**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 12 03:00:21 2006
Jan 12 03:05:56 <pumpkin0> hello. Abouth thttpd. Anybody in here ever used POST succesfully ?
Jan 12 03:24:48 <pumpkin0> another question: how uses apache and how much RAM does it use ? Is it "fast" ? 
Jan 12 08:21:04 <Vincent07> hi everybody
Jan 12 08:22:01 <Vincent07> I'm currently try to install openvpn on my DS 101, but I've got an issue to install tun module, does anyone know about this problem
Jan 12 08:22:03 <Vincent07> ?
Jan 12 08:27:44 <Vincent07> no one is there ... ?
Jan 12 08:28:02 <Fuse314> sorry, no idea - maybe try the #DS101-linux room?
Jan 12 08:28:03 <EvilDevil> nope 
Jan 12 08:29:37 <vincent07> is there someone could help me on installing tun module ?
Jan 12 08:30:49 <pumpkin0_> what kind of problem do you have ? What's the error-msg
Jan 12 08:45:44 <vincent07> hi, sorry about the delay, my problem is that i could not get succes in this command : insmod tun
Jan 12 08:46:07 <vincent07> the error is "insmod: tun: no module by that name found"
Jan 12 08:46:57 <vincent07> I have installed package : kernel-module-tun_2.6.15-rc7-r0.1_nslu2.ipk
Jan 12 08:47:03 <EvilDevil> vincent07 go to /lib/modules
Jan 12 08:47:18 <EvilDevil> vincent07 then do a   find | grep tun
Jan 12 08:48:02 <vincent07> I've got tun.ko in /lib/modules/2.6.15/kernel/drivers/net
Jan 12 08:48:24 <EvilDevil> vincent07 maybe you should do a    depmod -a
Jan 12 08:48:46 <EvilDevil> vincent07 and the try again
Jan 12 08:49:21 <vincent07> done, and I've got many lines like this : depmod: cannot read ELF header from //opt/lib/modules/2.4.22-uc0/modules.dep
Jan 12 08:50:51 <vincent07> file modules.dep is empty
Jan 12 08:52:23 <EvilDevil> hmm... and just depmod ?
Jan 12 08:53:41 <EvilDevil> vincent07 what kernel is running on your machine? 2.4 or 2.6?
Jan 12 08:55:50 <vincent07> there is no line concerning module tun, any more idea ?
Jan 12 08:57:12 <vincent07> this is 2.4.22
Jan 12 08:57:58 <EvilDevil> vincent07 go to /opt/lib/modules and do a   find | grep tun
Jan 12 08:58:42 <vincent07> got nothing
Jan 12 08:59:37 <EvilDevil> ok. that's the problem. you propably installed the module for the wrong kernel version
Jan 12 08:59:55 <EvilDevil> what does  uname -a  say?
Jan 12 09:00:16 <vincent07> All right I understand, it says 2.4.22
Jan 12 09:00:48 <vincent07> I never update my kernel on my DS 101, is this possible ?
Jan 12 09:01:22 <EvilDevil> vincent07 i don't know much about the ds 101, i only got a nslu2
Jan 12 09:02:14 <vincent07> Ok, thanks helping me, could you tell me how you're doing on you nslu2, is there an "HOXTO" somewhere, I could read ?
Jan 12 09:03:31 <vincent07> sorry "HOWTO" and not "HOXTO"
Jan 12 09:05:10 <EvilDevil> vincent07 howto about what? upgrading kernel?
Jan 12 09:05:28 <pumpkin0_> search for the package: kernel-module-tun_2.4.22* and install that one.
Jan 12 09:06:37 <EvilDevil> vincent07 http://ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org/details.php?package=kernel-module-tun&official=&format=
Jan 12 09:07:42 <EvilDevil> pumpkin0_ but it's only available for unslung_oe... you could try it anyway 
Jan 12 09:10:23 <pumpkin0_> I think he has reflashed the ds101 somehow. And even the old unslung images with 2.4'er kernel support loadable modules. If he has not reflashed... all bets are off. It may even be another endian type,... anyway: if he's really off the modprobe/insmod will fail, end of stroy.
Jan 12 10:43:13 <MrPiMP> Have some problem with my FTP server @ NSLU... When I transfer I file I only get 800 kb/s AS MAX..
Jan 12 10:43:16 <MrPiMP> whats wrong?
Jan 12 10:45:18 <pumpkin0_> which FTP have you installed on which firmware-version with which addon-programms and how fast is the disc  ?
Jan 12 10:49:30 <MrPiMP> HDD: 300 7200rpm
Jan 12 10:49:43 <MrPiMP> Firmware Version: V2.3R29-uNSLUng-5.5-beta
Jan 12 10:49:58 <MrPiMP> FTP vsftpd
Jan 12 10:50:42 <pumpkin0_> How fast are transfers with windows-shares ?
Jan 12 10:51:22 <MrPiMP> dont know kan test it
Jan 12 10:51:47 <pumpkin0_> just create a normal share with the webinterface and copy ome files on it.
Jan 12 10:53:11 <pumpkin0_> 800 KB/s sound like 10MBit Ethernet. I get > 6 MB/s with ftp, windows-shares and NFS.
Jan 12 10:55:48 <MrPiMP> with windows I get 60 kb/s :S
Jan 12 10:57:01 <pumpkin0_> What kind of network are you using ???
Jan 12 10:57:18 <MrPiMP> what do you meen?
Jan 12 10:57:22 <MrPiMP> *-e
Jan 12 10:57:49 <MrPiMP> SMC EZ Card 10/100 Fast Ethernet :p ?
Jan 12 10:58:04 <MrPiMP> juse a Linksys router
Jan 12 10:59:05 <pumpkin0_> can you telnet in and do "cat /proc/memstat" ? 
Jan 12 11:00:41 <MrPiMP> # cat /proc/memstat
Jan 12 11:00:41 <MrPiMP> cat: /proc/memstat: No such file or directory
Jan 12 11:01:39 <pumpkin0_> cd /proc
Jan 12 11:01:40 <pumpkin0_> ls
Jan 12 11:01:58 <pumpkin0_> cat meminfo
Jan 12 11:03:44 <MrPiMP> wait a few secound.. reboot the NSLU now
Jan 12 11:13:01 * pumpkin0_ back in 1-2 hours
Jan 12 11:35:23 <MrPiMP> he.what is the command for deleting a disc (home/maggo) ?
Jan 12 12:04:08 <pumpkin0_> rm -rf /home/maggo ? But i would not recommand that.
Jan 12 12:13:54 <MrPiMP> what do you recommand then?
Jan 12 12:18:51 <pumpkin0_> why do you want to remove that one in the first place ? 
Jan 12 12:19:22 <pumpkin0_> it should not affect the nslu2 in any way. Except if it contains 299GB data ... 
Jan 12 12:23:32 <caplink811_log> drif, ping ?
Jan 12 12:41:24 <MrPiMP> beacuse I dont need it, and "maggo" have 5 GB
Jan 12 12:43:39 <pumpkin0_> then delete the files inside /home/maggo but leave the dir itself alone. If you remove you may not be able to ligin as maggo anymore.
Jan 12 12:45:12 <MrPiMP> any one how have Linksys router?
Jan 12 12:46:16 <pumpkin0_> WLAN-Router ? yepp.
Jan 12 12:46:40 <MrPiMP> PM please.
Jan 12 12:47:19 <pumpkin0_> i'm behind a proxy (miau) and cannot send PM's.
Jan 12 12:48:16 <MrPiMP> I have fixed my ftp server.. its work great local.. but from the internett people cant connect :(
Jan 12 12:48:20 <MrPiMP> know wants wrong?
Jan 12 12:50:23 <pumpkin0_> FTP does not work over routers. You can use http to work over routers. (FTP needs 2 TCP-links. one at the ftp-port, one at a random port. the router cannot guess the random port, so it fails to connect)
Jan 12 12:52:16 <MrPiMP> okey.. I use port 3358 when I connect Local.. What must I do sow rest of the world can connect :p ?
Jan 12 12:53:25 <pumpkin0_> You have to map the port 3358 to the internal IP of the slug. It's under the NAT-settings. (but that's only one of the 2 ports. That's not enough)
Jan 12 12:54:08 <MrPiMP> I have open the 3358 port @Port Range Forward.. forward to 192.168.1.77
Jan 12 12:54:14 <MrPiMP> is that correct?
Jan 12 12:54:24 <pumpkin0_> yepp.
Jan 12 12:54:52 <MrPiMP> good.. and what is the next I must do?
Jan 12 12:54:56 <MrPiMP> :p
Jan 12 12:55:14 <MrPiMP> Im pretty slow to understand what I must do, just ask drif ;p
Jan 12 12:55:21 <pumpkin0_> now try to find the other ports your ftp-server uses. Got no clue for vsftp... 
Jan 12 12:56:20 <MrPiMP> not even what I should look for?
Jan 12 12:56:26 <MrPiMP> name or something?
Jan 12 12:57:23 <MrPiMP> But when I have JUST the 3358 port open, people cant connect at all right? But if I open the secound ftp port (that I dont know) people can access the ftp server?
Jan 12 12:58:53 <pumpkin0_> http://vsftpd.beasts.org/vsftpd_conf.html => pasv_max_port and pasv_min_port. pick to ports (say 8000 - 10000) and also put it into the router.
Jan 12 13:02:20 <MrPiMP> But I should connect without the PASV.. IT would login and then disconnect because the PASV is not open
Jan 12 13:02:59 <MrPiMP> But it should
Jan 12 13:03:43 <pumpkin0_> If you add the portrange pasv_max_port - pasv_min_port to the vsftp-config and the router-NAT (and reboot it to be sure) it should work.
Jan 12 13:03:53 <MrPiMP> [R] Connecting to 80.111.73.143 -> IP=80.111.73.143 PORT=4459
Jan 12 13:03:53 <MrPiMP> [R] Connection failed (Connection timed out)
Jan 12 13:04:19 <pumpkin0_> didn't you use 3358 a moment ago ?
Jan 12 13:05:03 <pumpkin0_> And it will not for from within your network. The router only NAT's on connections form outside.
Jan 12 13:05:37 <MrPiMP> So you say that I must ? :p
Jan 12 13:06:37 <pumpkin0_> add a portrange for PASV ports. and you need a friend to test the server from outside.
Jan 12 13:06:58 <MrPiMP> # /opt/bin/nano -w /etc/services
Jan 12 13:06:58 <MrPiMP> Error opening terminal: unknown.
Jan 12 13:07:20 <MrPiMP> that was the place I change the port from 21 to 4459
Jan 12 13:07:22 <pumpkin0_> install dropbear or openssh. the telnet-server is shitty.
Jan 12 13:07:30 <MrPiMP> but I cant get in thre now:(
Jan 12 13:07:43 <MrPiMP> just fluffy;p
Jan 12 13:08:55 <pumpkin0_> anyway: why are you editing /etc/services. You need to change the vsftp-config-file. should be /etc/vsftp.conf ... 
Jan 12 13:09:29 <caplink811_log> /opt/etc/vsftpd.conf
Jan 12 13:09:37 <pumpkin0_> thx
Jan 12 13:09:42 <caplink811_log> no problem
Jan 12 13:10:46 <MrPiMP> # /opt/etc/vsftpd.conf
Jan 12 13:10:46 <MrPiMP> /opt/etc/vsftpd.conf: Permission denied
Jan 12 13:10:47 <MrPiMP> wtf?
Jan 12 13:11:21 <pumpkin0_> "su"
Jan 12 13:11:22 <drif> MrPimp: what are you trying to do?
Jan 12 13:11:25 <caplink811_log> you couldn't execute a config file
Jan 12 13:11:27 <drif> execute conf file?
Jan 12 13:11:33 <MrPiMP> :p
Jan 12 13:11:42 <MrPiMP> im newbie at this ;p
Jan 12 13:11:48 <MrPiMP> Just want the FTP to work :$
Jan 12 13:11:55 <MrPiMP> drif help me like usal ;p
Jan 12 13:12:03 <MrPiMP> with the hole command ;
Jan 12 13:12:04 <MrPiMP> :D
Jan 12 13:12:05 <drif> pumpkin: he's editing services because it's not running standalone 
Jan 12 13:12:24 <caplink811_log> drif, i mixed mii-tool up with mii.diag (which i has as a binary), so , sorry
Jan 12 13:13:00 <drif> caplink: where could I get those .mk files (in general) - I have browsed groups a bit - haven't found that many
Jan 12 13:13:04 <caplink811_log> maybe a good idea to use ssh and scp, instead of ftp and telnet
Jan 12 13:13:06 <pumpkin0_> drif: argh. He wants to do ftp over a router. So he needs to limit the PASV-portrange.
Jan 12 13:13:46 <drif> pumpkin: I know, but he also wanted to change it's port
Jan 12 13:13:49 <caplink811_log> mii-diag is build by a member of the german forum, dunno if it is nearly the same as mii-tool
Jan 12 13:13:56 <drif> pumpkin: not use the default 21
Jan 12 13:16:04 <caplink811_log> drif,  the binary is at http://www.jrbnet.de/texte/mii-diag.zip
Jan 12 13:16:46 <drif> caplink: thanks, but where do you guys get the .mk files? I'd like to know for future :P
Jan 12 13:17:28 <caplink811_log> imho, the guy build it by hisself, and there is no .mk file
Jan 12 13:18:30 <drif> I mean in general - you people talk about build this build that - but I dont know where to get the necessary files - I have the devtools and those .mk files which came with it
Jan 12 13:21:09 <caplink811_log> drif,  if you want to build a new package, you should read http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/AddAPackageToUnslung (Part - Making a package using..) (assuming you use uNLSUng FW)
Jan 12 13:23:40 <caplink811_log> if you want build something for your own, make sure that are some tools on your slug available, autoconf, automake, ... and make also sure that, after installing unslung-devel package gcc and others are in your search path ( $PATH)
Jan 12 13:24:54 <drif> what limitations do I have using my linux machine and toolchain for compiling for unslung?
Jan 12 13:26:18 <drif> compared to building on slug
Jan 12 13:27:49 <caplink811_log> so, you want compile cross.. if you use the regular build system, the only limitation is, that some configure progs calls functions that can not run in a cross compile environment, in that case, you have to patch the configure script, or the configure.in file, to make sure, that the configure run is successful, that is the only case which occurs to me
Jan 12 13:28:38 <caplink811_log> the benefit is, that cross compile is much faster as compiling native
Jan 12 13:32:46 <drif> no shit ;)
Jan 12 13:33:25 <drif> I have build some tools cross - but the .mk collection I have is rather limited
Jan 12 13:33:34 <drif> built
Jan 12 13:34:59 <caplink811_log> in the last months, i normally use the easy way, which means, apt-get install package-name
Jan 12 13:39:54 <drif> maybe on debian yes :P
Jan 12 13:41:30 <caplink811_log> maybe it is time to switch over, imho debianslug the future trend
Jan 12 13:41:55 <caplink811_log> s/the/is the/g
Jan 12 13:45:04 <drif> caplink: and it now supports (I know I have old info on that subject) onboard lan?
Jan 12 13:45:28 <caplink811_log> deb be and deb le, both supports onboard lan
Jan 12 13:45:34 <drif> good
Jan 12 13:45:49 <drif> I might switch when I'll get another external hdd
Jan 12 13:46:01 <drif> atm my 2nd slug is on 1gig flash
Jan 12 13:46:37 <caplink811_log> running both with a 80gb disk, that is enough atm
Jan 12 13:47:28 <drif> bootloader some sort?
Jan 12 13:47:58 <caplink811_log> ?
Jan 12 13:48:12 <drif> to choose which to run
Jan 12 13:48:21 <drif> or you mean 2x80GB
Jan 12 13:48:36 <caplink811_log> oh, sorry, each slug owns its own disk
Jan 12 13:48:43 <drif> thought so :)
Jan 12 13:49:25 <drif> how's the ntfs support?
Jan 12 13:50:11 <caplink811_log> as usual in standard linux, read yes, write no (but haven't try that)
Jan 12 13:52:13 <caplink811_log> that is an advantage of uNSLUng-6.x 
Jan 12 13:52:24 <caplink811_log> i think
Jan 12 13:58:06 <drif> caplink: well, read is also very useful for me
Jan 12 13:58:55 <drif> caplink: how about package ufsd under 5.5b?
Jan 12 13:59:04 <caplink811_log> it works
Jan 12 13:59:05 <drif> how does it differ from 6.x
Jan 12 13:59:52 <drif> do they use same module?
Jan 12 14:00:11 <caplink811_log> it seems, that linksys had changed the mounting procedure in R63/A05 there is a page in the wiki, and imho, that will be in 6.x too
Jan 12 14:00:41 <caplink811_log> module is the same, cause the ufsd.ipkg is extracted from linksys r63
Jan 12 14:01:46 <drif> ok
Jan 12 14:02:02 <drif> there's isn't much feedback about that module, is there?
Jan 12 14:02:11 <drif> I've seen mostly warnings :P
Jan 12 14:02:35 <caplink811_log> neither in the ml list, and also not in the german forum
Jan 12 14:05:24 <caplink811_log> but just there, there are some people which are real happy about the possibility of r63 to handle ntfs, what i don't understand, this is a nas device, and so the kind of filesystem it use, doesn't make any difference
Jan 12 14:06:00 <drif> sigh, I wish I had chose german as my language when I had my chance :P so much techinal stuff and forums/people using that language :)
Jan 12 14:06:44 <caplink811_log> gna
Jan 12 14:07:14 <caplink811_log> international language is english, and will be chinese <duck and run> in the future
Jan 12 14:07:47 <drif> caplink: I've gathered quite a bit of hdds on my shelves containing various stuff - these days mostly dvb captures - and I've used NTFS on all of those - need a unit to quickly share'em to network when needed
Jan 12 14:08:04 <drif> among other tasks of course
Jan 12 14:08:07 <caplink811_log> that make sense
Jan 12 14:08:12 <drif> but's that a definite plus
Jan 12 14:09:03 <caplink811_log> drif,  http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/R63DiskBehaviour
Jan 12 14:09:42 <drif> caplink: true, but that doesn't change the current situation - so much info on dreambox/topfield/fillyoursubject here - mostly on german forums :) on few finnish
Jan 12 14:10:45 <caplink811_log> the solution is described here http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-linux/message/9718
Jan 12 14:10:49 <caplink811_log> in short
Jan 12 14:11:22 <caplink811_log> install the ufsd.ipk, insmod ufsd, and then mount the disk you want
Jan 12 14:11:50 <caplink811_log> mount -t ufsd -o rw,uid=501,gid=501, /dev/sdb1 /mnt/tmpmnt (in that case 1st part on 2nd disk)
Jan 12 14:16:29 <drif> bazz-: have you used /log features on that irssi build?
Jan 12 14:16:48 <bazz-> drif i'm using its autolog features yes
Jan 12 14:17:31 <bazz-> has anyone managed to run rtorrent? i compiled it manually (took about 12 hours) and it doesn't work normal
Jan 12 14:17:35 <drif> bazz-: but not manual date-basis?
Jan 12 14:17:50 <drif> as filename I mean
Jan 12 14:18:24 <drif> I logged for days :P and realised it had only created for that one date - and didn't change :-\ was pretty short log
Jan 12 14:18:27 <bazz-> no, is there a problem?
Jan 12 14:18:32 <bazz-> aha :)
Jan 12 14:18:44 <drif> seems to work only when using static name
Jan 12 14:18:47 <bazz-> try google, perhaps you misconfigured the log thing
Jan 12 14:18:53 <drif> or autolog
Jan 12 14:19:05 <bazz-> i just log everything
Jan 12 14:19:08 <drif> I checked from few irssi tutorials
Jan 12 14:20:00 <bazz-> just create tarballs at the end of the month or every three months or whenever you like
Jan 12 14:20:10 <bazz-> so they don't take up much space
Jan 12 14:27:03 <drif> not a prob atm :P need to get'em created first
Jan 12 14:27:14 <drif> in order to consume any space
Jan 12 14:27:29 <bazz-> :)
Jan 12 14:27:41 <bazz-> i don't think they'll take up much space anyways
Jan 12 14:28:40 <drif> well, that wasn't the point anyway ;)
Jan 12 14:31:14 <bazz-> so nobody out there who uses torrent on the slug?
Jan 12 14:32:48 <drif> I tried a few - but all of'em was incompatible with the tracker on my friends private tracker :-\ so I had to use bittorent-curses which seemed bit heavy :-\ couldn't have two sessions open wihout one crashing at some point
Jan 12 14:33:28 <bazz-> yep it's very heavy
Jan 12 14:33:39 <bazz-> i created a larger swapfile
Jan 12 14:33:43 <bazz-> swap partition that is
Jan 12 14:33:48 <drif> how much atm
Jan 12 14:34:12 <drif> is there difference using a file?
Jan 12 14:34:22 <bazz-> i don't know actually,
Jan 12 14:34:29 <bazz-> i think about 300-400MB
Jan 12 14:34:39 <bazz-> i did it with partition magic and stuff
Jan 12 14:35:00 <bazz-> had some troubles because hda2 became 4 etc. and it wouldn't work unslung
Jan 12 14:35:20 <bazz-> and i managed to get it the way it was (the numbering)
Jan 12 14:35:35 <bazz->  Swap:       385552        12200       373352
Jan 12 14:35:38 <drif> I think I'll try the file-method first
Jan 12 14:35:44 <bazz-> //SLUG/public/torrent# free
Jan 12 14:35:44 <bazz->               total         used         free       shared      buffers
Jan 12 14:35:44 <bazz->   Mem:        30520        29924          596            0          812
Jan 12 14:35:44 <bazz->  Swap:       385552        12200       373352
Jan 12 14:35:45 <bazz-> Total:       416072        42124       373948
Jan 12 14:36:05 <bazz-> i don't know if there's any difference, i presume not
Jan 12 14:36:12 <bazz-> (file/partitoin)
Jan 12 14:36:20 <drif> easier to set up afterwards? ;)
Jan 12 14:37:17 <bazz-> yeah probably :)
Jan 12 14:37:36 <bazz-> but i don't know if you can have 2 swaps, 1 file and 1 partition
Jan 12 14:37:48 <bazz-> probably possible
Jan 12 14:41:29 <drif> bazz-: why not?
Jan 12 14:41:33 <drif> just addswap
Jan 12 14:41:45 <drif> swapon I mean
Jan 12 14:41:46 <bazz-> well let me know if it works :)
Jan 12 14:55:49 <NSLU2-IRC> hello everybody
Jan 12 14:55:58 <caplink811_log> morning
Jan 12 14:57:13 <NSLU2-IRC> could anybody help me with a NSLU2-problem?
Jan 12 14:57:22 <caplink811_log> maybe
Jan 12 14:57:24 <bazz-> just ask man
Jan 12 14:58:19 <NSLU2-IRC> I noticed that my up-speed TO the NSLU2 is extremly slow... down-speed FROM the NSLU2 is ok... what could be the reason for that?
Jan 12 14:58:35 <bazz-> what is extremely slow 
Jan 12 14:58:45 <NSLU2-IRC> the transfer to the external USB-drive
Jan 12 14:58:49 <caplink811_log> and what kind of protocol you used?
Jan 12 14:59:00 <bazz-> 5k/s 1k/s ?
Jan 12 14:59:03 <drif> bazz: root@:/tmp/> cat /proc/swaps
Jan 12 14:59:03 <drif> Filename                        Type            Size    Used    Priority
Jan 12 14:59:03 <drif> /dev/sda3                       partition       56220   9872    -1
Jan 12 14:59:03 <drif> /tmp/swapfile                   file            249992  0       -2
Jan 12 14:59:19 <bazz-> nice
Jan 12 14:59:34 <caplink811_log> and 1st
Jan 12 14:59:37 <caplink811_log> ~nick
Jan 12 14:59:38 <capbot> People leaving their nickname as NSLU2-IRC will be ignored ...  otherwise we'll end up with 10 nslu2-irc users ... so please change it using /nick newnick
Jan 12 14:59:40 <NSLU2-IRC> about 500kb/s
Jan 12 14:59:50 <MJFox> sorry
Jan 12 14:59:53 <caplink811_log> no problem
Jan 12 15:00:10 <MJFox> download is about 4000kb/s
Jan 12 15:00:12 <bazz-> samba or nfs?
Jan 12 15:00:17 <MJFox> nfs
Jan 12 15:00:17 <caplink811_log> or ftp
Jan 12 15:00:34 <bazz-> well, i read something about nfs recently
Jan 12 15:00:38 <bazz-> try this page: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Profiles/Zhyla
Jan 12 15:00:48 <bazz-> you could play around with wsize
Jan 12 15:01:08 <caplink811_log> do you checked that behaviour with another protocol?
Jan 12 15:02:12 <MJFox> how do I change the wsize?
Jan 12 15:02:31 <MJFox> no, I'm using WinXP to connect to the NSLU
Jan 12 15:02:44 <bazz-> sure that you're using nfs?
Jan 12 15:03:12 <MJFox> if nfs is the default unslung-protocol then yes ;-)
Jan 12 15:03:47 <bazz-> default is smb
Jan 12 15:03:52 <caplink811_log> you copy files within the win explorer?
Jan 12 15:04:00 <MJFox> yes
Jan 12 15:04:07 <caplink811_log> then you use smb
Jan 12 15:04:11 <MJFox> ok
Jan 12 15:04:24 <caplink811_log> and the nslu is showing up in the netzwerk umgebung
Jan 12 15:04:37 <bazz-> (network neighborhood)
Jan 12 15:04:38 <MJFox> as far as I remember the transfer rate was ok a few days ago... it seems that I screwed something up :-/
Jan 12 15:04:41 <MJFox> yes
Jan 12 15:05:11 <caplink811_log> bazz-,  i know that, but i assume that a guy from austria use a germanized win
Jan 12 15:05:31 <MJFox> yes, indeed ;-)
Jan 12 15:05:33 <bazz-> didn't know he was from österreich
Jan 12 15:05:46 <MJFox> smb = samba?
Jan 12 15:05:50 <caplink811_log> yes
Jan 12 15:06:11 <MJFox> so, what can I do to improve the upload speed?
Jan 12 15:06:13 <caplink811_log> MJFox,  do you use a switch or a hub on your network?
Jan 12 15:06:41 <MJFox> yes, I'm using a switch
Jan 12 15:07:14 <MJFox> and also a hub, but I'm only using the hub as a second switch
Jan 12 15:07:28 <caplink811_log> that's ok, are there any devices in your environment, that use upnp, such as a router, and do turned off upnp in the webinterface of the nslu?
Jan 12 15:08:05 <MJFox> give me a second to check that
Jan 12 15:08:36 <caplink811_log> bazz-,  in belgium you use the character ö too?
Jan 12 15:09:31 <Mag|GoNe> drif the ISP fuckd up again
Jan 12 15:10:06 <bazz-> first letter of Österreich? irssi made it look like "ö"
Jan 12 15:10:15 <MJFox> upnp support is on, but I don't think I'm have any upnp decives im my network
Jan 12 15:10:24 <MJFox> shall I turn upnp support off then?
Jan 12 15:10:45 <bazz-> very rarely actually
Jan 12 15:11:39 <caplink811_log> MJFox,  yes, pls
Jan 12 15:11:53 <bazz-> what's the use of upnp actually?
Jan 12 15:12:14 <bazz-> (on the slug)
Jan 12 15:12:46 <MJFox> ok, it's off now... do I have to reboot the slug now?
Jan 12 15:13:21 <caplink811_log> imho, there are some possibilities for configuring some router (ports and so on) via upnp, e.g. a device or prog can tell the router via upnp, pls open that port for me
Jan 12 15:14:14 <caplink811_log> MJFox,  have you shell access on your nslu?
Jan 12 15:14:30 <MJFox> yes
Jan 12 15:15:10 <caplink811_log> try ps -ef|grep upnp if there isn't any output, then the process is killed, and there is no reason for a reboot
Jan 12 15:16:06 <MJFox> output is:   575 ttyp0   root       1036   D   grep upnp
Jan 12 15:16:12 <caplink811_log> it is dead
Jan 12 15:17:04 <caplink811_log> btw, time for a little advertisement, MJFox do you know the german nslu forum at www.nslu2-info.de ?
Jan 12 15:17:35 <MJFox> yeah, I know it, I read some threads there :-)
Jan 12 15:17:41 <caplink811_log> k
Jan 12 15:18:03 <MJFox> my upload speed is the same like before :-/
Jan 12 15:18:05 <caplink811_log> back on topic
Jan 12 15:19:11 <caplink811_log> what size have the files you used? small or big?
Jan 12 15:19:30 <MJFox> I played around with ftpd-topfield, maybe I screwed something doing so?
Jan 12 15:19:46 <MJFox> it's a big file, it has about 270MB
Jan 12 15:19:55 <caplink811_log> that is ok for testing
Jan 12 15:20:25 <MJFox> WinXP SP2 ;-)
Jan 12 15:20:43 <caplink811_log> any active fire walls, or vir scanners?
Jan 12 15:21:25 <MJFox> I disabled my fire wall and my vir scanner - no change
Jan 12 15:21:32 <caplink811_log> k
Jan 12 15:21:54 <caplink811_log> what is your skill level on linux systems?
Jan 12 15:22:05 <MJFox> poor!
Jan 12 15:22:16 <MJFox> I only know the basics
Jan 12 15:23:31 <MJFox> isn't it strange that I can download about 4000kb/s but can only upload about 500kb/s? shouldn't be the upload-speed and download-speed equal?
Jan 12 15:23:42 <caplink811_log> well, ok, can you connect the nslu and your win box directly with a cross over cable, so we can eleminate any problems in your environment
Jan 12 15:24:50 <MJFox> ok, I will connect directly with a cross over cable... just need to switch to my notebook
Jan 12 15:25:19 <MJFox> I will be back in a few minutes
Jan 12 15:25:51 <MJFox> see you!
Jan 12 15:33:53 <MJFox> back again
Jan 12 15:34:49 <MJFox> when connected directly to the NSLU my upload speed is at 4.000kb/s (just as my download speed)... so the router is the culprit!
Jan 12 15:36:13 <caplink811_log> aja
Jan 12 15:37:07 <caplink811_log> but that is faster then mine samba, just try 217mb from win to slug in 125 sec, and the same file back in 110 sec
Jan 12 15:39:59 <MJFox> upload speed jumps from ~4300kb/s to ~4600kb/s
Jan 12 15:40:17 <MJFox> that's ok then
Jan 12 15:41:12 <caplink811_log> that is the same as i use ftp, so it is nearly the highest rate that you can expect
Jan 12 15:41:23 <MJFox> ok, fine
Jan 12 15:41:47 <MJFox> so, what setting on the router could cause that slowdown in upload?
Jan 12 15:42:00 <caplink811_log> dunno, is it a wrt54g?
Jan 12 15:42:38 <caplink811_log> but whatever, you operate on the lan/switch side, not the wan side
Jan 12 15:43:11 <caplink811_log> or is your nslu exposed in a dmz or something equal?
Jan 12 15:43:41 <MJFox> it's a netgear 614 (or something like that)
Jan 12 15:43:54 <MJFox> yeah, I'm not on the wan side
Jan 12 15:44:06 <MJFox> what is a dmz?
Jan 12 15:45:11 <caplink811_log> 1st, imho netgear use upnp too, you should check this, and disable it on the router, and 2nd, one of my slugs is on the wan side too, and my router slow down the transfer to the wan side (imho the firewall on it)
Jan 12 15:46:51 <caplink811_log> dmz = demilitarised zone, a place between two routers, one to the internet, the other to your lan
Jan 12 15:47:32 <MJFox> upnp is disabled on the router... in fact I disabled everything on the router, no dhcp, no port forwarding etc.
Jan 12 15:48:12 <caplink811_log> hm
Jan 12 15:49:47 <caplink811_log> do you have a switch by hand, so you can connect your router to the switch and all other devices to the switch?
Jan 12 15:54:02 <MJFox> yes, I have
Jan 12 15:54:07 <MJFox> I will do that
Jan 12 15:54:44 <MJFox> I will lose my connection doing so, so I have to leave the chat and will return in a few minutes
Jan 12 15:54:52 <MJFox> see you!
Jan 12 16:03:24 <cheef-daniel> 
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Jan 12 16:04:23 <MJFox> back again
Jan 12 16:04:40 <MJFox> ok, it's either my router or the cables from/to the router
Jan 12 16:05:10 <caplink811_log> so with a seperate swithc it works better?
Jan 12 16:05:35 <MJFox> it works only better when there's only a switch between the slug and the pc
Jan 12 16:06:03 <MJFox> as soon as the router is between the speed drops down
Jan 12 16:06:54 <MJFox> I will by a switch and but it right after the router so every connection in my house is connected to the switch instead of to the router
Jan 12 16:06:59 <MJFox> by = buy
Jan 12 16:07:07 <MJFox> but = put
Jan 12 16:07:38 <MJFox> man, my english gets bad, I guess I have to go to bed ;-)
Jan 12 16:07:45 <caplink811_log> yeah, that is what i recommend
Jan 12 16:08:13 <caplink811_log> means the switch, not your english
Jan 12 16:08:29 <MJFox> hehe... I understand ;-)
Jan 12 16:08:42 <MJFox> ok, thank's a lot for your support
Jan 12 16:08:59 <caplink811_log> so we're in the same tz, that is a good idea, have to work tomorrow, aeh today, gnite
Jan 12 16:09:51 <MJFox> thanks again! good night!
Jan 12 16:09:56 <caplink811_log> no problem
Jan 12 17:01:20 <Mika__> hoe kan ik met grep 2 woorden uit een file halen dus cat /bla.txt |grep woord1 en woord2
Jan 12 17:02:20 <Mika__> in man grep kan ik het niet vinden
Jan 12 17:03:43 <Mika__> en met cat /bla.txt |grep woord1 >> bla2.txt        en dan  cat /bla.txt |grep woord2 >> bla2.txt   cat /bla2.txt dan is de volgorde er uit
Jan 12 17:10:21 <Mika__> sorry wrong room :S
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