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Nov 10 08:35:38 <capbot> mika_ :)
Nov 10 11:46:37 <bolidz> hello
Nov 10 16:30:54 <anac0nda> hi
Nov 10 16:41:01 <anac0nda> i'm looking for the debianslug image with included raid-drivers (by EvilDevil). the download server is down, so I wanted to ask if somebody has it and could send it to me
Nov 10 16:41:10 * anac0nda is begging :)
Nov 10 16:42:05 <ByronT> which download server?
Nov 10 16:42:19 <EvilDevil> ByronT, none of the official ones
Nov 10 16:42:38 <EvilDevil> ByronT, my university's students server is down for about a week now
Nov 10 16:42:50 <ByronT> heh, the official ones (at least www.nslu2-linux.org seems to be down too)
Nov 10 16:43:07 <EvilDevil> www.slug-firmware.net  too?
Nov 10 16:43:35 <EvilDevil> no, it's up
Nov 10 16:44:10 <ByronT> yeah, it's somewhere else.... ;)
Nov 10 16:44:13 <EvilDevil> anac0nda, did you asked the person on the forum who created the howto @ wiki.nslu2-info.de ?
Nov 10 16:44:48 <anac0nda> no, I could try that ...
Nov 10 16:45:44 <EvilDevil> http://www.nslu2-info.de/showthread.php?t=3718 ; his name on the forum is "webpower"
Nov 10 16:47:35 <anac0nda> thanks
Nov 10 16:49:53 <EvilDevil> np
Nov 10 19:25:53 <BigBadHoss_Work> helloall
Nov 10 19:26:01 <BigBadHoss_Work> need some help
Nov 10 19:26:10 <BigBadHoss_Work> i have flashed a slug with unslug
Nov 10 19:26:13 <BigBadHoss_Work> 6.8
Nov 10 19:26:35 <BigBadHoss_Work> and i can get to the web interface, but when i try to go to admin, it just times out
Nov 10 19:26:49 <BigBadHoss_Work> also the ready/status light keeps flahing
Nov 10 19:28:41 <BigBadHoss_Work> anybody here?
Nov 10 19:29:23 <barnseenio> i am, but i dont use unslung
Nov 10 19:30:00 <drif> I'm too, but never confronted such situation
Nov 10 19:30:17 <drif> are you able to telnet/ssh in?
Nov 10 19:30:19 <|^Angel^|> i'm just lurking ;)
Nov 10 19:30:27 <barnseenio> heh
Nov 10 19:30:47 <barnseenio> is admin interface on same default web port?
Nov 10 19:31:08 <|^Angel^|> yeah i still need to figur out weater to go with a nslu2 or a synology disk station
Nov 10 19:31:11 <ByronT-Away> I'm idling
Nov 10 19:31:54 <barnseenio> is that a nas?
Nov 10 19:31:58 <ByronT-Away> however, when I've had that situation - it was typically when there were errors in the filesystem or on the disk
Nov 10 19:32:22 <ByronT-Away> (as in bad sectors or in one case, just a stinking bad LaCie POS disk)
Nov 10 19:32:29 <|^Angel^|> barnseenio,  eh me ?
Nov 10 19:32:56 <barnseenio> yes ;-)
Nov 10 19:33:11 <|^Angel^|> synology makes nas units yes
Nov 10 19:33:35 <barnseenio> oh its a usb thing like the nslu2? or all built in
Nov 10 19:33:55 <|^Angel^|> i'm looking at the ds-106 units or the nslu2 ( good point about hte linksys is that a coleuge at work has 3 of em and all hacked )
Nov 10 19:34:10 <|^Angel^|> both hdd inside and 3 usb ports
Nov 10 19:34:15 <ByronT-Away> this is the mod that I really want: http://www.netux.com.au/nslu2/
Nov 10 19:34:31 <barnseenio> oh sounds interesting |^Angel^| 
Nov 10 19:35:33 <barnseenio> looks fun ByronT-Away 
Nov 10 19:35:41 <|^Angel^|> yeah but the units dosent seem to have as big a following as the nslu
Nov 10 19:35:46 <barnseenio> although, mine is tucked away behind the TV
Nov 10 19:36:19 <barnseenio> do you just use the unit as storage, or can be hacked to run  an OS?
Nov 10 19:37:21 <|^Angel^|> barnseenio, my use would mainly be filestorage and itunes server
Nov 10 19:38:00 <barnseenio> itunes server is great
Nov 10 19:38:28 <|^Angel^|> are you running that on your nlsu ?
Nov 10 19:38:31 <barnseenio> yes
Nov 10 19:38:42 <|^Angel^|> how is that preforming ?
Nov 10 19:38:43 <barnseenio> im using an xbox with media centre installed .. its amazing
Nov 10 19:38:49 <barnseenio> perform beautifully
Nov 10 19:38:54 <|^Angel^|> nice :)
Nov 10 19:38:59 <barnseenio> i can listen to all my tunes at home and at work
Nov 10 19:39:36 <|^Angel^|> i doubt that my work would let me do that easpecialy if it's from anoter company's software
Nov 10 19:39:49 <barnseenio> ?
Nov 10 19:40:02 <|^Angel^|> i work in software testing
Nov 10 19:40:07 <barnseenio> oh you dont listen to music at work?
Nov 10 19:40:16 <|^Angel^|> i have my ipod at work
Nov 10 19:40:20 <barnseenio> gotcha
Nov 10 19:40:27 <barnseenio> i used to till mine broke :(
Nov 10 19:40:36 <|^Angel^|> bugger
Nov 10 19:40:53 <barnseenio> you dont really need to run any softare on your work pc, other than itunes
Nov 10 19:41:03 <|^Angel^|> yeah
Nov 10 19:41:32 <|^Angel^|> se that is the point it's from the rivaling company ;)
Nov 10 19:41:42 <barnseenio> oh gotcha
Nov 10 19:42:29 <|^Angel^|> so for now i'll just stick with my ipod
Nov 10 19:42:37 <barnseenio> well, for me the debianslug + xbox has been fantastic
Nov 10 19:43:05 <|^Angel^|> ok
Nov 10 19:43:38 <|^Angel^|> is debianslug har to set up ? or is it just more or less the same as regular debrian ?
Nov 10 19:43:52 <barnseenio> it was easy
Nov 10 19:44:01 <|^Angel^|> :)
Nov 10 19:44:08 <barnseenio> tbh the wiki is quite offputting about it being the more advanced
Nov 10 19:44:20 <barnseenio> i just followed the instructions and it worked
Nov 10 19:44:31 <barnseenio> i tried unslung first, but it didnt work with my usbhd
Nov 10 19:44:49 <|^Angel^|> ok
Nov 10 19:45:17 <|^Angel^|> i'll take that into consideration
Nov 10 19:45:18 <barnseenio> worth checking you hd on the list before you buy - i didnt ;( although im glad i went debianslug
Nov 10 19:45:51 <|^Angel^|> as long as it will take 300gig maxtor drives then i'm happy 
Nov 10 19:46:20 <barnseenio> theres a compatibility list on the mailing list yahoo thing
Nov 10 19:46:20 <|^Angel^|> is the list on the wiki or some offside page ?
Nov 10 19:46:22 <drif> atleast with my 250gig maxtor
Nov 10 19:46:34 <|^Angel^|> drif, ok 
Nov 10 19:46:45 <|^Angel^|> maxline ? by eny chance 
Nov 10 19:47:03 <drif> personal storage
Nov 10 19:47:10 <|^Angel^|> ahh ok
Nov 10 22:32:34 <maatttt> hi all.
Nov 10 22:33:26 <maatttt> If I remove a usb-serial device and reconnect to another usb port, do I have to reload usbserial and pl2303 ?
Nov 10 22:37:33 <mwester> maatttt: not usually.  OpenSlug should deal with it well, but it may assign it a different /dev/ttyUSBxxx number.  Unslung - dunno - it's probably ok. Try it...
Nov 10 22:40:09 <maatttt> well, I tried rmmoding the modules and insmodding them again, but it doesn't work.
Nov 10 22:40:44 <maatttt> If I connect the usb-serial to port1 it detects, but if I connect a hub to port one and then connect the usb-serial device I get this messge,
Nov 10 22:41:19 <maatttt> hub.c: new USB device 00:01.2-1.2, assigned address 21
Nov 10 22:41:20 <maatttt> Device descriptor:8 bytes received.
Nov 10 22:41:20 <maatttt> usb.c: unable to get device descriptor (error=-32)
Nov 10 22:42:10 <^serafeim^> i have a small problem with unslung: when i reboot, /etc/resolv.conf seems to be cleared and i need to re-add my nameserver. any info on why this is happening ?
Nov 10 22:42:41 <mwester> It's designed to do that by Linksys :)
Nov 10 22:43:14 <mwester> set the nameservers from the Linksys GUI; it tucks them away in the sysconf flash area, and restores the /etc/resolv.conf each boot from the sysconf area...
Nov 10 22:43:49 <^serafeim^> ok, i'll do it from the GUI. thanks !
Nov 10 22:44:15 <mwester> maatttt: I seem to recall that there was trouble with serial devices on hubs - check the mailing list archives.
Nov 10 22:45:14 <maatttt> are some hubs better than others ?
Nov 10 22:46:12 <mwester> don't know.  Shouldn't be with newer hubs, perhaps some of the real old ones were lacking something?
Nov 10 22:46:54 <maatttt> I just plugged in a 1-wire usb adaptor in port1, owfs works.  plug it in the hub, no worky.
Nov 10 22:47:57 <mwester> Yep.  It takes logic in the OS to make a hub work; not all device drivers support hubs.
Nov 10 22:48:22 <mwester> And its more likely to encounter that on older OSs and drivers such as Unslung.
Nov 10 22:50:06 <mwester> But before you give up, it might just be that you can't swap the device while the OS is running - try rebooting the slug with the device plugged into the hub.
Nov 10 22:51:11 <maatttt> tbh, I'm more familier with Debian, how troublesome is that to get going on an NSLU2 ?
Nov 10 22:52:31 <mwester> What os are you running on the NSLU2?
Nov 10 22:53:09 <maatttt> Unslung
Nov 10 22:53:36 <mwester> If you are familiar with Debian, you might consider OpenSlug or even run the Debian release for the NSLU2.
Nov 10 22:54:26 <maatttt> I opted for unslung beacuse the developers of OWFS have well supported packages.
Nov 10 22:54:47 <maatttt> That said, they work perfectly, except if I want to do more with the device.  ie use a hub.
Nov 10 22:55:29 <maatttt> If I move to debian, then I have to compile the owfs from source.  no biggy, but I bet the debian install is a headache.
Nov 10 22:56:58 <maatttt> the path of the enthusiast is rarely smooth
Nov 10 22:57:12 <mwester> :)
Nov 10 22:57:28 <mwester> Which port did you put the hub in on unslung?
Nov 10 22:59:46 <maatttt> port1
Nov 10 23:00:02 <mwester> And you are running Unslung 6.8 or 5.5?
Nov 10 23:00:08 <maatttt> 6.8
Nov 10 23:00:19 <maatttt> hdd on port 2
Nov 10 23:01:06 <mwester> Ok, well that's the right port for a hub un Unslung 6.8.  As I mentioned, search the archives for the nslu2-general and nslu2-linux groups (on yahoo); this was encountered before and perhaps someone posted a "magic fix"...
Nov 10 23:09:57 <maatttt> thanks for your advice.
Nov 11 01:02:54 <maatttt> hi.
Nov 11 01:03:19 <maatttt> I have unslung 6.8 installed, but would like to try debian.
Nov 11 01:04:41 <maatttt> I have the debain formware, but when I try to use it the web console says it's an invalid file.
Nov 11 01:05:22 <maatttt> do I have to put the slug back the original firmware before trying to use the debian bin?
Nov 11 01:23:33 <mwester> The web upgrade screen is non-functional in Unslung 6.8 and beyond.  There's a bug in that the screen is displayed at all!  You'll have to follow the wiki to put the slug into upgrade mode using the reset button.
Nov 11 01:53:00 <maatttt> yep, I followed the reset button procedure and used a windows utility to upload and verify the debian image.
Nov 11 01:53:27 <maatttt> now it's just sitting there with a red and green led light.
Nov 11 01:59:41 <tkimball> You'll need to follow the directions and confirm, but at this point, wait a few mins and then ssh in as root etc. as the directions say.
Nov 11 01:59:49 <tkimball> It should start the installer.
Nov 11 02:00:13 <tkimball> It's been awhile since I did it, hence my being a bit vague.  Sorry.
Nov 11 02:04:00 <maatttt> I'll flash it again and take note of the time this time.
Nov 11 02:33:02 <maatttt> I'd say it's been sitting like this for 15-20 mins now.  still cant ssh to it.
Nov 11 02:36:50 <tkimball> Yeah, that sounds like a re-flash.  :(
Nov 11 02:38:27 <maatttt> I'm using a windows utility to flash, and that verifys ok.  then the light blink a lot (reboot?) then the static red + green)
Nov 11 02:38:43 <maatttt> I've done it twice now.
Nov 11 02:40:05 <tkimball> Hmm.
Nov 11 02:40:23 <tkimball> OK, hang on, lemme close out of this other app I'm fiddling with and bring up search.
Nov 11 02:43:45 <maatttt> whats interesting is is I point nmap at the addy I expected it to be, the ethernet light flickers.
Nov 11 02:44:21 <maatttt> so it's 'hearing' me port scan it.
Nov 11 02:44:45 <tkimball> Hmm, interesting.  Using flash installer to install debian is marked as depricated.
Nov 11 02:45:09 <maatttt> I'm trying to ssh from another debian box on the same subnet.
Nov 11 02:45:16 <maatttt> also from xp via putty.
Nov 11 02:45:31 <tkimball> The recommended way to do it is here:  http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/
Nov 11 02:46:05 <tkimball> Sorry, this is the link - http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/install.html
Nov 11 02:46:06 <maatttt> that is waht I'm following.
Nov 11 02:46:47 <tkimball> Oh, wait.  *Which* image are you loading?
Nov 11 02:46:52 <tkimball> There are two.
Nov 11 02:47:15 <maatttt> from here http://www.slug-firmware.net/d-dls.php
Nov 11 02:49:42 <tkimball> OK, that's the installer image.  How about network?  Was the slug configured for DHCP in the stock image before starting?
Nov 11 02:49:58 <maatttt> yep. 
Nov 11 02:50:25 <tkimball> OK, this is getting a bit odd then.  
Nov 11 02:50:47 <tkimball> That later image is a recent compile.  Mine worked on an older image.  Lemme see which one.
Nov 11 02:51:21 <maatttt> oh. maybe it wasn;t dhcp.
Nov 11 02:51:46 <maatttt> my firewall doesn't show any reference to it in the logs.
Nov 11 02:51:52 <maatttt> right I think that is it.
Nov 11 02:51:56 <tkimball> If its not set on DHCP, its going to default to its static.
Nov 11 02:52:03 <maatttt> .77 ?
Nov 11 02:52:14 <tkimball> 1.77, yep
Nov 11 02:52:42 <tkimball> I actually got pissed off and changed my router's subnet out of spite during the initial install.  Made life easier.
Nov 11 02:52:57 <tkimball> I've just now changed back.
Nov 11 02:53:18 <maatttt> I have a 2nd nic in this pooter I'll use that.
Nov 11 02:53:35 <tkimball> OK, best of luck.
Nov 11 02:53:53 <maatttt> thanks.  I feel like a twat.  
Nov 11 02:54:10 <tkimball> No need, the thing can be fustrating at first.
Nov 11 02:54:32 <tkimball> Linksys's own docs suck, btw.
Nov 11 02:54:47 <maatttt> yeah, but the debian instructions are clear.
Nov 11 02:55:24 <tkimball> Perhaps, but step 0 there is to make sure you have it working before flashing.
Nov 11 02:55:41 <tkimball> Well, all experiments on one's first slug has that implied.
Nov 11 02:55:45 <maatttt> still isn;t connecting.
Nov 11 02:56:13 <maatttt> can I get the original flash inmage from somewhere, or can I use the unslug image ?
Nov 11 02:56:24 <tkimball> Get the current 'real' flash from Linksys and re-set, get it basically working and try again/
Nov 11 02:56:36 <maatttt> yep. ok.  
Nov 11 02:56:59 <tkimball> That appears to be the best way to go.  I did that, and the later experiments went smooth.
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