**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 06 02:59:57 2006
Oct 06 13:13:46 <NSLU2-IRC> Hello there ...
Oct 06 13:15:01 <NSLU2-IRC> I got Debian running on my stock Slug (133 MHz, 32 MB RAM) ...
Oct 06 13:15:36 <NSLU2-IRC> but it's rather slow. I can't believe that some people have Apache + Gallery2 running on the machine!
Oct 06 13:15:57 <NSLU2-IRC> Is it necessary to de-underclock and fatten the box?
Oct 06 13:17:52 <sdh> i imagine it'll run, slowly
Oct 06 13:19:58 <NSLU2-IRC> I tried and while I get to see the main page I run out of memory when I want to display a slideshow of an album :|
Oct 06 13:20:20 <sdh> oh hm
Oct 06 13:20:26 <NSLU2-IRC> but will the de-underclocking make a bit performance difference?
Oct 06 13:20:29 <sdh> sorry, I don't know gallery2 - I was thinking of igal
Oct 06 13:20:34 <sdh> well, it'll double bogomips :)
Oct 06 13:20:39 <sdh> i have mine at 266, they're fine
Oct 06 13:20:42 <NSLU2-IRC> understood :)
Oct 06 13:20:57 <NSLU2-IRC> right now I'm running rtorrent with 4 torrents and the box is rather choking
Oct 06 13:21:09 <sdh> heheh.
Oct 06 13:21:20 <sdh> i wanted to run a tor router on mine, but had some problems
Oct 06 13:21:23 <sdh> other than that, it seems fine
Oct 06 13:21:54 <NSLU2-IRC> did you up the RAM?
Oct 06 13:22:04 <sdh> no way man, I'm a software person :)
Oct 06 13:22:28 <NSLU2-IRC> hm, me too, my soldering skills are non-existent
Oct 06 13:22:48 <NSLU2-IRC> so what are you using the slug for?
Oct 06 13:23:13 <NSLU2-IRC> originally I wanted torrents + web server, but that seems a bit too much for it
Oct 06 13:24:43 <NSLU2-IRC> oops, got disconnected
Oct 06 13:25:23 <sdh> doh
Oct 06 16:35:00 <Cheef-Daniel>  is it possible to restore a image (>320Gb) with dd?
Oct 06 16:41:40 <joshin> Yes.
Oct 06 16:41:52 <joshin> Depending on how/what you did to make the image.
Oct 06 16:42:27 <Cheef-Daniel> I rescued my damaged disk with addrescue into a image file
Oct 06 16:42:50 <Cheef-Daniel> normaly I should mount it with the loop option
Oct 06 16:43:07 <Cheef-Daniel> but its not possible because the partitiontable is lost
Oct 06 16:59:33 <joshin> Cheef-Daniel, it should work.  Though you are going to need to make a new partion table.
Oct 06 16:59:50 <joshin> I've taken an image and written it to disk using both dd and cat.  :)
Oct 06 20:36:57 <capbot> mika_ :)
Oct 06 20:40:37 <Mika_> capbot: :)
Oct 06 21:08:23 <ibedonc_lt> hello
Oct 06 21:08:39 <caplink811_log> morning
Oct 06 21:08:56 <ibedonc_lt> cat any answer q's on debianslug
Oct 06 21:08:59 <ibedonc_lt> can
Oct 06 21:09:12 <caplink811_log> ~ask
Oct 06 21:09:13 <capbot> If you have a question, just ask, maybe someone have an answer... sometimes.
Oct 06 21:09:26 <ibedonc_lt> on the bootstrap page
Oct 06 21:09:44 <ibedonc_lt> the link to the modules , they will not install
Oct 06 21:09:58 <ibedonc_lt> did a sarge setup
Oct 06 21:10:41 <ibedonc_lt> none of the kernel-modules will install for me
Oct 06 21:14:47 <ibedonc_lt> package architecture (ixp4xxle) does not match system (arm)
Oct 06 21:16:16 <ibedonc_lt> maybe I am in wrong channel
Oct 06 21:17:38 <caplink811_log> no, the channel is the right one, but it is not a real time support channel, so you should stay online for some hours, maybe that someone read the logs, and have an answer about your topic
Oct 06 21:18:13 <ibedonc_lt> I know it is not a realtime support 
Oct 06 21:18:18 <ibedonc_lt> I am not new to IRC
Oct 06 21:18:41 <ibedonc_lt> just saw openslug channels after I asked here
Oct 06 21:19:42 <ibedonc_lt> so I install debian slug - sarge and none of the kernal modules on page in link will work
Oct 06 21:20:47 <ibedonc_lt> other wise I like the new disto
Oct 06 21:20:58 <ibedonc_lt> better then the last one
Oct 06 21:23:04 <ibedonc_lt> ran into that when I try to install nfsd kernel modules
Oct 06 21:23:37 <joshin> ibedonc_lt, what nfsd kernel modules?  You need to install the debianslug kernel modules & not the debian ones
Oct 06 21:23:52 <ibedonc_lt> right
Oct 06 21:24:13 <joshin> From where did you get the nfsd kernel modules?
Oct 06 21:24:30 <ibedonc_lt> from the link on bootstrap page
Oct 06 21:24:50 <ibedonc_lt> http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/debianslug/cross/3.10-beta/
Oct 06 21:25:03 <ibedonc_lt> but none of those will install
Oct 06 21:25:03 <joshin> and you are running 3.10 beta too?
Oct 06 21:25:07 <ibedonc_lt> yes
Oct 06 21:25:16 <ibedonc_lt> sarge 
Oct 06 21:25:18 <ibedonc_lt> not sid
Oct 06 21:26:05 <joshin> I know not of sarge or sid.  Have you tried installing the modules on the bare slug with no drive attached?
Oct 06 21:26:18 <ibedonc_lt> no
Oct 06 21:26:23 <sdh> can i interject with a quick question?
Oct 06 21:26:27 <ibedonc_lt> yes
Oct 06 21:26:28 <joshin> no
Oct 06 21:26:31 <sdh> heh
Oct 06 21:26:44 <joshin> you already did sdh.  I'm ignoring you now.  
Oct 06 21:26:44 <sdh> my debianslug nslu2 boxes idle at 1.00 load average
Oct 06 21:26:48 <sdh> is this a feature or a bug?
Oct 06 21:26:48 <joshin>  /ignore sdh
Oct 06 21:26:50 <sdh> and heh, joshin :)
Oct 06 21:27:05 <joshin>   If I wasn't ignoring sdh I'd tell him that it was normal (and annoying)
Oct 06 21:27:09 <ibedonc_lt> I think that is normal
Oct 06 21:27:15 <sdh> do you know why it is?
Oct 06 21:27:20 <caplink811_log> sdh, that is a feature (aka normal behavior)
Oct 06 21:27:28 <ibedonc_lt> eth driver 
Oct 06 21:27:31 <sdh> caplink811_log: ah, interesting - got any reference/doc about it?
Oct 06 21:27:34 <sdh> ichilton: i heard something about that
Oct 06 21:27:57 <ibedonc_lt> from what I remember
Oct 06 21:28:03 <caplink811_log> sdh, do a quick research at www.nslu-linux.org...
Oct 06 21:28:11 <sdh> caplink811_log: i did :P
Oct 06 21:28:28 <sdh> sorry i didn't mean to interrupt anyway
Oct 06 21:28:30 <sdh> thanks ;-)
Oct 06 21:28:50 <caplink811_log> there shold be a faq about that, afair
Oct 06 21:29:00 <sdh> i'll write one if i can find reference
Oct 06 21:29:10 <caplink811_log> s/shold/should
Oct 06 21:29:28 <ibedonc_lt> so do I have to install those drivers without HDD booted ?
Oct 06 21:29:58 <ibedonc_lt> then copy them to hdd
Oct 06 21:29:59 <joshin> ibedonc_lt, I suggested that you try it to lessen the variables 
Oct 06 21:30:28 <ibedonc_lt> well I was just following that www page
Oct 06 21:30:40 <joshin> During the 2 days that I tried debian slug, I had no problems with the modules and config that you did.  (I followed the config there too)
Oct 06 21:31:15 <ibedonc_lt> how long ago was that
Oct 06 21:31:24 * joshin got bored with debian slug and the slower current network performance and went to gentoo-slug
Oct 06 21:31:33 <joshin> month or 2 ago
Oct 06 21:32:00 <ibedonc_lt> that is debian based also
Oct 06 21:32:10 <joshin> nope
Oct 06 21:32:17 <joshin> Openslug based as is debian slug
Oct 06 21:32:55 <joshin> debian slug is a LE build of openslug with the debian stuff bolted on 
Oct 06 21:32:56 <ibedonc_lt> well I have another slug to upgrade maybe I try that
Oct 06 21:35:16 <ibedonc_lt> oh now I know why I did not do gentoo , very spare install
Oct 06 21:35:19 <ibedonc_lt> page
Oct 06 21:36:20 <joshin> Chicken!  :)
Oct 06 21:36:44 <joshin> http://www.roadrunner.cx/gentooslug/
Oct 06 21:36:58 <joshin> His build is ready to go.  Mine will be in a couple days or so.
Oct 06 21:37:55 <ibedonc_lt> well , I upgrade mine to help a freind to do his and he would not of been able to do gentoo , it was hard enough getting him thu debian
Oct 06 21:38:37 <joshin> Building a stage 3 to handle all the install stuff makes it easy.  Ok, easier!  Ok, tolerable!  :)
Oct 06 21:39:28 <ibedonc_lt> :)
Oct 06 21:39:47 <ibedonc_lt> so use same kernel modules ?
Oct 06 21:40:19 <ibedonc_lt> is gentoo LE or BE ?
Oct 06 21:40:51 <ibedonc_lt> ok that answer that
Oct 06 21:40:52 <ibedonc_lt> BE
Oct 06 21:40:57 <ibedonc_lt> README
Oct 06 21:41:27 <joshin> :)
Oct 06 21:41:48 <joshin> Debian uses different kernel modules than Gentoo/OpenSlug
Oct 06 21:44:47 <ibedonc_lt> I have 2 other slugs to upgrade , so will try one on gentoo
Oct 06 21:45:12 <ibedonc_lt> 3 in my farm now :)
Oct 06 21:45:45 <sdh> just two here :)
Oct 06 21:45:50 <ibedonc_lt> will end up using them for solar / wind energy stuff on my place
Oct 06 21:45:53 <sdh> anybody here familiar with Tor?
Oct 06 21:46:18 <ibedonc_lt> solar PV tracker is one 
Oct 06 21:46:32 <ibedonc_lt> nope Sdh
Oct 06 21:46:38 <ibedonc_lt> what is that
Oct 06 21:46:50 <sdh> ichilton: it's an internet privacy tool
Oct 06 21:46:56 <sdh> oops, i mean ibedonc_lt 
Oct 06 21:47:28 * ibedonc_lt only run Linux apps 
Oct 06 21:47:41 <ibedonc_lt> if that is a Windows one
Oct 06 21:48:08 <ibedonc_lt> maybe why never heard of it
Oct 06 21:48:55 <sdh> there is windows, unix, mac
Oct 06 21:49:06 <sdh> i dont use windows but i believe it works
Oct 06 22:26:44 <ibedonc_lt> The load of a slug at rest is at least 1.00
Oct 06 22:26:44 <ibedonc_lt>                                because the ixp400_eth.ko module is badly written
Oct 06 22:26:45 <ibedonc_lt>                                and causes a 1.00 load always, although the CPU
Oct 06 22:26:45 <ibedonc_lt>                                usage is nil. Zero, nothing, not a single cycle
Oct 06 22:26:45 <ibedonc_lt>                                used, but a 1.00 load nonetheless... :-( Go into
Oct 06 22:26:46 <ibedonc_lt>                                CSR code to understand that if you can. I resigned.
Oct 06 22:26:46 <ibedonc_lt>                                So remove this 1.00 in later calculations.
Oct 06 22:27:05 <ibedonc_lt> found it
Oct 06 22:27:28 <ibedonc_lt> sdh
Oct 06 22:31:17 <sdh> ibedonc_lt: awesome, thanks. URL?
Oct 06 22:31:46 <ibedonc_lt> http://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=5828&p=3
Oct 06 22:31:52 <sdh> thanks
Oct 06 22:31:57 <ibedonc_lt> ailing list about high system load with ixp400_eth module [1]:
Oct 06 22:31:57 <ibedonc_lt> Try adding this lines to modules.conf/modprobe.conf
Oct 06 22:31:58 <ibedonc_lt> options ixp425_eth datapath_poll=0
Oct 06 22:31:58 <ibedonc_lt> # Note that "datapath_poll=0" will only be usefull if ixp400_eth is compiled w/o NAPI.
Oct 06 22:31:58 <ibedonc_lt> # If NAPI support is compiled in, this is ignored.
Oct 06 22:31:59 <ibedonc_lt> options ixp400_eth datapath_poll=0 npe_learning=0
Oct 06 22:33:05 <sdh> not sure where the sources are
Oct 06 22:33:49 <ibedonc_lt> intel code
Oct 06 22:33:54 <sdh> ah
Oct 06 22:33:59 <ibedonc_lt> not open source
Oct 06 22:34:03 <sdh> right
Oct 06 22:34:08 <sdh> well i have IDA... :)
Oct 06 22:34:12 <sdh> but not at five to midnight
Oct 06 22:34:18 <ibedonc_lt> :)
Oct 06 22:35:13 <ibedonc_lt> the freecom looks interesting
Oct 06 22:35:47 <ibedonc_lt> more memory / ports
Oct 06 22:37:22 <sdh> url? :)
Oct 06 22:37:50 <ibedonc_lt> project link on nslu2 page
Oct 06 22:38:00 <ibedonc_lt> nslu2-linux
Oct 06 22:40:16 <sdh> the site is slow... :)
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