**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Nov 08 02:59:58 2005
Nov 08 04:19:05 <encode> widrone: you around still?
Nov 08 04:19:26 <widrone> encode: Almost. Sure. 
Nov 08 04:19:33 <encode> lol
Nov 08 04:19:59 <encode> i seem to have an issue with samba and individual files over 4GB on my slug - anything that i can do about that?
Nov 08 04:20:53 <encode> any file thats on my filesystem thats over 4GB, i see a smaller filesize in samba, and the file appears to be truncated
Nov 08 04:24:25 <widrone> Hm, I need to find a file and have a look. Must be some large files around here somewhere. 
Nov 08 04:25:50 <encode> large video files work well
Nov 08 04:26:20 <encode> (for testing with large files - i dont mean that they're unaffected by the 4GB limit)
Nov 08 04:26:55 <widrone> For some reason not alot of the files I have on the slugshares are over 800M.
Nov 08 04:27:36 <widrone> Maybe samba has issues with +4G files. Does it damage files or just show wrong size? 
Nov 08 04:27:40 <encode> when i do an ls -l on my slug, the files are the correct size
Nov 08 04:27:50 <encode> but in windows, it reports them as being undersized
Nov 08 04:27:58 <encode> and acts like they're truncated
Nov 08 04:28:16 <encode> i cant access parts of the file after (presumably) 4GB
Nov 08 04:31:22 <widrone> encode: All I know is that there is a lot of fluff on the web about smbfs and 4gb files. But it seems to be fixed to me. 
Nov 08 04:31:32 <encode> ok, i posted on the yahoo group - hopefully someone can help out
Nov 08 04:38:10 <encode> its not windows thats the issue - if i mount the samba share from another linux box, i get the same truncated file sizes
Nov 08 04:43:22 <encode> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-linux/message/9446 <-- interesting
Nov 08 09:50:59 <Superkuh_> .../nick Superkuh
Nov 08 09:51:05 <Superkuh_> ...bad day today.
Nov 08 14:23:47 <mika--> morning @all  :P
Nov 08 14:26:14 <jelle> howdi mika--
Nov 08 14:27:07 <caplink811_log> hi mika-- 
Nov 08 14:27:45 <mika--> fine and how is life here ?
Nov 08 14:31:52 <caplink811_log> everything's well today
Nov 08 14:38:58 <mika--> good to hear :D
Nov 08 15:04:02 <encode> caplink811_log: do you have any epxerience with samba on openslug, and large files (greater than 4GB)?
Nov 08 15:04:58 <caplink811_log> nope, surely not, only using samba in unlsung, and deb, without big files, i'm not a video fan at all
Nov 08 15:05:44 <encode> ok
Nov 08 15:12:31 <caplink811_log> encode,  afair, there was an issue between 3.0.14 and 3.0.20 depend on file size, but mho NAiL had this solved with his build, si it should be in the repository
Nov 08 15:18:08 <mika--> caplink811_log: is ipkg update && ipkg upgrade nodig ?
Nov 08 15:18:21 <mika--> sorry is that usefull
Nov 08 15:18:27 <caplink811_log> np
Nov 08 15:18:49 <caplink811_log> ipkg update yes, cause it brings the package list to the last revision
Nov 08 15:19:09 <caplink811_log> so you have the choice to install a new version
Nov 08 15:19:32 <caplink811_log> ipkg upgrade install automagically all new versions
Nov 08 15:20:10 <mika--> yes so ipkg upgrade is usefull to do
Nov 08 15:21:31 <mika--> lot of kernel updates
Nov 08 15:25:30 <mika--> and checkdisk in the webinterface do u need this ?
Nov 08 15:26:31 <caplink811_log> if you running unslung, no, cause is disfunctional if you would use it n the disk where your rootfs live
Nov 08 15:27:17 <caplink811_log> in this case you should reboot without hd, login, plug the disk, and than run ext3.fsck, or so
Nov 08 15:27:27 <encode> caplink811_log: pany idea what the ipk filename is for that build of smaba that apparently has solved the problem?
Nov 08 15:27:33 <mika--> ok so never do it :D
Nov 08 15:28:10 <encode> i've tried samba_3.0.20-r2_armv5teb.ipk, samba_3.0.20-r2_armeb.ipk, and samba_3.0.14a-r12_armeb.ipk
Nov 08 15:35:07 <caplink811_log> it should be the 0.20 version from th eopenslug feed, imho, but for clarification, you should talk wiht NAil (at #openslug or #nslu2-linux)
Nov 08 15:37:45 <encode> ok
Nov 08 15:37:47 <encode> ta
Nov 08 19:07:50 <Gnub> i remember comeing across a page last night... some1 had a LCD mmc or sd card addon and a serial console, even had it hooked upto a video card or something... monitor connected to router wire clips everywhere... talked about streamin music to his bathroom? any1 kno what imtalkin about? WRT54GS
Nov 08 19:07:59 <Gnub> i cant find it agian
Nov 08 19:08:45 <Gnub> a realy cool page i might add
Nov 08 19:47:10 <cheef-daniel> Gnub?
Nov 08 19:47:19 <Gnub> yea
Nov 08 19:47:31 <cheef-daniel> I have attached my Palm to the Slug
Nov 08 19:47:46 <cheef-daniel> you are searching for a LCD on a palm?
Nov 08 19:47:58 <Gnub> no the wrt54 router
Nov 08 19:48:11 <cheef-daniel> oh, ok
Nov 08 19:48:47 <Zhyla> hey guys I'm trying to flash my new nslu2 w/ upslug, nott working... what kind of dumb things am I probably doing wrong?
Nov 08 19:49:08 <cheef-daniel> define 'not working'
Nov 08 19:49:17 <Zhyla> upslug can't locate any slugs
Nov 08 19:49:37 <Zhyla> and gives the helpful error message, "turkey problems?"
Nov 08 19:50:51 <cheef-daniel> with os?
Nov 08 19:51:09 <cheef-daniel> which os?
Nov 08 19:51:16 <Zhyla> sorry, linux, an old RH9 box
Nov 08 19:52:08 <cheef-daniel> sorry I don't understand: what do you want to flash onto the nslu2?
Nov 08 19:52:22 <Zhyla> openslug 2.7
Nov 08 19:52:39 <cheef-daniel> do you have windows?
Nov 08 19:53:03 <Zhyla> ummm... yeah, why?
Nov 08 19:53:20 <cheef-daniel> then you could use another tool, it worked for me
Nov 08 19:53:32 <Zhyla> point me at it dude :)
Nov 08 19:53:41 <cheef-daniel> i am searching
Nov 08 19:53:44 <Zhyla> thx
Nov 08 19:54:08 <Zhyla> but I think I just have a networking problem... what IP address does the slug pop up at by default?
Nov 08 19:54:48 <cheef-daniel> on this page you find all about flashing the binary to the NSLU2: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/UsingTheBinary
Nov 08 19:55:25 <Zhyla> ah that is what I've been looking for... sorry I read this all before but forgot by the time the thing showed up
Nov 08 19:56:00 <cheef-daniel> default IP is: 192.168.1.77 
Nov 08 19:58:00 <cheef-daniel> I flashed i using the Sercomm's Win32 tool descriped on that page
Nov 08 19:58:12 <encode> i used the sercomm tool also
Nov 08 19:58:18 <cheef-daniel> you don't need an IP than
Nov 08 19:58:32 <encode> worked flawlessly, but then my slug had a dhcp assigned ip address
Nov 08 20:00:12 <cheef-daniel> I have some problem getting cups on openslug to work
Nov 08 20:01:02 <cheef-daniel> has anybody done it?
Nov 08 20:01:09 <encode> havent tried
Nov 08 20:01:42 <encode> i have some problems with filesizes greater than 4GB and samba on my openslug, no-one seems to have a solution
Nov 08 20:02:26 <cheef-daniel> fat partition?
Nov 08 20:02:40 <Zhyla> yeah I think I saw that post on the message board
Nov 08 20:02:47 <Zhyla> I think it's just a samba limitation
Nov 08 20:03:07 <encode> but samba can be compiled to support larger files
Nov 08 20:03:13 <encode> i dont know why they didnt set that flag
Nov 08 20:03:30 <encode> or actually, it might be a patch - i've read about a LFS patch
Nov 08 20:03:46 <Zhyla> you may have to roll that in yourself
Nov 08 20:03:56 <encode> if i knew how to i would :S
Nov 08 20:04:19 <encode> i've done some compiling on normal linux boxes, but never for another architecture
Nov 08 20:06:19 <cheef-daniel> if you want to compile the packeges on your box (natively) then you can start here: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/NativelyCompileUnslungPackages
Nov 08 20:06:45 <cheef-daniel> thats for unslung, but it's similar for openslug
Nov 08 20:07:36 <Zhyla> yeah.  I tried adding a package the other day, was mystified, but patching an existing package shouldn't be too bad.  It's good foryou.
Nov 08 20:08:01 <encode> should i upgrade to 2.8-beta before i begin?
Nov 08 20:08:02 <cheef-daniel> and thats for openslug: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/OpenSlugNativeCompileEnvironment
Nov 08 20:08:19 <Zhyla> man both upslug and upslug2 can't find my slug, I must be doing something wrong
Nov 08 20:08:27 <Zhyla> I've got it in upgrade mode, flashing red and green
Nov 08 20:08:57 <cheef-daniel> can you telnet on it?
Nov 08 20:08:58 <encode> Zhyla: is it connected directly?
Nov 08 20:09:06 <encode> check ethernet link
Nov 08 20:09:20 <encode> is it using dhcp?
Nov 08 20:09:31 <cheef-daniel> or ping?
Nov 08 20:09:33 <Zhyla> it's connected to a hub
Nov 08 20:09:40 <Zhyla> broadcast ping doesn't find it
Nov 08 20:09:43 <encode> and theres link lights on the hub?
Nov 08 20:09:54 <Zhyla> my DHCP server should be assigning it an address but it never gets a request
Nov 08 20:10:01 <Zhyla> lights are flashing on the hub
Nov 08 20:10:07 <encode> if you have a crossover cable, try connecting it directly to your pc perhaps
Nov 08 20:10:16 <Zhyla> and get this... if I run upslug2 it blinks the ethernet light on the slug
Nov 08 20:10:24 <cheef-daniel> on first use it has a static ip, i hink
Nov 08 20:10:57 <cheef-daniel> is your pc on the same subnet than the slug?
Nov 08 20:10:57 <Zhyla> hmmm, crossover cable... yes I do!
Nov 08 20:11:08 <Zhyla> cheef-daniel:  what subnet is my slug on?
Nov 08 20:11:26 <cheef-daniel> 192.168.1.77 255.255.255.0
Nov 08 20:11:38 <Zhyla> yeah everything I have is on 192.168.1.*
Nov 08 20:12:23 <Zhyla> pinging 192.168.1.77 also blinks the eth light
Nov 08 20:13:47 <Zhyla> crossover worked
Nov 08 20:15:21 <cheef-daniel> I think there is something wrong with pam
Nov 08 20:16:07 <cheef-daniel> I cant get cups to work because I am getting this error: "IsAuthorized: pam_authenticate() returned 7 (Authentication failure)!"
Nov 08 20:17:21 <Zhyla> how long does the flashing take?
Nov 08 20:17:34 <cheef-daniel> ~5  minutes
Nov 08 20:17:39 <Zhyla> ah nevermind, it's going now... sweet
Nov 08 20:18:47 <cheef-daniel> sound, palm as lcd, and cd-storage working but the easy cups not ;-(
Nov 08 20:19:00 <Zhyla> palm as lcd?
Nov 08 20:19:03 <cheef-daniel> yes
Nov 08 20:19:24 <Zhyla> how do you do that?  like with an old palm pilot you mean?
Nov 08 20:19:25 <encode> anyone know where i can find the .bb files for various packages?
Nov 08 20:19:27 <cheef-daniel> I have a telnet-app on the palm and can remote controll my palm pilot
Nov 08 20:19:31 <encode> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/OpenSlugNativeCompileEnvironment <-- mentioned there
Nov 08 20:19:40 <Zhyla> encode:  you may have to create them
Nov 08 20:19:47 <Zhyla> cheef-daniel:  ah, cool
Nov 08 20:19:56 <cheef-daniel> with another programm I can use it like an normal lcd-display
Nov 08 20:19:57 <encode> argh, i've got no idea how to do that
Nov 08 20:20:13 <Zhyla> encode:  but think how studly you'll be once you learn how :)
Nov 08 20:20:17 <cheef-daniel> is easy to install
Nov 08 20:20:46 <cheef-daniel> but you need a serial2usb converter for the palm pilot terminal
Nov 08 20:22:12 <cheef-daniel> encode: sorry cant help you with the .bb files
Nov 08 20:22:41 <encode> s'ok
Nov 08 20:23:53 <Zhyla> encode:  maybe you should work on getting smaller files :)
Nov 08 20:25:57 <Zhyla> hahahaha I think the ethernet cable that came with it is bad, no wonder I couldn't see it before
Nov 08 20:36:12 <encode> Zhyla: smaller files work fine - great in fact
Nov 08 20:36:20 <encode> just annoying i cant use larger files
Nov 08 20:36:33 <Zhyla> yeah especially if you want to server ripped DVD's etc
Nov 08 20:36:52 <encode> yeah
Nov 08 20:36:52 <Zhyla> can you use NFS instead or are you serving a windows network?
Nov 08 20:37:01 <encode> like, i have 600GB of disk attached to my slug
Nov 08 20:37:12 <encode> i need to find a way of getting samba to work with large files
Nov 08 20:37:49 <Zhyla> are you using samba 3?
Nov 08 20:45:24 <encode> yes
Nov 08 20:45:45 <encode> i've tried various samba 3 packages in the repository
Nov 08 20:46:15 <encode> the people in #samba tell me
Nov 08 20:46:16 <encode> < wanon> samba is lfs complient out of the box on all modern systems.
Nov 08 20:46:18 <Zhyla> it would probably be wise to get the latest samba3 working on a regular box and then if that solves your problem then you can tackle getting that onto a slug
Nov 08 20:46:26 <encode> yeah
Nov 08 20:46:50 <encode> i dont have any other linux boxen with enough storage to have a >4GB file
Nov 08 20:47:12 <encode> i'll have to experiment i think
Nov 08 20:47:13 <Zhyla> can't pull a usb drive off your slug?
Nov 08 20:47:19 <encode> yeah, i'll try that
Nov 08 20:48:13 <Zhyla> man I gotta make a trip to Fry's tomorrow... need a flash stick and some IDE adapters that don't suck
Nov 09 01:39:41 <encode> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/OpenSlugNativeCompileEnvironment <-- what is step 6 supposed to do? it doesnt work for me
Nov 09 01:40:17 <encode> $ cd openslug && source setup-env
Nov 09 01:40:18 <encode> bash: ./conf/topdir.conf: No such file or directory
Nov 09 01:40:18 <encode> environment: TOPDIR not defined
Nov 09 01:43:39 <widrone> encode: Maybe there is some makefile that need some path set to where you put it all? 
Nov 09 01:44:15 <widrone> encode: I cant really help you directly, not tried to recompile kernel. 
Nov 09 01:44:30 <encode> well step 5 involves running "make setup"
Nov 09 01:44:39 <encode> which seems to run ok, doesnt produce any erros
Nov 09 01:44:42 <encode> errors*
Nov 09 01:45:20 <widrone> Run bash... something busybox can handle this I persume, you did that too? 
Nov 09 01:45:29 <encode> yes
Nov 09 01:45:40 <encode> though im not sure why that would be necessary
Nov 09 01:46:30 <widrone> encode: Im guessing its in there for some code-arcane reason, I seem to remember there being a MaterMakefile wiki page asw. 
Nov 09 01:46:57 <encode> $ grep -i topdir.conf *
Nov 09 01:47:04 <encode> produces no output
Nov 09 01:47:16 <encode> so there's nothing in the Makefile about topdir
Nov 09 01:49:11 <dhex> question about creating a native build environment on the slug:
Nov 09 01:49:16 <dhex> root@slug-1:/src/test# gcc helloword.c
Nov 09 01:49:16 <dhex> gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `as': No such file or directory
Nov 09 01:49:37 <dhex> what package is the assembler executable in?
Nov 09 01:53:23 <encode> dhex: how did you set up the native build environment? did you follow the instructions at http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/OpenSlugNativeCompileEnvironment ?
Nov 09 01:54:00 <widrone> dhex: Maybe http://ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org/ can help, thats my best bet for now really. 
Nov 09 01:56:50 <dhex> encode: I'm trying to do it from packages, eg. gcc, cpp, gcc-symlinks, gawk, sed, etc.  I assume that's what they're there for.
Nov 09 01:57:36 <encode> did you do "ipkg install openslug-native"?
Nov 09 01:57:48 <dhex> widrone: thanks I'll check it out.
Nov 09 01:59:05 <dhex> encode: nope.  That may be my problem.
Nov 09 02:01:58 <widrone> What you all building, kernel with more modules? 
Nov 09 02:02:16 <encode> i'm going to try building samba
Nov 09 02:02:30 <encode> since none of the available packages seem to support files > 4GB
Nov 09 02:02:34 <encode> which i need
Nov 09 02:03:51 <encode> i'm told NAiL in #openslug has successfully build samba with lfs, but he hasnt replied to my pm, and google doesnt turn up any results
Nov 09 02:04:42 <dhex> I'm trying to build the ruby, lighttpd, fast-cgi, rails stack
Nov 09 02:05:09 <widrone> I wonder how the debian package of samba is buildt in that effect, since thats what im runnin for samba now. 
Nov 09 02:05:27 <encode> can you access files > 4GB via samba?
Nov 09 02:05:34 <dhex> I think I'm out of my depth though...
Nov 09 02:06:09 <widrone> encode: Maybe I just need to dd me a 4gb file and try. 
Nov 09 02:06:25 <encode> or just cat some existing files together into a new 5GB file
Nov 09 02:06:53 <encode> and just have a look at the share in windows - you'll be able to see pretty much instantly - the filesize seems to wrap
Nov 09 02:06:58 <encode> ie 5GB files show up as 1GB
Nov 09 02:08:50 <widrone> encode: Im in a cellar, I dont have no windows. =) 
Nov 09 02:12:06 <dhex> In a world without fences and walls, who needs gates and windows?
Nov 09 02:13:10 <dhex> <cliche hooray!>
Nov 09 02:22:23 <widrone> Hm, its not really a good test. But i dd a large file localy on the slug, mounted the samba share on another i386 debian box and it looks ok to me. 
Nov 09 02:22:53 <widrone> But there is no win in the mix, and the same versioon of samba for debian servers and utils. So its not really a test I feel. 
Nov 09 02:23:05 <encode> ok
Nov 09 02:23:26 <encode> whats involved in me installign that version of samba on my slug?
Nov 09 02:25:36 <widrone> encode: Running debonaras on the slug instead of openslugging =) You get to keep openslug as a recovery os on flash thu. 
Nov 09 02:25:52 <encode> hmm, not sure i want to go that far just yet
Nov 09 02:26:10 <widrone> encode: Are you asking how to run debian on the slug, or am I getting ahead of myself here? 
Nov 09 02:26:33 <encode> well if you are running debian packages on a debian install, then yes, i was asking how to run debian
Nov 09 02:26:41 <encode> but dont worry about it
Nov 09 02:26:50 <encode> i'll keep trying to hack samba first
Nov 09 02:27:22 <widrone> encode: Cool, write something up on the wiki if you crack it. 
Nov 09 02:28:24 <encode> sure
Nov 09 02:30:49 <widrone> encode: Maybe even figure out who maintains the oe package and get them to include the fixes if they are global.
Nov 09 02:33:15 <encode> oe package?
Nov 09 02:33:41 <encode> im not that good at making stuff work - if other people cant figure it out, then i more than likely cant either
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