**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 25 02:59:56 2006 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 25 03:54:30 2006 Jun 25 07:16:13 is it recommended to install to a usb stick? in terms of life span Jun 25 14:22:15 Hey Naib Jun 25 14:23:05 hi Jun 25 14:24:26 u manage to flash yr slug? Jun 25 14:26:11 nope Jun 25 14:26:32 i tried using the dd command that puts it to start upgrade mode Jun 25 14:26:38 but now its stuck in that till i get it flashed Jun 25 14:26:48 oh dear Jun 25 14:26:50 i tried that as someone suggested it may not actually be in upgrade mode Jun 25 14:27:00 i tried getting into RedBoot with no luck Jun 25 14:27:08 so i think im looking for a JTAG programmer Jun 25 14:28:02 would be good to know how it originally didn't allow to be re-flashed Jun 25 14:30:25 yup Jun 25 14:30:43 the only changes since last time is turbo slug, but i think ive done it since Jun 25 14:30:47 then the changes we did Jun 25 14:31:11 but what we did was on the HD and nothing to do with the flahs Jun 25 14:33:28 yup Jun 25 14:33:31 oh Jun 25 14:33:33 that was something Jun 25 14:33:40 i did get the drive formatted Jun 25 14:33:44 after a reboot Jun 25 14:33:58 still nothing to do with the flash Jun 25 14:34:15 you did make sure it was the drive it detected (and formatted) and not the flash Jun 25 14:34:36 When I did use Unslung I use to have a problem where at install it would detect the flash and not the HD Jun 25 14:35:01 yes it was the HD Jun 25 14:38:34 it has been fine for me Jun 25 14:38:49 and i right thinking i need to find someone to flash it for me via JTAG? Jun 25 14:41:44 I really don't want to say Jun 25 14:41:59 I would try to go the linux route only because I know it works Jun 25 14:42:19 but you have gone th e windows route and you say it worked so I dont know Jun 25 14:42:48 you sure when you unslung it was unslung and you wern't filling up yr flash - that would cause problems Jun 25 14:42:55 yup Jun 25 14:43:00 it would've screwed a while ago Jun 25 14:43:05 it said it on the web page Jun 25 14:43:10 k Jun 25 14:43:10 and also when you logged in via telnet Jun 25 14:43:25 and that changed if the drive was disconnected before booting Jun 25 14:44:13 i tried to run knoppix on my desktop and my server Jun 25 14:44:17 with no avail Jun 25 14:44:17 true, oh well football now Jun 25 14:44:31 and tried to isntall FC5 on my server Jun 25 14:44:35 but it wouldn't Jun 25 14:45:14 would it be worth finding someone to try it linux, and if they can JTAG, they could do that if it dont work Jun 25 14:46:04 Reedy_Boy: A) try the full reset procedure (check the wiki) to try to get it to reset to the defaults. B) Add a serial port to your NSLU2 before you search for JTAG; that will let you see what it is doing as well as control Redboot. C) If it can bink the LEDs, Redboot is probably ok and it should be recoverable without JTAG. Jun 25 14:46:30 cheers mwester Jun 25 14:46:39 does the serial require soldering? Jun 25 14:46:48 Yes, but less than JTAG Jun 25 14:46:52 k Jun 25 14:47:05 is the full reset resetting the conf area? Jun 25 14:48:11 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/ResetSysConf Jun 25 14:48:12 I don't know; I haven't ever erased the full conf area. But redboot will run without it; I just don't know what IP it will use. 192.168.0.1 actually sticks in my mind as an address I've seen displayed by redboot on the NSLU2 Jun 25 14:48:40 yeah Jun 25 14:48:47 Reboot and the NSLU2 will recreate the SysConf area. Remember that all the settings will be lost and the IP address will now reset to 192.168.1.77 Jun 25 14:49:08 Well, there you go. It should be waiting for you at .77 Jun 25 14:49:10 i just couldn't/can't get it to go into redboot (i have before) Jun 25 14:50:02 Are you meaning telnet to redboot? Jun 25 14:50:13 yup Jun 25 14:50:20 i used the tcl script before successfully Jun 25 14:50:43 The auto-sensing 100MBit hubs are a real problem too. Jun 25 14:50:54 with it connected straight to my pc, i tried pinging 192.168.0.1 Jun 25 14:50:59 and setting it to 100mbps Full Duplex Jun 25 14:53:36 ill grab a laptop and try Jun 25 14:53:45 It might be at 192.168.1.77 too, but I suggest you keep trying, or add a serial port to the unit. JTAG is probably not necessary if it can do anything with the LEDs. (Also check your network cable!) Jun 25 14:54:05 bbiab Jun 25 14:54:14 k Jun 25 14:54:15 thanks Jun 25 14:54:23 ive tried a crossover, a straight through, a straight through with a crossover plug Jun 25 15:02:32 what do you mean my doing something with the LED's mwester? Jun 25 15:10:12 crossover plug <-- That doesn't exist. Jun 25 15:10:46 it does Jun 25 15:11:04 turns a straight through cable into a crossover Jun 25 15:30:27 mwester, about the cat5 cable what is beter to use straight or crossover.. because i have the problem when a lot of data must be transvert , the nslu wil be freeze.. and most with sftp with samba it is not so much Jun 25 15:32:15 are you using a router/switch? Jun 25 15:32:24 as there was someone here a couple of days ago Jun 25 15:32:28 Mika_: If your cable is constructed well, and the hardware in your two computers is working, there is no difference between a crossover and straight after the first few seconds (when the two systems must negotiate the "crossover-ness" of the cable). Jun 25 15:32:41 and they had a crossover to a switch, and it caused it to freeze Jun 25 15:33:07 In general it is best to avoid crossover cables except between two computers without intervening hardware Jun 25 15:33:13 yup Jun 25 15:34:21 im on my second cable, trying the 2 ip ranges into upgrade mode from ugutil Jun 25 15:37:59 grrr Jun 25 15:38:02 thats not working Jun 25 15:38:22 mwester, it is conected to a linksys wag54g and befor it was on a older wag54 there was noproblem after the new wag54 i got this problem.. but i wil change the cable to try if it is beter Jun 25 15:38:35 and im not sure if i can get telnet to redboot, as it wouldnt ping Jun 25 15:38:39 and the tcl script wont work Jun 25 15:40:08 Reedy_Boy: step 1 is to ping it; after than you can try for the full telnet. Do you have an old 10Mbit hub? That will give you more of the window, as much of the 100Mb hardware takes so much time to figure out the speed and polarity of the link. Jun 25 15:40:19 nope Jun 25 15:40:29 i have 2 100mbit, and ive tried with and without Jun 25 15:40:40 i tried a 1ms ping thingy in windows Jun 25 15:40:43 can you force yr router to be 10Mb ? Jun 25 15:40:55 dont think so Jun 25 15:41:02 Mike_: Do change the cable to an ordinary non-crossover cable; that's the correct way to do it -- but that might not make any difference as the hardware should compensate for the incorrect polarity of the cable. Jun 25 15:41:03 well no Jun 25 15:41:29 Well, windows is perhaps one of the limiting factors -- try using Linux of some sort! Jun 25 15:41:37 oh, i have Jun 25 15:42:06 i cant get knoppix to boot on my pc, or my server, it booted on my dads laptop but no network, i tried to install FC5 on my server, with no avail Jun 25 15:42:14 i have a different laptop, so i could try and get this to run knoppix Jun 25 15:43:04 Reedy, try d/l a Ubuntu CD/DVD iso. Jun 25 15:43:14 fc5 installs on almost anything; I'm surprised by that! And knoppix too -what kind of PC do you have (it's not an iMac, is it? :-D Jun 25 15:43:18 Their install CD/DVD is actually a LiveCD as well so you should boot fine Jun 25 15:43:20 ive got one Jun 25 15:43:25 ubuntu Jun 25 15:43:26 if you do not want to install linux. Jun 25 15:43:33 knoppix worked on my desktop before Jun 25 15:44:01 i do remember looking into it on my server, and at the time, the kernel for the graphics and Northbridge/chipset had only just been release Jun 25 15:44:07 and i wasnt recompiling the kernel Jun 25 15:44:20 That's really unusual -- I carry a knoppix CD around with me for work; I've booted data-center class servers from it! Jun 25 15:44:21 suppose i could try ubuntu live... Jun 25 15:44:25 LOL Jun 25 15:44:34 try one of the latests distro's they are pretty upto date Jun 25 15:44:47 knoppix i have 4.0.1 i think Jun 25 15:45:22 upto 5 now Jun 25 15:46:10 I personally carry the new Ubuntu CD around as a LiveCD (for repairs) so that if things go well I can then just install that Jun 25 15:46:11 knoppix 4.0.2 is what i have Jun 25 15:46:16 as well as Pentoo for security Jun 25 15:46:29 and ive got a 5.10 live cd for Ubuntu Jun 25 15:47:04 suppose ill try and get this laptop to boot from one of em Jun 25 15:47:50 any preferences? Jun 25 15:47:57 as you lot are gonna have to talk me through ti Jun 25 15:47:57 :D Jun 25 15:48:52 either-or really Jun 25 15:48:55 Reedy_Boy: what I meant by the LEDs is that if you have noticable activity (i.e. blinking or flashing) on other than the network LED, redboot is probably running. If you have a totally bricked NSLU2 you will not see any changes in LED state (beyond the Network LED -- that's connected to the network hardware). Jun 25 15:48:56 use what you have Jun 25 15:49:34 ubuntu for a chang Jun 25 15:50:06 mwester: its flashing red/green on the status Jun 25 15:50:11 does it come with Upslug2 ? Jun 25 15:50:18 dnno Jun 25 15:50:22 if not you can d/l the binary Jun 25 15:50:25 aye Jun 25 15:50:38 and before i told it the dd command to make it boot into upgrade mode, it was booting up fine Jun 25 15:50:44 just something went wrong putting xinetd on Jun 25 15:50:50 yer... Jun 25 15:50:57 "loves my OpenSlug" Jun 25 15:51:03 shut up Jun 25 15:51:03 :P Jun 25 15:51:11 as niab will be able to confirm with it all Jun 25 15:51:17 "loves my NSLU2 with a serial port on it" Jun 25 15:51:26 just go away! Jun 25 15:51:28 :P Jun 25 15:51:32 i had 2 Jun 25 15:52:08 one i sold when the cr2032 holder clip broke Jun 25 15:52:17 ubuntu is booting Jun 25 15:52:22 http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=116564&package_id=164337 Jun 25 15:52:28 pre-packages upslug2 Jun 25 15:52:31 right Jun 25 15:52:37 when this is booted ill get in on the internet Jun 25 15:52:59 wired? Jun 25 15:53:17 aye Jun 25 15:53:45 cool so as long as yr NIC isn't some outlandish card internet will be easy Jun 25 15:53:46 but i just plugged it into my router after id done its DHCP config Jun 25 15:53:58 its the built in one... Jun 25 15:54:18 brb 2nd half of match Jun 25 15:54:23 lol Jun 25 15:55:47 mwester, you haven't abandoned me aswell have you? Jun 25 16:02:12 god ubuntu takes loads lonfwe than knoppix Jun 25 16:05:11 and no damn network settings Jun 25 16:07:00 Syste, > admin > networking Reedy_Boy Jun 25 16:07:12 yeah Jun 25 16:07:14 i did find that Jun 25 16:07:19 just its all greyed out Jun 25 16:09:29 Strange.. ccan you not try a other network card in that pc ? Jun 25 16:09:41 its a laptop Jun 25 16:09:48 i only have a pcmcia wireless Jun 25 16:09:51 or a usb lan Jun 25 16:10:50 usb to lan ? Jun 25 16:10:52 oh Jun 25 16:10:53 aye Jun 25 16:10:59 yes, somethings come up now Jun 25 16:12:34 can enable it Jun 25 16:14:25 its just soooo slow! Jun 25 16:18:35 ive given up Jun 25 16:18:39 running knoppix Jun 25 16:18:41 loads better Jun 25 16:20:28 yay Jun 25 16:20:36 knoppix up in less than 5, internet ready Jun 25 16:21:45 just need someone to help me Jun 25 16:25:56 got it downloaded Jun 25 16:31:02 suppose at least i know i can get knoppix up quickly when there is some help Jun 25 16:40:31 so u have upslug2 d/led then? Jun 25 16:43:17 yay! Jun 25 16:43:25 yes on knoppix as ubuntu was too slow Jun 25 16:43:37 and ive reconfigured teh eth for .0.2 to contact the slug Jun 25 16:43:59 its extracted @ /home/knoppix/upslug2-11/upslug2-11 Jun 25 16:44:25 its extracted @ /home/knoppix/upslug2-11 now Jun 25 16:47:19 im gonna have to go and eat soon Jun 25 16:53:08 kk will b quick Jun 25 16:53:52 right in a terminal "cd" to the directory where u extracted upslug2 Jun 25 16:53:57 and type ./upslug2 Jun 25 16:54:01 just to check it works Jun 25 16:54:22 it will complain it cannot find a NSLU2 if it does wor Jun 25 16:54:39 otherwise it will complain abt missing libary's (bad-ish) Jun 25 16:54:41 i was already there in termnial Jun 25 16:54:48 lol Jun 25 16:55:05 jrb@Fluid ~ $ upslug2 Jun 25 16:55:05 broadcast: Network is down: transmit error [N12NSLU2Upgrade9SendErrorE] Jun 25 16:55:12 errm Jun 25 16:55:14 should see something like that Jun 25 16:55:20 no such file or directory Jun 25 16:55:25 pwd Jun 25 16:55:30 sudo upslug2 ? Jun 25 16:55:36 lol Jun 25 16:55:38 ooops Jun 25 16:55:43 one directory too high Jun 25 16:55:46 lol Jun 25 16:56:08 still same Jun 25 16:56:17 what is the output of "ls" Jun 25 16:56:26 Evil Devil: gives command not found Jun 25 16:56:46 its ok u r in Knoppix, u r root (sudo is "runas root" command) Jun 25 16:56:48 ls gives various files Jun 25 16:56:54 is upslug in there? Jun 25 16:56:59 upslug2 Jun 25 16:57:07 closest is upslug2.cc Jun 25 16:57:19 Errr, that looks like a source file Jun 25 16:57:28 is there by any change a MAKE file as well Jun 25 16:57:37 there is a install Jun 25 16:57:49 makefile.am and makefile.in Jun 25 16:57:55 yer that is source, hang on Jun 25 16:58:01 k Jun 25 16:58:39 type "./configure Jun 25 16:59:15 with the quotes? Jun 25 16:59:20 nope Jun 25 16:59:25 lol Jun 25 16:59:29 didnt think so Jun 25 16:59:35 its doing stuff Jun 25 16:59:46 creating makefile Jun 25 16:59:48 ./configure && make && ./upslug2 Jun 25 16:59:50 creating config.h Jun 25 16:59:51 good Jun 25 16:59:57 now make? Jun 25 17:00:01 yup Jun 25 17:00:19 EvilDevil, this way the step's can be seen and apreciated Jun 25 17:00:27 lol Jun 25 17:00:31 "loves my emerge upslug2" Jun 25 17:00:35 work Jun 25 17:00:39 working even Jun 25 17:00:52 back to prompt Jun 25 17:00:58 ./upslug2 Jun 25 17:01:01 k Jun 25 17:01:03 with the DOT-slash Jun 25 17:01:06 was jsut gonna ask Jun 25 17:01:14 you should get Jun 25 17:01:15 woo Jun 25 17:01:17 got that error Jun 25 17:01:19 broadcast: Network is down: transmit error [N12NSLU2Upgrade9SendErrorE] Jun 25 17:01:26 no Jun 25 17:01:29 similar Jun 25 17:01:33 Operation not permitted: error using device [N12NSLU2Upgrade9WireErrorE] Jun 25 17:01:36 yup Jun 25 17:01:44 2nd one Jun 25 17:01:48 eth0: Operation not permitted: error using device [N12NSLU2Upgrade9WireErrorE] Jun 25 17:01:49 right try "sudo ./upslug2" Jun 25 17:02:00 yer you need to be root to use it Jun 25 17:02:19 shit, i aint downloaded a bin file for the slug... Jun 25 17:02:23 suppose i can do that in a few mins Jun 25 17:02:25 LoL Jun 25 17:02:39 is it on yr windows partition of the comp u r on? Jun 25 17:02:48 nope Jun 25 17:03:09 no NSLU2 machines found in upgrade mode Jun 25 17:03:19 goodgood Jun 25 17:03:32 you have a working UPSLUG2 command Jun 25 17:03:34 shall i pause and grab the file from linksys? Jun 25 17:03:37 get the install image Jun 25 17:03:40 lol yer Jun 25 17:03:42 aye Jun 25 17:03:49 and put it in the dir with upslug? Jun 25 17:04:04 yer will make things easyier Jun 25 17:05:08 a linksys firmware would be better wouldnt it? Jun 25 17:05:28 it gets you to a known working state Jun 25 17:05:39 k Jun 25 17:05:40 you can then use the Linksys page to upload Unslung if you want Jun 25 17:05:48 thanks for all your efforts btw Jun 25 17:05:49 yeah Jun 25 17:05:57 2mb down Jun 25 17:06:01 3.5 Jun 25 17:06:07 lol np, I am staring at Python code so a break helps Jun 25 17:06:12 4.5 Jun 25 17:06:16 lol Jun 25 17:06:20 5.5 Jun 25 17:06:33 6.2 Jun 25 17:06:35 done Jun 25 17:07:11 cool Jun 25 17:07:34 in upslug dir Jun 25 17:07:37 right is it unzipped to the same dir as upslug2 Jun 25 17:07:38 kk Jun 25 17:07:44 open another terminal Jun 25 17:07:49 shall i reconfigure eth for slug? Jun 25 17:07:56 not yet Jun 25 17:07:58 k Jun 25 17:08:00 err wot u mean Jun 25 17:08:07 well, i had it statically set for the slug Jun 25 17:08:11 its on dynamic atm Jun 25 17:08:17 so needs resetting to manual for the slug Jun 25 17:08:20 u mean yr router Jun 25 17:08:27 no, eth0 on the laptop Jun 25 17:08:32 im doing it directly to the slug Jun 25 17:08:47 should be fine Jun 25 17:09:00 open a 2nd terminal Jun 25 17:09:06 and type "ifconfig" Jun 25 17:09:15 is there a "lo" and an "eth0" entry ? Jun 25 17:09:16 aye Jun 25 17:09:19 there was before Jun 25 17:09:38 good (just checking name of interface, mine is ra0 and it makes a difference) Jun 25 17:09:46 right type this Jun 25 17:09:54 route add 192.168.0.1 eth0 Jun 25 17:10:05 its on .2 now Jun 25 17:10:14 thats ok Jun 25 17:10:34 what this is doing is allowing yr machine to get data from 0.1 route Jun 25 17:10:43 SIOCADDRT: Operation not permitted Jun 25 17:10:46 sudo Jun 25 17:10:51 ahh, yer Jun 25 17:10:52 i know, i do have some linux experience :D Jun 25 17:10:57 lol Jun 25 17:11:01 sudo and that command? Jun 25 17:11:04 yup Jun 25 17:11:13 done i thinks Jun 25 17:11:17 prompt didnt say ought Jun 25 17:11:19 good Jun 25 17:11:36 Linux/UNIX has a phisophy of only saying IF there is a problem Jun 25 17:11:42 yeah Jun 25 17:11:44 if it just returned to a prompt it worked Jun 25 17:11:46 tis good Jun 25 17:11:48 aye Jun 25 17:12:03 right the next command you have to be ready with CTRL-C Jun 25 17:12:15 oh Jun 25 17:12:18 nooo, not that Jun 25 17:12:32 lol Jun 25 17:12:33 go on Jun 25 17:12:50 when you type this next command reboot (power on & off the SLUG) watch the terminal UNTIL you see it reporting REBOOT prompt Jun 25 17:13:02 will take between 5sec and 10sec from reboot Jun 25 17:13:07 ok Jun 25 17:13:25 when you see the Reboot prompt you have 2sec to press CTRL-C to interupt the booting process Jun 25 17:13:29 ready Jun 25 17:13:29 k Jun 25 17:13:34 aye Jun 25 17:13:41 sudo arping -f 192.168.0.1; telnet 192.168.0.1 9000 Jun 25 17:13:45 ah Jun 25 17:13:55 then in yr own time reboot the SLUG and get ready with CTRL-C Jun 25 17:14:30 errm Jun 25 17:14:40 sudo: arping: command not found Jun 25 17:14:53 sudo /sbin/arping -f 192.168.0.1; telnet 192.168.0.1 9000 Jun 25 17:14:57 lol Jun 25 17:15:31 command not found Jun 25 17:15:42 WooT!!!! Jun 25 17:15:50 ? Jun 25 17:15:57 type "su" Jun 25 17:16:10 root@ Jun 25 17:16:18 good Jun 25 17:16:21 type "arping" Jun 25 17:16:30 not found Jun 25 17:16:41 locate arping Jun 25 17:17:24 warning databse /var/cache/locate/locatedb is more than 8 days old Jun 25 17:17:36 thats fine Jun 25 17:17:50 has it found it? Jun 25 17:17:59 has it outputted anything? Jun 25 17:18:04 nope Jun 25 17:18:09 just that Jun 25 17:18:14 then new command line Jun 25 17:18:18 try Jun 25 17:18:39 try /usr/bin/tcp-tools/arping Jun 25 17:19:22 ' /usr/bin/tcp-tools/arping Jun 25 17:19:26 yer Jun 25 17:19:30 gives no such file or directory Jun 25 17:19:42 FOR THE LOVE OF!!!! Jun 25 17:19:50 cd / && find | grep arping Jun 25 17:19:55 and wait a bit Jun 25 17:20:00 going to have to go brute-force Jun 25 17:20:36 lol Jun 25 17:20:39 hang on Jun 25 17:20:41 try this Jun 25 17:20:47 cd /usr/bin/tcp-tools Jun 25 17:21:24 no such file or dir Jun 25 17:21:42 I am going to blow up Knoppix server!!!! Jun 25 17:21:50 you need the arping command Jun 25 17:22:00 try the find command I posted Jun 25 17:22:09 ill d/l knoppix and boot in in VMplayer Jun 25 17:22:19 i am Jun 25 17:22:20 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knoppix_STD Jun 25 17:22:25 TCP tools located in /usr/bin/tcp-tools/ include arpfetch, arping, arpspoof, arpwatch, despoof, excalibur, file2cable, fragroute, gspoof, hopfake, hunt, ipmagic, lcrzoex, macof, packetto 1.10 and 2.0pre3, netsed, packETH, tcpkill and tcpreplay Jun 25 17:22:40 and its not on yr Knoppix? Jun 25 17:22:44 like you just tried Jun 25 17:24:35 i can download a arping source Jun 25 17:24:40 http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Networking/Arping-13515.shtml Jun 25 17:24:53 that find didnt find ought Jun 25 17:25:02 if needs be, but knoppix really should have arping Jun 25 17:25:07 yer get the source Jun 25 17:25:13 or d/l newer knoppix Jun 25 17:25:20 V-4 might not of had it Jun 25 17:25:29 as that wiki says, it has it Jun 25 17:25:36 what V4? Jun 25 17:25:44 it might be taliking abt V5 Jun 25 17:25:59 hmm Jun 25 17:26:12 oh Jun 25 17:26:16 its the security distro Jun 25 17:27:05 errm Jun 25 17:27:07 its tea time Jun 25 17:27:08 ahh kk Jun 25 17:27:20 after, do you think we should just use what've i got, and download the source? Jun 25 17:27:22 kk, yr choice if its yr tea you could kick off a Knoppix d/l Jun 25 17:27:42 yeah, but its gonna take a few hours Jun 25 17:27:48 but i will start pulling a v5 Jun 25 17:28:20 if that isnt done Jun 25 17:28:21 kk, do it from src then after tyr tea Jun 25 17:28:26 k Jun 25 17:28:29 was just gonna say Jun 25 17:28:30 thanks! Jun 25 17:28:48 maybe up to an hour... ugh! Jun 25 17:28:57 oooh Jun 25 17:29:04 reckons 30 mins to pull knoppix Jun 25 17:29:06 * Reedy_Boy is away Jun 25 17:29:15 pulling at 382 kb/s Jun 25 17:29:21 lol Jun 25 18:01:33 i am having trouble getting the pwc webcam drive to load. it compiles fine on my debian/nslu2 with kernel 2.6.15-1-nslu2 Jun 25 18:03:49 can you modprobe it Jun 25 18:03:59 no. it gives error message Jun 25 18:04:16 ... Jun 25 18:04:19 pwc: Unknown symbol video_devdata Jun 25 18:04:19 pwc: Unknown symbol video_unregister_device Jun 25 18:04:19 pwc: Unknown symbol video_device_alloc Jun 25 18:04:19 pwc: Unknown symbol video_register_device Jun 25 18:04:19 pwc: Unknown symbol v4l2_ioctl_names Jun 25 18:04:21 pwc: Unknown symbol video_usercopy Jun 25 18:04:24 pwc: Unknown symbol video_device_release Jun 25 18:05:51 output of lsmod Jun 25 18:05:59 not showing Jun 25 18:06:20 but is there a videodev module listed? Jun 25 18:06:31 * Reedy_Boy is back Jun 25 18:06:37 no video related Jun 25 18:06:45 modprobe videodev Jun 25 18:07:27 no such module name Jun 25 18:07:48 FATAL: Error inserting pwc (/lib/modules/2.6.15-1-nslu2/kernel/drivers/usb/media/pwc.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) Jun 25 18:10:56 grrr Jun 25 18:11:01 arping wont compile Jun 25 18:11:04 need v1 i think Jun 25 18:11:09 right get the other knoppix Jun 25 18:11:30 well, before i do Jun 25 18:11:36 do we know it has arping? Jun 25 18:11:41 i know the security distro does Jun 25 18:12:05 deadcat, I just ipkg installed pwc and modprobed it, these are the new modules in the kernel Jun 25 18:12:20 pwc Jun 25 18:12:20 compat_ioctl32 Jun 25 18:12:20 videodev Jun 25 18:12:31 so you are going to need to compile videodev as well Jun 25 18:12:44 Naib: but i am using debian's linux-headers to compile it though. does that make a diff? Jun 25 18:12:54 i dont have ipkg. Jun 25 18:13:36 debian still uses the same kernel source as every other linux distro, if one distro needs videodev using debian isn't suddenly going to stop the kernel from needing it Jun 25 18:14:01 if you compiled pwc then you can compile videodev Jun 25 18:14:05 i cant find anywere that says knopix 5 has arping Jun 25 18:14:09 i got my source from http://www.saillard.org/linux/pwc/files/ Jun 25 18:14:17 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knoppix_STD - That does, but would it have everything else? Jun 25 18:14:28 yes Jun 25 18:14:34 Naib: you have a link for videodev? Jun 25 18:14:41 err no soz Jun 25 18:14:45 doh Jun 25 18:14:50 might be part of the kernel Jun 25 18:14:51 that yes to me naib? Jun 25 18:15:01 so re-compile the kernel with videodev support Jun 25 18:15:03 Naib: ah. my x86 do have videodev Jun 25 18:15:11 Reedyboy, yes and yes Jun 25 18:15:16 lol Jun 25 18:15:24 so i need to download that rather than the v5? Jun 25 18:15:44 V5 comes in two flavours STD (to fit on a CD) or DVD version Jun 25 18:15:53 aye Jun 25 18:15:53 Naib: damn. i guess i will have to compile my own kernel then. )=... i dont know what i need to do, since i have to flash it into memory or something? Jun 25 18:15:56 i got the CD one... Jun 25 18:16:16 oops my mistake Jun 25 18:16:21 you need the STD one Jun 25 18:16:25 from that link Jun 25 18:16:27 bollocks Jun 25 18:16:44 4.0GB Jun 25 18:16:46 STD != standard == security Tools distrobution Jun 25 18:16:47 lol Jun 25 18:16:51 oh Jun 25 18:16:53 lol Jun 25 18:17:20 ftp://ftp.sin.khk.be/mirror/knoppix-std/knoppix-std-0.1.iso Jun 25 18:17:23 only 500meg Jun 25 18:17:29 Naib: what do i need in order to compile an Arm kernel on my x86? have you done it before? do you use debian/nslu2? Jun 25 18:18:06 ah Jun 25 18:18:07 cheers Jun 25 18:18:32 Reedy_boy err I cant see if Knoppix-std has gcc with it Jun 25 18:18:35 its gonn have eaten 1200mb of my peak time bandwith Jun 25 18:18:38 oh Jun 25 18:18:40 fucking hell Jun 25 18:18:44 it should but not to sure Jun 25 18:19:00 did ubuntu boot? Jun 25 18:19:07 http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en/distribuce_detail.php?id_distribuce=42 Jun 25 18:19:16 yes, it was just as slow as hell Jun 25 18:19:23 gcc 3.2.3 Jun 25 18:19:28 good! Jun 25 18:19:35 so it will be ok? Jun 25 18:19:37 hopefully Jun 25 18:19:39 yer Jun 25 18:19:48 i am using apache1.3+libapache-gallery-perl, its pretty slow: http://gallery.sshonly.sytes.net:81/2006/ Jun 25 18:20:05 i may aswelll turn the laptop off for the moment Jun 25 18:20:29 k Jun 25 18:20:36 ill boot it in windows, and get the stuff saved onto the hard drive for easier access Jun 25 18:20:39 saves having to download em Jun 25 18:23:00 thank god for download managers! Jun 25 18:23:13 Naib: what do i need in order to compile an Arm kernel on my x86? have you done it before? do you use debian/nslu2? Jun 25 18:24:05 err I use OpenSlug, but if you want yr own custom kernel you will have to compile the kernel from source - but modify the build process before hand to enable videodev support Jun 25 18:24:34 BUT their should be a kernel-module for debian Jun 25 18:24:42 you should just be able to "apt-get" it Jun 25 18:25:05 Naib: ya.. i can manage to build the kernel with the stuff i need. but what about the initrd stuff? Jun 25 18:25:54 that shouldn't change you are not including anything new into the kernel are you? you are making a kernel-module that will be inserted into a running kernel Jun 25 18:26:27 Naib: actually i do want to include new stuff to the kernel. i watn to add the grsecurity patch to it. Jun 25 18:26:38 initrd only exist to provide extra things to the kernel at boot-time that were not available withing the kernel (ie before the filesystem is mounted) Jun 25 18:26:45 or like RAID stuff Jun 25 18:26:48 or ... Jun 25 18:27:22 ahh, well I dunno then. I have never liked initrd Jun 25 18:27:41 Naib: they cyrius.com guy explains it that its very difficult.. )= Jun 25 18:44:08 whats the lifespan if i use a 1 gig usb stick as my root filesystem? Jun 25 18:44:15 lifespan of the 1gig stick Jun 25 18:44:47 depends Jun 25 18:44:52 is it a cheapie or a higher quality, Jun 25 18:45:00 as higher quality has more read/write cycles Jun 25 18:45:04 cruzer micro sandisk Jun 25 18:45:14 i gotta go and walk the dogs Jun 25 18:45:24 naib - 50 mins to go it says, and i need to get my hair cut after Jun 25 18:45:34 so i may not get it done tonight Jun 25 18:45:50 if you've got a msn addy, could you send me it via pricate message on here? Jun 25 18:46:06 then i can catch you tommorow as i prob wont get it done today Jun 25 18:46:07 cheers Jun 25 18:46:12 * Reedy_Boy has gone to walk the dogs! Jun 25 21:01:31 hey naib Jun 25 21:01:36 hi Jun 25 21:02:08 u got it working? Jun 25 21:02:17 well, yes and no Jun 25 21:02:26 lol I hate that kind of reply Jun 25 21:02:33 ill explain Jun 25 21:02:44 the newer knoppix is loads faster, but has no arping Jun 25 21:03:11 the STD has arping, but none of the file browsing things, and doesnt seem to like my network card Jun 25 21:03:15 as its an older knoppix Jun 25 21:03:42 so im gonna try and put the arping into knoppix Jun 25 21:03:48 but first i need libnet Jun 25 21:04:00 oh dear the pain Jun 25 21:04:11 are you being sarcastic...? Jun 25 21:04:28 no, this is aquard, dependancy's are hell Jun 25 21:04:35 Ill quickly see if PING can be used Jun 25 21:04:41 k Jun 25 21:04:47 thanks Jun 25 21:04:54 arPING has some advanages (but alot of disadvantages) over ping Jun 25 21:05:31 i aint got much time, but if needed, i can work out how to get libnet and arping installed, then i can be good for tommorow night to try and get it all doen Jun 25 21:05:37 the new Knoppix does not have arping at all? Jun 25 21:05:53 nope Jun 25 21:05:57 not in the cd version Jun 25 21:05:59 the DVD might Jun 25 21:06:04 so i will download that overnight Jun 25 21:06:09 why do you need arp ? Jun 25 21:06:15 for upslug Jun 25 21:06:26 well to intercept the NLSU2 bootup Jun 25 21:06:48 to kick off telnet 9000 at the right point - ie when the NSLU2 becomes active Jun 25 21:06:55 I don't know if ping on its own is enough Jun 25 21:07:13 lol Jun 25 21:07:21 why do you not install ubuntu at a harddisk partition then ? Jun 25 21:07:33 because i have use it also that way Jun 25 21:07:41 if it turns out not to be, we can turn this into a wiki article - Upslug on Knoppix Jun 25 21:07:48 LoL Jun 25 21:08:04 ok so now i understand :) Jun 25 21:08:08 some ppl don't want to have linux, but the thing is getting ht eNSLU2 into upgrade is easier in linux Jun 25 21:08:09 lol Jun 25 21:08:22 yes much easyer Jun 25 21:08:28 yeah, ive been meaning to get an older pc or laptop for my own usage for this sorta stuff Jun 25 21:08:42 but i haven't, so i cant really just install ubuntu on my mums laptop Jun 25 21:09:07 knoppix is debian-based right? Jun 25 21:09:18 that rings a bell Jun 25 21:09:41 Knoppix is a Live Linux CD based on Debian GNU/Linux Jun 25 21:09:47 is it not porsble to make a small booddisk with upslug ? just like a kismet cd that is 50 mb en based on slackware Jun 25 21:09:48 the dvd version may/should have arping in it Jun 25 21:10:00 or Damn Small Linux.. Jun 25 21:10:13 Mika_, that is a good idea, have the image available at the wiki as well. Jun 25 21:10:23 yeah Jun 25 21:10:25 shouldn't need much Jun 25 21:10:26 alot of net drivers Jun 25 21:10:29 lol Jun 25 21:10:41 ARPing, telnet, Upslug2 + dependancy's Jun 25 21:11:08 it would be worth it Jun 25 21:11:15 something like knoppix stripped down Jun 25 21:11:19 but with the other stuff built in Jun 25 21:11:23 just checked my system I do not actually have ARPing installed (as a descrete package) Jun 25 21:11:42 I have iputils that provides its own version Jun 25 21:13:25 hmm Jun 25 21:13:37 it seems it would be a good idea some small distro with the extra stuff Jun 25 21:14:30 * Reedy_Boy grumbles Jun 25 21:14:34 libnet wont install Jun 25 21:15:20 Mika.... Jun 25 21:15:28 yes Jun 25 21:15:31 kismet looks like it may have arping and gcc.... Jun 25 21:15:54 http://www.slax.org/doc_customize.php#modifyiso Jun 25 21:16:18 cool Jun 25 21:16:20 thanks Jun 25 21:16:24 i dont know let me find the livecd or ask bigred in #wlnl Jun 25 21:16:45 he makes the livecd with kismet Jun 25 21:16:49 ah Jun 25 21:16:54 errm, ive gotta be going Jun 25 21:17:03 if you could let me know i'd appreciate it Jun 25 21:17:19 im not at college tommorow, just got a driving lesson, so ill message you if your about Jun 25 21:17:22 thanks for the idea! Jun 25 21:17:29 cheers for the help naib! Jun 25 21:17:58 np, Jun 25 21:18:13 good night Jun 25 21:18:16 Need to get you a distro with the needed commands looks like it should work Jun 25 21:18:40 the kismet may only be missing upslug Jun 25 21:18:42 cya Jun 25 21:19:10 drop me an email to postmaster@re3dyb0y.force9.co.uk please if you find ough! Jun 25 21:19:11 ought! Jun 25 21:22:44 read this : http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Make_Your_Own_Linux_LiveCD_Easily Jun 25 21:22:50 oww he is out Jun 25 21:23:35 lol Jun 25 21:23:50 still might be worth knocking together a liveCD Jun 25 21:24:38 i think the last link is much easyer it is based at debiam and a installer build it for you Jun 25 21:24:51 s/debiam/debian Jun 25 21:25:25 yer. make it a really cut-down liveCD Jun 25 21:25:43 sorry Naib what do you mean Jun 25 21:25:59 Knoppix all well and good but it is like 700meg, which when you want something to work can take some time to d/l Jun 25 21:26:42 I mean take knoppix (from that link) and gut it completely, make it command-line only proving what is needed to re-flash the NSLU2 in a minimal linux environement Jun 25 21:27:02 which is Jun 25 21:27:02 1) drivers, 2) arping, 3) telnet, 4) upslug2 Jun 25 21:27:12 plus base-system and maybe lynx Jun 25 21:27:17 Yes that is right 50 meg is beter to downl then 700 meg Jun 25 21:27:56 and better not download 700MB just to strip everything out of it, there are lots of minimal livecds out there Jun 25 21:28:49 I usually use the gentoo minimal install cd for debugging stuff since it has good hw support and it's just 43MB or so Jun 25 21:32:02 hello Jun 25 21:36:13 maybe you can help me ? I use Openslug 3.10 and i have problem with smbmount. When i mount my windows share i can not see files wit lithuanian (cp1257) symbols in file names. I think that i need "kernel-module-nls-cp1257" but i dont know how to make this module. Jun 25 21:36:54 Thank You in advance Jun 25 22:15:53 bye Jun 26 02:48:49 join #freenode-moderated Jun 26 02:49:06 durn. works better with a slash! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jun 26 02:59:56 2006