**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 07 02:59:57 2005
Nov 07 03:03:02 <jelle> looks like samba people are not awake yet. might wanna try again in a few hours, when the US open their eyes
Nov 07 03:07:02 <encode> hehe, in a few hours my eyes will be closed
Nov 07 03:10:12 <encode> it seems to be a relatively common problem, judging from all teh discussion on the yahoo mailing list
Nov 07 03:28:52 <Snow-Joy> hi. i'm thinking about installing unslug on my brand new Linksys router. the main reason to do this is that i want to wake up my HTPC computer.
Nov 07 03:29:21 <Snow-Joy> i dont want to have my HTPC running 24/7, but it would be nice to be able to turn it on over the internett, if i'm on vecation etc, and want to access some files or schedule a recording
Nov 07 03:29:46 <Snow-Joy> i expect my Linksys to be turned on 24/7, so it would be nice if i could telnet into it / access a web interface, and then send a wake on lan package to my HTPC
Nov 07 03:30:59 <LoppApan> Snow-Joy: don't know about unlsung, but it should be easy with openslug, ssh and wakeonlan. At least I'm planning to do it myself.
Nov 07 03:32:01 <widrone> Snow-Joy: Linksys Router ? What sort of hw is this? Sounds exciting! 
Nov 07 03:35:07 <Snow-Joy> wildrone: oh, hehe. sorry, Linksys Network Storage :P 
Nov 07 03:35:50 <Snow-Joy> LoppApan: i didnt  find a complete package/feauture list for Unslug, only a change log...
Nov 07 03:36:19 <Snow-Joy> i'm a Linux n00b, so was oping that using the Unslog binary and update trough the Linksys web interface would be enough.
Nov 07 03:36:25 <LoppApan> Snow-Joy: ah ok
Nov 07 03:36:59 <LoppApan> Snow-Joy: well, about unslung I wouldn't know really. sorry. Maybe someone else will. But if not, you can be the firs to know!
Nov 07 03:38:43 <Snow-Joy> hmm. okey, strange. well, i'll guess i'll just have  to dig a little deeper into the unslug wiki. strange that there is no list of modules supported.
Nov 07 03:40:20 <jelle> sigh.
Nov 07 03:43:18 <jelle> struggling with openvpn on openslug
Nov 07 03:43:23 <jelle> all very open... 
Nov 07 03:44:11 <jelle> how do I make openvpn start automatically on bootup?
Nov 07 03:44:59 <widrone> Snow-Joy: Im not really unslung help either, just ran it for some weeks before I went openslug. But there is loads of info in the wiki still. 
Nov 07 03:45:38 <Snow-Joy> widrone: could you point me to a link with info about what "unslug" can do? i only found the changelog between 2.0->3.0->4.0->5.0.. not a full list of packages
Nov 07 03:46:20 <Snow-Joy> which file system does the Linksys use.. FAT32..? The device will be used in a winodws network, so need windows fileshare
Nov 07 03:46:50 <Snow-Joy> oh, i can download packages for unslug, even if i dont want to compile it my self..?
Nov 07 03:47:13 <jelle> unslug can do a lot of things. see wiki-successstories
Nov 07 03:47:22 <jelle> linksys uses linux fs
Nov 07 03:47:54 <jelle> if you use unslung, or openslug you can also mount fat32 disks
Nov 07 03:48:10 <Snow-Joy> "..make sure that you have installed a hard drive or memory stick and "unslung" to it.."
Nov 07 03:48:22 <Snow-Joy> what does "unslug to it" mean..? 
Nov 07 03:48:28 <Snow-Joy> simply boot it up and access the disk..?
Nov 07 03:48:32 <Snow-Joy> jelle: oh, excellent. 
Nov 07 03:48:43 <widrone> Snow-Joy: ext3, but samba will share that over network so win can get at it. 
Nov 07 03:49:08 <jelle>  to unsling, you have to follow the readme that comes with the unslung firmware
Nov 07 03:49:35 <widrone> read and follow =) 
Nov 07 03:49:52 <jelle> it is all about booting without disk, putting unslung firmware on it, rebooting without disk, attaching disk, running the unsling command, rebooting... 
Nov 07 03:49:59 <Snow-Joy> yeah, havent downloaded yet, just reading the wiki.. plaved my order yesterday, so porbably getting it day after tomorrow
Nov 07 03:50:16 <Snow-Joy> jelle: okey, sounds easy to follow:)
Nov 07 03:50:30 <jelle> right. the confusing thing indeed is that the install information is in the readme. download it and see what it tells you...
Nov 07 03:51:05 <jelle> it is easy to follow... really doing fun with linux will be a little harder. ;) just my problem now
Nov 07 03:51:23 <jelle> like getting openvpn to run on openslug
Nov 07 03:51:57 <Snow-Joy> oh. hehe, yeah, can imagine. the basic stuff will do for me. if i can telnet into it, or perhaps even make a web interface, to wake up and shutdown my computer i'll be happy :P so the downloaded modules get's installed on the attached hdrive, right? 
Nov 07 03:52:50 <widrone> Snow-Joy: Where you get it from, since were both .no and Im looking to get myself another one. Cheap place? 
Nov 07 03:53:27 <jelle> right, downloaded modules on hdrive, if you booted from hdrive after unslinging...
Nov 07 03:55:42 <Snow-Joy> widrone: getting it from komplett.no
Nov 07 03:56:10 <Snow-Joy> widrone: 895,-
Nov 07 03:58:21 <encode> jelle: have you installed 'man' on your nslu2?
Nov 07 03:59:54 <jelle> nope
Nov 07 04:00:15 <jelle> http://man.linuxquestions.org
Nov 07 04:00:30 <jelle> or I just type --help after the command.
Nov 07 04:10:09 <widrone> Snow-Joy: Thanks, just keeping up with the local markets. 
Nov 07 04:50:46 <encode> what package should i install on openslug to provide ftp?
Nov 07 04:51:10 <encode> ftpd-topfield seems to require some topfield device present when i try and run it
Nov 07 04:57:53 <encode> jelle: had much experience with ftp on nslu2?
Nov 07 04:58:19 <jelle> no. not yet...
Nov 07 04:58:29 <jelle> you? any problems?
Nov 07 04:58:40 <encode> i dont know what package to install
Nov 07 04:58:47 <jelle> rignt. let me look
Nov 07 04:58:48 <encode>  < encode> ftpd-topfield seems to require some topfield device present when i try and run it
Nov 07 04:58:56 <LoppApan> encode: ftpserver?
Nov 07 04:59:15 <jelle> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/SetupFtpd
Nov 07 04:59:23 <LoppApan> use proftpd or vsftp
Nov 07 04:59:35 <LoppApan> but it's all in that wikinode
Nov 07 04:59:52 <jelle> yes. it is there
Nov 07 05:00:13 <encode> there doesnt appear to be proftpd or vsftp in the repository for openslug
Nov 07 05:00:22 <jelle> the page I gave, is the old one, with links to proftpd and vsftp
Nov 07 05:05:47 <encode> is there some other repository with either proftpd or vsftp in it?
Nov 07 05:06:50 <jelle> what is wrong with ipkg install proftpd?
Nov 07 05:06:59 <jelle> did you ipkg update first?
Nov 07 05:08:02 <LoppApan> I installed vsftp yesterday
Nov 07 05:08:12 <encode> i'm fairly sure i did an update
Nov 07 05:08:16 <encode> let me run another
Nov 07 05:08:35 <jelle> after reboot you have to do an update again...
Nov 07 05:08:47 <encode> oooh
Nov 07 05:10:12 <jelle> (update stores it's information in tmp, which is flushed after reboot)
Nov 07 05:11:16 <encode> that makes sense
Nov 07 05:11:20 <jelle> brb
Nov 07 05:13:34 <jelle> hurray, openvpn running.
Nov 07 05:13:49 <encode> (y)
Nov 07 05:13:51 <encode> well done
Nov 07 05:16:25 <encode> my nslu2 has slowed to a crawl, even copying from one usb disk to another
Nov 07 05:16:53 <encode> cp is using 65% of cpu, average load up to 6.17
Nov 07 05:21:04 <jelle> strange.
Nov 07 05:21:31 <jelle> might wanna try a turboslug... but will help only so much
Nov 07 05:29:07 <encode> yeah
Nov 07 05:29:44 <encode> i take it my experience isnt typical?
Nov 07 05:46:09 <encode> LoppApan: when you installed vsftp, do you know where the default chroot directory is?
Nov 07 06:08:03 <LoppApan> encode: I changed the config to allow local users, then they seem pretty stuck in their home directory
Nov 07 08:11:22 <switchback> Somebody here who has time for a quick question?
Nov 07 10:00:15 <kami22> hi can anyone tell me how i can add a new package to my cross development system? on my Openslug i only have to do this 3 commands: configure, make , make install how have the *.bb file look like?
Nov 07 10:23:12 <kami22> problem is solved
Nov 07 14:37:38 <mika--> avond
Nov 07 14:37:44 <mika--> sorry evening :D
Nov 07 14:42:05 <caplink811_log> morning
Nov 07 15:18:43 <encode> hi caplink811_log 
Nov 07 15:19:05 <caplink811_log> morning encode 
Nov 07 15:43:09 <mika--> caplink811_log: morning ? u was from germany or not ?
Nov 07 15:43:22 <caplink811_log> yes, but 
Nov 07 15:43:25 <caplink811_log> ~ugt
Nov 07 15:43:28 <capbot> i guess ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant.
Nov 07 15:43:41 <caplink811_log> ~thanks
Nov 07 15:43:42 <capbot> caplink811_log: de rien
Nov 07 15:44:12 <caplink811_log> :)
Nov 07 15:44:33 <mika--> ok then morning :D
Nov 07 15:44:51 <caplink811_log> morning ;)
Nov 07 15:46:50 <caplink811_log> but now in my tz it's evening, and i've been on the road for 600km this day, so i'm something like braindeath, have a nice evening/day/afternoon
Nov 07 15:47:14 <caplink811_log> and also a nice morning ;)
Nov 07 15:48:09 <mika--> what do u do for work then ?
Nov 07 15:50:07 <caplink811_log> normally in fild support for a glaobal communication company, today i went to hambug (from berlin) to brush up my english, paid by my employee
Nov 07 15:50:16 <caplink811_log> nor, company
Nov 07 15:51:49 <mika--> ok nice job..lot of computers or not ?
Nov 07 15:52:19 <caplink811_log> well, yes, and a lot of tk equipment too
Nov 07 15:53:02 <caplink811_log> and disaffected customers too
Nov 07 15:53:05 <caplink811_log> ;)
Nov 07 15:54:04 <mika--> nice.. 
Nov 07 15:54:32 <mika--> when do u drive back home ?
Nov 07 15:54:43 <caplink811_log> and a place where hobby meets business, and contrary
Nov 07 15:55:57 <mika--> yes that is nice when hobby is business 
Nov 07 15:55:57 <caplink811_log> i've start this morning at 9:30 in berlin, wrrived in hamburg at 13:00, and went back at 16:30, so i'm at home at 20:00, having bad weather on the highway, very strange :(
Nov 07 15:56:25 <mika--> it is only cold here 
Nov 07 15:56:35 <mika--> but that is the time of the year
Nov 07 15:56:53 <caplink811_log> well, here too, but, not so cold as yesterday
Nov 07 15:57:52 <caplink811_log> what do you do in real life?
Nov 07 15:57:57 <mika--> Yesterday i dont know i stayed in the house playing with the nslu lol
Nov 07 15:58:12 <mika--> i am a truck mechanic bij mercedes
Nov 07 15:58:19 <mika--> by*
Nov 07 16:01:58 <encode> what package should i install to get hdparm?
Nov 07 16:05:20 <caplink811_log> encode,  unslung?
Nov 07 16:05:29 <encode> sorry, openslug
Nov 07 16:06:30 <caplink811_log> http://ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org/result.php?query=hdparm&searchtype=file&section= only gives, hm, bad result, so i dunno
Nov 07 16:07:42 <caplink811_log> ok, guys, i'out now, braindead and tired, catch you tomorrow
Nov 07 16:07:46 <caplink811_log> gnite all
Nov 07 16:07:54 <mika--> sleep well caplink811_log 
Nov 07 16:08:14 <caplink811_log> mika--,  you too, and encode have a nice day
Nov 07 16:08:25 <encode> ta caplink811_log 
Nov 07 16:08:32 <encode> cya
Nov 07 16:13:53 <encode> will an unslung package work with openslug?
Nov 07 18:08:37 <ByronT> encode, probably not
Nov 07 18:09:09 <ByronT> they are different kernels, and have different paths - for the minor differences...
Nov 07 18:59:13 <encode> without setting up a build environment and compiling hdparm myself, is there any other way of getting it running on openslug 2.7?
Nov 07 19:15:23 <encode> has anyone run e2fsck -D on a slug before?
Nov 08 00:12:35 <dhex> I have a 512 mb flash drive that was recognized by the linksys firmware.  I removed it, installed uNSLUng 5.5, and rebooted.  Rebooted with the flash drive in, and it now lists the drive as having 0mb, and the format option says it doesn't exist.
Nov 08 00:13:07 <dhex> Has anyone else seen this kind of behavior?
Nov 08 00:16:12 <dhex> I followed all of the step in the readme up to this point exactly and am stuck at step 4, verifying my flash disk.
Nov 08 00:38:17 <dhex> update: I realized that I can browse to it on SMB, and copying files works fine.
Nov 08 00:40:04 <dhex> Just on the web interface- front page says 0MB, 0% free, and the Admin::Advanced::Disk says Disk 2 not installed.
Nov 08 00:46:41 <encode> does uNSLUng have telnet / ssh?
Nov 08 00:46:48 <encode> connect to the slug
Nov 08 00:46:49 <encode> and run
Nov 08 00:46:53 <encode> fdisk -l
Nov 08 00:46:57 <encode> to list the partition tables
Nov 08 01:07:03 <dhex> # fdisk -l /dev/sdb
Nov 08 01:07:03 <dhex> Disk /dev/sdb: 16 heads, 62 sectors, 1015 cylinders
Nov 08 01:07:03 <dhex> Units = cylinders of 992 * 512 bytes
Nov 08 01:07:03 <dhex>    Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
Nov 08 01:07:04 <dhex> /dev/sdb1   *         1      1016    503792    e  Win95 FAT16 (LBA)
Nov 08 01:07:06 <dhex> Partition 1 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
Nov 08 01:07:08 <dhex>      phys=(0, 1, 1) logical=(0, 0, 33)
Nov 08 01:07:10 <dhex> Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
Nov 08 01:07:14 <dhex>      phys=(943, 15, 32) logical=(1015, 11, 54)
Nov 08 01:07:16 <dhex> Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary:
Nov 08 01:07:18 <dhex>      phys=(943, 15, 32) should be (943, 15, 62)
Nov 08 01:19:52 <encode> and what does "mount" say?
Nov 08 01:23:08 <dhex> disclaimer: I mounted a fat32 usb2 harddrive in the meantime, explaining the last entry.
Nov 08 01:23:10 <dhex> # mount
Nov 08 01:23:10 <dhex> /dev/mtdblock4 on / type jffs2 (rw)
Nov 08 01:23:10 <dhex> usbdevfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw)
Nov 08 01:23:10 <dhex> /dev/mtdblock4 on /dev.state type jffs2 (rw)
Nov 08 01:23:13 <dhex> ramfs on /dev type ramfs (rw)
Nov 08 01:23:15 <dhex> /dev/mtdblock4 on /var.state type jffs2 (rw)
Nov 08 01:23:17 <dhex> ramfs on /var type ramfs (rw)
Nov 08 01:23:19 <dhex> none on /tmp type ramfs (rw)
Nov 08 01:23:21 <dhex> /dev/sdb1 on /share/flash/data type vfat (rw)
Nov 08 01:23:23 <dhex> /dev/sda1 on /mnt type vfat (rw)
Nov 08 01:32:51 <encode> i've no experience with unslung
Nov 08 01:33:19 <encode> but the fdisk and the mount seem to show that its mounted it ok
Nov 08 01:33:29 <encode> what reports the drive as having 0mb?
Nov 08 01:42:21 <dhex> The web interface.
Nov 08 01:43:09 <dhex> I can access the drive fine over samba, only I can't format it over the web interface.
Nov 08 01:44:32 <encode> i've got no idea, never having used the web interface
Nov 08 01:44:35 <dhex> It's not an urgent problem, as I can bypass the WI via telnet and mount/fdisk manually, but I thought I'd put it out there as bizarre behavoir that may discourage a newbie.
Nov 08 01:44:38 <encode> sorry
Nov 08 01:45:30 <dhex> Is there a better place to post about this?
Nov 08 01:46:56 <dhex> I noticed the nslu2-log bot, perhaps this will get indexed on the site for people with similar problems?
Nov 08 01:48:33 <encode> you could try the mailing list
Nov 08 01:48:47 <encode> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-linux
Nov 08 01:49:45 <dhex> sure.  thanks.
Nov 08 01:54:17 <NSLU2-IRC> hi there
Nov 08 01:54:49 <NSLU2-IRC> nick Mlemaudit
Nov 08 01:55:41 <Mlemaudit> is there somebody ?
Nov 08 01:56:23 <widrone_away> encode: There is a bug in some code that shows disk 2 as 0 I seem to remember. 
Nov 08 01:59:03 <widrone> Its in the FAQ too really, http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/Disk2Showing0Free
Nov 08 02:00:15 <widrone> Mlemaudit: There is I recon. 
Nov 08 02:00:47 <widrone> dhex: Linksys bug that trailed over.  
Nov 08 02:07:38 <jelle> Mlemaudit: me is here too
Nov 08 02:09:44 <encode> i have another openslug question - what should i edit to make sure my swap gets turned on during startup
Nov 08 02:09:56 <encode> at the moment i'm having to run swapon /dev/sda3 
Nov 08 02:09:58 <encode> manually
Nov 08 02:10:45 <widrone> encode: /etc/fstab
Nov 08 02:11:06 <widrone> encode: /dev/hda3       none            swap    sw                      0       0
Nov 08 02:11:32 <widrone> encode: Or something like that. The mount -a takes care of the rest at bootup. 
Nov 08 02:12:02 <widrone> mount -a mounts all fs in fstab file (except the ones with noauto)
Nov 08 02:12:39 <encode> ok, ta
Nov 08 02:12:56 <widrone> encode: If you are running swap from a partition that is, else subst the filemname for the /dev/***
Nov 08 02:13:35 <encode> /dev/sdb1       /mnt/sdb1       ext3    defaults        1  1
Nov 08 02:13:35 <encode> /dev/sda3       none            swap    sw              0  0
Nov 08 02:13:40 <encode> so that looks ok?
Nov 08 02:16:00 <encode> hooray, it works
Nov 08 02:16:29 <encode> next question - how do i set the date on my slug so it reflects the time now, rather than dec 31 1999
Nov 08 02:17:14 <widrone> date to set manually, or try ntpdate if you want to synch with timeservers over ntp protocol. 
Nov 08 02:17:21 <encode> ok
Nov 08 02:17:56 <widrone>  think the date format is like MMDDhhmmYYYY
Nov 08 02:17:59 <encode> is openssh better than dropbear? or just an alternative
Nov 08 02:18:09 <encode> i've not used dropbear apart from on my slug
Nov 08 02:22:16 <widrone> encode: Dunno really, db supposed to be ligther whatever that means. Probably got smaller mem footprint. 
Nov 08 02:22:55 <encode> ok
Nov 08 02:25:06 <widrone> Again the FAQ has something to say on the matter: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/WhichSSHDaemon =)
Nov 08 02:26:06 <widrone> The FAQ makes me look like the smart one really, I just pull up answers and lie about it here... Muahaha! 
Nov 08 02:32:07 <jelle> lol
Nov 08 02:37:19 <dhex> widrone: thanks.
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