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Apr 28 20:21:48 <NSLU2-IRC> hello
Apr 28 20:22:02 <NSLU2-IRC> anybody?
Apr 28 20:22:42 <ByronT> first, change your nick - and then just ask away
Apr 28 20:23:08 <caplink811_log> which means
Apr 28 20:23:11 <NSLU2-IRC> how could I change it?
Apr 28 20:23:12 <caplink811_log> ~nick
Apr 28 20:23:13 <capbot> People leaving their nickname as NSLU2-IRC will be ignored ...  otherwise we'll end up with 10 nslu2-irc users ... so please change it using /nick newnick
Apr 28 20:23:40 <Lukketto> ok?
Apr 28 20:23:57 <Lukketto> Hi everybody!
Apr 28 20:23:57 <caplink811_log> sure, good morning
Apr 28 20:23:59 <Lukketto> ;)
Apr 28 20:24:10 <Lukketto> could you give me a hand?
Apr 28 20:24:16 <caplink811_log> ~ask
Apr 28 20:24:17 <capbot> If you have a question, just ask, maybe someone have an answer... sometimes.
Apr 28 20:24:56 <Lukketto> I use unslung 6.8 but when I connect on Disk1 another usb disk the telnet pawwrod does not work....
Apr 28 20:24:58 <Lukketto> ...
Apr 28 20:26:01 <Lukketto> is it possible to have my nslu2 as original, with the original firmware?  (then I'll unslug ;D)
Apr 28 20:26:32 <Lukketto> If I try to install the old firmware it say "bad name or format"
Apr 28 20:26:34 <Lukketto> :(
Apr 28 20:27:26 <caplink811_log> myself would suggest, just ipkg install dropbear (a ssh server) and use putty (assuming you're in a win environment) as client, instead telnet
Apr 28 20:28:51 <Lukketto> I made this just now....I installed only openssh and it works fine ;)
Apr 28 20:29:18 <Lukketto> Why install dropbear when openssh works?
Apr 28 20:32:40 <Lukketto> sorry, but if I connect the disk1 it does not work......
Apr 28 20:33:15 <Lukketto> caplink: if you use two hard disk the telnet works with your password?
Apr 28 20:38:00 <Lukketto> ???
Apr 28 20:38:04 <caplink811_log> 1st i don't own 2 hd at one machine, and 2nd i don't use telnet, but ssh
Apr 28 20:38:57 <caplink811_log> dropbear is equal to openssh, nearly, but i don't know that you installed openssh already
Apr 28 20:39:55 <caplink811_log> just for my information, you installed openssh, and it works, but only, if you don't use both hd's at a time?
Apr 28 20:40:13 <Lukketto> exactly!
Apr 28 20:40:46 <Lukketto> please, help me :)
Apr 28 20:41:39 <Lukketto> any solutions?
Apr 28 20:43:15 <caplink811_log> maybe, that there are any problems with /dev/sda and /dev/sdb, and vice versa, at some times, but i couldn't test it... maybe, that there is a solution, using labeling, google with searchwords label and fstab...
Apr 28 20:44:23 <caplink811_log> hm, in the past, which of your disk was unslinging before? only one, or any of the disks, or is 6.8 the 1st unslung firmware you used?
Apr 28 20:46:33 <Lukketto> 6.8 is the first
Apr 28 20:46:38 <caplink811_log> k
Apr 28 20:47:03 <caplink811_log> ByronT,  or mwester (if you're around..) any deas about that ?
Apr 28 20:47:17 <caplink811_log> s/deas/ideas/
Apr 28 20:47:18 <capbot> caplink811_log meant: ByronT,  or mwester (if you're around..) any ideas about that ?
Apr 28 20:47:52 <caplink811_log> and you're unslinged disk is at usb port 2?
Apr 28 20:48:02 <Lukketto> yes
Apr 28 20:48:15 <caplink811_log> hmm
Apr 28 20:48:23 <Lukketto> the other one is formatted by nslu2
Apr 28 20:48:46 <caplink811_log> that is basically ok
Apr 28 20:50:14 <Lukketto> :(
Apr 28 20:50:38 <caplink811_log> myself running out of suggestions, maybe that you hang around some hours to see if anybody has an idea which covers your problem, or you write a message to the mailing list...
Apr 28 20:50:50 <caplink811_log> ~nslu2-mailing list
Apr 28 20:51:02 <mwester> If you have TWO disks, both formatted by the NSLU2, then you MUST unsling to the disk in USB Port 1  ---  if you unsling to the one in Port 2, and then LATER plug a disk (formatted by the NSLU2) into Port 1, the new disk will REPLACE your passwd files (and group, and samba config and other files).   (This is in wiki somewhere, don't know where right now)
Apr 28 20:51:20 <caplink811_log> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-general/messages it is
Apr 28 20:51:39 <caplink811_log> mwester,  thx
Apr 28 20:52:35 <caplink811_log> mwester,  jfmi, will that override the /opt dir too?
Apr 28 20:54:24 <mwester> No.  What happens is that the Linksys code will mount the drive in USB Port 1 /share/hdd/conf  overtop of /share/flash/conf -- so that all of the files on the "conf" partition are "hidden" by the new drive's files.  The new drive's files are copies of the files at the time it was formatted, which usually means that we do not know the root password.
Apr 28 20:54:30 <caplink811_log> Lukketto,  do you use openssh with password authentification or with a key file?
Apr 28 20:54:53 <caplink811_log> mwester,  k, thx again
Apr 28 20:55:51 <mwester> One way to fix  might be to telnet in without disks, plug in the drive in USB port 1, and follow the wiki instructions for changing the password -- but that will only fix the password file, the others (group, samba) may also need to be fixed.
Apr 28 20:55:59 <caplink811_log> i understand, this is the thingy with the links in /share/hdd/conf...
Apr 28 20:56:20 <mwester> Yes, normally (for example) /etc/passwd is a sym link to /share/hdd/conf/passwd
Apr 28 20:56:39 <caplink811_log> bye by....
Apr 28 20:56:56 <Lukketto> mwester: is there a way to "reset" all the things?
Apr 28 20:57:59 <mwester> Have you just recently flashed Unslung and performed the unsling operation?  Or have you spent much work installing software and configuring?
Apr 28 20:59:03 <Lukketto> the 2nd one!
Apr 28 20:59:47 <mwester> Then you have to remove the drive in USB Port 1, and the system should run as it used to.
Apr 28 20:59:58 <Lukketto> yes!
Apr 28 21:01:25 <Lukketto> maybe....is it possible that I enabled telnet the first time with usb disks connected? -->problems with telnet?
Apr 28 21:01:57 <caplink811_log> installed openssh is a good precondition, you could switch from password authentification to keyfile authentification
Apr 28 21:03:22 <mwester> I don't think this has anything to do with telnet -- the problem is that part of the filesystem disappears when you plug in the disk into USB Port 1.
Apr 28 21:03:38 <mwester> WIll both disks be permanently connected to the NSLU2? 
Apr 28 21:03:56 <Lukketto> no
Apr 28 21:04:09 <Lukketto> but if I unplug the disk1, and reboot, telnet works fine, even ssh.
Apr 28 21:04:25 <Lukketto> It's very strange!
Apr 28 21:05:05 <Lukketto> If I try to install unslug 6.8 another time....could it be a good solution?
Apr 28 21:05:57 <caplink811_log> imho, no, the problems appears if you plug in the disk in port1
Apr 28 21:06:13 <caplink811_log> as mwester mentioned above
Apr 28 21:06:57 <caplink811_log> Lukketto,  do you use openshh with password authentification or with a keyfile ?
Apr 28 21:07:21 <Lukketto> password authentication
Apr 28 21:07:50 <caplink811_log> when you switch to authentification with a keyfile, then passwd isn't use anymore
Apr 28 21:08:20 <caplink811_log> and there is no need for enabling telnet after a reboot
Apr 28 21:08:25 <Lukketto> How could I authewnticate with a keyfile?
Apr 28 21:08:49 <caplink811_log> there is a howto at the wiki, just a moment, i'll search
Apr 28 21:09:56 <caplink811_log> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/UseOpenSSHForRemoteAccess
Apr 28 21:10:19 <caplink811_log> this describe the key generation and the key use too
Apr 28 21:11:45 <caplink811_log> you should do this with disk 2, where you're booting from, if this works, you could try it with 2 disks attached
Apr 28 21:14:52 <Lukketto> ok, tell me a thing: do you use 6.8 with only one disk?
Apr 28 21:15:48 <caplink811_log> not me, one slug runs unslung-5.5, the other opendebianslug, so everything is only an idea, or a suggestion
Apr 28 21:17:01 <caplink811_log> but ssh access with keyfile authentification should work under all circumstances 
Apr 28 21:17:26 <Lukketto> ok, it was a curiosity.
Apr 28 21:17:38 <Lukketto> Why do you use 5.5 and not 6.8?
Apr 28 21:18:32 <caplink811_log> because, i have no need for 6.8, my disk is ext3, and i'm using nit hub, and no other devices (printer e.g)
Apr 28 21:19:20 <caplink811_log> and no ntfs... and, never touch a running system ;)
Apr 28 21:20:00 <Lukketto> ;)
Apr 28 21:20:38 <Lukketto> I use Ubuntu but sometimes, as now, window$ :)
Apr 28 21:21:46 <caplink811_log> but everything depens on your linux/unix knowledge, when you're familar with that, you should tryout debianslug, which is debian, or similar ti ubuntu (paket manager)
Apr 28 21:22:11 <caplink811_log> s/ti/to
Apr 28 21:22:35 <Lukketto> to use debianslug I'd only to change the firmware?
Apr 28 21:22:58 <caplink811_log> basically, yes and follow the instructions at
Apr 28 21:24:31 <mwester> Lukketto: If you re-install, but this time you install to USB port 1, then you will not have this problem.  You can then plug in a drive to USB Port 2 and it will not cause this problem.
Apr 28 21:24:35 <caplink811_log> http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/ and use the unoffical image (if you don't have an usb network adapter)
Apr 28 21:26:45 <Lukketto> mwester: what have I to re-install?
Apr 28 21:26:59 <mwester> Everything
Apr 28 21:27:02 <Lukketto> unslug 6.8?
Apr 28 21:28:13 <Lukketto> even unslug 6.8?
Apr 28 21:28:39 <mwester> Yes.  Also, do not forget to reformat the drives on another system to a single FAT or NTFS partition, and then reformat on the NSLU2  - or the NSLU2 will silently not erase the old data on the disks (and you will not be able to install)
Apr 28 21:29:27 <mwester> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/WhichUSBPortforUnslung6 might be helpful for  background
Apr 28 21:30:21 <Lukketto> does the disk1 support usb-pendrive?
Apr 28 21:31:30 <mwester> On Unslung, yes.
Apr 28 21:32:11 <mwester> Unslung does not distinguish between disk drives and USB flash devices.
Apr 29 07:04:48 <drasch> i've built a new kernel from source for my nslu2 using bitbake, how do I install it properly?
Apr 29 07:38:22 <dangermouse> ahem
Apr 29 07:39:03 <drasch> dangermouse: greetings
Apr 29 07:39:05 <dangermouse> once I "unsling" my slug, will it operate without any USB HDD attached?
Apr 29 07:39:31 <drasch> dangermouse: yes, after unslinging you can still boot without the HDD
Apr 29 07:39:50 <drasch> but it'll be the version you're working with now, all in flash
Apr 29 07:40:37 <dangermouse> OK, so any changes I make (installing cups, for example) will only work when I boot off the disk I unsling to?
Apr 29 07:40:47 <drasch> yep
Apr 29 07:56:37 <dangermouse> thnx. big ups to the devs
Apr 29 08:54:18 <D|dge> Hi
Apr 29 09:41:56 <Reedy_Boy> Hello
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