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Aug 21 09:38:15 <Tobbe> Hi. I'm in the process of unslinging my NSLU2. I'm at the point where I should run /sbin/unsling disk1 but a small detail in the web interface is worrying me. On the main page it says "USB Port 1: Ready, 6MB (3% Free)" I have a 250GB hdd attached to port 1 with about 2GB of data on it, so those numbers can't be correct.
Aug 21 09:39:00 <Tobbe> Disk 1 status is Formatted (EXT3) in Administration -> Advanced -> Disk
Aug 21 09:39:28 <Tobbe> Is it OK to continue, or have I done anything wrong?
Aug 21 09:44:45 <Tobbe> I'm trying the Scandisk tip on http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/TroubleshootADriveMissingCondition
Aug 21 09:47:06 <Tobbe> That didn't work... I got "No scan performed"
Aug 21 09:48:53 <Tobbe> Is the telnet password the only reason for unplugging the disk before booting and then hotplugging it when loged in in telnet?
Aug 21 10:04:39 <kfm82> my slug hardly ever displays the correct disk and usage sizes in the web interface, and i don't care much. i rely on busybox and /bin/df to tell me the correct values
Aug 21 10:07:11 <Tobbe> Thing is I can't even browse the content of the harddrive
Aug 21 10:08:03 <Tobbe> When I looked in /share/hdd/data it was empty
Aug 21 10:10:10 <giallu> Tobbe, if you jsut formatted it, it has to be empty
Aug 21 10:10:47 <Tobbe> I didn't just format it, it has a few movies on it
Aug 21 10:11:35 <giallu> ah. wasn't the disk supposed to be formatted before unslinging to it? 
Aug 21 10:13:34 <Tobbe> Well, it is formated, but after the format I put stuff on it
Aug 21 10:17:12 <giallu> Tobbe, I mean ,formatted with the SLUG web interface. have to find the instructions I followed for mine
Aug 21 10:18:37 <Tobbe> I let the setup format my drive when I first got my NSLU2
Aug 21 10:19:05 <Tobbe> so it is a ext3 formated disk with all the right folders and files on it that the nslu2 needs
Aug 21 10:19:14 <giallu> ok.
Aug 21 10:19:50 <giallu> so I guess the reading on the web interface could refer to a specific partition on the disk
Aug 21 10:21:17 <giallu> about your data: what's in /share/flash/data ?
Aug 21 10:21:23 <Tobbe> yes, I guess it could
Aug 21 10:21:43 <Tobbe> hold on, I'll check
Aug 21 10:25:19 <Tobbe> Just to let you know, I now rebooted the slug with the disk plugged in. The web interface now says: "USB Port 1:	Ready, 234560MB (99% Free)"
Aug 21 10:27:05 <Tobbe> and telneting in now shows the data in /share/hdd/data/public
Aug 21 10:27:17 <Tobbe> and /share/flash/data is ofcourse empty
Aug 21 10:30:36 <drif> seems fine then
Aug 21 10:31:29 <Tobbe> yes, but I'm not sure if I can unslung from this point as I didn't have the hdd unplugged during boot as it says like five times in the readme that you should...
Aug 21 10:32:28 <drif> so you haven't yet unslung then
Aug 21 10:33:16 <Tobbe> no, I was just about to issue /sbin/unsling disk1 when I noticed that I couldn't access the data on the disk
Aug 21 10:33:17 <drif> but you're able telnet? then you should be able to unslung also
Aug 21 10:33:24 <drif> +to
Aug 21 10:33:54 <drif> unsling I mean
Aug 21 10:34:39 <Tobbe> so the telnet password is the only reason for unplugging the hdd before boot?
Aug 21 11:20:57 <barnseenio> yes Tobbe thats how i understand it
Aug 21 11:22:14 <Tobbe> how sure are you?
Aug 21 11:24:10 <RaYmAn-Bx> if you have confirmed redboot access, then really, what's the worst thing that can happen?
Aug 21 11:27:55 * giallu unslinged w/o previous check of redboot :)
Aug 21 12:15:34 <Tobbe> Just to let you all know. I manualy mounted /dev/sdb1 to /share/hdd/data and /dev/sdb2 to /share/hdd/conf and that made the web interface report the right stuff, and I could also browse my files again. So now I have a fully unslung nlsu2 :)
Aug 21 19:18:18 <moogaloo> cvs log make/php.mk
Aug 21 19:24:17 <paolo_> Hello All, I need some help to download Openslug binary image from standard mirror an a dialup connection. Am I posting on the right channel ?
Aug 21 20:42:09 <Tobbe> Hi, how do I install irssi on my unslung nlsu2?
Aug 21 20:42:31 <RaYmAn-Bx> tried ipkg install irssi? (I don't actually know if that works, but worth a try)
Aug 21 20:42:51 <Tobbe> I've installed openssh, nano and screen using ipkg packages, but I couldn't find any irssi ipkg packages
Aug 21 20:43:28 <Tobbe> RaYmAn-Bx: That returns Cannot find package irssi.
Aug 21 20:44:13 <drif> hi tobbe
Aug 21 20:44:19 <Tobbe> Hi again :)
Aug 21 20:44:22 <drif> ipkg doesn't provide irssi
Aug 21 20:44:29 <Tobbe> yeah, I noticed
Aug 21 20:45:08 <Tobbe> so what are my options to get it?
Aug 21 20:47:27 <RaYmAn-Bx> you could try compiling it yourself
Aug 21 20:47:36 <RaYmAn-Bx> or google and see if someone has already done it
Aug 21 20:48:00 <tuv> or use debianSlug :)
Aug 21 20:48:37 <Tobbe> drif was kind enough to give the compiled executable to me :)
Aug 21 20:59:31 <barnseenio> use debianslug ;-)
Aug 21 20:59:42 <barnseenio> it rocks
Aug 21 20:59:54 <barnseenio> hey drif
Aug 21 21:00:21 <Tobbe> barnseenio: Maybe later, I just bought the slug a few days ago :)
Aug 21 21:00:33 <barnseenio> aha, me too
Aug 21 21:00:48 <barnseenio> although i went debianslug cos unslung didnt work with my usb drive
Aug 21 21:00:52 <barnseenio> but im glad i did
Aug 21 21:01:07 <barnseenio> its just so versatile
Aug 21 21:01:25 <barnseenio> ive got tons of stuff set up on it, and it runs sweet 
Aug 21 21:02:44 <barnseenio> although i did try torrentflux
Aug 21 21:02:48 <barnseenio> and that broke its back
Aug 21 21:03:04 <barnseenio> php + python + mysql + apache == dead slug
Aug 21 21:03:24 <Tobbe> yeah, it needs more ram for stuff like that
Aug 21 21:03:31 <barnseenio> ye python was eating it
Aug 21 21:03:42 <barnseenio> although rtorrent is good
Aug 21 21:03:57 <Tobbe> with how many torrents?
Aug 21 21:04:10 <barnseenio> usually i have 2 or 3 going
Aug 21 21:04:43 <barnseenio> but problem is on 0.6.0 rtorrent has some memory faults, so its not so good with large (dvd size) torrents, but < 1gb ive never had a problem with
Aug 21 21:04:53 <barnseenio> compiling the 6.1 source is a pain
Aug 21 21:05:17 <Tobbe> it's not uncommon for me to have 10+ torrents, so I don't even think I'll try :)
Aug 21 21:05:53 <barnseenio> well i used to, but im into this slow burn effect of the slug, just line them all up and if it takes a day or so extra .. who cares ;-)
Aug 21 21:07:12 <Tobbe> are you kidding? If you're a day late with the torrent you'll kill your ratio!
Aug 21 21:07:13 <barnseenio> and i decided that now ive got slug + xbox combo, i'll probly stick to xvid/divx releases so hopefully wont need the 4gb stuff
Aug 21 21:07:51 <barnseenio> oh, well i use a closed group. im fortunate i can leech what i like without care for ratio
Aug 21 21:08:10 <barnseenio> im looking forward to not burning dvds all the time
Aug 21 21:08:58 <barnseenio> doing my bit for the environment!
Aug 21 21:09:49 <Tobbe> hehe, now with the extra storage my slug + new usb hdd gives me I hope I've got the space to keep a few more dvd isos on the harddrive so I don't have to burn them :)
Aug 21 21:10:04 <barnseenio> lol ye
Aug 21 21:10:09 <barnseenio> how much disk did you go for?
Aug 21 21:10:57 <Tobbe> 250 for now
Aug 21 21:11:02 <barnseenio> k
Aug 21 21:11:09 <barnseenio> that'll be full in 3 months!
Aug 21 21:11:12 <Tobbe> I'll add another 250 if I need it :)
Aug 21 21:11:18 <Tobbe> yeah, probably :)
Aug 21 21:11:25 <barnseenio> i went for 400
Aug 21 21:11:39 <barnseenio> was really cheap
Aug 21 21:12:16 <Tobbe> I heard it was safest too stay at <= 250GB for a single drive
Aug 21 21:12:24 <barnseenio> oh?
Aug 21 21:12:29 <barnseenio> whys that
Aug 21 21:12:50 <joga> you'll only lose a 1/4 gig when it fails? ;)
Aug 21 21:12:56 <barnseenio> lol
Aug 21 21:13:00 <joga> ehh, 1/4 ter
Aug 21 21:13:01 <joga> :)
Aug 21 21:13:24 <barnseenio> ye, i dont want to think about fail
Aug 21 21:13:30 <barnseenio> after the last week or so of setup i did
Aug 21 21:13:38 <barnseenio> i have it just how i want it
Aug 21 21:13:45 <barnseenio> so its probably due to break
Aug 21 21:14:13 <joga> drives are made to fail...I just got one 250gb lacie back from service...the THIRD time, and it was broken when I got back home with it. same thing happened the previous time, was broken from service
Aug 21 21:14:22 <barnseenio> ouch
Aug 21 21:14:23 <joga> pieces of shite they are, consumer drives
Aug 21 21:14:42 <barnseenio> are you unslung to the usbhd?
Aug 21 21:14:56 <joga> well, I've a 400GB western digital on it now
Aug 21 21:14:57 <Tobbe> joga: don't even get me started on lacie drives!
Aug 21 21:15:09 <barnseenio> and have you tweaked spindown?
Aug 21 21:15:19 <joga> no, it seems to spin down ok
Aug 21 21:15:23 <barnseenio> mine seems to be pretty much constantly spinning
Aug 21 21:15:51 <Tobbe> My WD MyBook spinned down before, but now that I have unslung to it it doesn't anymore
Aug 21 21:16:03 <joga> are you writing logs there or something?
Aug 21 21:16:11 <joga> or other constant access
Aug 21 21:16:16 <joga> (that can't be cached)
Aug 21 21:16:16 <barnseenio> well, yes ;-)
Aug 21 21:16:35 <barnseenio> mm
Aug 21 21:16:42 <barnseenio> well, im not so sure if its disk access atb
Aug 21 21:16:43 <barnseenio> tbh
Aug 21 21:16:58 <drif> WD drives seem not to be like they used to...
Aug 21 21:17:02 <drif> when WD meant quality
Aug 21 21:17:41 <joga> well, this one has worked ok for now, though the first one I got had a bad sector in it so I took it back to the store
Aug 21 21:17:50 <joga> always run badblocks when you get a new drive, heh
Aug 21 21:18:47 <drif> now I only get noisy (scratchy seeks) drives - and it took four drives (two bought, two times straight from the factory) to get a individual which didn't make such a horrible noise I could even consider replacing my DVB-C box's 
Aug 21 21:19:14 <drif> +with
Aug 21 21:19:36 <joga> I'd just like a 10MB+ connection to put a fileserver on
Aug 21 21:19:59 <joga> a few hot swappable drives with raid 
Aug 21 21:20:07 <barnseenio> ask santa
Aug 21 21:20:44 <joga> well, a friend has such a server (or will get one), but the bandwidth is hard to get
Aug 21 21:20:50 <barnseenio> mm
Aug 21 21:20:56 <joga> I could buy a disk and put it on his server then
Aug 21 21:21:00 <barnseenio> i rent a fbsd server
Aug 21 21:21:08 <barnseenio> has good bw, and 100gb disk
Aug 21 21:21:18 <barnseenio> but costs 50USD a month
Aug 21 21:21:24 <joga> ouch
Aug 21 21:21:39 <barnseenio> yes sucks, but we do get roughly enough in donations to cover it
Aug 21 21:21:41 <joga> when I used to live in a dorm I had 10mb/10mb for 33 euros/month
Aug 21 21:22:03 <barnseenio> mm yes, this probly isnt the cheapest, but has good service, and the features we wanted
Aug 21 21:22:17 <joga> good service is usually worth the money..
Aug 21 21:22:24 <barnseenio> yeah lol
Aug 21 21:23:02 <joga> I just recently had a dispute with some company about registering a domain, turned out the company was run by some spammer and they really weren't at all qualified
Aug 21 21:23:15 <barnseenio> ugg
Aug 21 21:23:29 <barnseenio> net disputes suck
Aug 21 21:23:32 <joga> so I paid them less and filed a complaint 
Aug 21 21:24:19 <joga> but no answer yet, also I asked them to send the agreement terms to me on paper over a month ago, but no answer
Aug 21 21:24:33 <barnseenio> sound like 'fly by nights'
Aug 21 21:24:36 <joga> if you happen to live in finland, don't deal with www.osoite.com :)
Aug 21 21:24:42 <barnseenio> lol, im .uk
Aug 21 21:24:54 <joga> they rent their nameservers from uk at least
Aug 21 21:25:18 <barnseenio> problem is everyone who can setup a reseller account thinks theyre an isp
Aug 21 21:25:36 <drif> ah, fellow finn on this channel :P always a pleasant surprise
Aug 21 21:25:46 <barnseenio> sites can often looks proffesional
Aug 21 21:25:48 <joga> the reason I even got to deal with them was that their site had an offer for cheap domains + 1 year of web hosting for 1 euro
Aug 21 21:26:04 <barnseenio> hah nice price
Aug 21 21:26:19 <joga> so I just quickly registered a domain and from the first email I realized it was either a scam or run by idiots
Aug 21 21:26:57 <joga> for example, to change my password I would either need to buy a "control panel" service for X euros / month, OR send my chosen password BY EMAIL to them and ask them to change it
Aug 21 21:26:58 <drif> and all you have paid was 1 euro?
Aug 21 21:27:06 <joga> I paid 45 euros for a .fi domain
Aug 21 21:27:25 <joga> and since ficora sells them for 52 euros, they didn't make any profit with it
Aug 21 21:27:39 <joga> I didn't pay the 1 euro because their service was so full of shit
Aug 21 21:27:48 <barnseenio> .uk domains were 10£ for one year
Aug 21 21:27:58 <joga> .fi is 52 euros for three years
Aug 21 21:28:08 <barnseenio> anyone get a .eu?
Aug 21 21:28:11 <drif> and that's for 3 years?
Aug 21 21:28:18 <jelle> hi sluggers, some documentation says I have to add 'modprobe usbhid' to startup scripts... where should I add it?
Aug 21 21:28:22 <barnseenio> all the ones i wanted seem taken already!
Aug 21 21:28:44 <barnseenio> dont know it jelle 
Aug 21 21:29:03 <jelle> :(
Aug 21 21:29:13 <joga> I got the one I wanted, only 5 letters heh. too bad my isp won't give me a reverse dns entry since running a server is 'prohibited'
Aug 21 21:29:37 <barnseenio> a .eu ?
Aug 21 21:29:38 <drif> under /unslung/ into proper rc.* -file
Aug 21 21:29:53 <joga> barnseenio, .fi I mean, the one I registered 
Aug 21 21:30:01 <barnseenio> ahk
Aug 21 21:30:53 <jelle> thanks drif, but I'm running openslug
Aug 21 21:30:53 <barnseenio> well, i must go to bed - an early start for me tomorrow
Aug 21 21:31:07 <barnseenio> debianslug ftw!
Aug 21 21:32:20 <drif> jelle: ah, sorry then
Aug 21 21:32:44 <drif> jelle: next time mention the configuration ok? ;)
Aug 21 21:33:36 <jelle> sure. thanks anyway :) 
Aug 21 21:36:53 <jelle> I think I found it: I put a script in /etc/init.d and made a symbolic link from the etc/rcxx directory to it.
Aug 21 21:36:59 <jelle> all set I believe.
Aug 21 21:37:15 <jelle> sorry to have anchored your vivid discussion
Aug 21 21:37:18 <jelle> ;)
Aug 21 21:38:37 <drif> (we aren't even talking to you no more)
Aug 21 21:39:12 <jelle> sorry. I'll let you talk, see you next time. bye
Aug 21 21:39:20 <drif> laters jelle :)
Aug 21 21:39:32 <jelle> :)
Aug 21 22:54:28 <Tobbe> I get "Irssi: Invalid charset: ISO8859-1" all the time in irssi on my slug. What can I do to fix that?
Aug 21 23:12:58 <DrJ> hey, is there anyway to get nslookup on my slug
Aug 21 23:38:50 <DrJ> ???
Aug 21 23:54:09 <andreTTi> What packages do I need to get usb sound to work on my slug? Using unslung 6.8 firmware
Aug 21 23:54:35 <andreTTi> I´m trying to follow this guide: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/SlugAsAudioPlayer
Aug 21 23:55:57 <andreTTi> but when I get to the part of installing alsa packages I get error message that ipgk can´t find the alsa packages
Aug 21 23:59:43 <andreTTi> hate beeing a noob
Aug 22 00:00:03 <andreTTi> =)
Aug 22 00:08:40 <DrJ> hey, is there anyway to get nslookup on my slug
Aug 22 00:47:19 <DrJ> CUBS# webalizer
Aug 22 00:47:19 <DrJ> webalizer: error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Aug 22 00:47:19 <DrJ> CUBS#
Aug 22 00:47:26 <DrJ> why do I get that
Aug 22 00:55:20 <RaYmAn-Bx> maybe you lack libexpat? ;)
Aug 22 00:59:52 <DrJ> how could I get it
Aug 22 02:37:19 <jbholman> does the nslu2 revert to the default 192.168.1.77 static ip address when it is in upgrade mode?
Aug 22 02:46:24 <DrJ> not sure
Aug 22 02:46:40 <DrJ> do you have the linksys firmware still on it?
Aug 22 02:47:15 <jbholman> well, i do
Aug 22 02:47:20 <jbholman> i mean, sorry i don't
Aug 22 02:47:23 <jbholman> i flashed openslug to it
Aug 22 02:47:25 <jbholman> some time ago
Aug 22 02:47:57 <jbholman> but never "used it" - then i moved - then i finally bought a hard-drive and external enclosure, then i plugged it back in
Aug 22 02:48:00 <DrJ> then I'm pretty sure it wont
Aug 22 02:48:22 <DrJ> its no big deal if it does really
Aug 22 02:48:27 <DrJ> you can change it back
Aug 22 02:48:29 <jbholman> now, i can't find it on my network  - i tried to find it with nmap
Aug 22 02:48:45 <jbholman> but i can't seem to find the slug so i can reflash it
Aug 22 02:49:02 <DrJ> should show up in your dhcp client table on your router
Aug 22 02:50:29 <jbholman> hmmm, i'm using openWrt and 'cat /tmp/dhcp.leases' only gives me my desktop
Aug 22 02:51:06 <jbholman> it is possible that i configured it to use static IP before i put it away, but i can't be sure :-\
Aug 22 02:51:07 <DrJ> looking at that table is the way I would go
Aug 22 02:54:16 <jbholman> do you mean the dhcp client table on the openWrt web interface?
Aug 22 02:59:53 <jbholman> it is not showing up there either
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