**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Aug 09 02:59:56 2006
Aug 09 11:16:18 <barnseenio> anyone here alive using debianslug?
Aug 09 11:18:36 <snuiter> nop
Aug 09 11:18:46 <snuiter> installation failed on my slug
Aug 09 11:18:56 <snuiter> tuv knows about it
Aug 09 11:19:27 <barnseenio> what fw are you using?
Aug 09 11:19:39 <snuiter> firewall?
Aug 09 11:19:41 <snuiter> just iptables
Aug 09 11:19:44 <barnseenio> firmware sorry
Aug 09 11:19:46 <snuiter> in asus wl500g
Aug 09 11:19:47 <snuiter> ow
Aug 09 11:19:49 <snuiter> eh
Aug 09 11:19:52 <snuiter> nothing at the moment 
Aug 09 11:19:59 <snuiter> i used unslung
Aug 09 11:20:04 <snuiter> but wanted 5to switch to debian
Aug 09 11:20:15 <barnseenio> how was unslung?
Aug 09 11:20:17 <snuiter> buit the install image does not recognize /dev/sd
Aug 09 11:20:20 <snuiter> unslung is crap
Aug 09 11:20:27 <snuiter> a lot of stuff goes into /opt
Aug 09 11:20:37 <snuiter> and you have multiple copies of files like /etc/passwd
Aug 09 11:20:41 <snuiter> it's a bit of a mess
Aug 09 11:20:44 <barnseenio> i see
Aug 09 11:20:53 <snuiter> but at least better than the standard linksys crap
Aug 09 11:20:54 <barnseenio> and tried openslug?
Aug 09 11:21:03 <snuiter> which is useless
Aug 09 11:22:40 <barnseenio> ?
Aug 09 11:23:09 <barnseenio> and do you have some device to stream video to your tv?
Aug 09 11:25:09 <snuiter> nope
Aug 09 11:25:11 <snuiter> well
Aug 09 11:25:19 <snuiter> a 20 bucks dvd player
Aug 09 11:25:28 <barnseenio> heh i have that also
Aug 09 11:25:32 <snuiter> and a vhs
Aug 09 11:25:32 <barnseenio> im looking to buy something
Aug 09 11:25:34 <snuiter> vcr
Aug 09 11:25:43 <barnseenio> but am in a dilemma on which to choose
Aug 09 11:25:49 <snuiter> it seems that this wintv thing works on the nslu2
Aug 09 11:25:56 <snuiter> i only use it for mp3
Aug 09 11:26:00 <snuiter> or 'used'...
Aug 09 11:26:31 <barnseenio> does twonky run on debianslug do you know?
Aug 09 11:27:21 <snuiter> dunno
Aug 09 12:18:50 <barnseenio> anyone happen to know which binaries are best to use for debian nslu2 install? Debian/NSLU2 (debian-installer) or (DebianSlug, OpenSlug)
Aug 09 13:28:16 <Nymus> can someon give me some advice on cups?
Aug 09 14:31:53 <wibbler2> Hi, would someone be able to answer a couple of questions for me as to disk ordering/formatting before unslinging my nslu2 ?
Aug 09 14:32:18 <snuiter> uh
Aug 09 14:32:28 <snuiter> yeah
Aug 09 14:32:34 <wibbler2> tnx. so I've flashed the nslu2 with unsling 6.8b firmware, all good
Aug 09 14:32:45 <snuiter> yeah
Aug 09 14:32:45 <wibbler2> I have a 1gb usb flash stick, and a 250gb usb external drive
Aug 09 14:33:06 <wibbler2> i want to be able to run the nslu2 with just the usb in most of the time, so i can use it for dns caching and various
Aug 09 14:33:12 <wibbler2> other lan uses
Aug 09 14:33:25 <snuiter> errr...
Aug 09 14:33:26 <wibbler2> but as and when i want to backup stuff onto the real disk, just power that on
Aug 09 14:33:31 <snuiter> and what's the problem?
Aug 09 14:33:40 <wibbler2> the real disk was formatted on a stock nslu2 previously and has data on
Aug 09 14:33:48 <snuiter> aha
Aug 09 14:33:58 <wibbler2> so i'm not sure which disk i should use where
Aug 09 14:34:01 <snuiter> then just install unslung with only the usb stick inserted
Aug 09 14:34:17 <snuiter> and when it runs fine attach the harddisk and mount ie
Aug 09 14:34:18 <snuiter> it
Aug 09 14:34:23 <snuiter> so you can access its data
Aug 09 14:34:23 <wibbler2> snuit: ok, so should i put the usb stick in port 1 or port 2 ?
Aug 09 14:35:00 <wibbler2> thats more what i wasnt sure about. i formatted it in port 2 (via the unslung firmware) and it formats it as fat32 not exts
Aug 09 14:35:00 <snuiter> I ran unslung with a disk in 1 and an audio dongle in 2
Aug 09 14:35:08 <snuiter> OMG
Aug 09 14:35:09 <snuiter> fat
Aug 09 14:35:18 <snuiter> maybe just backup the usb disk? :)
Aug 09 14:35:32 <snuiter> I'm not sure...unslung tries to format and partition disks
Aug 09 14:35:46 <snuiter> so just install with only the usb stick inserted
Aug 09 14:35:57 <snuiter> i'm not sure wether unslung supports fat or not
Aug 09 14:36:17 <wibbler2> ok. does it matter which port i use the stick in while i install ?
Aug 09 14:36:42 <wibbler2> the wiki root-on-a-usb-flash and unsling6 docs seems to contradict each other
Aug 09 14:37:36 <snuiter> not sure...it's only a problem when switching the disks after installation
Aug 09 14:37:50 <snuiter> i'm affraid I can't help you
Aug 09 14:38:06 <wibbler2> no probs, ta for the help so far any way
Aug 09 14:38:25 <snuiter> goodluck
Aug 09 14:40:07 <wibbler2> i think i'm going to take the plunge, install with the stick only, in port 1, and then use the hd in port 2, theres a doc on the wiki which seems to validate that
Aug 09 14:40:11 <wibbler2> tnx
Aug 09 14:40:27 <snuiter> oki
Aug 09 15:37:06 <barnseenio> what shell based irc solutions are best with the nslu2? ive read debian with irssi + screen, but is there an irc shell workable with unlung ?
Aug 09 16:06:37 <drif> barnseenio: not sure if you're still around but - screen + irssi works very well under unslung
Aug 09 16:21:14 <barnseenio> ah cool - im debating whether i need to go through the effort of the debian install, over unslung
Aug 09 16:21:54 <barnseenio> and irc + some kind of torrent (maybe via php), smb, twonky, ssh/scp is kind of all i need
Aug 09 16:22:34 <barnseenio> im also not hardcore linux user (at all) so i definately fit the profile of the simpler configuration
Aug 09 16:25:18 <drif> if anyone has the site for the irssi-bin - could you please paste it for barnseenio?
Aug 09 16:25:28 <drif> barnseenio: or do you already have it?
Aug 09 16:25:40 <barnseenio> i dont but im sure i'll be able to google it
Aug 09 16:26:08 <drif> wouldn't be so sure of it
Aug 09 16:29:09 <barnseenio> heh well if you have it (or someone else) then paste, and i'll catch the url from here
Aug 09 16:32:32 <barnseenio> xasaas
Aug 09 18:49:21 <nkuttler> hm... the linksys firmware home says port 2 not formatted, but the disk page says port 2 not installed and i can't format my usb stick. any ideas?
Aug 09 19:03:40 <caplink811-log> which size has the stick, and what firmware do you use?
Aug 09 19:04:07 <nkuttler> 1G, V2.3R63 linksys firmware
Aug 09 19:05:26 <caplink811-log> imho, original linksys fw won't format memsticks/disks <10GB.. is the stick formatted (fat32 or something like that)?
Aug 09 19:06:15 <nkuttler> no, it's not formatted yet...
Aug 09 19:06:43 <nkuttler> hm, i guess i'll put fat on it and see what happens
Aug 09 19:07:08 <caplink811-log> when you would use it as main drive at the slug, you should flash unslung firmware (which is able to handle such size) and try it again
Aug 09 19:07:20 <nkuttler> ok
Aug 09 19:13:31 <nkuttler> ah, nice, it's formating
Aug 09 19:18:25 <nkuttler> hm, 4) in the README is kind of confusing. It says you need a >256MB flash disk and that it has to formatted "via the Linksys web interface"
Aug 09 19:18:48 * nkuttler checks the wiki
Aug 09 19:31:35 <nkuttler> caplink811-log: thanks. it's unslung now.
Aug 09 19:43:32 <barnseenio> rock on!
Aug 09 19:44:31 <nkuttler> yeah, well, i just have to get that usb wlan stick to work and i will be a happy man
Aug 10 00:13:00 <natan-> anyone have experience with optware?
Aug 10 01:14:48 <Wez> hey there, anyone around that can help me get my usb ethernet adapter working with unslung 6.8?
Aug 10 01:15:41 <Wez> I'll paste the pertinent bits in case there are lurkers
Aug 10 01:15:56 <Wez> lsusb shows that I have:
Aug 10 01:15:56 <Wez> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 13b1:0018
Aug 10 01:16:06 <Wez> which is a linksys USB200M
Aug 10 01:16:30 <Wez> I've loaded both usbnet (and mii) and ax8817x, and neither seems to register the NIC
Aug 10 01:17:19 <Wez> no sign of eth0/eth1, just ixp0/1 and lo
Aug 10 01:17:26 <Wez> suggestions welcome :)
Aug 10 02:29:25 <mwester> Wez: get an older rev of that device?  There's no mention of a driver for it anywhere I've looked.  It's certainly not supported by the standard Unslung kernel modules.
Aug 10 02:29:57 <Wez> I bought it today from best buy
Aug 10 02:30:09 <Wez> ah, I thought you said "got"
Aug 10 02:30:26 <Wez> do you think I'd have better luck with SlugOS?
Aug 10 02:30:43 <Wez> I'm a competent hacker
Aug 10 02:31:05 <Wez> my goal is to configure my slug as a router
Aug 10 02:31:41 <Wez> so I'm after dhcp, named, iptables and, of course, support for that nic
Aug 10 02:31:46 <mwester> Either it's new, or it's new hardware with an old marketing model #.  The trick is to figure out what chipset it contains, and see what driver will support it.  If SlugOS supported it, a quick google should have found it listed for the 2.6.17 kernel
Aug 10 02:31:59 <Wez> hmm
Aug 10 02:32:06 <Wez> there are some hits for tivo
Aug 10 02:32:24 <Wez> I suspect it's a case of adding the IDs into the right driver and building the kernel module
Aug 10 02:32:51 <mwester> Perhaps, that's been the case with some devices.
Aug 10 02:34:29 <Wez> is there any more info I can get for you that will help?
Aug 10 02:36:47 <mwester> I think if you need or wish support for that device with OpenSlug or Unslung, you'll probably need to come up with a driver, or a patch, or at least some info about how to construct a patch.
Aug 10 02:37:07 <Wez> fair enough
Aug 10 02:37:24 <Wez> sounds like I need to get me a cross compile environment then
Aug 10 02:38:58 <Wez> either that or hex edit the kernel modules ;-)
Aug 10 02:39:29 <mwester> Perhaps digging into the TiVO threads might reveal an alternate driver.  The driver would determine if you can go either Unslung or Openslug, or if you are forced to consider only Openslug (Unslung is a 2.4 kernel, Openslug is a 2.6 kernel).  If you wish to assemble a cross-dev environment, it's pretty easy.  If not, you just need to see if you can find a developer of the appropriate...
Aug 10 02:39:31 <mwester> ...firmware to patch the source and build a module.
Aug 10 02:41:29 <Wez> This suggests that it should be ax88178: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=3543
Aug 10 02:42:36 <Wez> that makes it sound like its just a matter of adding the ids to ax8817x
Aug 10 02:44:11 <mwester> I think if you read it carefully, it says the newer ones are 88772-based, not 8817x
Aug 10 02:44:33 <Wez> ah yes
Aug 10 02:45:06 <Wez> the asix driver supports that chip
Aug 10 02:45:20 <Wez> so I should go for OpenSlug and try building asix?
Aug 10 02:46:10 <mwester> Also implies that you might have success with the most recent 2.6 kernel.  You could try building the latest Openslug release and seeing if it is detected (keep in mind, though, that the development head is unstable -- it might or might not boot at any particular point in time)
Aug 10 02:48:10 <Wez> do you know if the asix driver is present in the latest build, or how can I tell without installing it first?
Aug 10 02:50:45 <Wez> downloading it now, will use my eyes :)
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