**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 27 10:59:57 2006
Feb 27 12:03:36 <bouncybrian> hello
Feb 27 12:03:46 <bouncybrian> can anyone help a slug newbie out?
Feb 27 12:04:37 <bouncybrian> please
Feb 27 12:06:35 <bouncybrian> how come nobody seems to actually be chatting in these channels?
Feb 27 12:51:22 <dr_nick> hi
Feb 27 12:52:31 <dr_nick> what do you think of this: i've got a usb2 hub on my 2nd usb port. it connects to a printer, hdd and my mp3 player, which is recharged via usb.
Feb 27 12:53:07 <dr_nick> so i need my usb hub to be powered with it's own power supply so my mp3 stick can recharge.
Feb 27 12:53:47 <dr_nick> ok, now when i power down my slug and even if i unplug the slug's a/c adaptor, the leds keep blinking and it looks as if it's powered up.
Feb 27 12:54:05 <dr_nick> seems to draw power from the usb hub.
Feb 27 12:55:06 <dr_nick> should i buy a new usb hub?
Feb 27 19:00:45 <Lacsi> how can i download openslug .mks and patches? i wan't to native compile some openslug packages for unslung
Feb 27 21:44:44 <nebajoth> hey guys
Feb 27 21:44:47 <nebajoth> I have a question
Feb 27 21:45:10 <nebajoth> I have a set (4) of Creative Muvo MP3 players
Feb 27 21:45:19 <nebajoth> they plug directly into usb ports and get recognized as a hard drive
Feb 27 21:45:24 <nebajoth> if I get an NSLU2
Feb 27 21:45:31 <nebajoth> will it treat it as a hard drive?
Feb 27 21:45:39 <nebajoth> and if so, will it then be restricted to only 2 of them at a time?
Feb 27 21:45:48 <nebajoth> ideally, I would like to plug in a usb hub
Feb 27 21:45:53 <nebajoth> and plug in all 4 to the hub
Feb 27 21:46:05 <nebajoth> and write a script to transfer different podcasts to each one
Feb 27 21:46:21 <nebajoth> this is so that I can just grab whatever colour muvo corresponds to the podcast I want to listen to that day
Feb 27 21:46:34 <nebajoth> is this going to be possible with the nslu2 or not?
Feb 27 21:54:21 <nebajoth> they get recognized as sda1, etc, under linux btw
Feb 27 21:54:36 <nebajoth> /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2
Feb 27 21:57:15 <pepijn> how do i find out what changes were made in the repository (ies) ?
Feb 27 21:57:39 <pepijn> just ran an make update and found a change on packages/ixp425-eth/ixp400-eth_1.5.bb
Feb 27 21:57:46 <pepijn> now i wonder what the change is
Feb 27 21:57:59 * pepijn is new to the wicked world of monotone and oe
Feb 27 21:59:57 <pepijn> is the silence an indication that you all are as clueless as i am ? ;)
Feb 27 22:00:11 <nebajoth> no
Feb 27 22:00:14 <nebajoth> most of them aren't looking
Feb 27 22:00:20 <nebajoth> I came about 20 minutes ago and asked a question
Feb 27 22:00:22 <nebajoth> and haven't heard a peep
Feb 27 22:00:31 <nebajoth> I say just leave the window open and check it in about an hour
Feb 27 22:01:12 <pepijn> so, what was your q. then?
Feb 27 22:05:59 <nebajoth> I wanted to know if my mp3 player gets recognized as a harddrive
Feb 27 22:06:05 <nebajoth> and was thus subject to the limitation of two
Feb 27 22:06:09 <nebajoth> (at a time)
Feb 27 22:06:19 <nebajoth> it gets recognized as /dev/sda1 under linux
Feb 27 22:06:28 <nebajoth> so I'm hoping that it isn't actually subject to the same limitations
Feb 27 22:06:29 <nebajoth> as I have 4
Feb 27 22:06:34 <nebajoth> and I want to attach them all at once
Feb 27 22:06:41 <pepijn> which image?
Feb 27 22:06:52 <nebajoth> none yet... haven't got the NLSU2
Feb 27 22:06:54 <jaxson> nebajoth: You should be able to do whatever you can on an ordinary pc diff things that take lots of cpu power ;)
Feb 27 22:07:19 <nebajoth> I was under the impression that the NSLU2 could only handle two usb harddrives at a time
Feb 27 22:07:20 <pepijn> but yeah, agree with jaxson
Feb 27 22:07:34 <pepijn> just connect a usb hub to it on one port
Feb 27 22:07:40 <jaxson> So hook a USB-hub on and off you go
Feb 27 22:07:45 <pepijn> :)
Feb 27 22:07:56 <jaxson> Yes, I agree with pepijn :)
Feb 27 22:08:05 <nebajoth> if I hook up a usb hub, can I hook up an indefinite amount of (externally powered ) hard drives too?
Feb 27 22:08:20 <nebajoth> well, this is excellent news
Feb 27 22:08:24 <pepijn> if the linux kernel kan handle it, you can
Feb 27 22:08:26 <nebajoth> I'll order an nslu2 right now
Feb 27 22:08:32 <jaxson> No. USB set a max. Dont remember how many though
Feb 27 22:08:38 <nebajoth> any tips on a good place to get a good price?
Feb 27 22:08:51 <nebajoth> the technical USB max is over 100
Feb 27 22:08:59 <pepijn> if you want it in norwegian crowns ;)
Feb 27 22:09:02 <nebajoth> ha
Feb 27 22:09:07 <nebajoth> silly norwegians
Feb 27 22:09:11 <nebajoth> taking over the world
Feb 27 22:09:12 <jaxson> Or swedish crowns to
Feb 27 22:09:17 <pepijn> hehe
Feb 27 22:09:25 <nebajoth> ok, thanks guys
Feb 27 22:09:27 <pepijn> gratuler med OL, du da
Feb 27 22:09:34 <jaxson> We got mor skii golds in this OL :)
Feb 27 22:09:41 <jaxson> Thanks (sorry)
Feb 27 22:09:52 <pepijn> glad i am  not norwegian but dutch
Feb 27 22:09:59 <pepijn> even *we* beat them at gold
Feb 27 22:10:05 <jaxson> :) :)
Feb 27 22:10:07 <pepijn> hehehe
Feb 27 22:10:51 <jaxson> Swedens set for around 11 medals, at best
Feb 27 22:11:20 <jaxson> We got 11 gold (I think, I lost count ;)
Feb 27 22:11:37 <pepijn> just 7
Feb 27 22:11:38 <pepijn> http://www.torino2006.org/ENG/IDF/MDL/MDL_Big.html
Feb 27 22:11:41 <jaxson> So, skating gold for holand?
Feb 27 22:11:51 <pepijn> yes, 3x
Feb 27 22:12:04 <jaxson> As it should ;)
Feb 27 22:12:07 <pepijn> that is the only thing the dutch can achieve in at the olympics
Feb 27 22:12:21 <jaxson> Well, they though 7 medals then ;)
Feb 27 22:12:41 <jaxson> Thats not bad.  Skating is tough...
Feb 27 22:13:34 <jaxson> We have had on realy good skater long time agou (10-20 years?) Gustafsson, I think was his bane,
Feb 27 22:13:42 <alump> no more torino, please...
Feb 27 22:13:58 <jaxson> Ops, sorry.
Feb 27 22:14:02 <pepijn> back to the subject, how to find out about recent changes being made ?
Feb 27 22:14:09 <alump> ...sunday was too plainful.
Feb 27 22:14:28 <jaxson> Uhu? Sunday was grate?
Feb 27 22:14:37 <pepijn> hehe, alump is finish
Feb 27 22:14:56 <jaxson> Ops, sorry... Didnt know. 
Feb 27 22:15:08 <pepijn> the dutch papers actually wrote: 'scandinavians' in ice hockey final
Feb 27 22:15:18 <alump> well, we always have 1995 :/
Feb 27 22:15:36 <alump> ...but never anything else.
Feb 27 22:15:36 <pepijn> they still did not get the difference between 'norden' and 'skandinavia'
Feb 27 22:15:46 <jaxson> pepijn: There is ALWAYS hard (and usally god) games between sweden and finland
Feb 27 22:15:55 <pepijn> yeah, i know
Feb 27 22:17:34 <alump> good and good. most of those games are more painful than visit at the dentist
Feb 27 22:18:18 <jaxson> alump: As good games should be.  Like stockholm, as you wrote.
Feb 27 22:19:21 <jaxson> alump: But I prefere Bandy. You got a gold medal in Worls championship there to...
Feb 27 22:20:25 <alump> we should win it in "innebandy" too ;)
Feb 27 22:21:09 <jaxson> innebandy is for girls. Real bandy is on ice... 
Feb 27 22:21:14 <jaxson> ;)
Feb 27 22:22:14 <alump> this "girl" broke his leg yesterday with innebandy ;)
Feb 27 22:22:58 <pepijn> another reason why sunday was painfull then ;)
Feb 27 22:23:10 <alump> you should go'n play with all that anger after watchin' the final
Feb 27 22:24:42 <jaxson> alump: Oj! Aj! Sorry to here that. 
Feb 27 22:24:57 <jaxson> alump: Not to complicated, I hope?
Feb 27 22:25:13 <alump> nej
Feb 27 22:25:29 <jaxson> Det var gott att höra.
Feb 27 22:25:47 <alump> :)
Feb 27 22:27:03 <alump> and i betted over 50 euros to win of sweden ;)
Feb 27 22:27:20 <jaxson> I'm going to see SAIK going for last strike to get to semi final in swedish champion ship tomorrow.
Feb 27 22:27:30 <jaxson> alump: Not TO bad then... ;)
Feb 27 22:29:13 <jaxson> alump: Told anybody at home about your bet :)
Feb 27 22:29:46 <jaxson> alump: Or are you worried about your other leg?:-D
Feb 27 22:30:21 <alump> I always play against finland, so i get win-win situation :)
Feb 27 22:31:05 <jaxson> alump: Hmmm... Your tricky... 
Feb 27 22:31:11 <nebajoth> forgive my utter ignorance, I just don't know much about Europe... but is there a regular season hockey league there?
Feb 27 22:31:43 <alump> only national seasons
Feb 27 22:31:45 <pepijn> up north, there are
Feb 27 22:31:49 <jaxson> A regular ?
Feb 27 22:32:12 <pepijn> ice hockey, that is
Feb 27 22:32:21 <jaxson> There is one league in each country (with hocky traditions)
Feb 27 22:32:34 <alump> but isn't there starting some sort of fin-swe-turnament on 2006-2007 season?
Feb 27 22:33:09 <jaxson> alump: It might, I dont know.  In bandy there is a cup like that. 
Feb 27 22:34:20 <nebajoth> that's cool
Feb 27 22:34:22 <nebajoth> I'd watch that
Feb 27 22:34:26 <jaxson> There is a royal cup in football between swedens, denmarks and norways two best soccer teams.
Feb 27 22:34:27 <nebajoth> that was an awesome game on Sunday
Feb 27 22:34:35 <nebajoth> I tend to root for Canadian teams, myself, being where I am
Feb 27 22:34:41 <nebajoth> but I'd watch you guys play hockey any day of the week
Feb 27 22:34:46 <alump> finnish soccer is so sad it makes me cry
Feb 27 22:34:55 <pepijn> bit silly, that royal league
Feb 27 22:35:04 <jaxson> alump: Goot to bet against?
Feb 27 22:35:12 <pepijn> playing football in winter in the north is mostly mud games
Feb 27 22:35:15 <jaxson> s/Goot/Good/
Feb 27 22:35:44 <pepijn> there are some great finish soccer players, though
Feb 27 22:35:47 <jaxson> pepijn: Dont know. More like running in snow. But I not fond of soccer.
Feb 27 22:35:59 <alump> good and good. don't win much when betting against finnish
Feb 27 22:36:13 <jaxson> :) Money back?
Feb 27 22:36:21 <alump> something like that ;)
Feb 27 22:36:32 <alump> maybe not even that
Feb 27 22:36:43 <jaxson> alump: Thats bad...
Feb 27 22:36:43 <pepijn> that is a losuy bet
Feb 27 22:37:13 <jaxson> pepijn: Anyway, I like bandy better.  Like a cross between ice hockey and soccer.
Feb 27 22:37:40 <jaxson> pepijn: Rules from soccer and speed from ice hockey. 
Feb 27 22:37:53 <jaxson> pepijn: Realy good mix, actually.
Feb 27 22:38:30 <alump> with global warming bandy will die ;)
Feb 27 22:38:50 <jaxson> alump: No, we starting to build bandy halls.
Feb 27 22:39:19 <jaxson> alump: Bit large though. Like putting a roof over a soccer arena. 
Feb 27 22:39:30 <alump> well, if people are now starting to build ski jumping halls, so why not bandy halls
Feb 27 22:40:03 <jaxson> alump: Swedens (for now) best team Edsbyn has a area.  
Feb 27 22:40:16 <jaxson> alump: They do?  In finland?
Feb 27 22:40:57 <alump> somewhere, maybe, some plans - i don't know better
Feb 27 22:41:21 <alump> just readed that somewhere, they want to get rid of winds
Feb 27 22:42:22 <jaxson> That makes SOME sens with that.
Feb 27 22:43:24 <alump> but winds are part of skijumping, just like lame yankee/canadian referees in international ice hockey turnaments ;)
Feb 27 22:43:33 <jaxson> Here is the Edsbyn arena: http://www.dinaarena.se/
Feb 27 22:43:54 <jaxson> alump: Dont be a bad looser :)
Feb 27 22:44:39 <alump> final game was pretty good refering, but before that (usa game f.ex.)
Feb 27 22:45:21 <jaxson> alump: Well.  Any group you compare individuls. Some better, some worse.
Feb 27 22:46:15 <alump> true
Feb 27 22:46:44 <jaxson> alump: But at least they can skate. Which referee didnt? He climbed around the sides most of the matches (prox 20-25 years ago?)
Feb 27 22:47:06 <jaxson> alump: Was he check?
Feb 27 22:47:25 <alump> same referee that was in the final
Feb 27 22:47:58 <alump> it's just sad if the main reason to penalty is that player can't stay up. fall eq. penalty
Feb 27 22:47:59 <jaxson> Dont think soo.  He was old 20-25 years ago ;)
Feb 27 22:49:30 <alump> whatever
Feb 27 22:50:49 <jaxson> Well, they did fall quite easy at the Czeck game too.
Feb 27 22:51:09 <jaxson> Anyway. good night. 
Feb 27 22:51:28 <jaxson> alump: And there are new OS coming :)
Feb 27 22:52:12 <alump> det är sant
Feb 27 22:53:12 <jaxson> alump: Senast jag kollade så blir det ett nytt om 4 år :)
Feb 27 22:53:18 <jaxson> God natt i vart fall. 
Feb 27 23:03:26 <Lacsi> hey folks what is it whit nslu- unlsung if it is beepeing 3 times and repeating it 10-20 times??
Feb 27 23:04:42 <Lacsi> among processes set_led(root) showed up, only samba, compiler,ftpd,thhtpd is running
Feb 27 23:47:46 <mwester> Lacsi - disk full?
Feb 27 23:48:58 <Lacsi> somwthing with disk yes
Feb 27 23:49:42 <Lacsi> 450MB free on data, but after reboot nothing showed up just beeping..
Feb 27 23:50:35 <mwester> I think there is a wiki article that identifies mysterious beeps as coming from the Linksys utlity that warns about disk full -- but that doesn't sound like your problem.  What OS are you using with the NSLU2?
Feb 27 23:52:36 <mwester> But check here anyway, maybe it will help? http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/FAQ/BeepingEvery8Hours
Feb 27 23:56:04 <Lacsi> it is an unslung slinged
Feb 27 23:57:22 <Lacsi> and thanx it will be the lowspace warning, becouse i had ~1% left on a 80GB disk about 450MB, but i still don't understand why it isnotbooting from it..
Feb 28 00:02:43 <mwester> I would think it should boot.   However, if you just boot it up without drives, then plug the drive in afterwards, perhaps that will get it running enough so that you can clean up a little space and recover it?
Feb 28 00:04:40 <Lacsi> yeah i did so
Feb 28 00:04:58 <Lacsi> freeing up some space and checking boot
Feb 28 00:17:51 <Lacsi> steel beeping with 3% free (2GB) and no thttpd/telnet/ssh unslung 5.5beta
Feb 28 00:32:39 <Lacsi> hm samba looks faster whitout unslinged..
Feb 28 00:56:39 <Lacsi> mwester thanks, beeps gone away but still not boot whit hdd on
Feb 28 00:57:17 <Lacsi> with
Feb 28 02:24:12 <cStyled> hello
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