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Sep 16 14:37:32 <Michiel> Good afternoon
Sep 16 14:46:47 <l0c4lh0st> «joshin» sdh, FYI, I put a ram chip heat sink on each CPU which does keep it cooler at 266 than it was at 133 <---- lol.
Sep 16 14:46:57 <l0c4lh0st> There's not a single fan in the NSLU2.
Sep 16 14:47:06 <l0c4lh0st> So how would that heat sink keep it cooler without airflow?
Sep 16 14:47:48 <joshin> Greater surface area for the heat to be disbursed by the tiny amount of airflow.
Sep 16 14:47:57 <joshin> The airflow is by convection (hot air rises)
Sep 16 14:50:08 <joshin> l0c4lh0st, physics is your friend.
Sep 16 14:50:29 <l0c4lh0st> I have better friends.
Sep 16 14:50:51 <Cheef-Daniel> has someone the toolchain and a minute for me?
Sep 16 14:51:06 <joshin> Cheef-Daniel, possibly.  What do you need?
Sep 16 14:51:35 <Cheef-Daniel> ddrescue from http://freshmeat.net/projects/addrescue/
Sep 16 14:51:42 <joshin> l0c4lh0st, was my explanation sufficient or should I explain it to you the same way I did my 5 year old.
Sep 16 14:51:58 <Cheef-Daniel> it builds in my knoppix in ~1 minute
Sep 16 14:52:04 <joshin> Cheef-Daniel, for which firmware?  
Sep 16 14:52:12 <Cheef-Daniel> debianslug
Sep 16 14:53:03 <joshin> I don't have a debianslug toolchain.  I can kick off a build but it will be a while.  Any idea if addrescue is in open embedded?
Sep 16 14:54:21 <Cheef-Daniel> no sorry, but which toolchain do you have?
Sep 16 14:54:46 <joshin> Openslug big endian.  Debianslug is little endian.  
Sep 16 14:54:54 <Cheef-Daniel> I build something for unslung/openslug and it runs under debianslug too
Sep 16 14:54:59 <Cheef-Daniel> maybe it works?
Sep 16 14:55:24 <joshin> Actually, I may be able to help you...  One of my slugs still has debianslug on it (was going to move it to openslug today) and it has a compiler.  Give me a minute.
Sep 16 14:55:41 <Cheef-Daniel> merci
Sep 16 14:57:10 <Cheef-Daniel> why do you change it to openslug?
Sep 16 14:57:27 <l0c4lh0st> «joshin» l0c4lh0st, was my explanation sufficient or should I explain it to you the same way I did my 5 year old. <--- Drop that attitude, moron.
Sep 16 14:57:36 <joshin> Because currently the ethernet driver is 25% more efficient on openslug than on debianslug
Sep 16 14:57:53 <joshin> l0c4lh0st, Nope.  I like the attitude just fine.  You're the one that started with attitude.
Sep 16 14:58:06 <l0c4lh0st> Got you on ignore anyway.
Sep 16 14:58:29 <joshin> l0c4lh0st, that's great.  Then I can talk about you and you can't see what I'm saying.
Sep 16 15:04:34 <joshin> Cheef-Daniel, you still around?
Sep 16 15:04:41 <Cheef-Daniel> yes
Sep 16 15:04:46 <joshin> Compiling...  
Sep 16 15:04:53 <Cheef-Daniel> thx
Sep 16 15:05:01 <joshin> How should I get the file to you?
Sep 16 15:05:48 <joshin> Never mind, I can PM you a URL
Sep 16 15:05:56 <Cheef-Daniel> you see the query?
Sep 16 15:06:59 <joshin> yes
Sep 16 15:07:10 <Cheef-Daniel> ok
Sep 16 15:11:08 <joshin> URL pasted.  Enjoy!
Sep 16 15:31:20 <Mika_> someone else have this problem when you start bitlbee :
Sep 16 15:31:22 <Mika_> bash-3.1# bitlbee
Sep 16 15:31:23 <Mika_> bitlbee: error while loading shared libraries: libgnutls.so.12: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Sep 16 15:31:35 <Mika_> with unslung 6.8
Sep 16 15:35:56 <joshin> Mika_, not running unslung so can't really help.  Does the library exist on your machine?
Sep 16 15:46:24 <chopped_pork> hi... trying to get together a zd1211b package for my wifi dongle, cannot get the toolchain to build on my pc (gcc doesn't build) so i'm trying to compile it natively
Sep 16 15:46:34 <chopped_pork> but... monotone in openslug is 0.25
Sep 16 15:46:37 <chopped_pork> :(
Sep 16 15:46:47 <chopped_pork> can i find a package with a newer version somewhere?
Sep 16 15:48:19 <chopped_pork> or maybe can i do make setup on my pc and transfer the directory to the slug (so that mtn doesn't get involved)?
Sep 16 15:48:46 <chopped_pork> was afraid this might cause some problems with different platforms etc
Sep 16 16:09:27 <chopped_pork> hmm looks like it worked... but still cannot get the package to compile
Sep 16 16:09:32 <chopped_pork> make: *** /home/slug/slug/openslug/tmp/staging/armeb-linux/kernel: No such file or directory.  Stop.
Sep 16 16:09:35 <chopped_pork> :/
Sep 16 16:10:49 <chopped_pork> i guess i should bb some kernel package, but which?
Sep 16 16:11:21 <chopped_pork> ixp4xx-kernel looks reasonable to me
Sep 16 16:11:23 <chopped_pork> but..
Sep 16 16:11:55 <chopped_pork> and all this for one small kernel module :)
Sep 16 17:12:32 <Mika_> joshin: i think not..but in what package is that .lib
Sep 16 17:13:22 <joshin> Mika_, Again since I don't run unslung so I have no idea.  You can manually browse the feed directory to hunt for it.
Sep 16 17:17:57 <Mika_> Yes i use http://ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org/
Sep 16 17:18:09 <Mika_> But i am sure it worked before..or maybe it was in 5.5
Sep 16 19:56:39 <caplink811-log> Mika_, ping?
Sep 16 20:01:05 <caplink811-log> Mika_, for your log, it seems, that the actual gnutls package based on libgnutls v13, or 0.13, anyway, it installed something like lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root     19 Sep  2 15:05 /opt/lib/libgnutls.so.13 -> libgnutls.so.13.0.5
Sep 16 20:02:27 <caplink811-log> which don't satisfies the needs of bitlbee.. maybe it is possible to make a link from /opt/lib/libgnutls.so.12 to /opt/lib/libgnutls.so.13
Sep 16 20:05:18 <caplink811-log> on the other hand, you can run "strace bitlee", and you may get a clue, where bitlbee fails, and why, maybe, it looks in a wrong directory
Sep 16 20:21:53 <Mika_> pls wait caplink811-log i wil read it later...
Sep 16 20:22:02 <Mika_> i have now a call
Sep 16 20:22:09 <caplink811-log> np
Sep 16 21:12:37 <Tobbe> Hi. What is the recomended version of gcc when crosscompiling for the slug?
Sep 16 21:17:49 <caplink811-log> dunno, if the wiki mentioned about any recommended versions, but with my ubuntu6.06 (gcc 4.01 afair), it works well
Sep 16 21:21:03 <Tobbe> The wiki says 3.3, but that page is pretty old
Sep 16 21:30:41 <sdh> shit
Sep 16 21:30:50 <sdh> lilo is dead :(
Sep 16 21:32:12 <Tobbe> yeah, I read. It's crazy!
Sep 16 21:32:33 <sdh> i didnt believe it at first, only heard 5 mins ago
Sep 16 21:32:36 <sdh> it's shit
Sep 16 21:54:54 <Tobbe> Is it still version 2.1 of the intel files I should use? (the latest version is 2.3)
Sep 16 21:56:46 <EvilDevil> Tobbe, yes, but you could use the ixp_npe modules instead (requires more work though)
Sep 16 21:57:58 <EvilDevil> http://www.hohnstaedt.de/ixp_npe/
Sep 16 21:59:03 <Tobbe> looks complicated
Sep 16 21:59:19 <Tobbe> :)
Sep 16 22:05:13 <EvilDevil> i guess you should stick with the intel files instead ;)
Sep 16 22:07:27 <Tobbe> yeah, but where do I get them? I can only see version 2.3 on the intel page
Sep 16 22:08:12 <Tobbe> here: http://www.intel.com/design/network/products/npfamily/ixp400_current.htm
Sep 16 22:10:41 <EvilDevil> Tobbe, nslu2-linux.org -> Development -> Optaining Intel Sources. there's a link for the old releases
Sep 16 22:10:58 <hiiiii>     _____
Sep 16 22:11:00 <hiiiii>  _/ __|_\__O/  LOL
Sep 16 22:11:02 <hiiiii> |          \\   @
Sep 16 22:11:04 <hiiiii> [`-()----()-'/\ LILO
Sep 16 22:14:18 <EvilDevil> http://www.intel.com/design/network/products/npfamily/download_ixp400.htm
Sep 16 22:15:25 * caplink811-log thinks about a medical treatment ...
Sep 16 22:16:01 <Tobbe> EvilDevil: thanks :)
Sep 16 22:16:22 <EvilDevil> Tobbe, np, i was looking for these files some weeks ago too :)
Sep 16 22:16:50 <Tobbe> should I get with or without encryption?
Sep 16 22:20:48 <Tobbe> "[Unslung 6, requires version 2.1 without Crypto : cwatts ]"
Sep 16 22:25:47 <EvilDevil> without is fine
Sep 16 22:28:22 <Tobbe> yeah, that's what I gathered from that comment :)
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