**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Nov 05 02:59:57 2006 Nov 05 07:49:40 hey all Nov 05 07:49:51 ANyoen here using debian on there nslu2-general Nov 05 07:50:06 im having some major problems with apache2-2-common not having my config files :S Nov 05 07:50:14 or the mods. Nov 05 07:51:49 i jsut spent 3 hours uninstallign reinstalling lol Nov 05 07:51:50 :( Nov 05 08:01:02 wow Nov 05 08:01:07 new debian patch gotta try it out Nov 05 09:32:40 hi all Nov 05 09:32:51 whos using the upgrade version of debian my light shows red when everythign is fine :) Nov 05 09:34:50 hmm Nov 05 09:37:27 hrm Nov 05 09:37:29 ill ask tomorrow Nov 05 15:30:20 /server irc.freenode.net Nov 05 15:30:29 /join #nslu2-linux Nov 05 18:03:45 hi all Nov 05 18:03:47 anyone around? Nov 05 18:04:01 Im using debian linux and my lights stuck on red but its working Nov 05 18:04:19 I did the upgrade procedure on the debian lsu2 site Nov 05 18:13:08 red, not orange? Nov 05 18:14:08 noits red Nov 05 18:14:21 or maybe dark orange Nov 05 18:14:32 But i'm using it fine Nov 05 18:15:01 its the new debian 2.6.17 kernel Nov 05 18:15:29 is this a known issue Nov 05 18:15:59 is there something i should check... Nov 05 18:17:53 oh, not sure, im using the older version Nov 05 18:18:03 yes i was using sid and i decided to upgrade lol Nov 05 18:18:09 bad mistake on my part i guess. Nov 05 18:18:14 heh Nov 05 18:18:26 mine running sweet .. im fighting the urge to tinker Nov 05 18:18:27 i thought it was broken :) Nov 05 18:18:32 *mine's Nov 05 18:18:42 oh.. i thought it was broken withthe red light but i noticed my ping active :) Nov 05 18:19:28 I was having trouble with apache2 ... the mod_auth isnt working so im stryignto reinstall Nov 05 18:19:38 i see Nov 05 18:19:44 i think im running v1 apache Nov 05 18:19:47 of course not the WHOLE thing just apache2 :) Nov 05 18:20:17 i have an issue with apache, Nov 05 18:20:44 whats that Nov 05 18:20:53 in that whenever i upgrade something (such as php etc) the upgrade process removes a few key files like the one that lists all included modules Nov 05 18:21:23 hmm.. it should give you an option Nov 05 18:21:28 to rewrite or keep your existing configuration Nov 05 18:21:54 it usually just loses the file and creates a new one which symlinks to nothing Nov 05 18:22:05 oh.. Nov 05 18:22:09 i say usually, its happened twice (two times i upgraded anything) Nov 05 18:22:48 This is apache 1 right? i'm not sure i dontuse it.. Nov 05 18:23:24 <_ObSeSsIoN_> hi everyone [[]] Nov 05 18:23:28 hey Nov 05 18:23:33 well, i just copy the conf files just incase Nov 05 18:23:40 <_ObSeSsIoN_> :) Nov 05 18:23:40 Obsession you using the new debian? Nov 05 18:24:00 <_ObSeSsIoN_> nope, I'm trying to get Gentoo/SLUG installed on my brand new NSLU2 Nov 05 18:24:07 oh my Nov 05 18:24:09 yer a brave man :) Nov 05 18:24:14 and a patient one :) Nov 05 18:24:24 lol Nov 05 18:24:26 <_ObSeSsIoN_> I'm trying to use "jake1981"'s stage3 image from the Gentoo forums Nov 05 18:24:35 any reason your keen on using gentoo? Nov 05 18:24:37 <_ObSeSsIoN_> his latest image, build with gcc-4 Nov 05 18:25:08 Barnseenio: Does it take a long time for you to install packages on your nslu2 Nov 05 18:25:14 <_ObSeSsIoN_> barnseenio: just my fav distro, I use it on my Vaio and on my old server Nov 05 18:25:27 no EnterUserName, everythings zippy Nov 05 18:25:27 i usually sit there for like 5 minutes or more Nov 05 18:25:30 crap Nov 05 18:25:31 !? Nov 05 18:25:42 no - nothing like 5 mins Nov 05 18:25:43 when i do apt-get install it takes 5 minutes to install a package maybe my nslu2 is broken :( Nov 05 18:25:48 <_ObSeSsIoN_> well, I haven't got to that stage yet because it won't bring up eth0....:\ Nov 05 18:25:49 ugg Nov 05 18:26:04 i never tried gentoo, but im really happy with deb Nov 05 18:26:05 <_ObSeSsIoN_> but you can use distcc when building packages from source Nov 05 18:26:18 <_ObSeSsIoN_> anyone here using Gentoo on their SLUG? Nov 05 18:26:49 ive successfully been able to compile things like libtorrent/rtorrent on my slug, i had a go at setting up a crosscompile env, but i wasted 3 days on it and get effectively nowhere Nov 05 18:27:11 <_ObSeSsIoN_> hmmm, that sucks :( Nov 05 18:27:48 <_ObSeSsIoN_> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-289724-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-nslu2+mysql-start-50.html Nov 05 18:28:05 hrm.. Nov 05 18:28:12 <_ObSeSsIoN_> this pre-build stage of Gentoo/SLUG already comes with distcc set-up for cross compiling Nov 05 18:28:13 i wonder why it takes so long to install apkg :S Nov 05 18:28:28 <_ObSeSsIoN_> but...I'm running into a few problems setting it up Nov 05 18:28:36 <_ObSeSsIoN_> just a sec, brb Nov 05 18:28:44 <_ObSeSsIoN_> I'm still using my old nickname Nov 05 18:28:44 <_ObSeSsIoN_> lol Nov 05 18:29:06 * EnterUserName starts to worry.. I dont wanna buy a new slug :p Nov 05 18:29:16 heh no that would suck Nov 05 18:29:33 Well I guess i could buy one and switch the board.. (heh) Nov 05 18:29:35 and then return it Nov 05 18:29:57 So how long lets say does it take to installa pkg.. for you Nov 05 18:29:59 and to go thruogh the database Nov 05 18:30:01 naughty naughty Nov 05 18:30:15 err, of course depends - but seconds not minutes Nov 05 18:30:21 hrm Nov 05 18:30:26 ya this si at least a few minutes Nov 05 18:30:37 sure your sources are ok? Nov 05 18:30:42 im pretty sure Nov 05 18:30:50 its not downloading itsunpackign and reading database Nov 05 18:30:56 i see Nov 05 18:31:01 hrm.. Nov 05 18:31:07 how do i try clearing the database Nov 05 18:31:21 no idea, im a noob Nov 05 18:31:26 hrm Nov 05 18:32:39 do you run samba on your slug? Nov 05 18:33:12 back Nov 05 18:33:25 i think ill buy a new slug seeif it fixes it :) Nov 05 18:33:35 yes i run samba Nov 05 18:33:50 i just installed swat and set it up via that Nov 05 18:34:47 * EnterUserName is frustrated darn stupdi thing :) Nov 05 18:35:12 cant 'flatten' it? Nov 05 18:35:28 flatten it? Nov 05 18:35:30 > apache -v Nov 05 18:35:30 Server version: Apache/1.3.34 (Debian) Nov 05 18:35:30 Server built: Jan 10 2006 11:32:01 Nov 05 18:35:49 no im frustrated that it takes so long to install packages Nov 05 18:35:51 reformat everything and start again Nov 05 18:35:56 no i dont wanna do that :p Nov 05 18:36:01 heh Nov 05 18:36:04 mm Nov 05 18:36:05 afk Nov 05 18:36:06 actually that kinda scaresme :p Nov 05 18:36:06 good luck Nov 05 18:39:53 hi guys, anyone running the slug with mt-daapd as an itunes server? Nov 05 18:45:05 Can anyonehelp me my Auth_Basic isn ot workign withthe new apache Nov 05 18:45:13 apache2 Nov 05 18:45:38 im using AllowOverRide All Nov 05 18:45:47 I do not want to remove apache from my slug, but how do I stop it from starting on boot Nov 05 18:45:48 ? Nov 05 18:52:14 anyone? Nov 05 18:55:45 so no one here is running Gentoo on their NSLU2 ? Nov 05 19:09:11 DrJ, your slug works with which firmware? Nov 05 19:10:11 EnterUserName, about your led issues, imho is there a separate package for the led control, try apt-cache search slugtool (may help) Nov 05 19:10:13 I got it, nvm, but thanks Nov 05 19:42:00 Hi, Nov 05 19:42:50 I just want to know if it's possible to put documentation in a pdf document Nov 05 19:44:39 ? Nov 05 19:45:12 Yes, the idea is to make collaboratively a pdf with the contents of the wiki for desktop users Nov 05 19:46:17 ? Nov 05 19:47:26 the wiki should be dynamically, that behavior isn't reflected in a pdf doc. but as we're a community, be the 1st and try it :) Nov 05 19:49:08 ByronT, :) Nov 05 19:49:32 Yes. I like to try, but the main reason I don't start is that i found doc in wiki some way confuse Nov 05 19:49:36 For example Nov 05 19:50:13 hello caplink Nov 05 19:50:26 Many names: openslug, debianslug, .... optware packages, unslung packages, etc . Nov 05 19:50:50 been on a troubleshooting / quixotic quest with Google Desktop search... no having to clean up the mess Nov 05 19:51:00 s/no/now Nov 05 19:51:24 Perhaps it needs some polish Nov 05 19:51:33 in my opinion and with regards Nov 05 19:53:08 it's centered in nslu2 but there is other machines it use the code. But all the code (OpenSlug is the same for DS101 and for nslu2?, etc) Nov 05 19:53:26 What do you think? Nov 05 19:57:28 what am I thinking about? Nov 05 19:57:38 well, the project started on the nlsu2 platform.. Nov 05 19:57:57 Yes, the idea is to make collaboratively a pdf with the contents of the wiki for desktop users Nov 05 19:58:31 ByronT, ^^^^^^ Nov 05 19:58:33 I offer my person to collaborate for making the pdf Nov 05 19:58:50 How do we make it? Nov 05 19:59:05 (There is any tool for that?) Nov 05 20:02:56 dunno, myself use only a pdf printer driver, but i think, that this isn't the right tool for this intention Nov 05 20:03:22 Perhaps if you install a sobby in the server, we could collaborate and create the pdf writting the latex code Nov 05 20:04:28 I think that the idea is not clonate all the documentation of the wiki else resume (compact it) it Nov 05 20:05:41 according to http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/PmWiki2PDF, it should be possible, but only with the helpfull hand from a wiki admin Nov 05 20:06:20 hi all Nov 05 20:06:26 Who here is using debian slug? Nov 05 20:06:33 morning, EnterUserName :) Nov 05 20:06:39 mornign.. its afternoon :) Nov 05 20:06:44 though i did get up 2 hours ago :) Nov 05 20:06:44 ~ugt Nov 05 20:06:45 methinks ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. Nov 05 20:06:56 * EnterUserName laughs: ) Nov 05 20:07:29 EnterUserName, did you read my post above? Nov 05 20:07:51 So who here did the upgrade to the latest debian linux :) Nov 05 20:07:51 yes i did: ) Nov 05 20:07:51 k Nov 05 20:08:06 Yes, but it translate all the content? How it works? Nov 05 20:08:08 My light is red even though everything is workign.. im just wondernig if the leds are buggy in the debian 2.6.17 Nov 05 20:08:38 xan_, dunno... Nov 05 20:09:16 dunno? Nov 05 20:09:16 EnterUserName, not me, one slug runs on opendebslug, the other is on unlsung-5.5 Nov 05 20:09:26 what it means? Nov 05 20:09:27 ~wtf dunno Nov 05 20:09:30 Gee... I don't know what dunno means... Nov 05 20:09:30 EnterUserName, I recall reading in the debian.arm newsgroup that the "red led" is a bug Nov 05 20:09:51 or at least, that others are experiencing that too Nov 05 20:10:01 The other thing is what would cause it to take so logn to read from the database Nov 05 20:10:01 xan_, i meant, don't know how it works Nov 05 20:10:06 it takes like 3-5 minutes for something to install Nov 05 20:10:15 is my slug broken/ Nov 05 20:10:52 everything seems to be fine except dpkg... Nov 05 20:11:15 EnterUserName, your dns resulution is functional? Nov 05 20:11:28 well... and so? Nov 05 20:11:30 I tink so. Nov 05 20:11:43 its when its reading fromt he database Nov 05 20:11:50 or unpacking that takes a while Nov 05 20:12:05 its mainly stuck onth WAI Nov 05 20:12:14 so it woudl be 13,0,0,id0,wa90 Nov 05 20:12:16 so waiting 90 Nov 05 20:12:19 EnterUserName, you could report to linux.debian.ports.arm in the post where the lastest debian is announced Nov 05 20:12:40 Byront: I was having this problem with sid too i think Nov 05 20:12:47 thats why im wondering if i broke my slug Nov 05 20:13:07 EnterUserName, WAI ???? Nov 05 20:13:09 im not sure how i woudl be able to tell Nov 05 20:13:14 62.7wa Nov 05 20:13:25 8.0%us, 14.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 0.0%id, 65.6%wa, Nov 05 20:13:50 thats the cpu usage Nov 05 20:15:06 So how would i do diagnostics to see if my slugs broken? Nov 05 20:17:06 from that mailing list, I just read " Nov 05 20:17:06 There's no LED support in 2.6.17. The 2.6.18 TODO list Nov 05 20:17:08 " Nov 05 20:17:32 Byront: Thank you for the led problem but how about the CPU problm is it possible i broke my slug? Nov 05 20:17:48 i took it apart and i think i might have clipped a resitor i should'nt have by accident Nov 05 20:19:03 what does %wa stand for Nov 05 20:19:05 waiting on what? Nov 05 20:19:10 how cani tell? Nov 05 20:19:27 i/o wait Nov 05 20:19:42 so could that be something that i broke on the nlsu? Nov 05 20:19:57 it could be busy waiting the disk for example Nov 05 20:20:02 hmm Nov 05 20:20:03 ok Nov 05 20:20:16 hmm Nov 05 20:20:16 ya Nov 05 20:20:24 I didn't read the buffer so dunno about your problem really... Nov 05 20:20:38 Ok.. I might have clipped a resistor i shouldn't have Nov 05 20:20:48 'might have'? :) Nov 05 20:20:50 i dont think i did but I was wondering if I did would that cause a I/O Nov 05 20:20:50 ya Nov 05 20:20:55 did you overclock it? Nov 05 20:20:57 yup Nov 05 20:21:03 is it overclocked? Nov 05 20:21:10 yes i overclocked it Nov 05 20:21:17 you only removed one resistor? Nov 05 20:21:20 yup Nov 05 20:21:24 then it's probably fine Nov 05 20:21:30 why is it so slow then :) Nov 05 20:21:34 nothings accessign it thati know of Nov 05 20:21:47 does it see the disk properly? Nov 05 20:21:52 and can you use it at all? Nov 05 20:21:52 EnterUserName, if cat /proc/cpuinfo shows you a bogomips ~266.xx then you snap out the right resistor Nov 05 20:22:04 yes i can use it Nov 05 20:22:20 and the disks are workign its just when i run apt-get install *package name* Nov 05 20:22:26 have you tried logging in the slug and typing dmesg Nov 05 20:22:29 yup Nov 05 20:22:47 Memory policy: ECC disabled, Data cache writeback Nov 05 20:22:49 hrm.. Nov 05 20:23:41 I really dont see anything with errors.. Nov 05 20:24:53 copwhat did the cat /proc/cpuinfo show? Nov 05 20:24:58 266 Nov 05 20:25:17 i dont understand why its so slow Nov 05 20:25:26 what are you using to connect to it? putty, telnet, etc? Nov 05 20:25:33 telent Nov 05 20:25:34 erk ssh Nov 05 20:25:37 unix Nov 05 20:25:40 Cache type : undefined 5 Nov 05 20:25:40 Cache clean : undefined 5 Nov 05 20:25:40 Cache lockdown : undefined 5 Nov 05 20:25:42 is that normal? Nov 05 20:25:57 may be, that something messed up your database Nov 05 20:26:20 umm, so only apt-get is slow? Nov 05 20:26:51 Looks like it yes.. How could i tell? i get about 4455kbs a second when copying Nov 05 20:29:03 how long does it take to install a package then? Nov 05 20:29:18 like 5 minutes Nov 05 20:29:34 do you have any free memory? Nov 05 20:30:04 EnterUserName, what is your result when running time dpkg -L mc (assuming, that mc is installed) Nov 05 20:30:18 the slug ain't a number cruncher and doesn't have much mem so I wouldn't mind waiting a couple of minutes for it to install a package...especially when you don't need to do it very often, maybe once when you set up the thing :) Nov 05 20:30:45 thats very quick Nov 05 20:30:56 qpkg -L mc Nov 05 20:31:14 Mem: 30080k total, 25372k used, 4708k free, 1984k buffers Nov 05 20:31:14 Swap: 1012072k total, 11480k used, 1000592k free, 10724k cached Nov 05 20:32:12 it might be memory. Nov 05 20:32:50 assuming, that time command should results in the last three lines with real, user, and sys timers Nov 05 20:33:24 caplink:real 0m0.325s Nov 05 20:33:24 user 0m0.130s Nov 05 20:33:24 sys 0m0.050s Nov 05 20:35:52 whats about time apt-get install vi ? what results in an error... Nov 05 20:36:56 hmm thats not a valid package but it was quick Nov 05 20:37:07 real 0m8.279s Nov 05 20:37:07 user 0m2.960s Nov 05 20:37:07 sys 0m4.290s Nov 05 20:37:21 well, may be a signla, that the database is ok Nov 05 20:37:32 s/signla/signal/ Nov 05 20:37:33 caplink811_log meant: well, may be a signal, that the database is ok Nov 05 20:50:37 hmm its going slow too with mythweb it looks like :S Nov 05 20:50:38 hrm Nov 05 20:51:12 but maybe thats really cpuintensive :) Nov 05 20:52:50 What do you guys think any of you run mythweb on the nslu2 :S Nov 05 21:03:32 how cani make apache go quicker with php :) Nov 05 21:06:06 more ram, faster cpu.. Nov 05 21:06:59 imho, the 1st ist critical Nov 05 21:07:38 lol sure but im using an nslu2 :) Nov 05 21:07:38 use appweb instead Nov 05 21:07:38 Im trying to run mythweb on it.. but its timign out Nov 05 21:07:38 appweb? Nov 05 21:07:38 is that a different web erver Nov 05 21:08:06 yepp Nov 05 21:08:06 hmm Nov 05 21:08:06 can it do phps? Nov 05 21:08:06 and mysql? Nov 05 21:08:06 afair, yes, both Nov 05 21:08:11 ok ill try it Nov 05 21:27:50 EnterUserName: plenty of other choices: cherokee, lighttpd, nginx Nov 05 21:30:01 morning, brian :) Nov 05 21:55:07 morning caplink811_log Nov 06 01:29:10 hi all if i put the swap on a different drive then the one its running on it should run faster right? Nov 06 01:41:42 how much swap we are talking about? Nov 06 02:46:19 cant keep my mittens away from that d-i etch rc1 now can I... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Nov 06 02:59:57 2006