Version 1.4.2_09
Oct 09 15:11:22 <seanc> anybody know how to execute rndc-confgen
Oct 09 15:19:51 <Guest0464> .
Oct 09 17:08:22 <seanc> anybody know how to execute rndc-confgen for bind?
Oct 09 17:15:27 <seanc> ?
Oct 09 23:01:26 <Guest3017> hi
Oct 09 23:02:05 <Guest3017> can anyone here help me with an ssh problem?
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