**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Nov 06 02:59:59 2005
Nov 06 03:38:11 <mika--> dinc: i have the same problem and more have this problem
Nov 06 03:38:44 <dinc> mika-- it seems to be solved by deleting the /.sda1root file
Nov 06 03:39:09 <dinc> the ipkg server seems to be down. Is there a mirror site I could use?
Nov 06 03:39:29 <mika--> sorry i mean ipkg wil not work
Nov 06 03:39:37 <mika--> that is the same problem i have
Nov 06 03:39:49 <dinc> the server seems to be down
Nov 06 03:39:58 <mika--> yesterday it was the same
Nov 06 03:40:01 <dinc> only a few packages are available
Nov 06 03:40:10 <mika--> i hope they wil fix it soon
Nov 06 03:40:21 <dinc> yeah I hope so too
Nov 06 03:40:45 <mika--> yesterday a few people reported the problem here to
Nov 06 03:41:05 <mika--> widrone: know more about it i think
Nov 06 03:44:14 <dinc> is there an easy way to install these packages manually?
Nov 06 03:45:02 <dinc> in the Packages file you can see the source for the package
Nov 06 03:49:56 <mika--> can someone report a bug ? about the ipkg system ?
Nov 06 03:52:01 <mika--> other question :D can i edit /etc/passwd
Nov 06 03:52:35 <mika--> i like to change this line : 2001:501:john v Manen::/dev/null
Nov 06 03:53:09 <mika--> in /home/user:/bin/sh
Nov 06 03:53:24 <mika--> so i can get ssh under the name john
Nov 06 03:53:35 <mika--> now is only root working
Nov 06 03:54:18 <dinc> you can try :)
Nov 06 03:56:19 <dinc> mika-- I think that should work
Nov 06 03:57:26 <mika--> i wil try it :) i have nothing beter todo now ..lol
Nov 06 03:57:46 <dinc> lol
Nov 06 03:58:22 <mika--> dinc: do u know if openslug package work on unslug ?
Nov 06 03:59:00 <dinc> sorry don't know. didn't get that far yet :)
Nov 06 03:59:26 <mika--> lol i like irssi but it is only for openslug
Nov 06 03:59:49 <mika--> all openslug packages are ok .. only unslug dont work
Nov 06 04:00:03 <mika--> http://ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org/details.php?
Nov 06 04:01:50 <dinc> dunno. I wanted to install asterisk on my slug
Nov 06 04:01:58 <dinc> and dreambox
Nov 06 04:07:09 <mika--> dreambox ?? dreambox is a satelite receiver or not ?
Nov 06 04:07:17 <mika--> but what is asterisk
Nov 06 04:08:32 <dinc> dreambox 500s, sat receiver with eth port but no HD. I'm going to mount the HD on my slug to record movies
Nov 06 04:09:00 <dinc> asterisk is open source pabx
Nov 06 04:10:31 <dinc> for voip
Nov 06 04:12:45 <dinc> mika-- check out www.sipdiscount.com 
Nov 06 04:13:25 <dinc> you can add multiple sip providers in asterisk
Nov 06 04:24:28 <mika--> dinc use samba for the dreambox 500 
Nov 06 04:24:42 <mika--> With Nfs the records are not going good here
Nov 06 04:28:28 <John_S> Hi, just a quick note: Optware package of Sudo and NetIO are still not fetchable from repository
Nov 06 04:30:51 <John_S> widrone: I'm not sure if this is related to the rebuilding problems from yesterday, but at least... it's been flagged :)
Nov 06 04:36:19 <dinc> re
Nov 06 04:37:05 <mika--> dinc use samba for the dreambox 500
Nov 06 04:37:12 <mika--> With Nfs the records are not going good here
Nov 06 04:37:12 <dinc> i will
Nov 06 04:37:21 <dinc> ok
Nov 06 04:37:46 <mika--> Where are u from dinc ?
Nov 06 04:38:01 <dinc> belgium
Nov 06 04:38:10 <mika--> her uit nederland :S
Nov 06 04:38:12 <mika--> :D
Nov 06 04:38:20 <dinc> hallo :)
Nov 06 04:39:11 * mika-- eating
Nov 06 04:39:18 <mika--> spreek je later dinc
Nov 06 04:39:22 <dinc> smakelijk
Nov 06 04:39:28 <mika--> thx
Nov 06 05:09:01 <dinc> what does the xvid package do on the slug?
Nov 06 05:13:24 <John_S> widrone: Sudo and NetIO packages are now working again
Nov 06 05:21:28 <dinc> ipkg server seems to be up now. ipkg works
Nov 06 05:24:44 <dinc> I'm off. thanx & bye all
Nov 06 06:13:52 <mika--> Yes here is it working also
Nov 06 07:54:45 <mika--> i have format my hd in the webbrouwser but telnet en login with admin,admin is not work now
Nov 06 07:54:57 <mika--> what do i wrong ?
Nov 06 07:55:17 <mika--> i am using unslung 5.*
Nov 06 07:58:07 <caplink811_log> you should read and follow the readme, there is no statement about login as admin
Nov 06 07:59:08 <mika--> i know i think now root uNSLung
Nov 06 07:59:34 <mika--> it was working here but i format my harddisk .. to clean all up 
Nov 06 07:59:36 <caplink811_log> thats true, if you booted without hd attached
Nov 06 08:00:50 <mika--> yes sorry i read it not good i read admin admin but that is for the web interface
Nov 06 08:00:59 <mika--> let me try again :D
Nov 06 08:01:35 <caplink811_log> np
Nov 06 08:01:51 <mika--> i am in :D
Nov 06 08:04:17 <mika--> i love this machine :))
Nov 06 08:40:35 <mika--> caplink811_log: can i tell me how i fix working with the "tab" (auto complete) ?
Nov 06 08:44:51 <caplink811_log> mika--, this should be a bash feature
Nov 06 08:45:01 <caplink811_log> maybe that it is in busybox1.0 avaiable too
Nov 06 08:49:09 <mika--> ok but i read it was not good to take busybox1.0 about simlinks or did i read it wrong ?
Nov 06 08:54:31 <caplink811_log> you can install busybox-base, that is only the busybox executable, and busybox-links, that is a package wih the links.
Nov 06 08:55:34 <caplink811_log> if you want to install a package with a real program in it (e.g. top in procps) then you can delete the related link, and install e.g. procps
Nov 06 08:57:12 <caplink811_log> btw, the repository seems to be up and running again
Nov 06 09:03:26 <mika--> yes the repostory is up only my nlsu niet ..:S
Nov 06 09:05:04 <mika--> i have unslung to my harddisk ( /sbin/unsling disk1) and change the passwd (passwd and cp /etc/passwd /share/hdd/conf/passwd )so when i reboot then he is not cumming up
Nov 06 09:05:12 <mika--> come up*
Nov 06 09:06:18 <mika--> When i remove the harddisk and reboot i can come in the webinterface
Nov 06 09:08:18 <caplink811_log> my expirience is, the best way to change a password is, add a user via webif, and copy his passwordfield to the passwordfield of user root in /share/hdd/conf/passwd
Nov 06 09:09:22 <mika--> so it is beter to go to delault settings in the web interface and start over ?
Nov 06 09:24:25 <caplink811_log> you can copy /share/hdd/conf passwd.ttt to /share/hdd/conf/passwd, and start over, reboot then without hd, log in, plug the hd in, wait, add an user in the webif...
Nov 06 09:33:41 <mika--> i had put the hd to my laptop and run cfdisk and remove all partitions 
Nov 06 09:33:47 <mika--> and now i wil try again
Nov 06 09:37:15 <caplink811_log> that is another method...
Nov 06 09:40:45 <mika--> and still it wil not boot with harddisk :S
Nov 06 09:41:35 <mika--> it start booting after a 20 sec he see the harddisk and read from it and then it stops
Nov 06 09:46:22 <mika--> caplink811_log: can i in the webinterface under admin do "restore default settings"
Nov 06 09:59:26 <fbq> hi 
Nov 06 09:59:42 <fbq> I cant get net-snmp to work
Nov 06 09:59:58 <fbq> I have installed it but ...snmpwalk dont work
Nov 06 10:00:23 <fbq> # snmpwalk
Nov 06 10:00:23 <fbq> snmpwalk: No such file or directory
Nov 06 10:00:28 <fbq> anyidee´s?
Nov 06 10:05:21 <caplink811_log> what result gives  /opt/bin/snmpwalk<enter> ?
Nov 06 10:05:52 <caplink811_log> mika--,  dunno what "restore default settings" do..
Nov 06 10:06:15 <fbq> like always caplink811 you save me again ! :)
Nov 06 10:06:18 <fbq> works fine
Nov 06 10:06:31 <fbq> tnx
Nov 06 10:07:03 <caplink811_log> you should change the PATH statement in /etc/profile, and add :/opt/bin:/opt/usr/bin:opt/sbin
Nov 06 10:08:50 <mika--> caplink811_log: i wil start over compleet what mist i do for that ?
Nov 06 10:09:52 <caplink811_log> mika--,  you've unsling the disc encore?
Nov 06 10:10:02 <caplink811_log> aeh, one more time?
Nov 06 10:10:10 <mika--> /share/hdd/conf/passwd.ttt /share/hdd/conf/passwd ?
Nov 06 10:10:45 <mika--> sorry caplink811_log let me tell what i did
Nov 06 10:10:54 <caplink811_log> k
Nov 06 10:13:08 <mika--> i have format my disk in the webinterface , restart with no disk , enable telnet , login by telnet , conect the disk , wait 2 minutes when i see him in the webinterface , run "/sbin/unsling disk1", and change the password then i put the linksys out with the button en restart it .. 
Nov 06 10:13:48 <mika--> when he starts it sounds to like good you hear the harddrive and see the led blinking 
Nov 06 10:14:00 <caplink811_log> you've change the password in what style? passwd or add a new user and edit /share/hdd/conf/passwd?
Nov 06 10:14:09 <mika--> after a 10 sec it stops and the led status is out
Nov 06 10:14:34 <mika--> i did like passwd in telnet
Nov 06 10:14:45 <mika--> and copy the file
Nov 06 10:14:55 <caplink811_log> that's not good (my opinion)
Nov 06 10:15:24 <mika--> ok so i do now copy /share/hdd/conf/passwd.ttt /share/hdd/conf/passwd
Nov 06 10:15:26 <mika--> ?
Nov 06 10:16:12 <caplink811_log> so you have the original linksys passwd, ok
Nov 06 10:16:34 <mika--> yes
Nov 06 10:16:48 <caplink811_log> but that isn't responsible on your startup problem, imho
Nov 06 10:17:05 <mika--> so now i copy /share/hdd/conf/passwd.ttt /share/hdd/conf/passwd like u say ?
Nov 06 10:17:17 <caplink811_log> give it a try ;)
Nov 06 10:18:36 <caplink811_log> and then reboot with disc attached, so we can see, what is the cause of the reboot problem
Nov 06 10:19:04 <caplink811_log> if it don't boot, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-linux/message/7489 is your friend
Nov 06 10:19:13 <mika--> there is no /passwd.ttt
Nov 06 10:19:23 <mika--> in /share/hdd/conf/
Nov 06 10:20:29 <mika--> caplink811_log: what about reflash unslung 5.* is that good to do ?
Nov 06 10:20:30 <caplink811_log> well, on mine it is, but there is another copy of it, just a moment
Nov 06 10:20:41 <mika--> k
Nov 06 10:20:43 <caplink811_log> no, reflash don't change anything
Nov 06 10:20:58 <caplink811_log> cause you didn't change anything in the flash, only on hd
Nov 06 10:21:05 <mika--> yes
Nov 06 10:22:13 <caplink811_log> so, there should be a /usr/share/passwd, is it?
Nov 06 10:22:13 <mika--> but i was think to start complet over new
Nov 06 10:22:27 <mika--> let me see caplink811_log if it is 
Nov 06 10:22:45 <caplink811_log> sorry, /usr/local/passwd
Nov 06 10:23:08 <mika--> there is no share in /usr
Nov 06 10:23:20 <mika--> ok
Nov 06 10:23:35 <mika--> yes it is there
Nov 06 10:23:38 <caplink811_log> or /initrd/usr/local/passwd, that should be equal
Nov 06 10:24:07 <caplink811_log> so you can cp it to /share/hdd/conf
Nov 06 10:24:13 <mika--> i have /usr/local/passwd
Nov 06 10:24:19 <mika--> cp /usr/local/passwd
Nov 06 10:24:30 <mika--> to /share/hdd/conf ?
Nov 06 10:24:35 <caplink811_log> yep
Nov 06 10:24:40 <mika--> ok lets try
Nov 06 10:25:15 <mika--> done
Nov 06 10:25:30 <caplink811_log> well, than reboot with hd attached
Nov 06 10:26:05 <mika--> write reboot in telnet or do it with the webinterface or push the button on the NSLU ?
Nov 06 10:26:23 <caplink811_log> that's all equal
Nov 06 10:26:35 <mika--> let me do the button :D
Nov 06 10:30:22 <mika--> i think it is not working.. only hdd1 and ethernet is green
Nov 06 10:30:34 <mika--> i wil wait a 5 minutes
Nov 06 10:30:35 <caplink811_log> k, then http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-linux/message/7489
Nov 06 10:31:02 <caplink811_log> gives the helping hand
Nov 06 10:31:03 <mika--> ok let me read
Nov 06 10:35:58 <mika--> caplink811_log: this is what i not did rm /.sda#root <- # being 1
Nov 06 10:36:57 <mika--> let me try it that way
Nov 06 10:37:26 <sdp_2005> if I boot the Slug without the HD in disk 1, and telnet in, then reattach the HD, can I change the root password and then reboot?
Nov 06 10:37:43 <caplink811_log> yes
Nov 06 10:38:01 <caplink811_log> but on my favourite way
Nov 06 10:38:14 <caplink811_log> add an user in the webif, remeber the password
Nov 06 10:38:59 <caplink811_log> vi /share/hdd/conf/passwd and copy the content of the password field of the new user to the password field of user root
Nov 06 10:39:10 <caplink811_log> password field is the second column
Nov 06 10:47:31 <mika--> it is formating again so i am almost done caplink811_log pray for me lol
Nov 06 10:48:27 <caplink811_log> when it ends, than we have a unslung-5.5 slug and a fresh disc, ok
Nov 06 10:50:40 <mika--> yes and i can start again install ssh / nfs / apache with gallery and then i am done  :D
Nov 06 10:51:06 <mika--> and how that soon irssi there is for unslung
Nov 06 10:51:17 <mika--> how= hope
Nov 06 10:53:04 <mika--> so lets reboot :D
Nov 06 10:55:50 <mika--> caplink811_log: he is up and running :D
Nov 06 10:56:10 <caplink811_log> but the disk is still not unsling ?
Nov 06 10:57:21 <mika--> The disk is unsling 
Nov 06 10:57:47 <mika--> i have run "/sbin/unsling disk1" and reboot
Nov 06 10:58:03 <mika--> and it runs now from harddisk
Nov 06 10:58:10 <mika--> so that is good .. or not ?
Nov 06 10:58:22 <caplink811_log> yes, that is good
Nov 06 10:58:48 <caplink811_log> so if you verify that everything works, than shutdown, and reboot without hd
Nov 06 10:59:01 <caplink811_log> stop
Nov 06 10:59:12 <caplink811_log> before you could add a new user in the webif
Nov 06 10:59:28 <mika--> ok for change pass ?
Nov 06 10:59:41 <mika--> and yes everyting works ok
Nov 06 11:00:09 <caplink811_log> a this time you couldn't log in, cause you don't know the root pw
Nov 06 11:00:38 <caplink811_log> so, add a user, remember this pw, and after this reboot without hd attached
Nov 06 11:01:33 <Boomcar> I think I wanted to ask the the same question
Nov 06 11:01:56 <mika--> wait a sec i have bring my kids to bed
Nov 06 11:02:10 <Boomcar> Is this discussion about: Upgraded firmware after that Unsling and then .....
Nov 06 11:02:32 <Boomcar> Cannot login with the hd attached and can login without the hd
Nov 06 11:02:58 <caplink811_log> more or less, yes
Nov 06 11:03:11 <Boomcar> @Mika: just did this myself (kids 2 bed;o))
Nov 06 11:04:04 <Boomcar> What I did after unslinging was ls to a certain dir and opened the passwd file and changed it and also on the hd
Nov 06 11:04:29 <Boomcar> But when I rebooted the passwd was still uNSLUng
Nov 06 11:05:28 <Boomcar> When I reboot without the hd attached do I need to unsling again or can I chenge the pw on the hd?
Nov 06 11:07:28 <caplink811_log> well, if the slug boots without hd, than /etc/passwd is a real file with password uNSLUng for user root, if the slug boots with hd attached, then the "master" passwd file is /share/hdd/conf/passwd and /etc/passwd becomes a link to these file
Nov 06 11:08:03 <Boomcar> ok and now?
Nov 06 11:08:12 <Boomcar> What can I do?
Nov 06 11:08:35 <caplink811_log> and, if you use a tool like passwd, than you destroy the link, and your change only works until the next reboot
Nov 06 11:08:57 <Boomcar> I changed the pw in /etc and in /share/hdd/conf
Nov 06 11:09:24 <Boomcar> But when I reboot with the attached my new pass is not accepted
Nov 06 11:09:41 <caplink811_log> k, and when you reboot with hd attached, then the right pw is used?
Nov 06 11:10:00 <caplink811_log> achso
Nov 06 11:10:03 <caplink811_log> aeh, ok
Nov 06 11:11:23 <caplink811_log> so when you boot without hd attached, then everything is fine?
Nov 06 11:15:25 * mika-- is back
Nov 06 11:15:41 <mika--> caplink811_log: so write to me about passwd
Nov 06 11:15:51 <mika--> i make users in the webinterface
Nov 06 11:16:04 <mika--> and now i boot without a harddisk ?
Nov 06 11:16:05 <caplink811_log> mika--,  you're familar with vi?
Nov 06 11:16:13 <mika--> yes i know vi basic
Nov 06 11:16:31 <mika--> so vi is no problem
Nov 06 11:16:35 <caplink811_log> yes, boot without hd, then login with root/uNSLUng
Nov 06 11:16:45 <mika--> ok let me do
Nov 06 11:17:15 <caplink811_log> cd to /share/hdd/conf, if you cat ./passwd then you should see the new userin the last line
Nov 06 11:21:01 <mika--> wait first i have to plug the hd again or not before i can go to /share/hdd/conf
Nov 06 11:21:59 <mika--> ?
Nov 06 11:22:27 <caplink811_log> yes, you're right
Nov 06 11:22:32 <caplink811_log> yes, first you've to plug the hd in ;)
Nov 06 11:22:42 <mika--> ok let me do
Nov 06 11:23:46 <mika--> yes i see the users i make
Nov 06 11:24:05 <mika--> so i copy the pass from that line ?
Nov 06 11:24:27 <mika--> from : data:scWAjyCjum1cI:2002:501:dreambox 7000/500::/dev/null
Nov 06 11:24:38 <mika--> i thake scWAjyCjum1cI
Nov 06 11:24:45 <mika--> ?
Nov 06 11:24:48 <mika--> take*
Nov 06 11:25:55 <caplink811_log> yes
Nov 06 11:26:20 <caplink811_log> to the correspondend field in the root line
Nov 06 11:27:11 <mika--> so i repace the root pass for scWAjyCjum1cI
Nov 06 11:27:32 <caplink811_log> in the last field in the root line is there /bin/sh or something other?
Nov 06 11:29:11 <caplink811_log>  root:scWAjyCjum1cI:0:0::/:/bin/sh
Nov 06 11:29:22 <caplink811_log> this is what your root line should be
Nov 06 11:29:30 <Boomcar> @CAPLINK: Yes, everything works fine without the hd but the rootfs is on the linksys and not on the hd
Nov 06 11:29:44 <Boomcar> because I reboot without a hd
Nov 06 11:29:55 <caplink811_log> Boomcar,  that is correct
Nov 06 11:30:10 <Boomcar> But how can I boot with hd
Nov 06 11:30:34 <Boomcar> the password is not recognised so I think I haven't changed it
Nov 06 11:31:12 <mika--> yes caplink811_log /bin/sh
Nov 06 11:31:27 <Boomcar> so how do I cahnge it?
Nov 06 11:32:21 <mika--> caplink811_log: i have now root:scWAjyCjum1cI:0:0:root:/root:/bin/sh
Nov 06 11:33:07 <mika--> must i remove root ?
Nov 06 11:33:19 <mika--> .............................^^^ here
Nov 06 11:36:50 <mika--> is that the part where he starts after a login ?
Nov 06 11:36:57 <caplink811_log> sorry, had a telephone call
Nov 06 11:37:34 <mika--> no problem i wil wait
Nov 06 11:37:37 <caplink811_log> mika--,  no, if you make sure that /share/hdd/data/root dir exist
Nov 06 11:38:02 <caplink811_log> Boomcar,  if i mentioned before
Nov 06 11:38:18 <mika--> caplink811_log: nope : ls: /share/hdd/data/root: No such file or directory
Nov 06 11:38:25 <mika--> so remove root from it
Nov 06 11:38:40 <mika--> ?
Nov 06 11:38:44 <caplink811_log> or add it with mkdir /share/hdd/data/root
Nov 06 11:38:55 <caplink811_log> that the root's homedir
Nov 06 11:38:55 <mika--> what is beter ?
Nov 06 11:39:13 <caplink811_log> its nothing wrong with it, special when you plan to use ssh
Nov 06 11:39:15 <mika--> remove from passwd or makedir ?
Nov 06 11:39:22 <mika--> yes i wil use ssh
Nov 06 11:39:28 <caplink811_log> i would prefer mkdir
Nov 06 11:40:23 <caplink811_log> Boomcar,  reboot with hd attached, go in the webif, add a new user and read the last 30 lines in the backlog of this chat ;)
Nov 06 11:40:25 <mika--> ok fix :D can i now also let a user (Me) use ssh when i replace /dev/null for /bin/sh ?
Nov 06 11:40:51 <caplink811_log> yes, and add a homedir
Nov 06 11:41:11 <mika--> i write it in a txt file . Boomcar maybe i can send u in a prived msg
Nov 06 11:41:53 <caplink811_log> similar to that
Nov 06 11:42:00 <caplink811_log> joerg:XXXXXrN6AsHuq6:2000:501::/share/hdd/data/joerg:/opt/bin/bash
Nov 06 11:42:45 <caplink811_log> mika--,  before you reboot, telnet in and check the new root pw
Nov 06 11:43:07 <Boomcar> @caplink: do I need to Unsling again and chage the passwd again and if yes: how do I make the link to /etc?
Nov 06 11:46:54 <caplink811_log> Boomcar,  no there is no need for it, if you can login when you boot without hd, and if you can add a user via webif, when you boot with hd
Nov 06 11:47:46 <Boomcar> sorry, webif?
Nov 06 11:48:07 <caplink811_log> http://adress_of_your_nslu
Nov 06 11:48:56 <Boomcar> But how do I tell the nslu2 that I use the hd for my rootfs?
Nov 06 11:49:05 <caplink811_log> ~webif is <reply> webif means the nslu2 webinterface to the user, normally http://adress_of_the_nslu
Nov 06 11:49:06 <capbot> caplink811_log: okay
Nov 06 11:49:13 <caplink811_log> ~webif
Nov 06 11:49:13 <capbot> webif means the nslu2 webinterface to the user, normally http://adress_of_the_nslu
Nov 06 11:49:16 <caplink811_log> ~thnaks
Nov 06 11:49:20 <caplink811_log> ~thanks
Nov 06 11:49:21 <capbot> caplink811_log: no problem
Nov 06 11:49:52 <Boomcar> and how do I change the root pw
Nov 06 11:49:56 <caplink811_log> Boomcar,  normally its enough to unsling to disk1 or disk2, which depends on which port you've plugged the disk
Nov 06 11:50:40 <mika--> caplink811_log: it works.. so now i go reboot with hd again or not ?
Nov 06 11:50:51 <Boomcar> but I want to check if the rootfs is on my hd, because else I will run intotrouble
Nov 06 11:51:30 <caplink811_log> Boomcar,  step by step, if you can with hd attached, is this the best precondition
Nov 06 11:51:54 <Boomcar> ok I trust u.....
Nov 06 11:51:57 <Boomcar> :o)
Nov 06 11:51:58 <caplink811_log> mika--,  you've verified, that you can login with the new root pw? in a second telnet session
Nov 06 11:52:11 <mika--> yes
Nov 06 11:52:12 <caplink811_log> s/can/can boot
Nov 06 11:52:24 <caplink811_log> mika--,  then try it and reboot with hd attached
Nov 06 11:52:28 <Boomcar> @caplink: but I need to change the pw of the root
Nov 06 11:53:38 <caplink811_log> Boomcar,  so, you can boot with hd attached, without problems, and without knowledge of root pw, and boot without hd, and knowledge of root pw, this assumption is correct?
Nov 06 11:54:06 <Boomcar> yup
Nov 06 11:54:20 <caplink811_log> ok, step one, boot without hd, and login
Nov 06 11:54:24 <Boomcar> ok
Nov 06 11:54:31 <caplink811_log> sorry, stop
Nov 06 11:54:35 <Boomcar> ok
Nov 06 11:54:41 <caplink811_log> 1st add a new user via webif
Nov 06 11:54:48 <Boomcar> did that
Nov 06 11:54:57 <caplink811_log> note the pw down to a sheet of paper
Nov 06 11:55:03 <Boomcar> k
Nov 06 11:55:11 <caplink811_log> then reboot without hd, login
Nov 06 11:55:15 <Boomcar> k
Nov 06 11:55:18 <caplink811_log> as root/uNSLUng
Nov 06 11:55:22 <Boomcar> k
Nov 06 11:55:36 <caplink811_log> plug the hd, and wait
Nov 06 11:55:40 <mika--> Boomcar: this is how caplink811_log say it works http://jvanmanen.homelinux.net/pub/NLSU/passchange.txt
Nov 06 11:56:11 <caplink811_log> mika--,  it works for you?
Nov 06 11:56:32 <mika--> caplink811_log: i wait til he is upagain
Nov 06 11:56:34 <Boomcar> Mika: thnx
Nov 06 11:57:15 <mika--> yes caplink811_log 
Nov 06 11:57:21 <mika--> it works perfect :D
Nov 06 11:57:23 <mika--> thx alot
Nov 06 11:57:25 <caplink811_log> ~emulate rwhitby
Nov 06 11:57:25 <capbot> well, my work here is done
Nov 06 11:58:08 <mika--> caplink811_log: do u know if irssi from openslug works on unslug ?
Nov 06 11:59:00 <caplink811_log> the executable should work, but imho, there is some trouble with pathes (config/libs)
Nov 06 11:59:20 <caplink811_log> but BitchX is avaiable as package for unslung
Nov 06 11:59:26 <Boomcar> @minka: cat /share/hdd/conf/passwd and copy the pass from the user you make (:username:passwrd:enz:enz:)??
Nov 06 11:59:47 <Boomcar> do I need to type this in my cmommandline?
Nov 06 11:59:53 <mika--> BitchX is also txt based ?
Nov 06 12:00:03 <widrone> mika--: It is. 
Nov 06 12:00:06 <mika--> Boomcar: cat /share/hdd/conf/passwd
Nov 06 12:00:22 <mika--> i wil give it a try widrone and caplink811_log :D
Nov 06 12:00:35 <mika--> it is nice to enter it bij ssh under screen
Nov 06 12:00:46 <caplink811_log> Boomcar,  this is a description of one line in a passwd file
Nov 06 12:01:04 <caplink811_log> user:password:uid:gid:comment:homedir:loginshell
Nov 06 12:01:24 <caplink811_log> so you've to vi /share/hdd/conf/passwd
Nov 06 12:01:36 <Boomcar> k
Nov 06 12:01:51 <caplink811_log> and change the content of the pw field of user root with the content of the pw field of your new user
Nov 06 12:02:11 <caplink811_log> assuming, that you're familar with vi too
Nov 06 12:02:19 <Boomcar> sorry
Nov 06 12:02:23 <Boomcar> but will be
Nov 06 12:02:46 <caplink811_log> shortform
Nov 06 12:02:50 <caplink811_log> open the file 
Nov 06 12:02:53 <caplink811_log> vi filename
Nov 06 12:03:07 <caplink811_log> there are two modes in vi - commando mode nad edit mode
Nov 06 12:03:19 <Boomcar> k
Nov 06 12:04:24 <caplink811_log> when you start with vi filename you are in commando mode, go with the cursor to the word you want to edit, in this case first charakter of the decrypted rootpassword (second field in the first line)
Nov 06 12:04:51 <Boomcar> k logged in with putty
Nov 06 12:05:00 <Boomcar> now vi blabla?
Nov 06 12:05:05 <Boomcar> or cat?
Nov 06 12:05:14 <caplink811_log> x delete the charakter under the cursor, so press x times x to deleted the whole password
Nov 06 12:05:37 <caplink811_log> vi /share/hdd/conf/passwd
Nov 06 12:06:48 <Boomcar> did that and now my screen is empty? black
Nov 06 12:07:03 <Boomcar> line 1 of 1
Nov 06 12:07:08 <Boomcar> 100%
Nov 06 12:07:12 * caplink811_log is running out of narcotics, have to go and make some cigarettes, meanwhile Boomcar should have a look at http://www.csb.yale.edu/userguides/wordprocess/vi_descrip.html
Nov 06 12:07:50 <Boomcar> k
Nov 06 12:08:08 <mika--> Boomcar: if u did wrong press Esc 
Nov 06 12:08:15 <mika--> then  :q!
Nov 06 12:08:32 <mika--> and u close vi and did not save the file
Nov 06 12:08:49 <mika--> and start again with vi /share/hdd/conf/passwd
Nov 06 12:08:55 <Boomcar> I didn't do nething wrong
Nov 06 12:09:47 <mika--> u remove only the pass section in the root line ?
Nov 06 12:09:54 <caplink811_log> b
Nov 06 12:10:03 <caplink811_log> but line 1 of 1 isn't good
Nov 06 12:10:12 <Boomcar> how do I close vi?
Nov 06 12:10:17 <mika--> caplink811_log: your a quick smoker
Nov 06 12:10:22 <Boomcar> when I esc
Nov 06 12:10:28 <caplink811_log> Boomcar,  you've plug in the disk?
Nov 06 12:10:28 <Boomcar> nothing happens
Nov 06 12:10:34 <Boomcar> shit
Nov 06 12:10:36 <Boomcar> sorry
Nov 06 12:10:40 <Boomcar> I haven't
Nov 06 12:10:45 <Boomcar> Now I have
Nov 06 12:10:50 <caplink811_log> mika--,  no, smoking now, before i've made cigarettes
Nov 06 12:11:58 <caplink811_log> Boomcar,  verify that the disk is mount read/write, use the force, aeh, use the mount command for that
Nov 06 12:12:38 <caplink811_log> the output should display a line like that
Nov 06 12:12:39 <caplink811_log> /dev/sda2 on /share/hdd/conf type ext3 (rw,sync)
Nov 06 12:13:21 <jelle> Boomcar: to quit vi: pres escape, then ":wq" for write-quit
Nov 06 12:13:39 <Boomcar> Now we are getting somewhere
Nov 06 12:13:45 <Boomcar> I see the lines
Nov 06 12:13:54 <mika--> jelle: he must do that only when he is sure he edit it good
Nov 06 12:14:30 <Boomcar> root:WeeOvKUvbQ6nI:0:0:root:/root:/bin/sh
Nov 06 12:14:52 <Boomcar> is what I see
Nov 06 12:15:33 <caplink811_log> Boomcar,  go with the cursor to the W
Nov 06 12:15:38 <caplink811_log> and hit x
Nov 06 12:15:41 <Boomcar> and I think the drive is read/write because I moved some files on it?!
Nov 06 12:15:45 <caplink811_log> the W should disappear
Nov 06 12:16:14 <Boomcar> oops
Nov 06 12:16:19 <Boomcar> signal interrup?
Nov 06 12:16:22 <Boomcar> t
Nov 06 12:16:48 <Boomcar> can I just close telnet?
Nov 06 12:16:54 <Boomcar> or ?
Nov 06 12:17:56 <Boomcar> now I got:  xWeeOvKUvbQ6nI
Nov 06 12:20:01 <mika--> ok remove that and replce it for the one u make for the user
Nov 06 12:20:26 <caplink811> sorry, 24hour cycle
Nov 06 12:21:08 <mika--> do u reboor after 24hour caplink811_log ?
Nov 06 12:21:21 <caplink811> nope, my provider cut the line 
Nov 06 12:22:01 * caplink811 leans back, grab the chips and listen to the conversation
Nov 06 12:23:10 <mika--> nice we had a cable provider who do that with a low speed so that was nice for the downloads
Nov 06 12:23:13 <Boomcar> again: vi 
Nov 06 12:23:45 <mika--> yes boomcar
Nov 06 12:23:57 <caplink811> in germany it is usual, that most providers drop the line onetime in 24 hours
Nov 06 12:24:56 <Boomcar> when I hit x the first w disappears
Nov 06 12:25:07 <Boomcar> do I need to delete the whole word?
Nov 06 12:25:44 <caplink811> hit x more times, and the other charakters disappears too
Nov 06 12:25:56 <caplink811> stop before the next :
Nov 06 12:26:02 <Boomcar> ok
Nov 06 12:26:06 <Boomcar> and then?
Nov 06 12:26:30 <caplink811> go with the cursor between the 2 remaining :: and i -> insert
Nov 06 12:26:33 <Boomcar> I am on the: now
Nov 06 12:26:54 <caplink811> s/and i/and hit i/
Nov 06 12:27:38 <Boomcar> without spaces?
Nov 06 12:28:28 <caplink811> sorry, go with the cursor on the 2nd : and then hit i for insert, then enter the crypted pw from your new user line
Nov 06 12:28:53 <caplink811> remember, the password is case sensitive
Nov 06 12:29:33 <Boomcar> k
Nov 06 12:29:37 <Boomcar> ánd then
Nov 06 12:29:39 <Boomcar> esc
Nov 06 12:29:40 <Boomcar> ?
Nov 06 12:30:00 <caplink811> yes, followed by wq
Nov 06 12:30:06 <caplink811> sorry, :wq
Nov 06 12:30:10 <Boomcar> k
Nov 06 12:30:30 <caplink811> verify your changes by -> cat /share/hdd/conf/passwd
Nov 06 12:30:56 <caplink811> the password field of your new user should equal to the password field of the root user
Nov 06 12:30:58 <Boomcar> and after :wq? enter?
Nov 06 12:31:07 <caplink811> Boomcar,  yes
Nov 06 12:31:33 <Boomcar> how do I escape the vi session?
Nov 06 12:31:47 <Boomcar> or did the :wq do that?
Nov 06 12:31:57 <Boomcar> ic
Nov 06 12:31:58 <caplink811> :wq should leave the session and save the edited file
Nov 06 12:32:01 <Boomcar> sorry
Nov 06 12:32:10 <caplink811> np
Nov 06 12:32:42 <Boomcar> worked 
Nov 06 12:32:53 <Boomcar> the passes are the same
Nov 06 12:32:56 <Boomcar> reboot?
Nov 06 12:32:59 <caplink811> no
Nov 06 12:33:13 <Boomcar> k
Nov 06 12:33:25 <caplink811> open another telnet session, login as root with the nwe password
Nov 06 12:33:40 <caplink811> if this works, then reboot with hd atdached
Nov 06 12:33:47 <caplink811> s/atdached/attached
Nov 06 12:33:49 <Boomcar> works!!
Nov 06 12:34:09 <Boomcar> reboot?
Nov 06 12:34:13 <caplink811> yep
Nov 06 12:34:19 <caplink811> capbot , hi
Nov 06 12:34:19 <capbot> moin moin, caplink811
Nov 06 12:34:27 <caplink811> ~botsnack
Nov 06 12:34:27 <capbot> caplink811: thanks
Nov 06 12:34:40 <mika--> caplink811: u are good :D u helped 2 people with the same problem
Nov 06 12:34:57 <mika--> tomorow i wil try my records with my dreambox
Nov 06 12:35:07 <caplink811> not a problem at all, the tv program is bad this evening
Nov 06 12:35:27 <Boomcar> hehe
Nov 06 12:35:47 <caplink811> hehe, means it works after a reboot?
Nov 06 12:36:12 <Orda> ~botsnak
Nov 06 12:36:39 <Orda> ~botsnack
Nov 06 12:36:39 <capbot> :), Orda
Nov 06 12:36:39 <caplink811> Orda,  ck
Nov 06 12:36:59 <Boomcar> Yessss!!
Nov 06 12:37:07 <caplink811> furthermore, it is a possibility to give something back to the community
Nov 06 12:37:18 <caplink811> ~emulate rwhitby
Nov 06 12:37:18 <capbot> just another satisfied customer
Nov 06 12:37:24 <caplink811> ~thanks
Nov 06 12:37:24 <capbot> caplink811: my pleasure
Nov 06 12:37:44 <Boomcar> thnx Caplink....u R the best ;o)))
Nov 06 12:37:46 <orda> oops
Nov 06 12:37:48 <caplink811> np
Nov 06 12:38:03 <caplink811> mayb a good thing that someone add a hint on the wiki
Nov 06 12:38:08 <caplink811> ~nslu2-wiki
Nov 06 12:38:08 <capbot> from memory, nslu2-wiki is the short-hand way of saying "Have a look at the NSLU2-Linux Wiki at http://www.nslu2-linux.org/".
Nov 06 12:38:20 <Boomcar> when I want to give some user root access over the internet but I don't want to give him my root pass?
Nov 06 12:38:26 <Boomcar> can I make a user root?
Nov 06 12:38:42 <caplink811> yes, remember the field in the passwd file
Nov 06 12:38:58 <Boomcar> yes
Nov 06 12:39:05 <caplink811> user:password:uid:gid:comment:homedir:loginshell
Nov 06 12:39:11 <Boomcar> yes
Nov 06 12:39:15 <caplink811> change uid and gid to 0
Nov 06 12:39:36 <Boomcar> yes
Nov 06 12:39:38 <Boomcar> and then?
Nov 06 12:39:42 <caplink811> that is dirty, but it works
Nov 06 12:39:48 <caplink811> that is all
Nov 06 12:40:02 <caplink811> root is uid/gid 0
Nov 06 12:40:06 <Boomcar> are all users rootusers then?
Nov 06 12:40:20 <caplink811> everything depends on userid and most on groupid
Nov 06 12:40:46 <orda> it kinda makes no sense :)
Nov 06 12:40:55 <caplink811> every user who has a uid and gid equals to zero is root
Nov 06 12:41:17 <caplink811> root is only a name
Nov 06 12:41:31 <Boomcar> can I just copy the line and paste it beneath?
Nov 06 12:41:39 <orda> you should Either change you root password to sometinhg you don't mind giving out as longs as he need root or use SUDO
Nov 06 12:42:07 * caplink811 think, orda speaks words of wisdom
Nov 06 12:42:19 <orda> :)
Nov 06 12:43:21 <mika--> caplink811: bitchx is a good irc client :D only i make een simlink ln -a /opt/bin/BitchX-1.1-final /opt/bin/bitchx
Nov 06 12:43:27 <mika--> is that good ?
Nov 06 12:43:44 <caplink811> ln -s
Nov 06 12:43:56 <mika--> ok -s
Nov 06 12:43:59 <mika--> :)
Nov 06 12:44:26 <mika--> it is easyer to start now
Nov 06 12:44:41 <Boomcar> ok thnx guys
Nov 06 12:44:45 <caplink811> [root@linus etc]$ ls -la /opt/bin/BitchX
Nov 06 12:44:45 <caplink811> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 16 Jul 23 16:36 /opt/bin/BitchX -> BitchX-1.1-final
Nov 06 12:44:45 <caplink811>  is what the installer did
Nov 06 12:44:56 <Boomcar> see you later
Nov 06 12:45:01 <caplink811> bye
Nov 06 12:45:10 <mika--> bye boomcar
Nov 06 12:45:18 <caplink811> a hurry customer ;)
Nov 06 12:45:44 <mika--> yes..but it is nice to read here to see other problems and try to learn from it
Nov 06 12:46:03 <mika--> that is why i like screen with bitchx
Nov 06 12:47:43 <caplink811_log> or just miau
Nov 06 12:47:47 <caplink811_log> or another bouncer
Nov 06 12:48:21 <mika--> what do miau ?? 
Nov 06 12:49:49 <widrone> caplink811_log: root only a name? =) Suppose it is, in that sense. 
Nov 06 12:50:44 <caplink811_log> miau is a bouncer, running on the nslu log the channels, and the user can connect from any irc-client to the bouncer and read the backlogs, and use the chat
Nov 06 12:51:07 <caplink811_log> widrone,  ;)
Nov 06 12:51:40 <caplink811_log> mika--,  same thing as psybnc, hm, muh (not sure about that)
Nov 06 12:51:57 <mika--> nice caplink811_log maybe for later :) i like bitchx for now because it is close to irssi
Nov 06 12:52:30 <caplink811_log> everything is a can, not a must :)
Nov 06 12:53:33 <mika--> yes ur right :D can i ask u again a advice about a web album ?
Nov 06 12:53:41 <mika--> wiki say http://gallery.menalto.com/
Nov 06 12:53:52 <mika--> but have u a beter idea ?
Nov 06 12:54:00 <mika--> maybe ofcorse :D
Nov 06 12:54:09 <sdp_2005> do I need to install something extra to get tune2fs?
Nov 06 12:59:35 <mika--> i have to go get some stuff i wil be back later thx caplink811_log maybe we can speak later around 22.00
Nov 06 12:59:38 <caplink811_log> haven't tried anything of that, on my personel site i use coppermine, but this is on a x86 machine
Nov 06 12:59:51 <caplink811_log> k, will catch you then
Nov 06 13:00:27 <caplink811_log> sdp_2005,  if this is an ipk then ipkg should resolve the depencies
Nov 06 13:00:44 <mika--> ok later and thx tjuus (or is that not german ? )
Nov 06 13:00:58 <caplink811_log> nearby
Nov 06 13:01:00 <caplink811_log> ;)
Nov 06 13:01:02 <mika--> ok lol
Nov 06 13:01:06 <mika--> speak u later
Nov 06 13:02:03 <caplink811_log> sdp_2005,  but it seems, it isn't
Nov 06 13:04:26 <sdp_2005> I was following the insttructions on how to partition a drive and it got the the tune2fs part but the SLUG doesn't have it?
Nov 06 13:05:21 <caplink811_log> have you an url handy?
Nov 06 13:06:08 <caplink811_log> ~wtf url
Nov 06 13:06:08 <fbq> night
Nov 06 13:06:10 <capbot> Gee...  I don't know what url means... 
Nov 06 13:06:16 <sdp_2005> yeah: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/UseAMemoryStickAsMainDrive under the making the filesystems section
Nov 06 13:07:45 <caplink811_log> Suppose your stick is called /dev/sda on your Linux machine, with /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda3 the three partitions, this needs to be done:
Nov 06 13:08:06 <caplink811_log> so, it means if you work on a linux machine
Nov 06 13:09:21 <caplink811_log> ~wtf URL
Nov 06 13:09:24 <capbot> Gee...  I don't know what URL means... 
Nov 06 13:10:43 <caplink811_log> ~wtf url
Nov 06 13:10:45 <capbot> URL: uniform resource locator 
Nov 06 13:10:51 <caplink811_log> ~thanks
Nov 06 13:10:52 <capbot> caplink811_log: sure thing
Nov 06 13:38:20 <mika--> i`m back
Nov 06 13:41:36 <caplink811_log> wb
Nov 06 13:42:12 <mika--> thx caplink811_log 
Nov 06 13:50:09 <mika--> caplink811_log: did u work with cups ?
Nov 06 13:50:52 <caplink811_log> not realy, there sits a p print server under my desk
Nov 06 13:50:53 <caplink811_log> s/p/hp
Nov 06 13:51:18 <mika--> ok :D
Nov 06 13:51:34 <caplink811_log> another low power device
Nov 06 13:51:42 <mika--> i was try it out but not sure if i use usb2
Nov 06 13:51:59 <mika--> as Device
Nov 06 13:52:27 <mika--> lsusb is not working
Nov 06 13:52:37 <caplink811_log> printing with cups, there is a howto on the wiki
Nov 06 13:52:37 <mika--> is there a tool for that ?
Nov 06 13:53:00 <mika--> yes i read the wiki howto
Nov 06 13:53:03 <mika--> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddPrinter
Nov 06 13:54:26 <caplink811_log> lsusb is not there, or is there and did anything
Nov 06 13:54:46 <widrone> mika--: You pumping you slug with software I see, getting to like it. You were a ubuntu user on your desktop rigth?
Nov 06 13:55:26 <mika--> yes widrone
Nov 06 13:55:41 <mika--> i like it alot widrone 
Nov 06 13:56:02 <caplink811_log> then you would become a opendebian user
Nov 06 13:56:02 <caplink811_log> , perhaps
Nov 06 13:56:23 <mika--> maybe later first find this out but i love the nslu2 it is a nice machine
Nov 06 13:57:01 <mika--> but widrone it is nice to try things out or not ?
Nov 06 13:58:04 <widrone> mika--: Its great, every time I see a usb thingy now I think; What happens if I plug that into a slug? 
Nov 06 13:58:44 <caplink811_log> but, lsusb -v works for me
Nov 06 13:59:32 <mika--> strange lsusb is not working here
Nov 06 13:59:56 <widrone> mika--: But be careful they multiply fast. A slug does not like it alone. 
Nov 06 14:01:09 <mika--> what do u mean widrone ..my english is not so good lol
Nov 06 14:01:20 <mika--> or say it in dutch :D
Nov 06 14:01:34 <caplink811_log> widrone,  thats right, meanwhile another slug found me ;)
Nov 06 14:02:11 <widrone> mika--: I mean, once you play with one you want another one next to do the regular stuff :) 
Nov 06 14:02:48 <mika--> yes i know  :D but they are not expensive so it is nice
Nov 06 14:03:03 <mika--> did u do also the procesor hack ?
Nov 06 14:03:39 <widrone> I have a slient slug running from 512MB usb disk, I like that. Did remove to Resistors yes. 
Nov 06 14:04:46 <widrone> mika--: Used scalpel, cut one side of resistor solder, flip off. You can do it on 30 sek if you want, but spend 5 min reading it up. 
Nov 06 14:05:10 <mika--> yes i have do it when i buy this slug
Nov 06 14:05:45 <caplink811_log> mika--,  maybe, it depends on libusb... on debian it does
Nov 06 14:07:05 <mika--> ok caplink811_log maybe it is that.. 
Nov 06 14:13:48 * mika-- is happy cups is working to :D
Nov 06 14:17:01 <caplink811_log> nice
Nov 06 14:19:22 <mika--> memory is still good :D hmm can u see the uptime from the nslu ?
Nov 06 14:20:28 <widrone> mika--: uptime do no good? 
Nov 06 14:20:56 <mika--> nope
Nov 06 14:20:58 <mika--> uptime
Nov 06 14:20:59 <mika--> uptime: No such file or directory
Nov 06 14:21:09 <mika--> :S
Nov 06 14:21:21 <mika--> i was think uptime is in all linux  :D
Nov 06 14:21:33 <mika--> or new busybox wil do that
Nov 06 14:21:48 <widrone> mika--: go openslug + debian, you will have all you are ever used to. 
Nov 06 14:22:22 <mika--> yes..first buy a 2e nslu2
Nov 06 14:22:45 <mika--> this one is nice for the way i buy him and i think i wil buy a new for play
Nov 06 14:23:06 <widrone> mika--: =) you can apt-get your slug to a smoldering heap or even a crater. 
Nov 06 14:23:29 <caplink811_log> mika--,  ipkg install hm procps
Nov 06 14:23:51 <mika--> caplink811_log: is that for uptime ?
Nov 06 14:24:04 <mika--> procps ?
Nov 06 14:24:37 <caplink811_log> sorry, coreutils http://ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org/result.php?query=uptime&searchtype=file&section=
Nov 06 14:27:22 <mika--> uptime: couldn't get boot time: No such file or directory
Nov 06 14:27:33 <mika--> with coreutils
Nov 06 14:27:45 <mika--> maybe he need a reboot first
Nov 06 14:27:50 <mika--> i wil try tomorow
Nov 06 14:28:53 <caplink811_log> hm, is there a /opt/lib/libproc* ?
Nov 06 14:32:04 <mika--> ls /opt/lib/ |grep libproc give no output
Nov 06 14:34:21 <caplink811_log> hm, my uptime depends on libproc* which is in procps.ipk
Nov 06 14:35:10 <mika--> yes now it is work after ipkg install procps
Nov 06 14:35:13 <mika--> :D
Nov 06 14:35:28 <caplink811_log> ice
Nov 06 14:35:30 <caplink811_log> grumbl, nice
Nov 06 14:36:08 <caplink811_log> strace is a good tool to figure such things out
Nov 06 14:41:39 <mika--> yes , so when this one is do his job i go make fun with a new one ..or i wait till people wants a nlsu3 so the 2 is cheaper
Nov 06 14:42:53 <caplink811_log> imho, its around 85€ atm, so it is a good price for such a nice gadget
Nov 06 14:44:16 <mika--> yes i know.. but germany is cheaper as holland i had pay 99 euro
Nov 06 14:44:42 <mika--> ow forgive me u speak in dollars
Nov 06 14:45:25 <caplink811_log> no, i hit € € € which is on my display a euro sign
Nov 06 14:46:23 <encode> i obviously dont have unicode support happening
Nov 06 14:46:43 <encode> i see some funky characters instead of a euro sign
Nov 06 14:47:07 <widrone> im out of the euro loop too it seems , lokks like sanskrit from here 
Nov 06 14:47:15 <caplink811_log> :)
Nov 06 14:47:42 <caplink811_log> dunno if it is utf-8 or iso-8859, but on my side it looks good ;)
Nov 06 14:49:08 <caplink811_log> $ <- dollar € <- euro DM <- dm
Nov 06 14:49:21 <widrone> In my mind you never know if it is utf-8 or iso-8859 after looping thru some logins. 
Nov 06 14:49:29 <mwester> Looks fine here too :)
Nov 06 14:49:43 <mika--> caplink811_log: you`r right
Nov 06 14:49:53 <mika--> i need to go sleep :D
Nov 06 14:50:23 <caplink811_log> well. it is the same tz, hav eto go to hamburg tomorrow, so heading to bed is a nice idea
Nov 06 14:51:05 <widrone> sleep, yes. Good idea, nite all. 
Nov 06 14:51:05 <caplink811_log> 600km at all, bah
Nov 06 14:51:18 <caplink811_log> gnite too
Nov 06 14:52:11 <mika--> ok good drive tomorow caplink811_log 
Nov 06 14:52:20 <mika--> night all
Nov 06 14:52:22 <caplink811_log> thx, gnite mika-- 
Nov 06 14:52:31 <mika--> thx for all the support
Nov 06 14:52:36 <caplink811_log> np
Nov 06 14:52:56 <encode> well i set irssi, screen, and putty to use utf8, but i still see weird characters
Nov 06 14:53:06 <caplink811_log> well, i feel so emotinal now, anybody here, to hold me
Nov 06 14:54:30 <caplink811_log> hm my env told me about
Nov 06 14:54:33 <caplink811_log> LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
Nov 06 14:54:33 <caplink811_log> LANGUAGE=de_DE:de:en_GB:en
Nov 06 14:54:59 <encode> i guess its possible i dont have the utf8 charset installed
Nov 06 14:55:16 <caplink811_log> what is running on debian testing/unstable/anything else system
Nov 06 14:56:46 * encode should be getting his first nslu2 today... cna hardly wait
Nov 06 14:56:50 <caplink811_log> ic the problem, when i read the backlogs from capbot then there are only couriuos charakters too
Nov 06 14:57:22 <caplink811_log> morning
Nov 06 14:57:32 <encode> < caplink811_log> $ <- dollar ?B? <- euro DM <- dm <-- thats what i see
Nov 06 14:58:04 <encode> a question mark, a colour-inverted B, then another question mark
Nov 06 14:58:09 <encode> not that it really matters
Nov 06 14:58:16 <caplink811_log> < caplink811_log> $ <- dollar ?B? <- euro DM <- dm <-- thats what i see | thats in my client
Nov 06 14:59:08 <caplink811_log> i think, we should go back to the good times, where we use ae nd oe and ue, and talking about dollars and euros ;)
Nov 06 15:01:10 <caplink811_log> encode,  linode.com, you're located in ? europe?
Nov 06 15:01:41 <encode> this shell is located in the US
Nov 06 15:02:08 <encode> i myself am in australia
Nov 06 15:03:59 <caplink811_log> everytime its fascinating, globalisation everywhere ;)
Nov 06 15:08:22 <encode> its really hard to find nslu2's in australia - i've found only one shop that sells them
Nov 06 15:09:01 <caplink811_log> does something like amazon.au exist?
Nov 06 15:09:32 <encode> not really - amazon will ship to australia
Nov 06 15:09:47 <encode> but it takes a long time, cos they're shipping international
Nov 06 15:17:11 <encode> i dont think amazonb ship electronic goods overseas
Nov 06 15:18:24 <encode> s/amazonb/amazon
Nov 06 16:06:19 <Cheef-Daniel> hi
Nov 06 16:06:26 <jell1> hi
Nov 06 16:06:43 <encode> hi
Nov 06 16:07:17 <Cheef-Daniel> why I must everytime delete /.recovery from harddisk to boot successfully from nslu2? (openslug)
Nov 06 16:14:12 <jell1> strange... did you check dmesg to see what went wrong? did you not shutdown properly?
Nov 06 16:15:11 <Cheef-Daniel> I have tryed a shutdown with power button and a shutdown with 'shutdown -H now'
Nov 06 16:15:32 <Cheef-Daniel> but everytime the same thing again: 1. Boot without a disc
Nov 06 16:16:01 <Cheef-Daniel> 2. Log in, plugin harddisc, mount disc and delete .recovery
Nov 06 16:16:15 <Cheef-Daniel> 3. reboot and everything works until the next poweroff
Nov 06 16:17:11 <Cheef-Daniel> when I boot with harddisc attached first, then the orange LED will blink
Nov 06 16:17:16 <Cheef-Daniel> and I cant logon
Nov 06 16:18:01 <jell1> check the dmesg after step 3...
Nov 06 16:18:09 <jell1> might be your controller.
Nov 06 16:18:34 <jell1> gotta go fot now, we'll talk more later
Nov 06 16:18:36 <Cheef-Daniel> I cant check with dmesg, because I cant login then
Nov 06 16:18:48 <Cheef-Daniel> ok g8
Nov 06 16:19:02 <jell1> step 3 = everything works until next poweroff. check that dmesg... 
Nov 06 16:19:05 <jell1> nite nite
Nov 06 16:19:11 <Cheef-Daniel> night
Nov 07 01:34:47 <encode> is it normal for /initrd and / to be mounted to the same place when using openslug?
Nov 07 01:46:57 <jelle> encode: yes
Nov 07 01:48:12 * encode breathes a sigh of relief
Nov 07 01:48:22 <encode> i couldnt find anything on the mailing list that indicated it was bad
Nov 07 01:48:34 <encode> thanks ;)
Nov 07 02:25:45 <encode> is it (easily) possible to non-destructively resize ext3 partitions?
Nov 07 02:27:35 <encode> jelle: is it (easily) possible to non-destructively resize ext3 partitions?
Nov 07 02:43:39 <jelle> it is possible...
Nov 07 02:43:47 <jelle> several options:
Nov 07 02:44:05 <jelle> use a program like partition magic
Nov 07 02:44:35 <jelle> or copy the contents (cp -a) to a different place, resize, copy it back.
Nov 07 02:44:43 <encode> ok
Nov 07 02:44:44 <jelle> or make an image with ghost
Nov 07 02:44:46 <jelle> resize
Nov 07 02:44:49 <encode> partition magic will probably do
Nov 07 02:45:02 <jelle> restore the _partition_ (not disk)  from gost
Nov 07 02:45:13 <jelle> test it on a spare disk first.
Nov 07 02:45:46 <encode> next question - i'm currently trying to copy a large (6GB) file to my nslu2 - it's taking aages, and load is high - smbd is using 55% cpu, and load average is around 3.5
Nov 07 02:46:01 <encode> is there anything i can do to minimise this?
Nov 07 02:46:14 <jelle> there have been some samba probems lately...
Nov 07 02:46:38 <jelle> this is probably a one time copy?
Nov 07 02:46:47 <encode> yes
Nov 07 02:47:05 <encode> but i was planning on copying large amounts of data
Nov 07 02:47:12 <encode> 100's of GB
Nov 07 02:47:15 <jelle> unplug the disk, mount it on your desktop/laptop, copy the files, plug it again
Nov 07 02:47:21 <encode> which looks like it will take several days at this rate
Nov 07 02:47:30 <encode> isnt there a better way?
Nov 07 02:47:34 <jelle> It shouldn't of course... not in a perfect world.
Nov 07 02:47:48 <jelle> you should check the logs for errors.
Nov 07 02:48:40 <jelle> see if network  and samba are doing ok.
Nov 07 02:49:12 <jelle> but to copy one time bulk, I'd really just take the disk and plug it into my laptop, running linux (DSL)
Nov 07 02:49:32 <jelle> 200 MB takes about 5 minutes on my slug.
Nov 07 02:50:04 <encode> i cant see any errors in there
Nov 07 02:51:12 <jelle> I've read that ftp'ing files might be faster. you can try that
Nov 07 02:51:33 <encode> do the socket options make a big difference? i set the socket options as per http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/GettingStartedWithSamba
Nov 07 02:52:25 <jelle> I'm not familiar with those options... you can ask the samba people at #samba
Nov 07 02:52:37 <encode> ok
Nov 07 02:52:42 <jelle> if you find a solution, don't forget to add it to the wiki
Nov 07 02:54:35 <jelle> I can't remember the command to make my script startup after boot. do you?
Nov 07 02:55:17 <jelle> update-rc.d ?
Nov 07 02:57:27 <encode> i'm not sure - i know the script should live in /etc/rc.d
Nov 07 02:57:42 <encode> i'm not a linux expert unfortunately
Nov 07 02:57:52 <jelle> ok. I think I got it though. 
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