**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Feb 15 10:59:56 2006
Feb 15 11:00:18 <pere_> ehhh... maybe the package is called "which"....:-) Sorry about that
Feb 15 11:00:19 <Eiffel_> take a look in /usr/bin
Feb 15 11:00:35 <Eiffel_> there shoul be a sort
Feb 15 11:00:53 <pere_> ahhh... it runs /opt/bin/sort
Feb 15 11:01:22 <Eiffel_> there are two versions of sort one in busybox
Feb 15 11:01:29 <Eiffel_> and the other in slingbox
Feb 15 11:01:45 <Eiffel_> the one in slingbox should work
Feb 15 11:01:48 <pere_> /usr/bin/sort --version
Feb 15 11:02:03 <pere_> unrecognized option `--version'
Feb 15 11:02:27 <Eiffel_> how looks your path variable ?
Feb 15 11:02:57 <pere_> /opt/sbin:/opt/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
Feb 15 11:03:58 <Eiffel_> hm wow there are three sort lol
Feb 15 11:04:08 <pere_> ok...:-)
Feb 15 11:14:58 <pere_> hmmm... copying the file in /opt/bin to /usr/bin seems to help. The /usr/bin dir was hardcoded in the updatedb script
Feb 15 11:15:15 <pere_> Im however getting this error instead
Feb 15 11:15:23 <pere_> /usr/bin/find: error in /etc/mtab: swap: No such file or directory
Feb 15 11:17:44 <pere_> ahhh... seems like the script checks what volumes to index, but does not find swap
Feb 15 11:18:15 <pere_> How is the swap-disk on the linksys?
Feb 15 11:18:34 <pere_> I have an default mtab file saying:
Feb 15 11:18:41 <pere_> /dev/sda3   swap  swap  defaults 0  0
Feb 15 11:18:47 <pere_> Is this correct?
Feb 15 11:24:19 <pere_> I see on my other debian boxes it is set to /dev/sda3 none swap defaults 0 0
Feb 15 11:24:52 <pere_> where "none" is mount point instead of "swap"
Feb 15 11:30:02 <PetterG> Hello
Feb 15 11:30:06 <PetterG> Anyone herE?
Feb 15 11:30:32 <pere_> not very many active ones
Feb 15 11:30:38 <pere_> :)
Feb 15 11:35:01 <PetterG> How can I install the defult firmware to my NSLU?
Feb 15 11:57:48 <pere_> Eiffel_: Still there?
Feb 15 12:54:53 <Tenkawa> Any of you using OpenDebianSlug?
Feb 15 14:06:26 <zahlala> hello
Feb 15 14:07:06 <zahlala> I am trying to get unslung installed on an USB stick. Anyone here having done that (successfully) before?
Feb 15 15:45:50 <zahlala> works now after re-flash and re-install
Feb 15 15:45:52 <zahlala> \part
Feb 15 15:45:58 <zahlala> #part
Feb 15 20:18:08 <wallycharlo> evening all .... im looking to add bluetooth capability to my network .... primarily to be able to use a wireless Bluetooth headset with skype ... my idea is to plug a Bluetooth USB adaptor into the slug, which is in turn connected my router via ethernet, and my laptop (where i am running skype) is connecting via wlan to the router ... will this work or would there be too much delay in the complete loop for voice ?  
Feb 15 20:18:56 <wallycharlo> its just a tidier solution than having the dongle hanging out of my labtop
Feb 15 20:20:33 <EvilDevil> i'm not sure if there is a possibility to route bluetooth data over tcp/ip
Feb 15 20:20:50 <EvilDevil> so the bluetooth headset can be used over the network
Feb 15 20:22:17 <wallycharlo> aha ... 
Feb 15 20:22:54 <wallycharlo> so it would require a new package to be written ? or is it just not possible ? 
Feb 15 20:23:32 <EvilDevil> google for something like bluetooth stack over ethernet
Feb 15 20:23:48 <wallycharlo> k. thanks buddy 
Feb 15 20:24:09 <EvilDevil> if you can't find anything, i suppose it's impossible
Feb 15 20:24:19 <EvilDevil> unless you write that protocol
Feb 15 21:34:36 * ByronT is away: auto-away after 180m idle
Feb 15 22:33:43 <zahl> hi, has anyone gotten esd (esound daemon) work on unslung?
Feb 15 23:16:28 <geojeff> i have an unslung slug that boots fine to green lights, but i can't recall (since about last aug) how to do network setup to at least ping it or see it via a patch cable. i had it on a lan and may have reset ip. suggestions for basics or docs using a patch cable?
Feb 15 23:17:47 <pumpkin0> geojeff: do you have a linux-box on that network ?
Feb 15 23:18:49 <geojeff> i don't have the network anymore. just this ubuntu lappy and a patch cable i can use
Feb 15 23:20:08 <pumpkin0> should work fine. does the ethernet-LED become green after plugging in the patch-cable into the laptop and the slug ?
Feb 15 23:20:57 <geojeff> no, it didn't
Feb 15 23:21:11 * caplink811_log thinking about crossover cables
Feb 15 23:21:23 * pumpkin0 too.
Feb 15 23:21:41 * caplink811_log thinking about a hub/switch in that situation too
Feb 15 23:21:48 <zahl> .
Feb 15 23:21:49 <pumpkin0> are you any good at soldering ? 
Feb 15 23:22:13 <geojeff> this cable is labled crossover, but i guess that is same as patch?
Feb 15 23:22:36 <pumpkin0> Wait a second... and the laptops-LAN is working ?
Feb 15 23:23:36 <geojeff> hehe, this laptop is connected in my school office. i unhooked and plugged in patch cable to try. maybe that won't work?
Feb 15 23:24:15 <caplink811_log> if you put both plugs side by side, are the colours of the threads identical?
Feb 15 23:25:33 <caplink811_log> if yes, then it couldn't work
Feb 15 23:25:56 <geojeff> no they are different. this is a geek squad crossover cable from best buy
Feb 15 23:26:34 <pumpkin0> geojeff: your slug and laptop are on and fully booted ?
Feb 15 23:26:52 <caplink811_log> then it should work, basically, is your laptop in the 192.168.1.x segment (192.168.1.77 is the nslu adress by default)
Feb 15 23:27:35 <geojeff> i guess i'll need to reboot laptop standalong to try, as it has dhcp conn to school network now i guess
Feb 15 23:27:48 <geojeff> s/standalong/standalone/g
Feb 15 23:27:49 <capbot> geojeff meant: i guess i'll need to reboot laptop standalone to try, as it has dhcp conn to school network now i guess
Feb 15 23:28:01 <geojeff> hehe
Feb 15 23:28:13 <pumpkin0> even with a wrong IP and dhcp running/searching the LED must beomce green.
Feb 15 23:28:19 <caplink811_log> nice feature, eh ;)
Feb 15 23:28:39 <geojeff> yeah, that's what happens when you go away for a while :)
Feb 15 23:30:23 <pumpkin0> what does "ifconfig" say on the laptop ?
Feb 15 23:42:26 <geojeff_> tried rebooting ubuntu laptop with patch cable connected. no ethernet light. also didn't light up when i then rebooted slug.
Feb 15 23:43:04 <geojeff_> probably have to do something on ubuntu settings
Feb 15 23:43:40 <pumpkin0> run ifconfig to see if the ethernet-module is loaded.
Feb 15 23:45:17 <geojeff_> gotta reboot it again. but at least i am on other machine in chat now
Feb 15 23:50:41 <geojeff_> ifconfig gives eth0 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST... and also lo stats
Feb 15 23:51:25 <pumpkin0> OK, so the laptop-part is working. try this: "ping -b 255.255.255.255"
Feb 15 23:51:55 <geojeff_> network is unreachable
Feb 15 23:52:31 <pumpkin0> hmm... "ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.13" and again the ping-line
Feb 15 23:52:41 <caplink811_log> in /etc/network/interfaces there is a   line similar to this
Feb 15 23:52:44 <caplink811_log> # The primary network interface
Feb 15 23:52:44 <caplink811_log> iface eth0 inet static
Feb 15 23:54:15 <geojeff_> still said unreachable after the set to 1.13
Feb 15 23:55:15 <geojeff_> i can ping 1.13, but that is pinging self?
Feb 15 23:56:21 <pumpkin0> OK, try "ping -b 192.255.255.255" Somehow your ping does not consider 255.255.255.255 to be a broadcast...
Feb 15 23:57:03 <geojeff_> 192.255.255.255 unreachable also
Feb 15 23:57:21 <pumpkin0> is mii-tool installed ?
Feb 15 23:57:40 <geojeff_> yeah
Feb 15 23:58:10 <caplink811_log> ping 192.255.255.255 won't work on ubuntu
Feb 15 23:58:28 <caplink811_log> s/ping/ping -b/
Feb 15 23:58:32 <capbot> caplink811_log meant: ping -b 192.255.255.255 won't work on ubuntu
Feb 15 23:58:35 <geojeff_> mii-tool says "eth0:no link"
Feb 15 23:58:59 <pumpkin0> geojeff_: OK, so the cable or the slug is dead.
Feb 15 23:59:26 <pumpkin0> caplink811_log: didn't know that. Why did they disable "over" broadcasting ?
Feb 15 23:59:33 <geojeff_> ok, i have another slug. but the one i have been trying seems to boot fine
Feb 16 00:00:02 <caplink811_log> dunno, have up ubuntu and try that command, right now
Feb 16 00:01:06 <caplink811_log> geojeff_,  for sure, you can try to catch the redboot promt, and then try to reset the sysconf area, to bring the slug to the default ipp adress
Feb 16 00:01:14 <pumpkin0> on debian: ram@soak:~$ ping -b 255.255.255.255    WARNING: pinging broadcast address     PING 255.255.255.255 (255.255.255.255) 56(84) bytes of data.     and all IP's on my network.
Feb 16 00:01:35 <caplink811_log> pumpkin0,  yes, that work on ubuntu too
Feb 16 00:03:42 <geojeff_> other slug does same thing, so maybe bad cable. 
Feb 16 00:04:06 <caplink811_log> grmbbl
Feb 16 00:05:32 <geojeff_> thanks for help. i'll try again tomorrow.
Feb 16 00:05:59 <caplink811_log> geojeff_,  you're sure, that your laptopp is on a static configuration?
Feb 16 00:06:17 <geojeff_> caplink811_log, i dunno what that means
Feb 16 00:06:34 * caplink811_log is heading to bed, have a fight with a w2k3 sbs tomorrow
Feb 16 00:06:39 <geojeff_> so i guess no, i'm not sure :)
Feb 16 00:06:51 <geojeff_> thanks
Feb 16 00:07:26 <caplink811_log> geojeff_,  if you cat /etc/network/interfaces, there should be a line like that
Feb 16 00:07:28 <caplink811_log> eth0      Protokoll:Ethernet  Hardware Adresse 00:15:F2:3F:55:72
Feb 16 00:07:28 <caplink811_log>           inet Adresse:192.168.10.11  Bcast:192.168.10.255  Maske:255.255.255.0
Feb 16 00:07:28 <caplink811_log>   
Feb 16 00:07:58 <caplink811_log> sorry, if you enter ifconfig i menat
Feb 16 00:08:14 <caplink811_log> s/menat/meant/
Feb 16 00:08:14 <capbot> caplink811_log meant: sorry, if you enter ifconfig i meant
Feb 16 00:09:32 <geojeff_> oh, i get it, not dhcp.
Feb 16 00:10:36 <geojeff_> cat /etc/network/interfaces shows iface eth0 inet dhcp
Feb 16 00:10:52 <caplink811_log> as i said above, you should have something like this in /etc/network/interfaces
Feb 16 00:11:06 <caplink811_log> iface eth0 inet static
Feb 16 00:11:31 <geojeff_> oh, sorry, didn't understand that
Feb 16 00:12:18 <geojeff_> static now
Feb 16 00:13:13 <caplink811_log> that is my entry http://pastebin.com/556893
Feb 16 00:13:55 <caplink811_log> in /etc/network/interfaces
Feb 16 00:14:07 <geojeff_> ok, gotcha
Feb 16 00:14:16 <caplink811_log> my machine is 192.168.10.11
Feb 16 00:14:41 <caplink811_log> in that case
Feb 16 00:14:58 <geojeff_> i think i had my slugs on something like 192.168.1.5 and 6 when they were last used
Feb 16 00:20:15 <caplink811_log> so,if you config your laptop to the static 192.168.1.x adress the ping -b 255.255.255.255. should worrk
Feb 16 00:20:47 * caplink811_log is realy going to bed, i'll read the logs tomorrow
Feb 16 00:21:01 <caplink811_log> gnite :)
Feb 16 00:21:10 <geojeff_> night
Feb 16 00:42:05 <andrew_redfern> Hi everyone, does anyone know how to set a static ip on the slug?  I've tried a few things but none seem to work
Feb 16 00:49:36 <andrew_redfern> ok so doing a little more digging I found /etc/network/interfaces
Feb 16 00:50:00 <andrew_redfern> one of the lines read iface eth0 inet dhcp
Feb 16 00:50:22 <andrew_redfern> if I change this to the address I want will it work?
Feb 16 00:55:39 <jaxson> The line "iface eth0 inet dhcp" set it to use DHCP to dynamic set up network
Feb 16 00:56:22 <jaxson> You need to add some lines after that line:
Feb 16 00:56:48 <jaxson> I have these lines:
Feb 16 00:57:02 <jaxson> iface eth0 inet dhcp
Feb 16 00:57:09 <jaxson>         pre-up modprobe ixp425_eth
Feb 16 00:57:16 <jaxson>         pre-up modprobe ixp400
Feb 16 00:57:24 <jaxson>         pre-up ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00:13:10:D8:D5:07
Feb 16 00:58:09 <jaxson> You should change 00:13:... to your NSLU2s MAC address (should be printer under the NSLU2)
Feb 16 00:58:59 <jaxson> If you vant to have a static address if DHCP fails, it is easy, only add these lines after
Feb 16 00:59:24 <jaxson> "iface ..." and before  first "pre-up"
Feb 16 01:00:38 <jaxson>   address 192.168.1.77
Feb 16 01:00:44 <jaxson>  netmask 255.255.255.0
Feb 16 01:01:06 <jaxson> Those lines should be all that is needed.
Feb 16 01:01:48 <jaxson> If you dont use DHCP at all, Just change "dhcp" in the "iface eth0 inet dhcp" to "static"
Feb 16 01:02:01 <jaxson> Leave the other things as described.
Feb 16 01:02:23 <jaxson> This should work. It did for mee ;)
Feb 16 01:03:29 <jaxson> andrew_redfern: Good night. Don't forget to look at http://www.venganza.org/index.htm and have a laugh!
Feb 16 01:09:14 <andrew_redfern> thanks jaxson
Feb 16 01:09:51 <andrew_redfern> so if I want static and DHCP if static fails then I can just switch the lines around?
Feb 16 01:11:14 <jaxson> Nope.
Feb 16 01:11:31 <jaxson> It only works the other way around.
Feb 16 01:11:46 <jaxson> It sets static first.
Feb 16 01:12:00 <jaxson> And then start DHCP-klient (if installed)
Feb 16 01:12:52 <jaxson> And if DHCP-client works, it set up the network.
Feb 16 01:13:32 <andrew_redfern> hmmm so if I want static there is no fall back?
Feb 16 01:15:01 <jaxson> Fallback from static? Why?
Feb 16 01:15:32 <andrew_redfern> yeah I've read that site before..I've got a freind that's a grad-student in MCB in Kansas
Feb 16 01:17:00 <jaxson> Åh, the site.  It is realy fun site. Pity it's needed...
Feb 16 01:17:12 <andrew_redfern> just incase it gets plugged into a router that is on a differnt sub net
Feb 16 01:17:58 <jaxson> Then you should use dhcp and fallback to static if dhcp fails.
Feb 16 01:18:22 <jaxson> So if no dhcp on local net, You will use static adress.
Feb 16 01:18:43 <andrew_redfern> the problem is that if it reboots it gets a new ip
Feb 16 01:19:01 <andrew_redfern> and if you are forwarding to it then you can loose the link
Feb 16 01:19:46 <andrew_redfern> so I guess I should just set it up static and then turn back on dhcp before I move it
Feb 16 01:20:05 <jaxson> Have you controll over the DHCP-server?
Feb 16 01:20:26 <andrew_redfern> not really
Feb 16 01:21:32 <jaxson> Not realy?
Feb 16 01:22:09 <jaxson> You can get same address from DHCP, that is a static address.
Feb 16 01:22:20 <jaxson> But dynamicly ;)
Feb 16 01:23:06 <jaxson> But, you know your network,,, So static address might be the solution for you NSLU2.
Feb 16 01:31:21 <jaxson> Godnight all.
Feb 16 01:31:32 <PeterSwede> I have a debian-slug question: What IP settings are used for the bootstrap image? Doesn't seem to use DHCP, nor 192.168.0.x? Have downloaded and compiled on a i386 deb
Feb 16 01:41:18 <philips> PeterSwede: try nmaping your network and checking your cable
Feb 16 01:41:24 <philips> nmap -sP
Feb 16 01:43:34 <PeterSwede> Sure about the cable, no problem with redboot etc, have dhcp in a fc box, nothing, pinged -b 192.168.0.255 and -b 192.168.1.255 with no result
Feb 16 01:44:14 <PeterSwede> I don't have access to the slug right now, will try in the morning, thanks.
Feb 16 01:45:11 <philips> cool
Feb 16 01:45:27 <PeterSwede> I don't have access to the slug right now, will try in the morning, thanks.
Feb 16 01:45:47 <philips> OMG, glitch in the Matrix!
Feb 16 01:45:49 <philips> RUN
Feb 16 01:48:25 <PeterSwede> I did the image install (debian-slug) on slug#1, but how do I compile new kernel and install? Want to get rid of the USB NIC.
Feb 16 01:55:56 <PeterSwede> I did the cross compile and all, but can't get slug to boot and use disk on any of the deploy images...
Feb 16 02:10:53 <andrew_redfern> sorry PeterSwede I'm running openSlug
Feb 16 02:12:12 <andrew_redfern> anyone know what file to change the default ssh port in
Feb 16 02:13:33 <andrew_redfern> I changed the port in sshd_config file
Feb 16 02:13:47 <andrew_redfern> but it still boots to port 22
Feb 16 02:15:16 <Tenkawa> its in dropbear config
Feb 16 02:15:31 <Tenkawa> in /etc/init.d/dropbear or /etc/default somewhere I think
Feb 16 02:15:37 <Tenkawa> grep 22 
Feb 16 02:15:54 <Tenkawa> I've already converted to debianslug so I cant directly look it up
Feb 16 02:19:11 <andrew_redfern> what is dropbear?
Feb 16 02:19:28 <Tenkawa> lightweight ssh server
Feb 16 02:19:37 <Tenkawa> thats standard on openslug I think
Feb 16 02:20:24 <andrew_redfern> ok so it's not running opensssh?
Feb 16 02:20:47 <andrew_redfern> ok your write
Feb 16 02:20:48 <Tenkawa> no
Feb 16 02:21:01 <andrew_redfern> looking at top I see dropbear running
Feb 16 02:21:03 <andrew_redfern> hmmm
Feb 16 02:21:20 <Tenkawa> nod
Feb 16 02:23:22 <andrew_redfern> hmmm ok that's funny so looking at it I see dropbear and sshd running
Feb 16 02:23:26 <PeterSwede> Thanks for help. Good night.
Feb 16 02:23:29 <andrew_redfern> is this correct?
Feb 16 02:24:25 <Tenkawa> yeah.. just change its value in the startup script to move the port
Feb 16 02:24:27 <Tenkawa> I did
Feb 16 02:25:47 <andrew_redfern> ok so there is two ssh servers running?
Feb 16 02:25:53 <andrew_redfern> sshd and dropbear
Feb 16 02:26:15 <Tenkawa> shouldnt be
Feb 16 02:26:15 <andrew_redfern> because I was just able to ssh into the slug with two different ports
Feb 16 02:26:20 <Tenkawa> unless you have both 
Feb 16 02:26:22 <Tenkawa> installed
Feb 16 02:26:27 <Tenkawa> heheh sounds like you do
Feb 16 02:26:39 <andrew_redfern> ok that's funny
Feb 16 02:27:01 <andrew_redfern> so what one should I keep?
Feb 16 02:27:19 <Tenkawa> I use openssh
Feb 16 02:27:30 <Tenkawa> especially since all I do is run a few console apps on mine
Feb 16 02:28:06 <andrew_redfern> ok
Feb 16 02:28:43 <andrew_redfern> so if I want to uninstall dropbear can I just do ipkg remove dropbear?
Feb 16 02:30:22 <Tenkawa> that I cant tell you
Feb 16 02:30:29 <Tenkawa> sinc I went to debianslug immediately
Feb 16 02:34:05 <andrew_redfern> hmmm that seemed to work
Feb 16 02:34:30 <andrew_redfern> why did you switch?
Feb 16 02:34:43 <Tenkawa> because I like debian
Feb 16 02:35:53 <andrew_redfern> ok sure
Feb 16 02:52:58 <andrew_redfern> alright time for me to get some dinner thanks for your help Tenkawa
Feb 16 03:42:27 <geojeff|away> anyone around to help with basic computer-to-slug network setup via a crossover cable? slug was unslung, and was configured on a lan, but has been in mothballs for 6 months. laptop for connecting is ubuntu.
Feb 16 03:45:49 <geojeff> eth0 config in /etc/network/interfaces on laptop is set to static 192.168.1.1, netmask 255.255.255.0, network 192.168.1.0, broadcast 192.155.1.255, gateway 192.168.1.100 (taken from a suggestion earlier)
Feb 16 03:46:30 <geojeff> do i need to do something like route add...?
Feb 16 03:47:06 <geojeff> slug boots fine, and gets green lights on ready/status and disk1, but nothing on ethernet light
Feb 16 03:54:41 <geojeff> i'll need to redo redboot steps i think
Feb 16 04:22:16 <walstib> anybody have problems with the fs on unslung 5.5b?
Feb 16 04:56:28 <geojeff> when trying to telnet into redboot from ubuntu, telnet gives no route to host. does that mean that i just missed?
Feb 16 04:59:03 <geojeff> think i'll try from a different computer tomorrow
Feb 16 05:10:01 <andrew_redfern> I saw some there a script  you could run to do it
Feb 16 05:13:15 <andrew_redfern> I was trying to set up my slug for a static ip and once I rebooted it I can't seem to find it in the routing table.  Is there a way to undo the changes I've made?  Like connecting the hard drive to another computer editing the config file?
Feb 16 05:35:34 <andrew_redfern> any thoughts guys?
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