**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 13 02:59:56 2006 Jun 13 03:24:20 damn Jun 13 03:37:00 so "apt-get install samba" only for server install Jun 13 03:37:12 ya Jun 13 03:38:01 wish there was a faster way of rsync with "-c" though Jun 13 03:38:07 (i.e., crc check) Jun 13 03:38:45 i mount my stuff via nfs, then i rsync, this way its more local rsync so i dont need to encrypt. much faster Jun 13 03:39:18 is samba encrypted? Jun 13 03:39:43 no Jun 13 03:39:55 I think auth is encrypted (on my subnet) but not data. I would do that if I had wireless on a separate subnet. Jun 13 03:40:13 I don't dare rsync over wireless though (far too buggy) Jun 13 03:40:49 ya. my wireless choke when i transfer file. i can only surf the net. Jun 13 03:41:22 yeah seems that tcp part of tcpip chokes. should retransmit if needed but it seems perhaps wifi MAC gets confused Jun 13 03:44:51 I hear that nfs has lots of parameters that need tweaking for optimal efficiency (burst size?) Jun 13 03:45:51 ya Jun 13 03:47:23 too bad it's not self-tuning Jun 13 03:47:36 hehe Jun 13 04:00:47 thanks for ur help deadcat, gotta book. Jun 13 04:01:07 k Jun 13 05:48:04 hi Jun 13 05:51:32 what up Cheef-Daniel Jun 13 05:51:52 is it allowed to sell unslung in ebay? Jun 13 05:52:27 autsch Jun 13 05:52:45 Cheef-Daniel: if you want to be an asshole. sure. Jun 13 05:52:46 mom, please my chair is broken Jun 13 05:54:11 Cheef-Daniel: its free (speech, beer) but its just that opensource community dont like people selling free stuff.. thats why most people hate redhat.. and soon ubuntu Jun 13 05:56:20 thats why I asked, I see someone in Ebay who is selling it, together with an usb-stick Jun 13 05:57:37 Cheef-Daniel: ah... that bastard! (= Jun 13 05:57:48 Cheef-Daniel: hes going to hell Jun 13 05:58:08 he sells a lamp distribution on a usb-strick ready for use with an nslu2 Jun 13 05:58:51 Cheef-Daniel: ah. but the person who buys it still have to flash the firmware.. right? Jun 13 05:59:20 Cheef-Daniel: how bit is the usb-stick? Jun 13 05:59:25 I think so, it wouldn't be possible to use it with unslung if not Jun 13 05:59:41 512 Jun 13 05:59:50 Cheef-Daniel: ya. so if someone know how to flash. that person definitely know how to install LAMP (= Jun 13 06:00:27 if i have a 2gig thumb drive. that would be nice. no more hauling the enclosure around (= Jun 13 06:02:01 Cheef-Daniel: what are you running on your slug? Jun 13 06:02:12 debianslug Jun 13 06:02:32 Cheef-Daniel: nice. which howto did you follow? i have to do that once i get the enclosure Jun 13 06:02:32 runs nice, before that I had unslung and openslug Jun 13 06:02:52 Cheef-Daniel: i use debian on my machines so i am not even gonna bother with the others Jun 13 06:03:46 it was a long time ago, I must search the howto first Jun 13 06:04:13 Cheef-Daniel: ah. i notice theres 2 way of getting the debianslug. but i dont nkow which is the clean way. Jun 13 06:04:49 what do you use at the moment? Jun 13 06:04:50 Cheef-Daniel: http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/ and http://peter.korsgaard.com/articles/debian-nslu2.php and the bootstrap debian.. but i think the first one is the preferred choice.. Jun 13 06:05:24 Cheef-Daniel: its just out of the box few hours ago with my 128MB thumb drive (= Jun 13 06:05:31 not doing much at all right now. Jun 13 06:06:08 ah I see there is an installer now, I used a binary Jun 13 06:06:38 Cheef-Daniel: ah. much easier now i guess (=. an idiot like me can do it.. hopefully (= Jun 13 06:07:18 Cheef-Daniel: what you run on the thing? i plan to replace it with what i run on my desktop right now. so i can turn it off at night... i LOVE the slug if it can handle most of the stuff i run. since its so quiet Jun 13 06:07:54 thats true, but the network speed is a bit slow Jun 13 06:08:06 I use it for a small media center Jun 13 06:08:26 what you mean network speed? like transfering huge files? Jun 13 06:08:43 I mean transferspeed Jun 13 06:08:57 ah Jun 13 06:09:32 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/Performance Jun 13 06:09:51 i use it mostly for webserver, gallery, php, ssh (friends) printer, webcam, and so on.. maybe bitorrent download. maybe the torrent would be slow when i move it over to the desktop Jun 13 06:10:06 ah.. Jun 13 06:10:53 I think for a small webserver it woud be ok Jun 13 06:11:12 cool. Jun 13 06:11:25 mysql for exapmple needs a lot of ram and is slow because of that Jun 13 06:11:41 luckily i dont use database (= Jun 13 06:13:11 I think i installed opendebianslug from here http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/DebianSlug/HomePage Jun 13 06:14:05 so you have big endian or little endian? Jun 13 06:14:31 do you know how can I find out this? (long time ago) Jun 13 06:14:42 check /proc/cpuinfo Jun 13 06:14:48 it MIGHT show. but i have no clue either (= Jun 13 06:14:56 i only have x86 and ppc machines Jun 13 06:15:26 it boots now Jun 13 06:15:57 before you do anthing you should make a backup of the files Jun 13 06:16:09 what files? the firmware? Jun 13 06:16:23 our files on the stick Jun 13 06:16:27 you Jun 13 06:16:28 r Jun 13 06:16:35 oh. Jun 13 06:16:46 need a new keboard, sorr Jun 13 06:16:50 hehe Jun 13 06:17:17 and a new chair Jun 13 06:18:49 sorry, no information in cpuinfo Jun 13 06:19:19 in /proc/cpuinfo right? Jun 13 06:19:36 yes, nothing about be or le Jun 13 06:20:07 doh Jun 13 06:23:22 I think it must be OpenDebianSlug Jun 13 06:23:34 ah Jun 13 06:24:46 there is some line in /proc/version: Linux version 2.6.15 (openslug@openslug.org) Jun 13 06:25:13 but I know its not openslug, because I used i before Jun 13 06:26:16 (= Jun 13 06:26:27 check /etc/apt/sources.list Jun 13 06:26:43 if it has a regular debian repo line. then its little endian Jun 13 06:28:12 root@NSLU2:/var/log# cat /etc/apt/sources.list Jun 13 06:28:12 #deb http://ftp.debian.org sid main Jun 13 06:28:12 deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free Jun 13 06:29:37 looks like little endian to me. since the website say little endian uses all the debian packages while big endian only have 1/2 of the software ported Jun 13 06:30:51 ou could try the le Jun 13 06:31:17 and if you dont like it try be Jun 13 06:31:30 i am gonna go le. Jun 13 06:43:35 deadcat: do you have a palm? Jun 13 06:43:51 CheefDaniel: a crappy handspring visor.. 8MB Jun 13 06:43:58 it was a gift. Jun 13 06:44:10 kinna useless though (= Jun 13 06:44:16 does it have a serial cradle? Jun 13 06:44:20 usb Jun 13 06:44:36 oh you mean you can use that with the slug? Jun 13 06:44:47 I connected my palm to the nslu2 and use it as an display Jun 13 06:44:59 like the small lcd displays Jun 13 06:45:02 CheefDaniel: DAMN!!!!! Jun 13 06:45:10 can you show some pictures? Jun 13 06:45:38 but I dont know if it works on every palm because you need a special software on them Jun 13 06:45:56 ah Jun 13 06:46:19 show me some picture of the setup please. i dont even know what cable you taling about Jun 13 06:46:54 sorry don't a cam here yet Jun 13 06:47:10 my palm as docking station with an serial cable Jun 13 06:47:27 I wrote this article about that http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Peripherals/Palm Jun 13 06:48:25 k Jun 13 06:48:26 here is a picture Jun 13 06:48:28 http://cgi.ebay.de/Palm-Pilot-Professional-inkl-Docking-Station_W0QQitemZ9735433634QQcategoryZ38331QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Jun 13 06:49:06 CheefDaniel: i have a serial and the cradle. but not that palm. (= Jun 13 06:49:29 you can get this old palm for less than 5Euro Jun 13 06:49:44 CheefDaniel: ya. true Jun 13 06:50:27 so you ssh and run command. it shows up on the palm? (= Jun 13 06:50:42 yes Jun 13 06:50:46 HAHAH nice Jun 13 06:50:48 its a mini-terminal Jun 13 06:51:08 don't need a pc to control the slug Jun 13 06:51:16 let me read the article. Jun 13 06:51:29 oh hot damn. run command FROM the palm? (= Jun 13 06:51:40 sure Jun 13 06:51:42 (= Jun 13 06:52:36 the problem is only the software on the palm, if you can get one that emulates a real lcd on yours you can get it up too Jun 13 06:53:21 cool. Jun 13 06:54:48 the project-site of the emulator is http://palmorb.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html Jun 13 06:55:03 i have this Jun 13 06:55:26 http://cgi.ebay.com/Handspring-Visor-Prism-COLOR-8-MG-PDA-IN-BOX_W0QQitemZ9739991930QQihZ008QQcategoryZ38331QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Jun 13 06:56:05 Operating system: Palm OS 3.5.2H Jun 13 06:57:05 possible it works with it Jun 13 06:57:24 Supports PalmOS 2.0 and above Jun 13 06:57:32 cool Jun 13 06:57:51 Supports USB on Linux Jun 13 06:58:00 good chances Jun 13 06:58:28 and Supports pre-PalmOS 4.0 handspring/visor USB Palms [on Windows use LCD smartie 5.3a3 or above Jun 13 06:58:47 ya. i use jpilot with that thing Jun 13 06:59:29 i also have a keyboard for the visor too (= Jun 13 06:59:57 I use the touchscreen Jun 13 07:00:49 let me show you a photo Jun 13 07:01:30 sshonly.sytes.net/tmp/visor.jpg Jun 13 07:01:50 hopefully will make the slug sshonly.sytes.net within the new few weeks. Jun 13 07:02:45 cool best for an stand-alone-mp3-station Jun 13 07:03:33 only some usb-sound-hardware is missing Jun 13 07:03:48 (= Jun 13 07:05:06 do you have icq? Jun 13 07:05:10 ya Jun 13 07:05:15 using bitlbee Jun 13 07:06:11 just requested Jun 13 07:07:15 ok I need a little sleep now Jun 13 07:07:34 k later Jun 13 07:07:44 cu Jun 13 07:07:48 (= Jun 13 07:07:54 thanks for all the info hehe Jun 13 07:08:23 no problem, thats why I here too Jun 13 07:08:37 bye Jun 13 07:31:33 you there, caplink811_log? Jun 13 08:00:53 does anyone know if it's possible to get older unslung ipkg's from somewhere? Jun 13 08:02:03 I'm looking for py-bittorrent_4.4.0-2_mipsel.ipk Jun 13 08:47:12 Neu: why not debianslug? you get 1600+ packages Jun 13 08:48:02 dc: good point Jun 13 08:48:38 dc: I installed unslung and it seemed like it had what I needed Jun 13 08:48:48 by the way. once you have linux running. do you shutdown from command line or the button works too? Jun 13 08:49:08 Neu: oh.. i am a debian user so i figure debian would be the way for me.. (= Jun 13 08:49:17 the button works Jun 13 08:49:23 (but i never shutdown :) ) Jun 13 08:49:51 (= Jun 13 08:49:55 just wondering hehe Jun 13 08:49:58 i am a debian user as well Jun 13 08:50:17 ipkg is similar enough to apt-get to make me comfy Jun 13 08:50:22 take advantage of the repo then (= Jun 13 08:51:00 well, yeah, but wouldn't i have to reinstall? Jun 13 08:52:17 Neu: i am not clear. since i am pretty new to slug http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/ Jun 13 08:53:14 i'm really not too keen on tinkering too much with it. suddenly i sit there with hours of reinstall. Jun 13 08:53:39 (= Jun 13 08:54:26 i have better things to do. it's summer outside :) Jun 13 08:54:45 true hehe Jun 13 08:55:01 but if you own a slug. YOU ARE A GEEK!! (= Jun 13 08:55:13 eek! Jun 13 08:55:31 summer will have to wait hehe Jun 13 08:55:56 the joys of hardware hacking has really faded over the years. now i just want something that works... Jun 13 08:56:05 i'm getting old, i guess Jun 13 08:56:06 :P Jun 13 09:11:38 i get high io waits, what could be the reason? Jun 13 09:11:44 system slows down then.. Jun 13 09:12:03 can't run rtorrent and smb smoothly together Jun 13 09:14:02 out of memory maybe? Jun 13 09:30:51 hrm Jun 13 09:31:03 Swap: 361420k total, 11884k used, 349536k free, 15744k cached Jun 13 09:31:09 Mem: 30300k total, 29148k used, 1152k free, 396k buffers Jun 13 09:31:45 Cpu(s): 4.5% us, 25.8% sy, 0.0% ni, 0.0% id, 56.2% wa, 6.7% hi, 6.7% si Jun 13 11:32:23 caplink811 :) Jun 13 11:49:27 what's everybody's favourite torrent client for the nslu2, btw? ctorrent? rtorrent? py-bittorrent? enhanced-ctorrent? Jun 13 11:55:24 haven't found any which works yet :-\ Jun 13 11:57:53 py-bittorrent (e.g. bittorrent-curses) works great for me (or did until the latest release) Jun 13 11:58:11 right now enhanced-ctorrent seems to run fine Jun 13 11:58:28 but they all should works nicely, as far as I konw Jun 13 11:58:30 know Jun 13 14:45:24 hi Jun 13 14:45:30 alguien habla espaƱol ? Jun 13 17:35:53 hi, for upgrading OpenSLug 2.7 to 3.10 can I just follow the upgrade as from the wiki? Jun 13 17:36:23 ie, do a ipkg update/upgrade, change the feed and then run the reflash program + reboot ? Jun 13 17:47:36 hmmm, webinterface says usb stick is installed but it won't let me format it... Jun 13 17:47:43 and i can't find it by 'df' Jun 13 17:49:09 Cheef-Daniel: hi. (= just woke up. damn. i think i fucked up my slug last night. heheh. i tried flashing with di-nslu2.bin and now i get nothing. Jun 13 17:52:11 nothing? Jun 13 17:52:58 nope Jun 13 17:53:45 tried that thing with 10sec resetbutton? Jun 13 17:57:54 hld: that too Jun 13 17:58:42 ;/ Jun 13 17:58:48 hld: do i take out all the drives then run upslug2 -i , while it reboots. i plug the drive back? Jun 13 17:59:24 i did it with the sercomm tool since i use a windows box Jun 13 17:59:35 doh Jun 13 17:59:44 I used the sercomm too Jun 13 18:00:00 grmbl, that damn usb stick Jun 13 18:00:03 it flashes. so i guess it does see it. but i just ned to find the ip Jun 13 18:00:16 do ou tryed to boot without any drive attached? Jun 13 18:00:44 i tried flashing via the linksys browser. but since i only have a usb stick. it was in the second port Jun 13 18:01:00 Cheef-Daniel: let me (=. just unplug the power and power again right> Jun 13 18:01:17 ok Jun 13 18:02:01 status is orange. ethernet is green. Jun 13 18:02:05 cant ping ip. Jun 13 18:02:46 your ip settings are right? Jun 13 18:02:55 ya. Jun 13 18:03:52 when you boot without any drive/stick attached the nslu2 boots from the intrernal flash Jun 13 18:03:55 i guess i can try on another slug i bought. i bought 2 and gonna return one anyway (= Jun 13 18:04:21 Cheef-Daniel: i just booted with no drive at all. Jun 13 18:04:34 I think its nots the nslu it must be a software failure Jun 13 18:04:55 Cheef-Daniel: i flashed it wrong maybe? Jun 13 18:05:28 maybe or the ip settings are somehow scrambled Jun 13 18:05:42 damn. i followed the instruction. the only problem is that i only have a usb stick Jun 13 18:05:54 the instruction on http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/ ? Jun 13 18:06:15 Cheef-Daniel: ya. maybe. the thing is that i set the ip via the linksys interface. but then i upgrade firmware to d-i. wouldnt that clears the ip or something? Jun 13 18:06:21 ya. i followed that page Jun 13 18:09:44 the description says you should configure it over the linksys-pages Jun 13 18:10:07 you could try to restore the original Jun 13 18:10:50 but if i do it via linksys interface. i need a hdd in the first port. but i only have a usb stick and the linksys manual say dont use stickon port 1 Jun 13 18:11:08 how do i restore orig? use the firmware from linksys and upslug2? Jun 13 18:11:59 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/HomePage Jun 13 18:12:02 let me restore (= Jun 13 18:12:12 'Recover from a bad flash' Jun 13 18:12:17 ah Jun 13 18:13:35 how are you connected to the nslu2? Jun 13 18:13:52 rj45. Jun 13 18:14:37 between a router? Jun 13 18:14:44 nope. crossover Jun 13 18:15:10 then you should have no problems on the hardware site Jun 13 18:15:30 k Jun 13 18:17:24 recovering the linksys firmware. after that i go in and double check on the ip. then i am gonna use upslug2 to flash instead of the linksys interface this time. Jun 13 18:19:07 hmmm, linksys fw detects the usb stick correct Jun 13 18:19:15 unslung doesn't... any idea? Jun 13 18:22:44 ok. back to linksys. but the ip was no longer 192.168.1.77, it is set to the ip i was given. Jun 13 18:26:00 hld: on which port do you have the stick? Jun 13 18:27:43 Cheef-Daniel: i loaded my visor module, but /dev/ttyUSB0 doesnt exist.. it used to work. Jun 13 18:29:17 the ttyUSB0 is for a serial connection Jun 13 18:29:52 i have visor, usbserial module loaded. Jun 13 18:31:46 is your device listed with usbview? Jun 13 18:32:40 or lsusb Jun 13 18:32:41 lsusb doesnt even show it. Jun 13 18:33:04 what says dmesg Jun 13 18:33:19 nothing Jun 13 18:33:29 ok. the slug is ready (= Jun 13 18:34:03 when you replug, and loog again? Jun 13 18:34:07 look Jun 13 18:34:10 k Jun 13 18:35:38 dmesg shows nothing. )= damn Jun 13 18:37:15 which modules are loaded? Jun 13 18:37:26 visor, usbserial, usbcore Jun 13 18:40:37 hm I dont have usbcore Jun 13 18:40:53 your visor is on? Jun 13 18:41:36 ya Jun 13 18:42:35 is hotplug installed? Jun 13 18:42:39 i have udev Jun 13 18:43:12 lsusb shows when i press the sync button. but once it fails. lsub doesnt show it anymore Jun 13 18:46:04 maybe this page helps http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_USB_sync_for_Palm_PDAs_with_Evolution_2.0_and_udev Jun 13 18:46:12 k Jun 13 19:12:29 deadcat: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Handspring-Visor.html Jun 13 20:39:54 (= the slug is not running the debian installer. but i only have 128MB.. haha Jun 13 22:52:11 mika_ :) Jun 13 22:56:14 does the slug memory double as well when i overclock? Jun 13 22:56:44 nevermind. only 32mb Jun 13 22:59:22 Yes Memory is stil 32 mb.. only clockspeed is 266 mhz.. Jun 13 22:59:59 ah.. for some reason i thought it was 64mb (= Jun 13 23:04:53 If you use unslug you get a swap partition .. so not realy a problem.. Jun 13 23:05:13 i am gonna install debianslug Jun 14 00:15:35 when you shutdown -h now, does the LED go off? Jun 14 00:19:12 re Jun 14 00:19:38 re? Jun 14 00:19:42 anyone saw brasilia vs croatia Jun 14 00:19:48 re <-> i'm back **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jun 14 02:59:56 2006