**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 27 02:59:56 2007 Feb 27 02:59:57 The Linksys one is crap! Feb 27 03:00:14 I'm trying to see if there's an update on the debian installer on the yahoo groups Feb 27 03:00:24 I don't use yahoo groups, let me know please. Feb 27 03:06:12 Anyone know if the Linksys USB100TX USB/Ethernet adapter is supported? Feb 27 03:11:10 yes it is (at least on openSlug) Feb 27 03:12:53 How about for Debian? Feb 27 03:13:09 Either way, here goes RC1! Feb 27 08:29:45 Hi! I recently bought myself an NSLU2, and I want to put Debian on it. I'm trying to get the ixp4xx nic module into a daily image of the debian-installer, but slugimage tells me "Unexpected partion (expecting )" .. anyone know anything about that? Feb 27 11:44:28 hi Feb 27 11:44:34 hi Feb 27 11:45:12 i have again problems with my NSLU, do u think the HDD is the problem maybe, cuz i cant format it? Feb 27 15:05:31 hi Feb 27 15:05:51 whats the default login over telnet for nslu with firware R25? Feb 27 15:06:17 when i try admin/admin then the putty window closes... Feb 27 15:07:23 that on an old unslung version? Feb 27 15:07:23 try root/unSLUng Feb 27 15:07:53 no i didnt unslung it Feb 27 15:08:01 i just put R25 and enabled telnet... Feb 27 15:08:10 ok but ill try Feb 27 15:09:11 i tried: root/uNSLUng Feb 27 15:09:25 thats how it is in R68 Feb 27 15:10:38 ok but the main problem i have is: web gui dont wanna format my hdd Feb 27 15:11:42 can you put other firmware on the slug? like unslung, openslug? Feb 27 15:19:01 yea i put unslung 5.5 on it Feb 27 15:19:06 done Feb 27 15:20:13 i pressed format...and its working Feb 27 15:20:24 hurray Feb 27 15:20:43 i hope its gonna work...can it be possible that the HDD doesnt wanna be formatet? Feb 27 15:21:05 not matching to NSLU standards or smth like that.. Feb 27 15:22:00 NOT FORMATTED Feb 27 15:23:28 hmm ok...logged in over telnet... but "fdisk -l" no results.. Feb 27 15:32:35 can my router cause the problem with formatting? Feb 27 15:32:50 FYI Feb 27 15:33:01 on my unslung slug, fdisk -l does nothing Feb 27 15:33:12 cant see the router causing a problem Feb 27 15:33:20 i have had problems formatting mine before Feb 27 15:33:34 and hwo u solved? Feb 27 15:33:40 *how Feb 27 15:33:43 i ended up sticking it on my windows box, deleting all partitions, formatting fat32 before putting it back in the slug and asking it to format it Feb 27 15:34:05 hmm yea i did that too Feb 27 15:34:06 but Feb 27 15:34:22 on original firmware it says its fat/ntfs formatted... Feb 27 15:34:36 and if i want to format..so that its ext he wont..:( Feb 27 15:35:22 the unslung one can just be arsey at times Feb 27 15:35:27 but i once it said NOT FORMATTED and then i put it on windows partition magic and it shows that there are ext2 adn swap partitions.. Feb 27 15:36:29 when i type fdisk -l it should show me the HDD Feb 27 15:36:46 yeah Feb 27 15:36:51 ive been through a lot of this Feb 27 15:36:53 but it doesnt Feb 27 15:36:55 i just kept fiddling till it let me do it Feb 27 15:37:17 ah damn Feb 27 15:37:35 yea i will try it...hmm maybe my NSLU is broke? Feb 27 15:37:40 i dont think so Feb 27 15:38:06 yea me2 cuz it was working with original firmware... Feb 27 15:38:16 but he doesnt wanna sling it Feb 27 15:38:45 why's he on the unslung over the stock firmware then? Feb 27 15:39:05 huh? didnt get that... Feb 27 15:39:23 i unling it..then u have to /sbin/ disk 2 or smth like that... Feb 27 15:40:04 im confused aswell Feb 27 15:40:09 but he doesnt wanna sling it Feb 27 15:40:14 sling it? as throw away? Feb 27 15:40:20 or are you meaning unsling it? Feb 27 15:40:27 ok wait step by step :) Feb 27 15:40:40 where u from? Feb 27 15:41:21 uk Feb 27 15:41:24 as in england Feb 27 15:41:36 ah ok no i have a german site... Feb 27 15:41:51 my german isnt brilliant Feb 27 15:42:01 but i can read write and speak to an extent Feb 27 15:42:17 it says i update with unslung...then i have to type "/sbin/unsling" Feb 27 15:42:31 " /sbin/unsling disk2" Feb 27 15:42:53 /sbin/unsling disk2 Feb 27 15:42:54 yeah Feb 27 15:42:57 hmm ok thx for the help... Feb 27 15:43:07 o g2g now..ill be back later.. Feb 27 15:43:14 ok Feb 27 15:43:15 cya Feb 27 15:43:19 cya thx Feb 27 15:57:46 somebdoy using torrent downloader on the slug. I'm using amule client (not downloading now ) and tried rtorretn (had hashing problemsso quit) and mldonkey. but speeds are a joke compared to my normal laptop server Feb 27 15:57:59 just want to know what are your experience with torrent Feb 27 15:59:55 * joshin bets that your laptop is 20x faster than your slug Feb 27 16:01:50 Yeah ofc but i hear al those succes tories with torrent clients and amule running....so it must work then or not? Feb 27 16:02:32 Of course it works to some degree of working. What seemed to be the bottleneck? Feb 27 16:03:11 What sort of disk do you have attached to your slug? How fast is it? Feb 27 16:03:37 Joshin: I dunno. connection is free, port has been forwared, USB2 HDD , Turboslug with debian. Feb 27 16:03:50 Is your slug 133 or 266mhz? Feb 27 16:03:55 How fast is the hard drive? Feb 27 16:04:39 266 mhz , and the HDD is well USB2 speed. ata133 Feb 27 16:05:17 With a 2.5" hard drive, I'm seeing 10MB/s as my maximum drive speed. Feb 27 16:05:47 USB2 speed is nowhere close to ata133. Feb 27 16:06:22 So the info you are providing is not helpful in solving your problem. Feb 27 16:06:23 3,5" HDD here Feb 27 16:06:41 so let's sau 10mb/s is a nice number for that then Feb 27 16:07:01 So what is your cpu load and memory usage when running amule? Feb 27 16:08:02 joshin: problem was also there without the amule . so it's not that Feb 27 16:08:25 A quick google search shows that amule uses between 39-42MB of ram on startup. Feb 27 16:08:41 Are you running debianslug based on 3.10 or the a 4.X beta? Feb 27 16:09:13 mmmm okay mldonkey uses 15 mb.....is that also to much. Running Debian/NLSU2 full install with a unoffical build (similair to RC2) Feb 27 16:09:34 The Intel driver on Little Endian systems is 20% slower than on Big Endian systems. The 4.X series uses an open sourced ethernet driver which is way faster Feb 27 16:10:32 okay....but that still doesn't explain the low speed on torrent Feb 27 16:10:49 How low of a speed? Feb 27 16:11:08 well 2 kb compared to 300 kb on my laptop... Feb 27 16:11:08 Getting info out of you to debug your problem is more difficult than it should be. Feb 27 16:12:36 what do you want to know then? Feb 27 16:13:05 Are you running debianslug based on 3.10 or the a 4.X beta? <--- Kernel version would also be helpful Feb 27 16:13:30 Not running debainslug running Debian/NLSU2 already told you. kernl version 2.6.18 Feb 27 16:13:34 How many connections were you trying to service Feb 27 16:14:10 how many connection to service? well only want to use it for a torrent and emule donwload server Feb 27 16:15:06 And Debian/NSLU2 is Debian bootstrapped on top of the SlugOS/OpenSlug kernel. Feb 27 16:16:04 Nope, Using the debian installer Feb 27 16:16:18 And how is your kernel installed? Feb 27 16:17:08 simple by using the ARM net installer from debian.org Feb 27 16:20:07 If you are using the Intel driver then that is likely why your performance sucks. I'm running SlugOS BE on my 2 slugs (one running Gentoo) and have reasonable performance when I do torrents if I keep the number of torrents low. Feb 27 16:21:00 and what is reasonable? Feb 27 16:21:23 Within an order of magnitude of your laptop Feb 27 16:22:18 mmmm well rtorrent gave me nice speeds only no webgui and hashing problem. trying to compile ctorrent now... Feb 27 16:23:17 you may want to look at "enhanced ctorrent" since the original ctorrent has been abandoned Feb 27 16:23:55 yeah that i'm compiling now , what program are you using ? Feb 27 16:24:03 enhanced ctorrent Feb 27 16:24:20 With the memory limited to 8MB. Feb 27 16:24:54 and runs okay? Feb 27 16:25:19 btw just saw that mldonkey has a mem problem and normal op with take 100mb ram ...lol Feb 27 16:25:56 Yeah. That's why I was wondering about what you were trying to do. Feb 27 16:26:34 It is slower than a faster computer but the whole machine uses less than 15 watts Feb 27 16:27:04 So I don't care about it being on forever. Feb 27 16:27:25 My slug is also running irssi and proxy (which is how I'm connected to FreeNode) Feb 27 16:27:46 yeah that irssi can it download on DCC server and XDCC servers? Feb 27 16:29:04 using perl scripts, it can Feb 27 16:29:50 mmmm okay..if i get those three working, amule, e-ctorrent and irssi with dcc , then i'm in love. (only have a compile error now . I need automake1.9 Feb 27 16:30:52 Of course, I'm considering upgrading the memory on one of my slugs to 64 or if I feel nutty, 256mb. :) Feb 27 16:32:02 btw which perl script are best for dcc and xdcc? Feb 27 16:32:12 Looking at the the bare CPU board of my spare slug, I'm thinking it may be a bit beyond my soldering skillset though Feb 27 16:33:44 Hey you wanna laugh. I was trying to get truecrypt working for good proctection. Then i saw the story that you speed will drop to 2mb/s when only using XOR and with AES 128 to 1mb/s And i wan to use a AES 256-whirlpool-some other high settings :-) Feb 27 16:35:25 There's supposed to be some crypto features in the Slug's CPU but I don't believe that anyone has figured out how to enable it in linux. Feb 27 16:36:04 that should be cool Feb 27 16:37:07 Nope, I'm wrong. The 420 (in the slug) does not have it. Feb 27 16:49:05 That's the 425, IIRC that has the crypto. Feb 27 16:53:12 Yup. Bummer. Feb 27 17:32:09 Can't i put torrent in queue in ctorrent? Feb 27 19:10:36 Hi all! I got my nslu2 today and i wanted to debianize it, but i went on the "debian on NSLU2" page and saw that the current debian-installer (rc-1) is broken. So, can I use an older debian installer or have i to wait the next fixed release? Feb 27 19:20:25 anyone running debian on the NSLU2 ? Feb 27 19:21:07 i am Feb 27 19:21:21 if you know what your doing, feel free to go ahead and do what you want Feb 27 19:21:36 ive seen the messages about the 'broken' ness on nslu2-linux and the debian arm lists Feb 27 19:21:40 but i havent really read it Feb 27 19:21:50 ive got the RC1 or whatever on mine Feb 27 19:21:57 hi Reedy_Boy! it seems a problem with the signing keys Feb 27 19:22:07 Reedy_Boy: of the repos i think Feb 27 19:22:19 * Reedy_Boy shrugs Feb 27 19:22:53 i think it may mean you have a problem getting the packages when installing Feb 27 19:22:54 or something Feb 27 19:23:25 Reedy_Boy: hum... it's not clear but i was thinking the same Feb 27 19:23:33 hmm. anyone has an opinion about this? i just bought a 2gb usb hdd to be used exclusively for swap on the nslu2. my root fs is on another hdd. everything works fine except that the new hdd has built in spindown capabilities, resulting in constant spindown/up when used as swap. i mean the thing will turn on and off 3 times a minute. i'm afraid it might wear out faster than if it was running all the time. any comment/suggestion? Feb 27 19:23:51 Reedy_Boy: Do you know any workaround? I can't think to anyone at the moment Feb 27 19:23:58 fepede: i'm also happily using debian here Feb 27 19:24:05 I think i reinstalled mine just before the breakage Feb 27 19:24:26 Texture: is it swapping off that? Feb 27 19:24:29 and which OS? Feb 27 19:24:34 Texture: did you installed it before the breakage of the key? Feb 27 19:24:57 i did mine christmas day, then something messed up, and did it a couple of weeks ago Feb 27 19:25:05 Reedy_Boy: it's a debian running amule, which generates regular swap access. Feb 27 19:25:32 fepede: i installed it between two breakages... Feb 27 19:25:51 i found some kernel version to run better on my system Feb 27 19:26:10 2.6.18-4-ixp4xx seems to be doing good here Feb 27 19:26:12 someone such as mwester, caplink or byront may have a better idea Feb 27 19:26:24 Texture: nice :) Feb 27 19:26:50 cSLUG:~# cat /proc/version Feb 27 19:26:50 Linux version 2.6.18-3-ixp4xx (Debian 2.6.18-7) (waldi@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-20)) #1 Tue Dec 5 16:52:07 UTC 2006 Feb 27 19:26:50 SLUG:~# Feb 27 19:27:03 mines slightly out of date Feb 27 19:27:12 yeah... support for debian on the nslu2 seems to be taking off quite well. issues are addressed quickly Feb 27 19:27:28 ill just try installing a package Feb 27 19:27:30 see what happens Feb 27 19:27:49 Reedy_Boy: i had some networking issues with thak kernel, which seems solved on the -4 Feb 27 19:27:54 seems to be downloading fine Feb 27 19:28:10 was it like a dropout/lockout, nothing you could do till you restarted? Feb 27 19:28:23 all the "long" connecions, i mean longer than a few minutes, were broken Feb 27 19:28:29 i know there is the config problem on the default install, need to enable auto eth0 Feb 27 19:28:48 nope, Reedy_Boy, nothing like that Feb 27 19:29:13 oh Feb 27 19:29:23 oh yeah! eth0 now comes up normally all the time Feb 27 19:29:33 mine did, till one day it didntb Feb 27 19:29:38 but that was a registered bug Feb 27 19:29:46 i could remove the dirty "ifup eth0" from /etc/init.d/zleds Feb 27 19:30:06 Reedy_Boy: exactly the same behaviour here Feb 27 19:30:19 upgrade your kernel, that one's worth it :) Feb 27 19:30:21 well, its just installed samba fine Feb 27 19:30:36 and it was painless too Feb 27 19:30:36 what do i do to upgrade the kernel Feb 27 19:30:51 scrap that, ive got dogs to walk Feb 27 19:30:55 back in a bit Feb 27 19:31:10 try it then if your about Feb 27 19:31:11 :) Feb 27 19:31:16 err... well...dont remember... i think i just followed instructions from the mailing list... lemme try to find it Feb 27 19:31:31 i'll be back in about half an hour Feb 27 19:31:31 cyaa Feb 27 19:42:24 caplink811 :) Feb 27 19:54:02 is it feasible to install debian using a daily cd instead of network ? Feb 27 19:54:26 (of course copying the iso on the usb hard disk or something like that) Feb 27 19:56:22 no idea... Feb 27 19:56:34 Ah, did you manage to find the link? Feb 27 19:57:06 Reedy_Boy: sorry, no brain here, i forgot. gonna check now Feb 27 19:57:12 haha Feb 27 19:57:15 ok, ty :) Feb 27 19:57:43 wow! luckily i found maybe an non updated mirror that apparently doesn't have the problem of the expired keys! Feb 27 19:57:54 yeah Feb 27 19:58:00 the mirror.ac.uk seems fine for me Feb 27 19:58:20 i went with a mirror in naples, italy Feb 27 19:58:28 it seems it is working! Feb 27 19:59:54 fair enough Feb 27 20:00:02 thank god some mirrors being slow at updating :D Feb 27 20:00:12 Reedy_Boy: yeah :-) Feb 27 20:01:13 Hi all Feb 27 20:01:54 Reedy_Boy, i found it. pm me with an email address so i can forward it to you. Feb 27 20:02:07 ok :) Feb 27 20:05:53 check your mail, and make sure to read the whole thread. in some case, the upgrade has raised issues. good luck :) Feb 27 20:05:56 Texture: Got it, have a look Feb 27 20:05:59 in a few mins Feb 27 20:06:00 :) Feb 27 20:06:04 thanks Feb 27 20:07:15 that mailing list is precious. Feb 27 20:21:37 I have "du -s /" giving me 25GB, but df tells me I use 131GB. The former is right, but why is this? Feb 27 20:28:48 UncleRemus: They show different things... Feb 27 20:31:53 Texture: How do you upgrade the kernel? is there a guide somewhere? Feb 27 20:34:54 it's in the mail, read the whole thread, really. you wget the kernel image and install it with dpkg Feb 27 20:35:03 apt-get install linux-image-2.6-ixp4xx Feb 27 20:35:23 ooh, you've just sent me a message with 1 message on it? Feb 27 20:35:42 uh? Feb 27 20:35:56 no, the same as before... Feb 27 20:36:23 This morning I have realized that 2.6.18-4 finally made it into unstable Feb 27 20:36:23 in Debian. All the problems that I used to have with 2.6.18-3 seem to be Feb 27 20:36:23 gone, including the endianess problems with tcpdump. So if you are having Feb 27 20:36:23 trouble with stalling network connections, capturing packets or network Feb 27 20:36:23 timeouts, I suggest you upgrade to the new kernel. Feb 27 20:36:24 Greetings, Feb 27 20:36:27 Thomas Feb 27 20:36:30 is all you sent Feb 27 20:36:45 wget Feb 27 20:36:45 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-image-2.6.18-4-ixp4x\ Feb 27 20:36:45 x_2.6.18.dfsg.1-9_arm.deb Feb 27 20:36:45 sudo dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.18-4-ixp4xx_2.6.18.dfsg.1-9_arm.deb Feb 27 20:36:49 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/nslu2-linux/message/17543 Feb 27 20:37:06 Martins method sounds best i think Feb 27 20:37:15 hmm... all the replies appeared in the edit windows on gmail, but they must have been cut at some point Feb 27 20:37:36 Reedy_Boy: OK, I thought they were kinda alike.... So you mean I still have my 225GB's left then, as du would imply? Feb 27 20:37:40 UncleRemus, on my unslung system with du from core-utils it shows me the right values (see http://rafb.net/p/sBOqHG61.html) but there is only one hd on the slug Feb 27 20:37:55 Reedy_Boy: that's what i was referring to. it was in the mail. Feb 27 20:37:58 http://www.computerhope.com/unix/udu.htm Feb 27 20:38:05 http://www.computerhope.com/unix/udf.htm Feb 27 20:38:20 UncleRemus: Those links explain the commands Feb 27 20:45:29 I still don't understand unfortunately. I think I know what du and df gives, still I can't get it right. Here's what I have: Feb 27 20:45:32 http://rafb.net/p/JdXE4687.html Feb 27 20:46:56 du tells me I use 26GB and df tells me I 131GB, or what am I missing? Feb 27 20:47:08 I have one hd on / Feb 27 20:47:13 can you use it with the same parameter set like i done? Feb 27 20:47:20 lik eme Feb 27 20:47:24 Have a brand new Nslu2 hooked up to my network and looking to install Debian. The howto however seems to mention that RC2 of the installer is broken since the key is expires. I had this on a normal desktop last year and fixed it while the system was running, but: Is it possible to fix this during the install of the nslu2? Or beter: Can I wget the key file and apt-key update it from a console? Feb 27 20:47:31 s/lik eme/like me/ Feb 27 20:47:32 caplink811_log meant: like me Feb 27 20:47:33 No, unfortunatelu I can't use -h Feb 27 20:47:58 du --version results in which output? Feb 27 20:48:00 I understand RE Feb 27 20:48:17 ah a bot, sorry :D Feb 27 20:48:22 np ;) Feb 27 20:48:31 So dumb question, what 'key' is needed for Debian? Feb 27 20:48:56 http://ftp-master.debian.org/archive-key-4.0.asc Feb 27 20:49:01 Golfego: We just had someone else do that, as long as you get an un updated mirror Feb 27 20:49:03 you are fine Feb 27 20:49:04 http://rafb.net/p/RjLi6b97.html Feb 27 20:49:15 Aah. Feb 27 20:49:33 * joshin jots that down on the list of why he likes Gentoo better :) Feb 27 20:49:35 They used one in naples italy Feb 27 20:49:41 mirror.ac.uk seems fine Feb 27 20:50:13 Reedy_Boy, so I can just run the RC1 install without any console work aslong as I use a mirror that is up to date? Feb 27 20:50:31 as long as you dont use a mirror that is up to date Feb 27 20:50:41 :-) Feb 27 20:50:42 Golfgeo: yes, i'm installing debian _right now_ from the naples mirror and it is working Feb 27 20:50:53 yeah - him Feb 27 20:50:54 ^^ Feb 27 20:50:55 UncleRemus, maybe that the bb once is a liitle bit crappy, i could send you the core-utils once, dunno if that is available in the repository, when you send me a mail at caplink@gmx.net Feb 27 20:51:36 Another one: Should I partition my USB stick before or during the install? Feb 27 20:51:39 Reedy_Boy: yes... i was captured by the new small amazing object on my desk and wasn't reading the channel ;-) Feb 27 20:52:04 Hi all. Feb 27 20:52:12 Golfgeo: i read somewhere that you can have memory problem formatting it, so i partitioned and formatted it before installing debian Feb 27 20:52:14 hehe Feb 27 20:52:25 :-) thanks mates Feb 27 20:52:29 I'm installing debian _right now_ using the uchicago mirror and it's currently at the partitioning stage. Feb 27 20:52:36 fepede - a tip Feb 27 20:52:48 when you get to a part asking about setting it up as a server and stuff Feb 27 20:52:50 make sure you unselect them all Feb 27 20:52:54 otherwise it will take AGES Feb 27 20:53:01 Is there a way to ignore the key entirely? Feb 27 20:53:06 Or to install the new key? Feb 27 20:53:59 Reedy_Boy: DOH! i just passed it a minute ago! i just leaved the last voice checked! I don't know which packages it will install! Feb 27 20:54:30 ooopsy Feb 27 20:54:30 Reedy_Boy: anyway, it is at 46% in this moment, so it should be acceptable :-) Feb 27 20:54:30 i think it took over 3 hours for me :/ Feb 27 20:54:37 theblue, althoug I don't know if it is possible on the Nslu2 I used this on my normal desktop: http://nekita.no-ip.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=58&mode=&order=0&thold=0 But for this year one should use this file: http://ftp-master.debian.org/archive-key-4.0.asc Feb 27 20:54:37 ahh, ok Feb 27 20:54:46 caplink811_log: Can you just do that? I thought everything needed to go through ipkg? Feb 27 20:54:48 Reedy_Boy: i usually install a minimal system and later all the packages i need Feb 27 20:55:00 yeah Feb 27 20:55:25 i did that the 2nd time, but first time i had minimal or whatever the most appropriate option was Feb 27 20:55:44 is yours a turbo slug? Feb 27 20:55:52 my debian one isnt, might be why it took so long Feb 27 20:55:59 Reedy_Boy: don't know yet! i'm curious to check Feb 27 20:56:07 Golfgeo, So what should I do? Feb 27 20:56:08 lol Feb 27 20:56:15 Reedy_Boy: it says it was manufactured on 05/2006 Feb 27 20:56:18 cat /proc/cpuinfo when you get logged in Feb 27 20:56:23 i think, it should probably be Feb 27 20:56:33 Reedy_Boy: I hope so! Feb 27 20:56:35 fepede, What stage are you at in the install? Feb 27 20:56:44 its only just breaking a resistor if it isnt, very simple Feb 27 20:56:50 Follow Reedy_Boy's instructions and just install from a updated mirror Feb 27 20:56:54 theblue: it is installing the packages in the last stage Feb 27 20:57:00 fepede, Seriously? Feb 27 20:57:03 cat /proc/cpuinfo is ur command Feb 27 20:57:12 a NOT updated mirror Feb 27 20:57:13 fepede, You're using the unofficial image with the built-in Ethernet microcode, aren't you? Feb 27 20:57:22 fepede: hum... yes, seriuosly :-) Feb 27 20:57:31 theblue: yes Feb 27 20:57:42 fepede, What's the address of that mirror, I'll change mine over. Feb 27 20:57:47 SLUG:~# cat /proc/version Feb 27 20:57:47 Linux version 2.6.18-3-ixp4xx (Debian 2.6.18-7) (waldi@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-20)) #1 Tue Dec 5 16:52:07 UTC 2006 Feb 27 20:57:54 UncleRemus, as far as i see, core-utils are available via ipkg, so just do a ipkg install coreutils, and then do a /opt/bin/du -s -c -h / Feb 27 20:58:23 theblue: look for italy, and then it was unina i think (that stands for UNIversity of NAples) Feb 27 20:58:26 God, this thing is taking forever to format Feb 27 20:58:30 fepede, Thanks! Feb 27 20:59:03 theblue: otherwise, someone else suggested mirror.ac.uk Feb 27 20:59:13 theblue: some minutes ago Feb 27 20:59:18 yeah, mines installing fine from that (just put some extra packages on) Feb 27 20:59:33 fepede: after install, install ntp ntpclient and stuff, otherwise the time can go really out Feb 27 20:59:49 Reedy_Boy: ok! thanks for the hint ! Feb 27 20:59:58 Reedy_Boy: isn't the rtc working or what ? Feb 27 21:00:15 i remember, when trying to find some logs, it was like a month out Feb 27 21:00:18 didnt make life easier Feb 27 21:00:38 Hmm,. Feb 27 21:00:41 ps -aef | grep ntp Feb 27 21:00:48 Is the formatting supposed to sit at 33% for a long while? Feb 27 21:00:48 Reedy_Boy: naaaa! it is installing exim! i hate exim :-) Feb 27 21:00:54 oops Feb 27 21:00:55 lol Feb 27 21:01:00 As in, it's formatting a 300GB drive, should it be taking 10 minutes? Feb 27 21:01:13 dunno, mine was an 8gb drive, didnt take that long Feb 27 21:01:19 * theblue wins. Feb 27 21:01:21 theblue: i think you incurred in the low-memory problem i was talking about before Feb 27 21:01:28 actually i don't have ntp running and the slug's clock doesn't seek to drift as it used to Feb 27 21:01:35 fepede, Well, the activity light on the drive is running. Feb 27 21:01:43 meh Feb 27 21:01:44 So I think it's actually doing something. Feb 27 21:02:03 My USB stick seems to have a bad partition table, is deleting any partitions and reinserting the disk an option or does that brick the thing? Feb 27 21:02:04 But if all else goes bad, do I have to reflash, or can I just reboot the slug and SSH back in? Feb 27 21:02:24 theblue: have you seen this? http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Debian/FAQ Feb 27 21:02:27 theblue: as long as it hasnt written the kernel Feb 27 21:02:28 you are fine Feb 27 21:02:36 golfgeo: should work Feb 27 21:03:53 Hmm. Feb 27 21:04:03 Now the formatting dialog inside the SSH window's gone off. Feb 27 21:04:08 Maybe it's actually working. Feb 27 21:04:08 anyone has an idea for *preventing* a disk from spinning down? i've written a dumb script that writes and syncs every second, but it's not a nice solution. worse, it syncs the other disk as well in the process Feb 27 21:04:32 theblue: fine ! :-) Feb 27 21:06:40 Reedy_Boy, the head sector cylinders are now different, I can go back to the factory settings, but does that make any difference? Feb 27 21:07:11 fepede, But I'm still on the uchicago mirror, can I just go back and change it and come back to the time zone selection? Feb 27 21:07:29 There we go! Feb 27 21:07:30 yeah Feb 27 21:07:32 that will work Feb 27 21:07:40 This is going *beautifully*! Feb 27 21:07:42 you can move around fine Feb 27 21:07:47 theblue: great! Feb 27 21:08:00 It had to change mirrors anyway, it couldn't get something from uchicago. Feb 27 21:08:12 Now I'm on unina, so let's find out what happens... Feb 27 21:08:40 theblue: hey! don't steal bandwth to me ;-) Feb 27 21:12:10 fepede, Hey, I'm in Washington, DC, I'm not stealing ANY bandwidth. Feb 27 21:12:11 OOO! Feb 27 21:12:15 Now it's asking for root password. Feb 27 21:12:24 fepede, You've earned a beer for finding that mirror. Feb 27 21:12:57 Valid release signature! Feb 27 21:12:59 I don't believe it! Feb 27 21:13:07 caplink811_log: Thanks for the tip. New results on http://rafb.net/p/76Uitc82.html Feb 27 21:13:27 This is gonna take a while, I fear. Feb 27 21:13:43 theblue: I'm taking note of it ;-) Feb 27 21:14:02 fepede, Please do, this is excellent! Feb 27 21:14:31 wonder if they can prevent the mirrors from being updated...? Feb 27 21:14:36 * theblue grabs his bandwidth vacuum (aka his idiot older brother's Windows Server 2003 (featuring a Pentium II!)) Feb 27 21:14:46 hehehe Feb 27 21:14:58 I'm serious, the idiot actually installed WS2k3 on a Pentium 2. Feb 27 21:15:03 With 64MB of ram. Feb 27 21:15:03 lawl Feb 27 21:15:12 i know its less hungry than XP.... Feb 27 21:15:16 And he didn't even use CAT-5 to network it. Feb 27 21:15:17 shoot him... Feb 27 21:15:21 or shall i do it? Feb 27 21:15:29 He put in an 802.11b (not G!) card. Feb 27 21:15:35 lolz Feb 27 21:15:39 He's two stories below the router. Feb 27 21:15:43 My 2k3 box is wired to my router :) Feb 27 21:15:48 And then he bitches at me why it's slow as BALLS! Feb 27 21:15:50 its behind me on a chest of drays Feb 27 21:15:58 I don't use Windows anymore. Feb 27 21:16:06 100% *nix here! Feb 27 21:16:11 i wish i didnt.. but im a gamer... Feb 27 21:16:13