**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 03 02:59:58 2007
Jan 03 03:06:30 <Pinback> Anyone successful at formatting a 300GB Onetouch III on an NSLU2?
Jan 03 03:07:51 <Pinback> I keep getting a "format failed" message.
Jan 03 03:23:47 <Pinback> I'm starting over with an NTFS format.
Jan 03 03:24:00 <Pinback> Maybe that'll at least be mountable.
Jan 03 03:39:55 <Pinback> <crickets>
Jan 03 14:09:19 <m1ch> afternoon all
Jan 03 18:37:46 <m1ch> hello all - does anyonne know an easy way to found out how much free space you  have left (and used) on the HD connected to the NSLU2?
Jan 03 19:00:05 <osas> mlch: df -h
Jan 03 19:01:24 <CieD> heh, he left after waiting for less than a minute :/
Jan 03 19:14:47 <osas> I noticed that after my post :p
Jan 03 19:15:26 <osas> oh ... not again ...
Jan 03 19:15:44 * osas talking to himself
Jan 03 20:20:48 <ik_wil_geen_spam> I have problems with mysql on unslung: when I type mysql and enter, it says "mysql: error while loading shared libraries: libmysqlclient.so.14: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". Yhe file is in the /opt/lib/mysql dir. How can I fix this?
Jan 03 20:22:04 <caplink811-log> ik_wil_geen_spam, moment pls, you should create a symlink, but i must look, which one...
Jan 03 20:22:50 <caplink811-log> ik_wil_geen_spam, ln -s /opt/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.14.0.0 /lib/libmysqlclient.so.14 should work
Jan 03 20:25:45 <ik_wil_geen_spam> Yes. Tnx!
Jan 03 20:27:40 <caplink811-log> a hasty customer...
Jan 03 20:29:42 <mwester> :)
Jan 03 21:05:31 <osas> Hi guys
Jan 03 21:05:43 <osas> how heavy is mysql on unslung?
Jan 03 21:05:51 <ik_wil_geen_spam> On the unslung there is locate. A nice tool, but how can I fill the db for it?
Jan 03 21:06:16 <osas> for locate you will need to populate it's own database
Jan 03 21:06:26 <osas> I forgot the command that you need to run ...
Jan 03 21:06:29 <osas> one sec
Jan 03 21:07:33 <osas> updatedb
Jan 03 21:07:50 <osas> this is the one that you need to run to populate the db
Jan 03 21:08:10 <osas> ik_wil_geen_spam: are you running mysql on unslung?
Jan 03 21:09:27 <ik_wil_geen_spam> Yep. And updatedb doesn't work. -u does not work too
Jan 03 21:09:30 <mwester> osas: depends entirely on what you wish to do.  Casual, low-volume work is fine.  Heavy file-intensive work will be poor compared to a larger system with faster I/O, faster CPU, and more memory!
Jan 03 21:09:54 <ik_wil_geen_spam> MySQL is running...
Jan 03 21:10:00 <osas> I would like to try to se asterisk with mysql from flash ...
Jan 03 21:10:04 <osas> no swap ...
Jan 03 21:10:17 <mwester> No swap?  dangerous.
Jan 03 21:10:46 <osas> also, I don't know how many times mysql writes to disk, if there's no activity on the db
Jan 03 21:10:49 <mwester> I think asterisk works ok with no swap, but running much more may run it out of memory.  It only has 32MB.
Jan 03 21:10:58 <osas> I know :-)
Jan 03 21:11:22 <osas> right now, I killed most of the other procceses to free up more space
Jan 03 21:11:35 <mwester> killing samba helps greatly
Jan 03 21:12:13 <osas> on the other hand, for unslung 5.5 and 6.8, if running from flash, the /dev and /var should be mounted into mem by default
Jan 03 21:12:31 <osas> right now, those are not (I manually patched my init scripts)
Jan 03 21:12:32 <mwester> From internal flash, yes.
Jan 03 21:12:46 <osas> even from external flash
Jan 03 21:13:20 * mwester makes note to check; unslung is not supposed to use ramfs when unslung to external device
Jan 03 21:13:21 <mial> mysql uses a lot of memory
Jan 03 21:13:42 <osas> If I use an external flash, /dev and /var are not mounted into ramfs
Jan 03 21:13:53 <mial> running it from flash without swap is like jumping from the empire states building without parachute
Jan 03 21:14:36 <osas> mwester: here's what I did on rc.1:
Jan 03 21:14:51 <osas> 25c25
Jan 03 21:14:51 <osas> < if ( ( [ ! -f /.sda1root ] && [ ! -f /.sda2root ] && [ ! -f /.sdb1root ] && [ ! -f /.sdb2root ] ) || [ -f /.ext3flash ] ) ; then
Jan 03 21:14:51 <osas> ---
Jan 03 21:14:51 <osas> > if ( [ ! -f /.sda1root ] && [ ! -f /.sda2root ] && [ ! -f /.sdb1root ] && [ ! -f /.sdb2root ] ) ; then
Jan 03 21:15:04 <osas> .
Jan 03 21:15:15 <osas> extra check for /.ext3flash
Jan 03 21:16:00 <mwester> Ok.  that makes /var non-peristent (a potentially bad thing, and not supportable), and it means that you have less RAM to run asterisk and mysql!  
Jan 03 21:16:26 <osas> yup, but I have less writes to the flash
Jan 03 21:16:42 <osas> I'm running asterisk in this config for a year now and it is ok
Jan 03 21:16:44 <mwester> flash drives are cheap.  
Jan 03 21:16:46 <mial> isn't /var backed up to flash at shutdown ?
Jan 03 21:17:12 <mial> you can get a tiny usb pen for about 15$
Jan 03 21:17:15 <mwester> shutdown on the linksys firmware is more like a controlled crash - no time to backup anything
Jan 03 21:18:20 <mwester> the concerning part is really /var/log -- if ram-based, no ability to find out why system failed.
Jan 03 21:18:36 <mwester> but if it's been running for a year, then that's probably not a common occurence :)
Jan 03 21:18:41 <osas> yup
Jan 03 21:18:56 <osas> in a controlled/tested env it should be ok
Jan 03 21:19:07 <osas> anyway, this is my setup
Jan 03 21:19:24 <mwester> I'm not sure I'd add mysql to that setup without a great deal of testing!
Jan 03 21:19:34 <mwester> do you have a serial port on the SLUG?
Jan 03 21:19:38 <osas> extra tests on rc.1 and rc.sysinit for /var, /dev and /tmp
Jan 03 21:19:49 <osas> now, but I can add one
Jan 03 21:20:16 <osas> my prefered setup is openslug, but I couldn't get the lates asterisk to run on openslug :(
Jan 03 21:20:23 <mwester> That's where the diagnostics regarding memory shortfall would end up; easiest way to see if that's the problem.
Jan 03 21:21:00 <mwester> I too would prefer openslug -- much easier to free the memory, and less hacking about to do what you wish!
Jan 03 21:21:18 <mwester> Have you filed a bug, or let the package maintainer know of the problem on openslug?
Jan 03 21:21:26 <osas> ik_wil_geen_spam: can you post the memory utilization for mysql?
Jan 03 21:21:43 <osas> I was maintainig the package :-)
Jan 03 21:22:14 <osas> I was able to compile for optware, but not for openembedded
Jan 03 21:22:32 <osas> I need to hack more the config stuff :p
Jan 03 21:22:41 <osas> I don't have time right now
Jan 03 21:23:38 <osas> I opened a bug with asterisk guys about the hacked config stuff ...
Jan 03 21:23:55 <mwester> Check in with eno on #nslu2-linux -- he is working on creating a feed of optware for OpenSlug.  Perhaps if you and he were to spend a few minutes, you might be able to get the optware asterisk working on openslug.
Jan 03 21:24:06 <eno> osas: slugosbe gets the best of both worlds
Jan 03 21:24:08 <osas> I know that
Jan 03 21:24:31 <caplink811> osas, mem consumption of mysql on unslung-5.5 -> http://rafb.net/p/2uYLn753.html
Jan 03 21:24:36 <osas> asterusk1.4 doesn't compile for openslug optware target :(
Jan 03 21:25:03 <eno> bummer
Jan 03 21:25:07 <osas> caplink811: thx
Jan 03 21:25:10 <caplink811> np
Jan 03 21:25:42 <osas> hmmm ... it doesn't look big
Jan 03 21:25:47 <osas> it might work
Jan 03 21:26:05 <osas> I will give it a try ... sometime ... and let you know guys how it works
Jan 03 21:26:29 <osas> yeah ... slogos is the best :-)
Jan 03 21:26:55 <osas> I have mine running for ages (with my dircproxy on it)
Jan 03 21:27:04 <ik_wil_geen_spam> osas: my memory utilization is default. My db doesn't do much.
Jan 03 21:27:42 <osas> k
Jan 03 21:28:13 <osas> slug with flash is the best combination: no fans -> no noise :-)
Jan 03 21:28:57 <eno> osas, looks like it is missing PATH_MAX include/asterisk/paths.h:23
Jan 03 21:29:05 <Naib> osas, the best combination is SLUG and NFS-root
Jan 03 21:29:32 <osas> Naib: you are creating a dependancy :-)
Jan 03 21:29:42 <osas> I want a standalone box
Jan 03 21:30:29 <osas> eno: where should I define the PATH_MAX?
Jan 03 21:31:08 <osas> I has passed some time since I was trying to copile asterisk14 for slugos optware
Jan 03 21:31:20 <osas> and I was trying using the 3.10 toolchain
Jan 03 21:31:25 <eno> for some strange reason, slugosbe <limits.h> does not get PATH_MAX definition included
Jan 03 21:31:39 <osas> ok
Jan 03 21:31:54 <osas> I will give it a try sometime this week
Jan 03 21:32:01 <eno> as a workaround, i now put -DPATH_MAX=4096 in STAGING_CPPFLAGS for slugosbe
Jan 03 21:32:11 <osas> I will let you know how it works
Jan 03 21:32:14 <osas> I see
Jan 03 21:32:35 <osas> eno: are you going to update the makefile?
Jan 03 21:32:54 <eno> since asterisk14 does not use STAGING_CPPFLAGS, just set it in ASTERISK14_CPPFLAGS
Jan 03 21:32:59 <eno> i'm trying that right now
Jan 03 21:33:11 <eno> and looks like it's working
Jan 03 21:33:37 <eno> you'll need to have the openslug toolchain built
Jan 03 21:33:47 <osas> asterisk has some dependencies ... and those are provided via optware packages
Jan 03 21:34:04 <osas> but the same package might be aready installed
Jan 03 21:34:27 <osas> it means that there will be two packages providing the same functionality?
Jan 03 21:34:39 <osas> one in / and the other one in /opt?
Jan 03 21:34:56 <osas> eno: I have the openslug 3.19 toolcahin
Jan 03 21:35:28 <osas> for instance openssl: it will be available via openslug feeds and via openslug optware feeds
Jan 03 21:35:41 <osas> do we need to install both?
Jan 03 21:35:46 <eno> osas, let's switch to #nslu2-linux
Jan 03 21:35:52 <osas> ok
Jan 03 21:38:25 <Naib> any plan on getting the OpenSSH/SSL which is avail for OpenSlug to be compiled against tcp-wrapper?
Jan 03 21:38:38 <Naib> and also having tcp-wrapper avail in the feeds?
Jan 03 21:55:44 <eno> Naib: i can only speak for optware, tcpwrappers just got in optware/slugosbe feed
Jan 03 21:56:20 <Naib> ahh nice, got my own patched bb and compiled here, since need tcpd to block script-kids
Jan 03 23:42:25 <chacko> Hi, anybody here?  What the various nslu2 channels available?  I had to reinstall by irc client :(
Jan 04 00:01:05 <eno> chacko: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Main/IRC
Jan 04 00:03:00 <chacko> eno:  I see only -LINUX and -general there.  I had seen and used another one previously...
Jan 04 00:26:12 <eno> chacko: maybe #openslug ?
Jan 04 00:27:43 <chacko> eno: thanks, that was it :)
Jan 04 00:28:18 <eno> can you add it to the wiki page?
Jan 04 00:28:36 <chacko> I shall 
Jan 04 00:37:55 <chacko> eno:  I cannot do this, it asks for a password.  I had changed other wiki pages before.
Jan 04 00:38:27 <chacko> eno: there is configuration correction needed in the ipkg-opt.ipk
Jan 04 00:54:05 <eno> chacko: sorry, i was away (busy at work)
Jan 04 00:54:20 <eno> please tell me the ipkg-opt.ipk change
Jan 04 00:54:44 <chacko> eno: let me look it up
Jan 04 00:57:13 <chacko> FIX: edit the opt/etc/ipkg.conf  (this got installed as part of the ipkg expansion and has …/stable feed instead of …/unstable.
Jan 04 00:57:58 <eno> i think we should use stable feed
Jan 04 00:58:50 <eno> when we officially announced the slugosbe
Jan 04 00:58:55 <eno> there will be a stable feed
Jan 04 00:59:08 <eno> like in the case of nslu2
Jan 04 00:59:20 <eno> (i mean optware/nslu2)
Jan 04 00:59:46 <chacko> ok... Many of the other manual configs you describe on the webpage you gave me, can be actually put into the ipg-opt.ipk
Jan 04 01:00:10 <eno> for nslu2, currently stable == unstable
Jan 04 01:00:37 <eno> but there were discussion in #nslu2-linux about making these two feeds different
Jan 04 01:02:21 <chacko> Yes, that is what I like too... So if ipkg-opt.ipk just gets from your feed (after manual get of opt-pkg.ipk), then they will remain separate
Jan 04 01:02:24 <eno> if it's not too much trouble, how about you start a new wiki page: OptwareSlugosbeManualBootstrap
Jan 04 01:02:54 <chacko> btw, the sync rebuild you did, did fix that time update error msg, VERY GOOD!
Jan 04 01:03:05 <eno> excellent
Jan 04 01:03:29 <eno> that wiki page can start from my blog entry
Jan 04 01:03:40 <eno> make changes as needed
Jan 04 01:04:23 <chacko> Yes, I can try that, but I prefer to use the nslu2 wiki pages
Jan 04 01:04:44 <eno> yes, start the new wiki page on nslu2-linux.org
Jan 04 01:05:22 <chacko> hope I can get in, as I said, it asked for a password from me when I tried to update that one page...
Jan 04 01:05:37 <chacko> I do not remember ever using even a user name before
Jan 04 01:06:10 <eno> new wiki page should be ok, try it
Jan 04 01:07:32 <chacko> The way Rod said to go was, just get the ipgk-opt.ipk manaully (to put in a barrier to prevent errors), and then ipkg install of that .ipk should everything needed.. Which means your .ipk needs to be updated
Jan 04 01:08:11 <chacko> Eno, are you back at home?
Jan 04 01:08:14 <eno> i can ask Rod to link stable to unstable for the time being
Jan 04 01:08:19 <eno> i'm still at work
Jan 04 01:08:52 <eno> then it should work out-of-box
Jan 04 01:08:56 <chacko> do you know anything about linux debugfs or sleuthkit ?
Jan 04 01:09:19 <eno> sorry i don't
Jan 04 01:09:47 <chacko> Thanks, ok, got ot go ...  Will talk later ...
Jan 04 01:10:06 <eno> later
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