**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 04 03:00:02 2007 Jan 04 11:36:16 Ok, maybe someone here can help me figure out exactly how to get debian on a slug. Jan 04 11:38:30 the relevant info on www.cyrius.com has it that I must use an 'unofficial image' because of the proprietary microcode for the ethernet drivers. Jan 04 11:45:54 the slug-firmware.net makes it seem like the firmware image I want is Debian/NSLU2, but it specifically says that the official Debian kernel support for nslu2 is not yet complete. Jan 04 11:48:37 but back at the cyrius.com site, it makes it clear that you're using the debian-installer, which slug-firmware.net says does not have complete support for the nslu2. Jan 04 11:48:40 What gives? Jan 04 11:51:38 [2006-11-02] The new debian-installer rc1 is now available and support for the NSLU2 is working again! If you wish to install Debian on a new system, please follow the installation instructions. Jan 04 11:51:54 http://www.slug-firmware.net/d-dls.php Jan 04 11:56:03 Egg-on-face. Thanks, eiffel_ . Jan 04 12:59:25 hello all - when i do \\nas in windows and access my file shares on the nslu2 - and right click or move a folder or anything it seems to take a while- is this normal? - is the nslu2 just quite slow for this? Jan 04 13:00:23 samba is slow Jan 04 13:00:48 ok - just something to put up with then really? Jan 04 17:52:30 could anyone explain what will happen if i install X11? Jan 04 17:52:39 I don't quite understand what it is meant to do? Jan 04 19:50:09 m1ch: on slug? Jan 04 19:50:22 ah, he left Jan 04 20:37:48 Hello Jan 04 20:37:49 I'm trying to install optware packages in my nslu and I get this: Jan 04 20:37:52 Tickey, so what have you done yrt Jan 04 20:38:08 caplink811-log Jan 04 20:38:30 I tryed to unsling disk 2 Jan 04 20:39:10 and the command ended successful? Jan 04 20:39:35 Error: /share/flash/data (disk2, /dev/sda1) is not a mounted disk Jan 04 20:39:56 you have telnet access? Jan 04 20:40:00 yes Jan 04 20:40:19 k, and unix/linux expiriences? Jan 04 20:42:27 Tickey, still around? Jan 04 20:43:49 yes Jan 04 20:44:13 expirience some Jan 04 20:44:28 enter fdisk -l /dev/sda Jan 04 20:45:01 and post the output, pls Jan 04 20:45:35 I just enter and there is no message back Jan 04 20:45:40 assuming, that the disk is plugged on the nslu, and powered om Jan 04 20:45:45 s/om/on Jan 04 20:46:04 try fdisk -l /dev/sdb pls Jan 04 20:46:44 ok Jan 04 20:46:48 I got this: Jan 04 20:46:58 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System Jan 04 20:47:22 ./dev/sda1 1 510 255735+ 83 Linux Jan 04 20:47:34 ./dev/sda2 511 765 127882+ 83 Linux Jan 04 20:47:41 ./dev/sda3 766 1020 127882+ 82 Linux swap Jan 04 20:48:13 the disk is plugged on the usb port 2? Jan 04 20:48:26 yes. is a flash drive Jan 04 20:48:51 k, then you should try /sbin/unsling disk1 instead Jan 04 20:49:22 I don't have a drive in disk1 Jan 04 20:49:35 or, before doing so, you can use mount to verify, that the partitons are mounted Jan 04 20:49:57 ok Jan 04 20:50:14 mount looks ok Jan 04 20:50:49 just a moment,pls Jan 04 20:51:41 you tried fdisk -l /dev/sda, and get no response, then fdisk -l /dev/sdb, assuming, that you got an answer, but the result that you posted mentioned on /dev/sda ?!? Jan 04 20:52:06 hello! Jan 04 20:52:25 morning, chacko Jan 04 20:53:27 fdisk -l /dev/sda I get response, fdisk -l /dev/sdb no response Jan 04 20:54:12 ah ok, misunderstood that, but /sbin/unsling disk1 is the correct command, according to http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/R63DiskBehaviour Jan 04 20:55:23 caplink811-log: does ldd on slugos/be work? Jan 04 20:55:50 caplink811-log there shoul be /sbin/unsling disk2 because I have my flash drive connected to disk2 ? Jan 04 20:56:31 Tickey, you have connected the drive to usb port 2 wich is /dev/sda aka disk1 Jan 04 20:57:02 chacko, dunno, myself uses opendebianslug Jan 04 20:57:38 ok caplink811-log Jan 04 20:57:50 Thank you very much caplink811-log Jan 04 20:58:18 caplink811-log: can you show me an ldd usage on your box and the output -- very simple Jan 04 20:59:52 chacko, http://rafb.net/p/bBK9NN19.html Jan 04 21:00:19 Tickey, np :) Jan 04 21:06:33 caplink811-log: I have the 2.3.90 version, it returns nothing on slugos/be :( Jan 04 21:07:19 caplink811-log: how did you do that paste and post? pse teach me! Jan 04 21:07:30 this version runs on Jan 04 21:07:33 pigpen:/lib# uname -a Jan 04 21:07:33 Linux pigpen 2.6.12.2 #1 Tue Sep 27 20:21:18 CDT 2005 armv5teb GNU/Linux Jan 04 21:08:56 easiest was is use putty (when you are in a windows environment), mark with the left mouse button, and put the clipboard content in a pastebin site with strg-v Jan 04 21:09:03 s/was/way Jan 04 21:09:24 he's hurry, this evening ;) Jan 04 21:13:34 caplink811-log: cool. had never used a paste site Jan 04 21:14:34 it is a good thing, special when you use irc, most channels will kick you off, when you paste more then 10 lines, in < 10 secs, e.g. Jan 04 21:14:52 s/special/specialy Jan 04 21:16:25 do they remove the pasted stuff automatically? Jan 04 21:19:07 depends on the site, some may do this by time (1 day/1 week), some not, so, post no secrets, and no passwords ;) Jan 04 21:23:39 caplink811-log: in irc do you keep people's nicks someplace like a clipboard so you dont have to type that in every time? Jan 04 21:24:33 marceln: does ldd on slugos/be or unslung work? Jan 04 21:24:39 depends on your client, it should have an option like nick completition, so you type ch, and the client writes chacko, Jan 04 21:24:57 I work mainly on unslung. Jan 04 21:25:10 On unslung it works. Jan 04 21:25:32 I use it often to check the dependencies. Jan 04 21:25:33 marceln, then on unslung? Jan 04 21:26:16 I just booting my openslug slug to check. Jan 04 21:28:19 marceln, dont see an ldd or ipkg on my unslung... on my slugos/be ldd (ipkg installed) just returns Jan 04 21:28:40 hi Jan 04 21:29:09 i have a question Jan 04 21:29:26 caplink811-log, cool, re-learning irc after 17 years :) Jan 04 21:29:33 ~nick Jan 04 21:29:34 People leaving their nickname as NSLU2-IRC will be ignored ... otherwise we'll end up with 10 nslu2-irc users ... so please change it using /nick newnick Jan 04 21:29:59 k Jan 04 21:30:05 hi Jan 04 21:30:11 lallala *happy* Jan 04 21:30:12 so Jan 04 21:30:32 my NSLU2 cant find the HDD Jan 04 21:30:34 chacko: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4589 Jun 17 2006 /opt/bin/ldd Jan 04 21:30:54 and if i press format, then he works a lil bit and says NOT FORMATTED Jan 04 21:31:13 so i put it into my pc and format as: FAT 32,NTFS,ext3 Jan 04 21:31:14 sto, which kind of device? Jan 04 21:31:32 my extern HDD Jan 04 21:31:47 self powered, or via usb? Jan 04 21:31:54 slef Jan 04 21:31:56 self Jan 04 21:32:27 sto, you'll follow me -> #nslu2-german ? Jan 04 21:33:00 yo german? Jan 04 21:33:05 marceln, none there, nowhere. not in ipkg list either. probably part of another pkg? Jan 04 21:33:07 yep Jan 04 21:33:29 # ipkg files ldconfig Jan 04 21:33:29 mmm Jan 04 21:33:29 Package ldconfig (2.2.5-1) is installed on root and has the following files: Jan 04 21:33:29 /opt/etc/ld.so.conf Jan 04 21:33:29 /opt/sbin/ldconfig Jan 04 21:33:29 /opt/etc/init.d/S03ldconfig Jan 04 21:33:34 /opt/bin/ldd Jan 04 21:33:34 /opt/sbin/ldconfig.bin Jan 04 21:33:34 /opt/bin/sprof Jan 04 21:33:45 oh, sorry, tirol, could be italian, too Jan 04 21:33:49 k Jan 04 21:34:04 wart mal i cheggs grad net Jan 04 21:34:15 wie wechselt ma da in anderen channel Jan 04 21:34:28 /part #nslu2-german Jan 04 21:34:35 should work Jan 04 21:34:59 nope Jan 04 21:35:04 join #nslu2-german Jan 04 21:35:10 so, we try it in english ;) Jan 04 21:35:36 I don't mind! Jan 04 21:35:37 k Jan 04 21:35:59 gugg mal im german channel Jan 04 21:36:04 chacko: Did you check the package "ldconfig" Jan 04 21:36:19 marceln, checking ... Jan 04 21:38:34 For openslug i have found "ldd - 2.3.5+cvs20050627-r6 - glibc: print shared library dependencies" Jan 04 21:39:52 ldd --version Jan 04 21:39:52 ldd (GNU libc) 2.3.90 Jan 04 21:40:11 that is the one returning nothing... Jan 04 21:40:45 Will go install the ldconfig on unslung and test... Jan 04 21:41:18 marceln, 'ipkg whatprovides ldd' is that how you find where ldd might be? Jan 04 21:45:12 The openslug version doesn't seem to work. Jan 04 21:49:35 ldd /opt/lib/libnsl.so Jan 04 21:49:35 ldd: $warning: you do not have execution permission for `/opt/lib/libnsl.so' Jan 04 21:49:35 eval: /opt/lib/libnsl.so: Permission denied Jan 04 21:50:48 marceln, my first part of the msg did not appear? I said ldd works ok on unslung, except the minor problem... Jan 04 21:51:20 hi back Jan 04 21:51:39 Hi sto. Jan 04 21:51:48 so should i format my extern HDD as primary or logical ? Jan 04 21:52:16 any progress? ahja, primary Jan 04 21:52:21 chacko: I didn't use it on libraries. Jan 04 21:52:51 On libraries you have that error. Jan 04 21:53:01 its now formatting Jan 04 21:53:35 i have a quest Jan 04 21:53:39 ion :P Jan 04 21:53:46 -bash-3.2$ ls -l /opt/lib/libmenu.so.5.5 Jan 04 21:53:46 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 22916 Jun 17 2006 /opt/lib/libmenu.so.5.5 Jan 04 21:53:46 -bash-3.2$ ldd /opt/lib/libmenu.so.5.5 Jan 04 21:53:46 ldd: $warning: you do not have execution permission for `/opt/lib/libmenu.so.5.5' Jan 04 21:53:46 libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40011000) Jan 04 21:53:47 libncurses.so.5 => /opt/lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x40122000) Jan 04 21:53:49 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x2aaaa000) Jan 04 21:54:09 can i formatt at the NAS and then have the partions, ext,ext and swap Jan 04 21:54:45 You are using a "nslu2" with unlung? Jan 04 21:54:50 then i resize my main ext so that i can make a NTFS partion for copying the stuff of my friends pc Jan 04 21:55:19 yea im usin nslu2 @ unslug6 Jan 04 21:55:27 marceln, ok ... now I will go install the slugos/be pkg of (unslung's ldconfig) on slugos/be and try out... Jan 04 21:55:40 sto, yes, that should work, if you don't touch the partiton sequence Jan 04 21:55:49 alright Jan 04 21:55:55 ok formattin done Jan 04 21:55:58 cya lata Jan 04 21:56:09 The problem is that the ntfs filesystem on the slug isn't stable Jan 04 21:56:23 Why do you want to have a ntfs partition? Jan 04 21:58:48 marceln, he's in a hurry ;) Jan 04 21:59:02 I see 0-; Jan 04 21:59:24 I have done some tests with ntfs and never failed to get the slug haning. Jan 04 22:00:10 Just a simple "dd if=/dev/zero of= bs=8k" and it hangs after some time. Jan 04 22:00:48 Do you know something about "libtool"? Jan 04 22:01:46 marceln, no joy-- ldconfig has not yet been built in the slugosbe (unstable) feed :( Jan 04 22:05:30 eno, r u there? Did you run into problems building ldconfig -- slugosbe? Jan 04 22:09:19 marceln, where / towhom should I report the ldd problem on SlugOS/BE? Who is main builder there? Jan 04 22:11:30 hi Jan 04 22:11:56 back Jan 04 22:12:01 but still not workin Jan 04 22:12:30 i formatted at windows to fat32 Jan 04 22:13:05 then put it on nslu and pressed format...then it worked for a while and said NOT FORMATTED Jan 04 22:14:34 chacko: ldconfig.mk copies files from toolchain-build-dir/glibc.../ Jan 04 22:15:08 since optware/slugosbe borrows toolchain, it won't work without some additional work Jan 04 22:16:09 sto: Maybe "http://pion.xs4all.nl/~marceln/slug/format-disk.html" migth help Jan 04 22:16:15 and if i can get it to work, i think it will be very similar to the openslug ldd package Jan 04 22:16:25 eno, too bad :( there is a ldd pkg for slugos/be, but that does not work... but the unSlung pkg does work on unSlung, so I was hoping ... Jan 04 22:16:56 sto: It's a flash on how i formated the disk. Jan 04 22:16:57 in the short term, another workaround is objdump Jan 04 22:17:06 But i used linux to do the job. Jan 04 22:17:28 yea got it ;) Jan 04 22:17:44 does it matter if i format a HDD at slot 2 ? Jan 04 22:17:55 No Jan 04 22:19:22 eno, I do not see objdump in your optware/slugosbe feed ?? Jan 04 22:19:58 marceln, very cool animation :) Jan 04 22:20:17 chacko: use openslug objdump Jan 04 22:21:57 binutils & binutils-symlinks Jan 04 22:22:12 /usr/bin/objdump -p files... Jan 04 22:22:49 caplink811: I made a complete set how i installed the slug in the hope to help starters. Jan 04 22:23:27 eno: ldd uses "/lib/ld-linux.so.2" to show the libraries. Jan 04 22:23:36 * caplink811-log thinks, there should be a pointer to that on the wiki Jan 04 22:24:00 On openslug: Jan 04 22:24:00 root@loper:/bin# /lib/ld-linux.so.2 --list /usr/bin/vim Jan 04 22:24:00 libncurses.so.5 => /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x40002000) Jan 04 22:24:00 libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40043000) Jan 04 22:24:00 libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x4004e000) Jan 04 22:24:00 libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4005f000) Jan 04 22:24:02 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x2a000000) Jan 04 22:24:42 eno, have not installed binutils yet :( trying to keep the footrpint down for my flash target. Any idea how big binutils might be? Jan 04 22:24:43 On unslung 6.8: Jan 04 22:24:43 -bash-3.2$ /lib/ld-linux.so.2 --list /opt/bin/vim Jan 04 22:24:43 libncurses.so.5 => /opt/lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x40001000) Jan 04 22:24:43 libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4004a000) Jan 04 22:24:43 libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40054000) Jan 04 22:24:44 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x2aaaa000) Jan 04 22:28:47 The reason that ldd doesn't work on openslug is busybox!!! Jan 04 22:28:56 root@loper:/bin# bash /usr/bin/ldd /usr/bin/vim Jan 04 22:28:56 libncurses.so.5 => /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x40021000) Jan 04 22:28:56 libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40062000) Jan 04 22:28:56 libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x4006d000) Jan 04 22:28:56 libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4007e000) Jan 04 22:28:57 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000) Jan 04 22:29:40 a-ha Jan 04 22:30:44 in other words, there's no need to have ldconfig in the slugosbe feed Jan 04 22:31:02 There is a pipefail test on openslug which doesn't work with busybox sh! Jan 04 22:31:39 marceln, missing your point... I am using bash as my deafult shell ... Jan 04 22:32:41 The "ldd" script still contains "#!/bin/sh"! Jan 04 22:33:04 If you change that to "#!/bin/bash" it will work! Jan 04 22:33:24 crap cant connect to nslu over telnet Jan 04 22:33:29 I just copied the "ldd" script from unslung to openslug and it works. Jan 04 22:33:37 # bash ldd /opt/bin/php Jan 04 22:33:37 libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40021000) Jan 04 22:33:37 libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x4002c000) Jan 04 22:33:37 libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0x40086000) Jan 04 22:33:37 libpcre.so.0 => /opt/lib/libpcre.so.0 (0x400bb000) Jan 04 22:34:05 sto: You an enable it in the web interface Jan 04 22:34:45 marceln: thx for getting to the bottom of openslug ldd Jan 04 22:35:54 yea for some strange reason it was disabled again Jan 04 22:35:56 ahh yea Jan 04 22:36:03 i restarted nslu Jan 04 22:37:13 sto, 1st thing after a successful unsling should be, ipkg install openssh, or ipkg install dropbear, which avoid the "enable telnet" procedure Jan 04 22:38:35 Does someone know how to solve problems with libtool using the host libraries? Jan 04 22:39:09 eno, marceln, my original goal was trying to find why anytopnm does not work here, so I tried Jan 04 22:39:12 bash ldd /usr/bin/anytopnm Jan 04 22:39:12 ldd: /lib/ld-linux.so.2 exited with unknown exit code (139) Jan 04 22:39:32 what to do next? Jan 04 22:39:41 is there a command to format hdd over telnet? Jan 04 22:40:10 chacko: Install file and check if it's really a elf binary Jan 04 22:40:22 sto: Yes and no Jan 04 22:40:41 aha first the yes plz Jan 04 22:40:42 The webinterface does more than format the hdd Jan 04 22:41:14 but my webinterface doesn Jan 04 22:41:16 t Jan 04 22:41:34 marceln: i hate libtool Jan 04 22:41:46 sto, for a headless machine like nslu2, there isn't another way Jan 04 22:41:59 sto, than telnet/webinterface i mean Jan 04 22:42:02 have you used PATCH_LIBTOOL Jan 04 22:42:03 ? Jan 04 22:42:13 1) It partitions the disk Jan 04 22:42:13 2) It creates the filesystems Jan 04 22:42:13 3) It creates the swap Jan 04 22:42:13 4) It fills the files with the required fils Jan 04 22:42:29 sto, just make sure it doesn't boot from the disk you want to format Jan 04 22:43:09 eno: Hating libtool doesn't solve my problem Jan 04 22:43:57 right, i was wondering if PATCH_LIBTOOL helps in any way? Jan 04 22:44:32 It's not my choice to use it. Jan 04 22:44:50 I get the source and want to compile it for unslung. Jan 04 22:45:04 marceln, I have to be away (disk changes, etc.) Missing file may be the root casue of my original problem :) Jan 04 22:45:38 make/template.mk uses PATCH_LIBTOOL sed script before .configured Jan 04 22:46:38 sto: Do you see the message "Disk not formated"? Jan 04 22:46:57 eno: Yes Jan 04 22:48:33 yea Jan 04 22:48:40 but just NOT FORMATTED Jan 04 22:49:16 again :( Jan 04 22:49:19 After that you should be able to select "format disk" Jan 04 22:49:33 i did! like 10 times Jan 04 22:49:48 ok ill put original firmware on it again Jan 04 22:50:07 then try to format Jan 04 22:50:17 and then put unslung again Jan 04 22:52:56 marcel, eno, is there a way to find the time order in which ipkgs are installed? Jan 04 22:53:46 cd /usr/lib/ipkg/info Jan 04 22:53:50 ls -latr Jan 04 22:55:17 But it probably depends on the correct time settings when you installed the package. Jan 04 22:55:30 marceln, cool! always wanted this, so I could repeat my work on another disk when needed :) Jan 04 22:56:39 marceln, on this SlugOS/BE, the time is kept accurate! Jan 04 22:58:24 It still depends on setting it on the correct time once and a while. Jan 04 22:59:42 I just checked it and the time on my unslung system is a lot better the the openslug system (which has an error of two days). Jan 04 23:01:30 on unslung, I started with 5.x, and had to install nntp, but on slugos/be I do not think I did anything special, cant remember, but it is withing seconds... Jan 04 23:01:50 within Jan 04 23:02:12 will be away Jan 04 23:02:32 For me it's also time to leave. Jan 04 23:02:36 Bye Jan 04 23:02:54 marceln, that you very much for all the help! bye Jan 04 23:03:49 hi Jan 04 23:04:41 wanted to put on old firmware and now it says: Jan 04 23:05:03 ERROR: bad fine name Jan 04 23:05:07 or format Jan 04 23:12:53 sto: see http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/KnownProblems Jan 04 23:14:04 mwester, that problem with fsck (large drives) and unslung is not just unslung Jan 04 23:14:42 it exists in the straight linksys firmware and as well with smaller drives (80GB failure with "Out of memory" error) Jan 04 23:16:17 for the logs, sto should read http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/UseTheResetButtonToEnterUpgradeMode Jan 05 00:05:56 mwester, u there? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jan 05 02:59:59 2007