**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 18 02:59:57 2007 Jan 18 03:40:45 anyone around? Jan 18 06:05:23 i can't compile esound, i get an autoreconf error that i don't understand Jan 18 06:18:39 scant: which firmware? cross or native? Jan 18 06:20:34 unslug Jan 18 06:20:54 compiling natively on unslug Jan 18 06:22:13 using optware/make/esound.mk or compile your own? Jan 18 06:22:32 optware Jan 18 06:23:13 error message? Jan 18 06:23:20 i compile by installing the unslung-devel package Jan 18 06:24:10 it's a long error message... Jan 18 06:24:33 this is the first part: Jan 18 06:24:44 mv /home/slug/optware/builds/esound-0.2.36 /home/slug/optware/builds/esound Jan 18 06:24:44 ACLOCAL="aclocal-1.9 -I /home/slug/optware/staging/opt/share/aclocal" AUTOMAKE=automake-1.9 \ Jan 18 06:24:44 autoreconf -vif /home/slug/optware/builds/esound Jan 18 06:24:44 Can't exec "aclocal-1.9": No such file or directory at /opt/bin/autoreconf line 182. Jan 18 06:26:43 apparently unslung-devel only provides aclocal-1.10 right now Jan 18 06:26:51 i can also say it used to compile fine with the same version of unslug, but i think some of the tools in the development env. changed versions Jan 18 06:27:12 how can i install aclocal-1.9 in the devel env? Jan 18 06:27:50 optware usually does not track multiple versions Jan 18 06:28:15 can i change it so it uses aclocal-1.10 instead of 1.9? Jan 18 06:29:18 you can try, actually autoreconf is often not needed when compiling natively Jan 18 06:29:44 can you suggest the easiest way to try to fix this? Jan 18 06:30:37 try change 1.9 to 1.10 and see if it works, and try comment out the line starts with ACLOCAL in esound.mk Jan 18 06:31:16 i do most development with cross devel env Jan 18 06:31:43 is there a howto to do cross devel? Jan 18 06:31:55 occasionally run native build (with help of distcc) to make sure packages are configured correctly Jan 18 06:32:03 yes, 1 sec Jan 18 06:32:53 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/AddAPackageToOptware Jan 18 06:33:00 how do i make it use 1.9 instead of 1.10? Jan 18 06:34:19 ACLOCAL="aclocal-1.10 -I /home/slug/optware/staging/opt/share/aclocal" AUTOMAKE=automake-1.10 Jan 18 06:35:33 do i enter that at the cmd prompt? or put it in a file? Jan 18 06:36:12 replace line 222 of optware/make/esound.mk Jan 18 06:37:12 or comment out line 222 and 223 altogether Jan 18 06:38:33 is there any problem of esound.ipk in the feed? Jan 18 06:39:28 gotta go, good luck Jan 18 06:39:37 when will you be back? Jan 18 11:55:06 hi there Jan 18 12:17:44 hi ho Jan 18 15:25:45 hi there Jan 18 15:35:46 yes? Jan 18 15:42:50 mwester_: hi Jan 18 15:58:46 i've installed apache and php onto my slug which is just great fun. but is there something i should do to try to lighten it up a little. i know apache's fatter than some other servers, but i go with what i know. Jan 18 16:09:53 warlord0: you might want to look into cherokee... Jan 18 16:10:23 i was tempted. it's just i feel more at home on apache - is the config very similar? Jan 18 16:41:24 ok cherokee is installed and runs - i just stopped apache not uninstalled it. but any php page i call just comes back with "200 OK" and not even phinfo workds Jan 18 17:30:55 warlord0: does this help at all? http://www.cherokee-project.com/doc/PHP_execution.html Jan 18 17:32:30 did you install php-cgi? Jan 18 17:36:23 i cant find php-cgi so i've installed php-fcgi and i got it running Jan 18 17:36:30 cool Jan 18 17:36:49 seems much ligher. memory usage in top is way lower than apache Jan 18 17:36:55 so a little wiki update how you did it might be appropriate? Jan 18 17:37:08 i gues so Jan 18 17:37:41 yes, that is why you wanted cherokee. It has some cool features also. I have a cherokee webserver that always returns an empty picture, whatever you ask... Jan 18 17:37:57 ? Jan 18 17:37:59 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/CatchRequestsToAdServers Jan 18 17:38:04 why an empty picture Jan 18 17:38:26 because I don't want annoying moving gifs from ad servers on the web Jan 18 17:38:40 ahh isee - spam filter Jan 18 17:38:57 kinda like that yes. saves internet bandwith too Jan 18 17:39:20 so yours is proxying for you Jan 18 17:40:01 well, my dns server is actually telling the browser lies, and point those urls to my webserver Jan 18 17:40:13 heh good plan Jan 18 17:40:22 didn't think of a simple dns usage like that Jan 18 17:41:19 I sumbled upon this page one day: http://pgl.yoyo.org/adservers that gave the idea Jan 18 17:41:52 i used to use a hosts file update to achieve the same - eventually i resigned to it... Jan 18 17:42:47 I know, used to do that too, but this way it is done automatically, and for the whole network, and I don't get 'page not found' errors in my browser Jan 18 17:42:51 kinda like that Jan 18 17:43:17 nice way to stop the kids messing in places where they shouldn't be too Jan 18 17:44:04 that would work too, if there is a list of servers somewhere. must be Jan 18 17:44:41 i used to get a listing from a free parental control site that has long since disappeared Jan 18 17:44:56 gotta go Jan 18 17:45:04 cu Jan 18 18:00:48 <`shr00m> hello Jan 18 18:04:10 <`shr00m> anyone know if it's possible to turn a slug into a wireless access point ? Jan 18 18:11:48 Yes Jan 18 18:12:10 <`shr00m> via hostap? Jan 18 18:12:35 <`shr00m> i can't find it in the feeds so i assumed it doesn't work Jan 18 18:14:25 * joshin runs Gentoo on his slug so does not generally pay attention to the feeds Jan 18 18:15:15 <`shr00m> is gentoo big endian or little ? Jan 18 18:15:56 It is whatever I wish it to be. Jan 18 18:16:21 (Gentoo is a source based distribution.) Jan 18 18:17:36 <`shr00m> hmm... i'll give it a shot Jan 18 18:17:51 <`shr00m> what model wireless adapter r u using? Jan 18 18:19:09 I'm not currently using either of my slugs that way. One is a failover server for my personal webserver and the other is a secondary firewall and irssi server so that I may talk to the many fine people (and many more weirdos) on IRC. Jan 18 18:19:42 I used an old CF card in a USB card reader. Jan 18 19:12:58 hi eno Jan 18 19:13:41 i have a .bb patch but i'm unsure on how to use it in an unslung devel env Jan 18 19:16:04 .bb is for openslug (openembedded) Jan 18 19:20:18 i can't use a bb patch file in an unslug devel env? Jan 18 19:48:27 does anyone know is there a way to manually integrate a bb file into a mk file? Jan 18 20:01:34 scant: the build infrastructure is different Jan 18 20:02:02 just take a look at some examples and you will figure out Jan 18 20:40:52 if i can't use a bb file in an unslug dev env, can anyone help me integrate the .patch file, i'm unsure how to do it Jan 18 20:44:58 what do you want to do? Jan 18 20:49:12 i'm trying to build mpd 0.11 with the tremor patch in an unslung dev env... there is a tremor patch in the form of a bb file, the bb file references a .patch file. i think you said bb won't work in unslug dev env, so i'm trying to figure out a way to do it Jan 18 20:59:28 the patch file will go in sources/mpd in unslung Jan 18 20:59:36 and the make file must updated Jan 18 20:59:49 ask for help in nslu2-linux Jan 18 21:05:47 scant: see http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/AddAPackageToOptware?from=Unslung.AddAPackageToUnslung Jan 18 21:08:35 osas: thanks for the advice Jan 18 21:08:57 mpd .12 has the tremor patch built in, so i changed the mk file to point to the new sources hoping it would still compile, it does Jan 18 21:09:07 although it's still naming the ipkg with the old version number Jan 18 21:10:11 you need to increase the MPD_IPK_VERSION Jan 18 21:10:31 what about the control file? Jan 18 21:10:40 oh ... not that Jan 18 21:10:44 I missread Jan 18 21:10:56 you point it to the new source, right? Jan 18 21:11:13 then you only need to change the MPD_VERSION Jan 18 21:11:25 i changed these two lines Jan 18 21:11:30 in the mpd.mk file Jan 18 21:11:37 MPD_SITE=http://www.musicpd.org/uploads/files Jan 18 21:11:38 MPD_VERSION=0.12.1 Jan 18 21:11:48 but the ipkg file still says 0.11 Jan 18 21:11:57 but it's .12 that's being built Jan 18 21:12:52 you need to run make mpd-ipk if you want to build the package Jan 18 21:13:33 i'm doing that Jan 18 21:13:40 this is the issue i'm having now: Jan 18 21:13:40 Packaged contents of /home/slug/optware/builds/mpd-0.12.1-ipk into /home/slug/optware/builds/mpd_0.11.5-1_armeb.ipk Jan 18 21:13:56 why is it naming it the wrong version? Jan 18 21:13:58 hi all, I'm a little new to this, but I have built Fedora servers in teh past... I'm using openslug and havn't 'slung' it to one of the USB drives... Am I able to install apache and php wiithout the use of a USB drive? Jan 18 21:14:34 no Jan 18 21:14:52 you don't have enough space on the internal flash Jan 18 21:15:42 ok, I'll have to read up! Jan 18 21:16:05 I tried ipgk install apache - but it couldn't find the package - what have I missed? Jan 18 21:16:05 scant: don't know what to say Jan 18 21:16:21 10(skeffling_10): try using cherokee instead of apache - i'm doing it today and the memory utilisation is much lower Jan 18 21:16:25 apache is not available for openslug Jan 18 21:16:32 you'll still need to use a usb or disk Jan 18 21:16:53 as a precompiled/packaged binary Jan 18 21:17:13 osas: ok, what will apache run on? Jan 18 21:17:23 unslung Jan 18 21:17:42 but take the advice from warlord0 Jan 18 21:18:10 ok, thanks... I do have a 2.2Gb mini drive that I can use, so I'll get to work! Jan 18 21:18:13 advice i took today in this channel. i actually have both installed but only cherokee running Jan 18 21:21:58 when i do make mpd-ipk, when it goes to name the ipkg, is it getting the version # only from the .mk file? or is it getting it from somewhere else? Jan 18 21:22:48 from the .mk file Jan 18 21:23:17 it's weird tho, because there is no longer any refernces to .11 version in the mk file, but it's still creating the ipkg with the old version number Jan 18 21:25:01 osas: i'm unsure on how to fix this, can you suggest a starting point to see how this is occuring? Jan 18 21:25:27 try make mpd-dirclean Jan 18 21:25:44 is the .mk file or the variables from the mk file used to create filenames cached anywhere? Jan 18 21:25:46 and the make mpd Jan 18 21:26:29 btw... MPD is so awesome... Jan 18 21:26:29 there shouldn't be any caching Jan 18 21:26:40 again, pls ask in #nslu2-linux Jan 18 21:26:52 oh, i thought this was an end user issue Jan 18 21:27:23 it is related to development and you may get better answers there ;-) Jan 18 21:27:49 what is mpd? Jan 18 21:33:15 mpd=music player daemon Jan 18 21:33:27 plays music on the slug with a usb audio key Jan 18 21:34:51 oh ... I see Jan 18 21:43:47 anyone recommend a decent blog to run on unslung? something that doesnt use mysql preferably. just installed wordpress and it works but everyso often looses connectivity to the database Jan 18 21:59:27 hello Jan 18 22:04:05 I have some major problem wit my proftp instalation Jan 18 22:04:05 After editing the conf file slightly it doesn't respond to ftp logins Jan 18 22:04:05 I have reversed all changes, but it does not help. Jan 18 22:04:05 So I reverted even more to the standard conf file, that comes along with the installation… still doesn't do it. Jan 18 22:05:02 you're obviously using proftp for a reason, but i got vsftpd running sweet. Jan 18 22:06:12 dont know if u can specify passavie port on that one? Jan 18 22:06:27 yeah i'm running it all passive Jan 18 22:06:43 nice Jan 18 22:06:46 i even got a nice script to cron if your ip changes Jan 18 22:06:59 cool Jan 18 22:07:34 could u borrow me the conf file? Jan 18 22:07:36 :) Jan 18 22:07:45 i guess Jan 18 22:07:51 dcc Jan 18 22:08:07 sure Jan 18 22:08:08 1 sec Jan 18 22:08:13 so nice Jan 18 22:09:10 ahh just remembered i got some dcc issues :( Jan 18 22:09:22 ops Jan 18 22:10:03 could u mail me it? Jan 18 22:10:26 pm Jan 18 22:21:00 I'm probably missing something... I've upgraded the firmware to unslung 6.8, have enabled telnet from the web interface, but when I telent in with admin and admin, it drops the connection... Jan 18 22:21:24 u must use root Jan 18 22:21:40 well i got just that problem after i changed the shell to /opt/bin/sh Jan 18 22:21:53 aahh yes root Jan 18 22:22:06 u/p root/uNSLUng Jan 18 22:22:06 warlord0, did u get the fil? Jan 18 22:22:32 i got it but i'll need somewhere to send it Jan 18 22:22:45 thanks warlord0 and bad, I'm geting tired and missed it in the install text file! duh! Jan 18 22:22:57 heh i know what you mean Jan 18 22:23:18 warlord0, PM Jan 18 22:23:51 yes i'm in a pm? Jan 18 22:33:28 ftp://anonymous:password@217.42.182.238:33021 Jan 18 22:39:28 bad? are you still here? Jan 18 22:50:11 jupp Jan 18 22:50:36 heh i just setup the ftp for you then screwed my config by saving it in dos format! Jan 18 22:52:43 ahh ok you can try now Jan 18 22:55:51 how di i run xinetd.reload Jan 18 22:56:07 what is the syntax for that? Jan 19 01:36:51 can anyone help me with adding a new user Jan 19 01:36:55 i'm using unslug Jan 19 01:41:06 Just add it using the Linksys GUI in the normal fashion, then create the home directory, and edit the password file to give the new user a home directory and a login shell. Jan 19 01:41:54 how do i create the home directory Jan 19 01:42:31 Just as you would any ordinary directory, with the mkdir command Jan 19 01:44:26 i created a new user via the gui, created a dir with the users name in /home, & ran passwd Jan 19 01:44:30 but it still won't work Jan 19 01:46:22 Right - you have to edit the passwd database manually, and add the path to the home directory into the correct field in the user's record in the passwd database file. Same for the shell, as I don't think that the GUI will set that either. Just look at the record for "root" as an example. Jan 19 01:46:50 There's not an "adduser" command on unslung? Jan 19 01:46:58 no by default Jan 19 01:47:01 * joshin runs openslug/gentooslug so has no idea Jan 19 01:47:03 avail as an ipkg Jan 19 01:47:12 Install it, run it, remove it! Jan 19 01:47:16 :) Jan 19 01:47:19 mwester: where is the passwd database and shell config files located? Jan 19 01:47:30 /etc/passwd /etc/shadow /etc/shells Jan 19 01:48:05 Nope, no adduser on unslung out-of-the-box. Jan 19 01:48:34 Unslung doesn't use /etc/shadow either, and as long as you use the same shell as "root" (/bin/sh) you don't need to mess with /etc/shells either. Jan 19 01:49:10 mwester: should i be using adduser or do it your way? Jan 19 01:49:42 There is no adduser. So just edit /etc/passwd - and don't forget that like all Linux config files, you have to use a Linux editor (many a person has locked themselves out of their slug because they edited the passwd file on Windows!) Jan 19 01:49:44 Aah, well then mwester, I shall defer to your unslung knowledge. :) Jan 19 01:50:16 is /etc/passwd the only file i have to change? Jan 19 01:50:21 Yep Jan 19 01:55:07 scant: did you get it working? Jan 19 01:55:24 i did Jan 19 01:55:58 mwester: can you explain the difference between the home directory associated with login and the Private Folder Share created via the GUI? Jan 19 01:56:13 excellent - there's only one other thing that you might encounter -- did you change the ownership of the home directory? Jan 19 01:56:42 no, i haven't changed the ownership Jan 19 01:57:09 Ok, good idea to do that: "chown username /home/homedirectory" should do it. Jan 19 01:57:51 can you explain the diff between the home dir and the private folder share Jan 19 01:58:05 There is no connection between the home directory and the Private Folder Share as far as Linux and standard utilities are concerned. Jan 19 01:58:17 Only the Linksys GUI makes that association. Jan 19 01:58:32 So data copied into one will not appear in the other. Jan 19 01:58:58 Which is generally a good thing, as it means that your home directory is not, by default, shared out for the world to read. Jan 19 01:59:27 hmmm Jan 19 01:59:28 ok Jan 19 01:59:32 i was gonne make the the same dir Jan 19 01:59:48 You can make them the same if you wish, but I don't recommend it - too easy for mistakes to happen. Jan 19 01:59:53 because i don't really use the slug for shares Jan 19 02:00:07 i use it as a general data repository Jan 19 02:00:34 As do I -- so I'd rather have nothing in the user shares at all, or turn them off completely. Jan 19 02:01:00 mwester do you participate in the nslu2-linux channel? Jan 19 02:01:11 Usually. Jan 19 02:01:18 And openslug, too. Jan 19 02:01:20 did you miss my troubleshooting session this afternoon? Jan 19 02:01:42 Hmm. I guess so! I just got back to my desk. Jan 19 02:02:20 eno and rwhitby helped me update mpd.mk to a new version Jan 19 02:04:07 mwester: can you help me with some file permission issues i'm having with the mpd ipkg i created? Jan 19 02:05:43 I have to fall off the edge of the world for a while (router is acting funny) - I'll be back (I hope!) later... Jan 19 02:05:50 oh Jan 19 02:05:59 k Jan 19 02:58:19 i have a quick question about booting up my nslu2 running debian Jan 19 02:59:08 i have an external hard drive and it seems that it makes a difference in which order the nslu2 and the hard drive get turned on Jan 19 02:59:38 if the hard drive gets turned on first the thing never boots correctly Jan 19 02:59:58 has anybody else ever seen this happen? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jan 19 02:59:58 2007