**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Aug 12 02:59:56 2006 Aug 12 07:00:59 re * Aug 12 07:01:06 can i have serial cable w/ max232 Aug 12 07:01:18 i can't get max3232 3.3v here, :-( Aug 12 08:28:50 morning all ... im unslung,and looking for the file which contains the commands which are executed when i log in ... where the PATH info is set,etc .. using bash Aug 12 11:12:42 hi Aug 12 11:13:22 Im planning to buy a nslu2, and I like to get some info first Aug 12 11:13:48 does LAMP works on on that device ? Aug 12 11:24:28 javiolo: some specific program or this combination of linux, apache, mysql, php? which is also called as LAMP or what Aug 12 11:24:54 drif I know Aug 12 11:26:11 could you be more specific? Aug 12 11:26:55 I heard its possible to run LAMP on nslu2 with a modified firmware Aug 12 11:27:09 what is LAMP in this specific case? Aug 12 11:27:30 Linux, apache, mysql, php Aug 12 11:27:58 ok, why didn't you say so? "drif I know" doesn't really sound like an answer - more like I was stating the obvious and missing the point Aug 12 11:28:30 yes, there are multitude of firmwares to choose from and they all manage LAMP Aug 12 11:28:59 it works ok or its too slow ? Aug 12 11:29:37 well, apache is a bit greedy with resources - so if there's no specific need for it I'd use php-thttpd Aug 12 11:29:53 ok Aug 12 11:30:09 so it could be used as small website server ? Aug 12 11:30:15 yup Aug 12 11:30:27 javiolo: check out the site in the topic Aug 12 11:30:48 Im already there, thanks Aug 12 11:30:58 in particular this: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/WhatPeopleAreReallyUsingTheirSlugsFor Aug 12 11:31:35 Rayman-bx thanks Aug 12 11:49:51 is there any device like the nslu2 with more specifications ? Aug 12 11:50:44 you mean features? Aug 12 11:51:13 yes Aug 12 11:53:05 just build a silent linux server and be done with it =P Aug 12 11:54:03 check the front page of nslu2-linux.org, they've mentioned a few of'em - and then hunt down their specifics from the manufacturer Aug 12 11:57:09 ok Aug 12 13:38:58 hello Aug 12 13:39:39 Does anyone know wich package provides "su" ? Aug 12 16:51:42 any openslug users around? Aug 12 16:56:39 technically, debianslug is openslug, so i guess yeah :) Aug 12 16:56:46 hey Blastur Aug 12 16:56:58 your using DebianSlug 3.10 Aug 12 16:56:59 ? Aug 12 16:57:14 yea Aug 12 16:57:38 what is the difference between openslug and debianslug ? Aug 12 16:57:55 ah, hmm Aug 12 16:58:08 debian-installer is the same as debianslug, but different installation method? Aug 12 16:58:12 i believe openslug is the core of all, like the kernel + some standard tools.. debian is a dist, built upon that Aug 12 16:58:27 yeah, dont use the debian-installer, it's buggy .. you get the same system afterwards Aug 12 16:58:33 i see Aug 12 16:58:35 just a little more manual work with debianslug, but at least it works Aug 12 16:59:20 i understand that using openslug i would perhaps not have the same 'timing issue' i have with unslung running from usb hd Aug 12 17:00:37 was the debianslug install difficult? or just a case of following the readme? Aug 12 17:01:06 just follow the bootstrap instructions, it's a complete step-by-step process Aug 12 17:01:28 and what applications do you run on your nslu2? Aug 12 17:02:27 i read the instructions, the things i will struggle on is stuff that appears to take for granted in the readers knowledge - like making partions/mounting etc Aug 12 17:03:07 well, the whole reason for getting one was so that it could act as a backupserver, so the past few days i've dedicated to trying out various backup solutions.. first I tried Bacula, which seems good in theory, but was _way_ to heavy for my slug .. with such little memory and tiny cpu, it really hurts transfersspeeds if you overload it (i got like 200 kb/s,.. fun to backup ~400 gb from a couple of machines :P) Aug 12 17:03:40 lol Aug 12 17:03:51 so i tried another program, BackupPC, which i was told was much lighter.. but the same results, boosted performance to maybe 400-500 kb/s,.. still not acceptable Aug 12 17:04:41 you dont bother with irc/httpd? Aug 12 17:04:42 right now i'm creating my own backup solution based on rsync, and it looks promising.. getting speeds up to 3 MB/s so thats cool.. and it does not require a seperate database (like bacula) or a webserver (like backuppc) which uses a lot of unnecessary resources Aug 12 17:05:26 you have smb setup at all? Aug 12 17:05:34 well, i run fileserver+webserver+database on my "real" server.. my slug is 100% backup, nothing else Aug 12 17:05:39 gotcha Aug 12 17:05:46 my other server runs samba server though Aug 12 17:05:58 mm i need that on my slug Aug 12 17:06:00 so i have gone through the configuration process, which is the same as it would on the slug Aug 12 17:06:14 as i need shares visible to xbox and windows pcs Aug 12 17:06:24 yeah, it's no problem setting up really Aug 12 17:06:54 everything is controlled from a single smb.conf-file, and there are plenty of examples on the internet to look at Aug 12 17:07:13 i'll have a go at the debianslug setup tonite. and see if it makes any difference to my booting from freecom usbhd problems i was experiencing in unslung Aug 12 17:07:58 yeah go for it dude Aug 12 17:08:32 i got that sercomm firmware updater going, so guess i should be able to recover from anything bad Aug 12 17:10:06 mmm, i thought it was easy to wreck the slug.. but i was wrong :) i've done pretty much everything you can do wrong, and i've always been able to recover it .. there was only ONCE i was unable to get into upgrade mode, so i had to go into redboot telnet and clean up.. but still, it truly does have amazing fail-safe recovery mechanisms Aug 12 17:10:24 lol thankfully Aug 12 17:10:49 ive fried a few electronic goods in my time Aug 12 17:11:30 i think the only way to really mess up is if you accidentally erase the WHOLE flash memory (with the -U flag to upslug for instance), or attempt to customize the bootloader or something that crazy Aug 12 17:11:43 but i'm not into that stuff, i only flash firmware and mess with the OS .. no harm! Aug 12 17:11:58 heh, im going to be deb firmware on now Aug 12 17:14:37 whats diff between sarge and sid? Aug 12 17:15:10 and which do i get from the standard download DebianSlug-3.10-beta-firmware.zip Aug 12 17:17:11 the firmware itself does not control that.. it's just the kernel. Sarge and Sid are the distribution names, basically Sarge means the "stable" packages, and sid is the "unstable" (as in, it works really well, but it's not recommended for a production environment [yet]) .. so in practise this means if you go unstable, you get access to more recent versions of software, .. and really new software does not exist in the "sta Aug 12 17:17:34 and what port do you have your harddisk Aug 12 17:17:50 so if it's a really important box, say a backup server, i'd go for Sarge.. for anything else, like a webserver etc, you want Sid as it has modern versions of mysql, php and so forth Aug 12 17:17:59 how do you 'go for sarge' ? Aug 12 17:19:09 if you read the BootStrap instructions (http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/DebianSlug/Bootstrap), there is a command that differs during the process.. it's basically just the "URL" to the package downloader, you either tell it to fetch from the stable repository, or the unstable Aug 12 17:20:13 to be exact, search for the line: ./usr/sbin/debootstrap on that html-page.. it appears in two secitons, one for each dist, you check the difference Aug 12 17:20:42 it's pretty clear really, there is even a seperate section for Sarge, saying "if you want sarge, do like Sid, only do these stuff different ..." Aug 12 17:21:12 and what do you mean with port? you mean physical usb jack i've used on the back? :) Aug 12 17:21:38 if so, i'm using port 2 for my primary system (a usb memory stick), and port 1 for my "storage disk" (standard usb drive) Aug 12 17:27:12 k, so sid you suggest Aug 12 17:27:36 i dont have the stick, so for now im going to try running everything from a disk Aug 12 17:27:56 well, thats just fine =) Aug 12 17:28:19 i'm actually considering getting rid of my memory stick, since the new usb drive is not very noise at all Aug 12 17:28:21 k so about to run debian firmware on Aug 12 17:28:29 router is dhcp Aug 12 17:28:36 no mac address filtering enabled Aug 12 17:28:48 yeah, should be good then Aug 12 17:29:01 erasing eeprom ;-) Aug 12 17:29:08 :) Aug 12 17:29:24 scary stuff!! iih Aug 12 17:29:35 does it matter when the usb hd is attached (like unslung)? Aug 12 17:30:04 well, i always thought that you had to remove all disks in order to enter upgrade mode.. Aug 12 17:30:12 but i think its good practise to always remove them during upgrades Aug 12 17:30:24 there are no disks in now Aug 12 17:30:32 but in unslung you need to boot with none in, and the insert it to 'unsling' Aug 12 17:30:52 you also want to make sure they do not interfere during the first bootup of debian.. so you can check everything out, making sure its good. Then you can shutdown, plug in the disk and continue the bootstrap Aug 12 17:31:09 35% Aug 12 17:31:17 yeah, thats no problem.. you can boot debian with a disk installed in the port Aug 12 17:31:28 (as far as I know) Aug 12 17:31:36 ssh is installed with the openslug/debian huh Aug 12 17:31:52 what? Aug 12 17:32:11 well, it seems you can ssh into the box straight after firmware install with openslug Aug 12 17:32:16 with unslung you need to telnet Aug 12 17:32:34 yeah, the firmware contains a minimum set of packages.. so yah, you can SSH in directly after flash is complete Aug 12 17:32:55 79% Aug 12 17:33:19 the sun is finally out here, no more rain .. so i'm gonna get out for a run :) good luck with the slug, laters dude Aug 12 17:33:35 have fun Aug 12 17:43:06 hmm Aug 12 17:43:30 its installed and rebooted fine - now i need to format the disk and create partitions i guess Aug 12 17:43:59 yeah, but create partitions first (using fdisk), THEN you format [make the filesystem] :) Aug 12 17:47:44 the disk still has the unslung partitions on it Aug 12 17:47:48 1 & 2 Aug 12 17:48:49 im going to read on wtf to do Aug 12 17:48:59 christ im an idiot at this stuff Aug 12 17:49:37 i just forgot i had put in ext3 partitions on mp3-player, so i have to FDISK it before i can put music on it and go outside to run :P Aug 12 17:49:40 feel kinda geeky Aug 12 17:50:46 lol Aug 12 17:50:51 just before you go Aug 12 17:50:56 the wiki says Aug 12 17:51:11 how to create 2 partitions Aug 12 17:51:20 one mounted as / Aug 12 17:51:24 another as swap Aug 12 17:51:38 yeah Aug 12 17:51:49 what should i do .. i have this 400gb disk Aug 12 17:52:08 i want basically whatever debianslug needs and the rest as one big chunk Aug 12 17:52:38 just repeat the first partition i guess Aug 12 17:52:42 but with a larger size Aug 12 17:52:55 what about 'start sector'? Aug 12 17:53:03 well, swap space is always difficult.. it is the memory to be used when all the ram is allocated, .. I personally used 64 mb swap, and a 512 mb for / Aug 12 17:53:19 so do this, begin by removing all partitions in Fdisk Aug 12 17:54:01 fdisk /dev/sda Aug 12 17:54:06 yeah Aug 12 17:54:13 press "d" Aug 12 17:54:22 or, first you can press "p" to see all current partitions Aug 12 17:54:24 delete both i guess Aug 12 17:54:27 yeah Aug 12 17:54:30 do "d" twice Aug 12 17:54:37 verify with "p" so that they are removed Aug 12 17:54:38 k done Aug 12 17:54:44 okay, now press "n" Aug 12 17:54:50 Disk /dev/sda: 400.0 GB, 400088457216 bytes Aug 12 17:54:50 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 48641 cylinders Aug 12 17:54:50 Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Aug 12 17:54:50 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System Aug 12 17:54:51 /dev/sda3 48635 48641 56227+ 82 Linux swap Aug 12 17:55:01 remove the 3rd one aswell Aug 12 17:55:09 "d" and press 3 Aug 12 17:55:22 now "p" should end up empty Aug 12 17:55:24 err crap already pressed n, what is it to escape current commend Aug 12 17:55:26 command Aug 12 17:55:36 no problem, just press 1 and enter twice Aug 12 17:55:41 and then remove the newly created partition again Aug 12 17:56:05 Command (m for help): p Aug 12 17:56:05 Disk /dev/sda: 400.0 GB, 400088457216 bytes Aug 12 17:56:05 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 48641 cylinders Aug 12 17:56:05 Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Aug 12 17:56:05 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System Aug 12 17:56:05 /dev/sda1 1 48619 390532086 83 Linux Aug 12 17:56:07 /dev/sda2 48620 48634 120487+ 83 Linux Aug 12 17:56:09 /dev/sda3 48635 48641 56227+ 82 Linux swap Aug 12 17:56:18 did you create those? Aug 12 17:56:22 lol didnt think so Aug 12 17:56:27 k go for delete all 3 Aug 12 17:56:32 yeah Aug 12 17:56:49 all gone? Aug 12 17:56:50 k done Aug 12 17:56:53 good Aug 12 17:56:53 yup Aug 12 17:56:55 now press "n" Aug 12 17:56:58 and then 1 Aug 12 17:57:07 Command (m for help): n Aug 12 17:57:08 Command action Aug 12 17:57:08 e extended Aug 12 17:57:08 p primary partition (1-4) Aug 12 17:57:16 yeah, do primary Aug 12 17:57:28 and then 1 :) Aug 12 17:57:28 first cylinder Aug 12 17:57:30 (i forget some) Aug 12 17:57:40 set first cylinder to default (just press enter) Aug 12 17:57:50 last Aug 12 17:58:02 and stop cylinder should be: +650M Aug 12 17:58:03 Last cylinder or +size or +sizeM or +sizeK Aug 12 17:58:11 that means you get a 650 MB partition Aug 12 17:58:16 you will use this for your system Aug 12 17:58:17 this is for the debian install? Aug 12 17:58:20 yes Aug 12 17:58:21 i dont mind this being bigger Aug 12 17:58:28 im not on a stick remember Aug 12 17:58:30 okay, if you want, you can keep ALL space here Aug 12 17:58:32 right Aug 12 17:58:47 no, i'll go for just some here for os Aug 12 17:58:47 so lets do it big :) Aug 12 17:58:51 lol 3gb? Aug 12 17:59:00 sure, thats good Aug 12 17:59:05 +3000M then Aug 12 17:59:29 okay, all done? Aug 12 17:59:52 Command (m for help): p Aug 12 17:59:52 Disk /dev/sda: 400.0 GB, 400088457216 bytes Aug 12 17:59:52 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 48641 cylinders Aug 12 17:59:52 Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Aug 12 17:59:52 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System Aug 12 17:59:52 /dev/sda1 1 366 2939863+ 83 Linux Aug 12 17:59:59 thats good Aug 12 18:00:04 now press "n" again Aug 12 18:00:10 and primary, and 2 Aug 12 18:00:19 start sector, press enter Aug 12 18:00:26 last sector = +64M Aug 12 18:00:29 (this is our swap) Aug 12 18:00:32 only 64? Aug 12 18:00:36 512? Aug 12 18:00:42 yeah, it's good Aug 12 18:00:50 you should have about twice the amount of ram Aug 12 18:01:01 so if you got 32 mb ram (like the slug), go for 64 mb Aug 12 18:01:04 ok Aug 12 18:01:10 are you done with it? Aug 12 18:01:14 done Aug 12 18:01:19 /dev/sda1 1 366 2939863+ 83 Linux Aug 12 18:01:19 /dev/sda2 367 375 72292+ 83 Linux Aug 12 18:01:20 ok, now press "t" Aug 12 18:01:29 t Aug 12 18:01:31 2 Aug 12 18:01:31 and then 2 Aug 12 18:01:40 82 Aug 12 18:01:41 ? Aug 12 18:01:41 and use code 82 Aug 12 18:01:43 yeah Aug 12 18:02:05 k so this last one then? Aug 12 18:02:15 can you say 'rest of space'? Aug 12 18:02:17 ok, so finally, create your megadisk :) just go "n", primary, 3, start=default, last=default Aug 12 18:02:23 yeah, "rest of space" is enter Aug 12 18:02:40 /dev/sda1 1 366 2939863+ 83 Linux Aug 12 18:02:40 /dev/sda2 367 375 72292+ 82 Linux swap Aug 12 18:02:40 /dev/sda3 376 48641 387696645 83 Linux Aug 12 18:02:45 looks good Aug 12 18:02:50 press "w" to save it Aug 12 18:02:56 and then q to exit fdisk Aug 12 18:03:37 Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table. Aug 12 18:03:37 WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 16: Device or resource busy. Aug 12 18:03:37 The kernel still uses the old table. Aug 12 18:03:37 The new table will be used at the next reboot. Aug 12 18:03:37 Syncing disks. Aug 12 18:04:03 yeah, like it says, you need to reboot to be able to see the partitions Aug 12 18:04:08 since the disk is already mounted Aug 12 18:04:20 anyhow, i gotta run now, but just follow the guide from here on Aug 12 18:04:23 k thanks Aug 12 18:04:31 i'll be back later i guess :) Aug 12 18:04:58 you'll need to add some extra stuff to be able to access your large partitions, but i can help you with that later (it's a matter of adding 1 line to the /etc/fstab file) Aug 12 18:05:20 large partition* Aug 12 18:05:40 k great Aug 12 18:05:43 have a good run Aug 12 18:05:49 avoid large buses Aug 12 18:12:22 barnseenio: how are things going today? Aug 12 18:14:33 drif, :) Aug 12 18:15:18 cap :) Aug 12 18:44:32 hey drif Aug 12 18:44:35 things are better Aug 12 18:44:47 debianslug seems to be working out better than unslung with this hd Aug 12 20:16:01 hey Aug 12 20:16:04 how goes it barnseenio? Aug 12 20:16:34 my debianslug just crasht Aug 12 20:16:40 nslu2 won't boot anymore Aug 12 20:16:41 barnseenio: glad to hear that Aug 12 20:17:02 (I'm glad I directed that one to barnseenio...) Aug 12 20:17:29 snowbike, but the nslu would boot without an external data storage? Aug 12 20:17:54 oops, snuiter i meant Aug 12 20:18:21 snuiter, how did you do? Aug 12 20:18:32 ehm Aug 12 20:18:38 while feeding my kids Aug 12 20:18:40 i heard some beeps Aug 12 20:18:43 and it shutdown Aug 12 20:18:49 no traces in syslog on the disk Aug 12 20:18:55 i flashed the firmware again Aug 12 20:19:04 and i'm now trying to boot the installer again Aug 12 20:19:08 and hook up my harddisk Aug 12 20:19:20 but it seems like the flash mem is corrupt or something...i'm not sure Aug 12 20:19:42 the strange thing is that my ehternet led flashes Aug 12 20:19:51 in a random pattern Aug 12 20:20:11 ready/status stays yellow Aug 12 20:20:28 and sometimes, for half a second, it turns off and than on again Aug 12 20:20:59 so, Aug 12 20:20:59 maybe it has grown a consciousness and is attempting to communicate with you? Aug 12 20:21:00 no clue Aug 12 20:21:15 blastur: i was thinking about dhcp requests Aug 12 20:21:22 but this isn't an answer on my question, above... that happens also, when you boot without an external storage? Aug 12 20:21:50 well... Aug 12 20:22:08 i'm now trying to boot it without any usb thing inserted Aug 12 20:22:21 already lasts a couple of minutes now Aug 12 20:23:15 * snuiter is getting sick of linksys....i've had similar problems with the wrt54g and had to replace it Aug 12 20:23:27 really? Aug 12 20:23:31 yeah Aug 12 20:23:37 i just bought my slug, AND a wrt54gl Aug 12 20:23:41 hope it wont break :| Aug 12 20:23:49 i've got the first wrt54g Aug 12 20:23:52 what environment are you keeping your equipment in? Aug 12 20:23:57 worked well for 4 years or so Aug 12 20:23:59 well, my wrt54 works fine, as my nslu2's do.. Aug 12 20:24:05 blastur: bookshelve Aug 12 20:24:17 * snuiter bought wl500g delux Aug 12 20:24:23 s/wrt54/wrt54's Aug 12 20:24:23 much better than wrt54g Aug 12 20:25:20 Blastur: my slug is not really warm or something like that....although i de-underclocked it (of course) Aug 12 20:25:27 but never had problems with unslung.... Aug 12 20:25:46 rather than that unslung is crappy...that's why I switched to debian yesterday Aug 12 20:25:59 and today it screwed up my slug Aug 12 20:26:55 okay, so you suspect that the error isn't hardware related? Aug 12 20:27:54 well... Aug 12 20:27:58 i just touched it Aug 12 20:28:01 it's COLD Aug 12 20:28:08 not as warm as usual Aug 12 20:28:11 :( Aug 12 20:28:12 snuiter, ok, you flashed the nslu after the crash, and you reset the sysconf area? Aug 12 20:28:21 caplink: i didn't Aug 12 20:28:51 the only way to do this is by entering redboot? Aug 12 20:29:03 well, then you should try that, as mentioned in the wiki at http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/ResetSysConf Aug 12 20:29:08 yeah i know Aug 12 20:29:26 yes. Aug 12 20:29:31 that sucks Aug 12 20:29:38 not realy ;) Aug 12 20:29:43 have to attach a switch and find utp Aug 12 20:30:13 or can i just keep it like it is now; with a router in between, wifi and stuff...? Aug 12 20:30:30 or just a switch or cross cable Aug 12 20:30:39 maybe that marceln knows an another solution... morning, btw :) Aug 12 20:30:49 eh Aug 12 20:30:53 evening overhere Aug 12 20:31:02 snuiter, the simplest way is a cross over cable Aug 12 20:31:05 yeah Aug 12 20:31:12 i'll assemble one right now Aug 12 20:31:19 any body knows the wiring by heart? Aug 12 20:31:21 ;) Aug 12 20:31:22 if the slug and your computer is connected through your wrt54, you can probably setup a virtual lan with just those 2 ethernet ports, so that there are no ip conflicts.. no need to re-cable :) Aug 12 20:31:47 blastur; but i have to enter redboot by arping Aug 12 20:31:49 but you need 192.168.0.1 to be free Aug 12 20:31:50 well.. Aug 12 20:31:57 lets make a crosscable Aug 12 20:39:24 done Aug 12 20:43:11 Escape character is '^]'. Aug 12 20:43:11 == Executing boot script in 1.560 seconds - enter ^C to abort Aug 12 20:43:11 ^C Aug 12 20:43:12 RedBoot> Aug 12 20:43:22 Blastur, its rockin Aug 12 20:43:37 barnseenio: well....here it does not rock anymore :( Aug 12 20:43:51 im sorry friend, anything i can do to help -- i havent read up Aug 12 20:44:09 barn: just the usual crap with machines :) Aug 12 20:44:17 don't bother reading my complains Aug 12 20:44:21 yes im currently irssi + screen in debianslug / nslu2 Aug 12 20:44:38 not in this channel, but another - whilst i retrieve my config file form another machine Aug 12 20:45:10 so, snuiter your in windows or linux? Aug 12 20:45:45 linux Aug 12 20:46:01 and you cant start slug in upgrade mode? Aug 12 20:46:44 yes, i can Aug 12 20:47:38 it boots again now Aug 12 20:47:49 after doing resetsysconf Aug 12 20:56:03 guess what!!! Aug 12 20:56:06 it's the power supply Aug 12 20:56:24 hm... Aug 12 20:56:36 i've got two similer linksys power supplies,both 5V 2A Aug 12 20:56:53 one of them as a magnet around the wire Aug 12 20:57:03 and that one works Aug 12 20:57:46 the other makes my slug unstable for some reason Aug 12 20:58:42 hmm Aug 12 20:59:00 that odd "ERI" shield? Aug 12 20:59:04 what is that anyway? Aug 12 20:59:13 with the other power supply the read/status led just lit briefly Aug 12 20:59:15 i thought you were suppose to put it on the network cable Aug 12 20:59:22 blastur: could be Aug 12 20:59:26 but it is important Aug 12 20:59:34 blastur: haha Aug 12 20:59:36 na Aug 12 20:59:43 thats what the manual said :) Aug 12 20:59:44 it has something to do with magnetic fields...not sure Aug 12 20:59:48 wha cool Aug 12 20:59:56 or, i may have read it wrong Aug 12 21:00:00 i wasn't paying attention Aug 12 21:00:01 when your slug crashes, put it on the wire of the power supply Aug 12 21:00:16 guess i'll have to run down to the basement and fetch it from the box :) Aug 12 21:00:21 hm Aug 12 21:00:44 maybe the other power supply is just screwed up and also fucked up my wrt54g Aug 12 21:00:47 i dont know Aug 12 21:04:13 sfixed Aug 12 21:04:15 fixed Aug 12 21:04:16 works again Aug 12 21:04:34 and now for something completely different: Aug 12 21:04:36 downloading PORN Aug 12 21:04:53 next project: wintv Aug 12 21:05:03 is this cool stuff? Aug 12 21:07:31 wintv? Aug 12 21:07:34 never heard of it Aug 12 21:07:56 usb device with an mpeg encoded/decoder Aug 12 21:08:20 it seems that you can hook it up to your slug and have a vcr Aug 12 21:08:51 I'm now only playing mp3's on my slug Aug 12 21:10:03 hehe, okay.. is the slug fast enough for that? Aug 12 21:10:14 eh Aug 12 21:10:17 well Aug 12 21:10:22 this usb device does everyting Aug 12 21:10:32 the wintv usb is quite expensive Aug 12 21:10:39 around 120 euro Aug 12 21:10:54 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/InstallWinTVPVRUSB2 Aug 12 21:11:14 ouch Aug 12 21:11:24 WHAT HAPPEN!! Aug 12 21:13:55 what now? Aug 12 21:14:06 steal it Aug 12 21:14:15 i dont know Aug 12 21:14:27 just wondering if somebody overhere has this thing and uses it Aug 12 21:15:39 would it not be more logical to have such card in a computer where you can also stream the tv feed to your screen? :) Aug 12 21:16:36 i want small devices without cooling Aug 12 21:31:17 Blastur, installed php-thttpd ? Aug 12 21:31:55 to upgrade the kernel on an nslu2, I need to reflash it? Aug 12 21:31:58 eum, no? :) i run apache on mine Aug 12 21:32:15 mm, i dont think i can be fucked with apache Aug 12 21:32:51 no, .. apache usually don't allow you to be fucked. But neither does thttpd :/ Aug 12 21:33:20 i wont be serving many pages to many clients Aug 12 21:33:33 i presumed the simple option would be most performant Aug 12 21:42:43 hello Aug 12 21:42:58 hi Aug 12 21:43:00 hello! Aug 12 21:43:14 I have a problem ;-) Aug 12 21:43:50 Firmware Version: V2.3R63-uNSLUng-6.8-beta Aug 12 21:44:07 oei Aug 12 21:44:08 I have one disk atched and everything works fine Aug 12 21:44:17 that's not a problem Aug 12 21:44:42 on this disk I have a file wich was written by a streaming box through nfs mount Aug 12 21:45:11 yeah Aug 12 21:45:26 I tried to remove this file and I get the error: Value too large for defined data type Aug 12 21:45:44 !? Aug 12 21:45:49 how big is it? Aug 12 21:45:59 rm: unable to stat `file.xx': Value too large for defined data type Aug 12 21:46:04 ah Aug 12 21:46:08 removing via nfs? Aug 12 21:46:09 well Aug 12 21:46:15 ls -ls gives: Aug 12 21:46:19 bogus Aug 12 21:46:20 ? Aug 12 21:46:36 ls: ./Das_Erste_Sportschau_2006-08-12_185020.001.ts: Value too large for defined data type (thats the filename...) Aug 12 21:46:56 ok but through my nfs client I get a size Aug 12 21:47:02 and it is about 5GB Aug 12 21:47:05 weird Aug 12 21:47:16 and what about moving it? Aug 12 21:47:18 is that possible? Aug 12 21:47:25 I try Aug 12 21:47:38 to a separate dir and than remove that directory Aug 12 21:47:41 (rm -r) Aug 12 21:47:51 or try to zip it and than delete it :) Aug 12 21:48:13 ls on the client gives: 5429656 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5554527116 Aug 12 20:24 Das_Erste_Sportschau_2006-08-12_185020.001.ts Aug 12 21:48:34 hang on i will try that Aug 12 21:48:38 k Aug 12 21:49:09 first I try to delete it from the nfs client... Aug 12 21:49:22 :( rm: unable to remove `Das_Erste_Sportschau_2006-08-12_185020.001.ts': Input/output error Aug 12 21:49:27 ok... Aug 12 21:49:30 hm Aug 12 21:49:39 now trying to move... Aug 12 21:49:43 hey wait Aug 12 21:49:54 what about echo ''>Das_Erste_Spor.....etc.. Aug 12 21:50:03 just overwrite it with something small Aug 12 21:50:05 and than delete Aug 12 21:50:06 then Aug 12 21:50:08 allready tired that it.... Aug 12 21:50:27 tired :) Aug 12 21:50:28 wheeee Aug 12 21:50:29 !!!! Aug 12 21:50:29 hehe Aug 12 21:50:31 !?!?!? Aug 12 21:50:32 done! Aug 12 21:50:35 IT EXPLODES!? Aug 12 21:50:36 ah Aug 12 21:50:40 but how? Aug 12 21:50:44 what did you do? Aug 12 21:50:45 echo > worked now Aug 12 21:50:46 !! Aug 12 21:50:49 so the nfs modules supports large files, but the local stuff doesn't? Aug 12 21:50:51 ok Aug 12 21:51:03 rm ... done! Aug 12 21:51:06 jo2y-home: that's ms-windows logic.. Aug 12 21:51:22 oh yeah! Aug 12 21:51:30 it was a 2 gig limit, not a 4 gig. Aug 12 21:51:50 ok hmm I shouldt stream another file and try again Aug 12 21:52:17 I have allready done that and have some 50 to 200mb files Aug 12 21:52:23 those dont have any problems! Aug 12 21:52:29 weird Aug 12 21:52:33 maybe it is a size problem Aug 12 21:52:54 ok streaming now Aug 12 21:55:01 this shouldt take some time, I will report what it does with a >1gb<2gb file Aug 12 21:55:28 perheps I was just a one time problem :D Aug 12 21:56:25 jo2y-home: there shouldt be no 2gb limit, only FAT filesystem have those limit Aug 12 22:09:28 at one point in ext2 there was a 2 gig file limit. Aug 12 22:11:29 some quick searchs say it was fixed in 2.4, so I'm just old. Aug 12 22:11:37 ah okay.. Aug 12 22:12:45 okay unslung uses ext3 Aug 12 22:13:48 yeah, I was thinking linux in general. Aug 12 22:14:29 I've also been dealing with the 4 gig memory limit at work. Aug 12 22:14:46 s/the/a/g Aug 12 22:14:46 jo2y-home meant: I've also been dealing with a 4 gig memory limit at work. Aug 12 22:14:55 heh. neat. Aug 12 22:43:14 uhmm just did a reboot of my box, hmm "Ready/Status" keeps flashing now for some minutes (!!); ethernet and DISK2 light is on. Aug 12 22:44:19 okay wow looks like I shouldt get used to high boot times Aug 12 22:44:26 ;-) Aug 12 23:01:21 does anybody now if anongid,anonuid in /etc/exports will also work if a root mount the share from nfs client? Aug 12 23:11:17 okay the answer is: yes if root_squash is set also Aug 12 23:25:10 can anybody describe the difference of /share/hdd and /share/flash ? Aug 13 01:40:49 why are the disk LEDs always off by default in openSlug/debianSlug? Aug 13 01:53:40 can they show disk activity? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Aug 13 02:59:57 2006