**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Apr 29 02:59:56 2007
Apr 29 11:00:26 <morrijr> can anyone help?  I've just got my first slug but I'm struggling to connect to it.  At the moment it is plugged directly into my machine with a cross-over cable.  The Upgrade utility (version 2.07) (sercomm was it?) detects the device (0014BF684946) with the current firmware version 2363.  However I've been totally unable to connect to it in anyother manner; the linksys setup program doesn't find it, nor does windows network
Apr 29 11:00:56 <morrijr> oh, the machine is a dual-boot currently running XP but with Kubuntu on it.
Apr 29 11:03:40 <drif> what have you done to your unit so far?
Apr 29 11:04:00 <prey> hey guys i am using unslug 6.8 with my nslu2 and have the following problem: after rebooting the entries in /etc/resolv.conf are lost. does anybody have an idea?
Apr 29 11:05:04 <drif> you can make diversion-script under /unslung/ to rewrite needed changes
Apr 29 11:05:11 <drif> that was to prey
Apr 29 11:06:06 <prey> thx... i'll try ;D
Apr 29 11:07:16 <drif> you'll find some documentation on the matter from wiki
Apr 29 11:08:13 <morrijr> drif: everything I can think off.  Through a switch, without a switch, without changing my IP address (196.168.0.x usually) assigning a static IP, with a cross-over/straight cable with flash drive formatted (ext3/FAT32) with hdd formatted (ext3/FAT32) and each combination.
Apr 29 11:08:23 <morrijr> s/off/of/
Apr 29 11:08:24 <capbot> morrijr meant: drif: everything I can think of.  Through a switch, without a switch, without changing my IP address (196.168.0.x usually) assigning a static IP, with a cross-over/straight cable with flash drive formatted (ext3/FAT32) with hdd formatted (ext3/FAT32) and each combination.
Apr 29 11:08:26 <drif> prey: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Unslung/DiversionScripts
Apr 29 11:08:39 <morrijr> neat bot!
Apr 29 11:09:11 <prey> thank you drif
Apr 29 11:09:12 <drif> capbot: you are aware the default ip is 192.168.1.77?
Apr 29 11:09:13 <capbot> I think you lost me on that one, drif
Apr 29 11:09:26 <drif> capbot: meaning?
Apr 29 11:09:34 <drif> damn :D
Apr 29 11:09:39 <drif> I must be tired..
Apr 29 11:09:51 <morrijr> oh, and I've port scanned my network too
Apr 29 11:10:16 <morrijr> with the static IP on my machine at 192.168.1.10
Apr 29 11:10:31 <drif> morrij: so, first of all - have you accessed the nslu2's admin web pages even once?
Apr 29 11:10:36 <morrijr> drif: no
Apr 29 11:11:08 <drif> ok, then your default ip is 192.168.1.77 - unless you're using dhcp-server on your network
Apr 29 11:11:15 <morrijr> drif: never managed it.  Would /really/ like too.
Apr 29 11:11:16 <drif> and cannot access it from 192.168.1.0
Apr 29 11:11:36 <drif> I mean from 192.168.0.x
Apr 29 11:12:00 <morrijr> I've tried using a dhcp in the range 192.168.1.0-255 and it never assigns an IP to the slug
Apr 29 11:12:15 <drif> I believe the default is static ip
Apr 29 11:12:21 <prey> yeah it is
Apr 29 11:12:30 <drif> so just get your pc a 192.168.1.x address and try to connect .77
Apr 29 11:12:37 <prey> right
Apr 29 11:12:42 <prey> join the same subnet
Apr 29 11:12:52 <morrijr> still can't.  Machine static ip 192.168.1.10 cross-over connection to the slug.  Attempt to access 192.168.1.77  Fails.
Apr 29 11:12:52 <drif> makes sense, eh? ;)
Apr 29 11:13:19 <drif> does the network led switch on?
Apr 29 11:13:30 <drif> when you connect the cord
Apr 29 11:13:34 <morrijr> on the slug, yes.
Apr 29 11:13:44 <drif> and pc as well?
Apr 29 11:13:48 <morrijr> red light only on the machine.  No traffic?
Apr 29 11:13:59 <drif> can't really tell
Apr 29 11:14:20 <drif> but you're using XP - it should be bitching about disconnection if either end doesn't work
Apr 29 11:14:29 <morrijr> yeah :(
Apr 29 11:14:44 <morrijr> says it's connected at 100Mbps
Apr 29 11:14:46 <drif> so you've tried pinging the ip?
Apr 29 11:14:55 <drif> or which means of connection
Apr 29 11:15:12 <morrijr> 100% loss
Apr 29 11:15:27 <drif> and the cable is proven to work?
Apr 29 11:15:30 <morrijr> but the flash utility finds it!
Apr 29 11:15:53 <morrijr> yeah, got a tester, all wires correct.  (and I've tried other cables)
Apr 29 11:16:15 <drif> so you've got just the unit, no hdd connected?
Apr 29 11:16:39 <morrijr> at the moment, it's got a 512 flash in disk2
Apr 29 11:16:45 <morrijr> formatted to ext3
Apr 29 11:17:17 <prey> is your windows firewall disabled? i remeber i had some problem with the linkys software installing a linksys printserver
Apr 29 11:17:58 <drif> ah, forgot that one :D I'm actually not using software firewalls at all in my network
Apr 29 11:18:35 <drif> and most firewalls prompt for access..
Apr 29 11:18:53 <morrijr> xp firewalls off.  Still can't ping/access.
Apr 29 11:19:00 <prey> :(
Apr 29 11:19:21 <drif> tried broadcast ping?
Apr 29 11:19:24 <morrijr> what confuses me is that the flash utility finds it!
Apr 29 11:19:34 <morrijr> linksys setup doesn't find it with firewall off
Apr 29 11:20:05 <morrijr> can you broadcast ping in windows?
Apr 29 11:20:09 <drif> yes
Apr 29 11:20:14 <drif> ping 192.168.1.255
Apr 29 11:20:36 <morrijr> 's what I thought.  Doesn't find anything - Request timed out.
Apr 29 11:21:05 <morrijr> what does the flash utility use?  snmp?
Apr 29 11:21:41 <drif> which flash utility is that btw? I've always used just upslug2
Apr 29 11:21:54 <morrijr> drif: should the slug respond even if it has no drives connected?
Apr 29 11:22:02 <drif> yes
Apr 29 11:23:01 <morrijr> thought so.  Just not mentioned anywhere specifically.
Apr 29 11:23:02 <morrijr> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/RecoverFromABadFlash
Apr 29 11:23:15 <morrijr> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Main/SercommFirmwareUpdater
Apr 29 11:23:49 <drif> ok, so it's sercomm
Apr 29 11:23:58 <morrijr> yeah :/
Apr 29 11:24:16 <drif> thought about installing some OS?
Apr 29 11:24:30 <morrijr> on what?  The PC or the slug?
Apr 29 11:24:34 <drif> slug
Apr 29 11:24:51 <drif> I believe XP and ubuntu are sufficient ;)
Apr 29 11:24:59 <morrijr> would have liked to get it working ootb before scragging it ;)
Apr 29 11:25:08 <morrijr> just so if it's broke I can return it
Apr 29 11:25:27 <morrijr> what would you recommend?
Apr 29 11:25:37 <morrijr> (for the slug)
Apr 29 11:25:38 <drif> to be on the safe side - just return the unit
Apr 29 11:25:57 <morrijr> yeah, looks like it's going to have to be.
Apr 29 11:26:01 <drif> if you happen to render it unresponsive (even to flashing util)
Apr 29 11:26:33 <drif> I might be stupid enough to just flash it over ;) but don't be me
Apr 29 11:26:45 <morrijr> really must investigate getting some JTAG equipment.
Apr 29 11:26:49 <morrijr> flash it over?
Apr 29 11:26:56 <drif> that original firmware
Apr 29 11:27:01 <drif> unslung or something
Apr 29 11:27:08 <drif> but stop listening to me ;)
Apr 29 11:27:20 <morrijr> lol - you are the only one talking to me atm :)
Apr 29 11:27:37 <morrijr> (apart from prey who has his own issues :) )
Apr 29 11:27:50 <morrijr> drif: thanks btw.
Apr 29 11:28:04 <drif> for nothing? :D yeah, you're welcome
Apr 29 11:28:26 <morrijr> hey, at least you gave me things to try.
Apr 29 11:28:42 <morrijr> don't discount that.
Apr 29 11:29:01 <morrijr> attempting to help unsucessfully is still appreciated.
Apr 29 11:29:36 <drif> :)
Apr 29 11:30:13 <drif> you could try some magic under ubuntu though
Apr 29 11:30:19 <drif> atleast I would ;)
Apr 29 11:31:25 <morrijr> I struggle with getting wireless and wired to work at the same time under ubuntu - it always wants to pick one or so I can't have two different subnets working.
Apr 29 11:31:34 <morrijr> what would be the 'magic' though?
Apr 29 11:33:06 <drif> monitoring the network traffic - is there any from slug's behalf
Apr 29 11:33:21 <drif> any requests at all
Apr 29 11:33:42 <morrijr> hum, could install eathreal on here...
Apr 29 11:33:57 <morrijr> sorry, ethereal
Apr 29 11:34:04 <drif> smartsniff is also rather good
Apr 29 11:34:13 <drif> simple but works
Apr 29 11:35:05 <morrijr> ok, downloading...
Apr 29 11:35:24 <drif> you might need that additional driver also
Apr 29 11:35:31 <drif> in case you chose smartsniff
Apr 29 11:35:43 <drif> to cover all kind of traffic
Apr 29 11:35:50 <morrijr> got
Apr 29 11:42:35 <morrijr> installed, rebooting slug
Apr 29 11:43:00 <drif> anticipating the results..
Apr 29 11:43:43 <morrijr> booted, beeped.  No traffic on 192.168.1.x addreses
Apr 29 11:44:35 <drif> try using sercomm while capture?
Apr 29 11:44:41 <morrijr> ok.
Apr 29 11:44:43 <drif> to detect the device
Apr 29 11:45:07 <drif> are you using the installed device for capture?
Apr 29 11:45:11 <drif> or wihch
Apr 29 11:45:12 <drif> which
Apr 29 11:45:24 <drif> s/device/device driver/
Apr 29 11:45:25 <capbot> drif meant: which
Apr 29 11:45:33 <drif> :D hehe, doesn't work in retrospect..
Apr 29 11:45:48 <drif> stupid bot :D
Apr 29 11:45:57 <morrijr> nothing detected.
Apr 29 11:46:03 <morrijr> using the winpcap driver
Apr 29 11:46:16 <drif> but sercomm finds it anyway?
Apr 29 11:46:20 <morrijr> yup
Apr 29 11:46:33 <morrijr> which is something I'm *really* confused about.
Apr 29 11:46:34 <drif> hm, then try ethereal - there must be something
Apr 29 11:47:04 <morrijr> don't think it'll be any different - ethereal uses the winpcap lib too.
Apr 29 11:47:42 <morrijr> but *shrug* I'll try (most) things once... downloading
Apr 29 11:51:43 <morrijr> 192.168.15.103!
Apr 29 11:52:08 <drif> slug's ip?
Apr 29 11:52:48 <morrijr> looks like.  Am not brilliant at decifering ethereal logs :/
Apr 29 11:53:01 <morrijr> protocol is SSDP - mean anything to you?
Apr 29 11:53:14 <drif> tried to ping it yet?
Apr 29 11:53:42 <morrijr> timed out
Apr 29 11:54:02 <morrijr> SSDP - simple service discovery protocol
Apr 29 11:54:26 <morrijr> going to switch capture back on and reboot the slug
Apr 29 11:55:50 <morrijr> don't know how the hell it would have got that IP!
Apr 29 11:56:21 <drif> sounds truely strange, unless it's some fallback protocol
Apr 29 11:57:43 <morrijr> in the info is the same name as on the bottom of the slug.
Apr 29 11:57:57 <drif> in the info?
Apr 29 11:58:06 <morrijr> of ethereal
Apr 29 11:59:48 <morrijr> got a reply to ping!
Apr 29 12:00:08 <morrijr> I'm into the web interface!
Apr 29 12:00:12 <drif> which ip?
Apr 29 12:00:14 <morrijr> wow - that was hard.
Apr 29 12:00:20 <morrijr> 192.168.15.103
Apr 29 12:00:39 <drif> good, but just return the damn unit if the occures again
Apr 29 12:00:48 <drif> doesn't sound too rock solid
Apr 29 12:00:54 <drif> the=it
Apr 29 12:00:55 <morrijr> huh.
Apr 29 12:02:12 <morrijr> need to deal with the children - back in a min.
Apr 29 12:10:14 <morrijr> I wish it'd been programmed to look for a dhcp server before falling back to a hardcoded address.  Then I could have just looked in my server logs.
Apr 29 12:10:17 <morrijr> oh well.
Apr 29 14:04:53 <Harry_S> hi
Apr 29 14:06:06 <Naib> hi
Apr 29 14:09:15 <Harry_S> i'm trying to install debian with the installer and retrieve an error message at this packege:"libdb4.2". Is this a known error?
Apr 29 14:10:06 <Naib> maybe... 
Apr 29 14:10:16 <Naib> did you make some swap?
Apr 29 14:10:30 <Harry_S> about 150 MB
Apr 29 14:11:01 <Naib> can you increase?
Apr 29 14:11:23 <Harry_S> i'm still waiting for the installer to finish.
Apr 29 14:11:34 <Naib> is it still working?
Apr 29 14:11:43 <Harry_S> Yes it is.
Apr 29 14:12:25 <Naib> ahh... thought it had locked up (sorry). There is a known issue with low memory and where it crashes out is different w.r.t. swap+RAM
Apr 29 14:12:48 <Naib> as long as it installs and boots fine do an apt-get update and upgrade should sort it
Apr 29 14:14:03 <Harry_S> is the libdb4.2 nessessary for any boot-up process?
Apr 29 14:18:13 <Naib> not to sure just checking... only possiblity could be samba
Apr 29 14:18:33 <Naib> but thats not a main boot process
Apr 29 14:20:55 <Naib> its needed for exim4 from a fresh install, but that isn't a needed process (like init and such)
Apr 29 14:21:00 <Naib> so should be ok
Apr 29 14:22:42 <Harry_S> Argh..... "Base system installation error"...
Apr 29 14:24:57 <Naib> can you ssh in with another terminal?
Apr 29 14:25:06 <Naib> thats what I did when I had issues with the installer
Apr 29 14:25:18 <Naib> ssh in with one terminal and start the install
Apr 29 14:25:32 <Naib> in another terminal choose the maitenence mode and just tailed the logfile 
Apr 29 14:25:46 <Naib> thats where I found I was hitting memory problems when
Apr 29 14:26:08 <Naib> 1) no swap, 2) formatting ext3, 3) formatting a swap partition that is above a certain size
Apr 29 14:34:12 <Harry_S> The next try is running, syslog is in tail
Apr 29 15:30:35 <Eddie> anyone got any experience with setting up an IRC bouncer on a slug?
Apr 30 00:07:52 <dlumberg> anyone got a minute?
Apr 30 00:09:18 <Lunar_Lamp> I'm around, though don't know if I'll be able to help.
Apr 30 00:09:55 <dlumberg> I just re-flashed the firmware from 6.8 to stock back to 6.8
Apr 30 00:10:15 <dlumberg> I noticed that on the admin pages it's showing that it's running the stock firmware
Apr 30 00:10:32 <dlumberg> and I'm not seeing the slug and penquin buddies pic anymore
Apr 30 00:10:59 <Lunar_Lamp> Have you forced a refresh of the admin pages?
Apr 30 00:11:06 <Lunar_Lamp> (F5 or ctrl+F5)
Apr 30 00:11:10 <dlumberg> yeah
Apr 30 00:11:25 <Lunar_Lamp> Otherwise, it would seem you didn't get the flash to work properly.
Apr 30 00:11:41 <dlumberg> wait, I just cleared the cache in FF
Apr 30 00:11:44 <dlumberg> that fixed it
Apr 30 00:11:56 <Lunar_Lamp> :-)
Apr 30 00:12:01 <dlumberg> thanks
Apr 30 00:12:15 <dlumberg> I though that that might be why the format utility wasn't working
Apr 30 00:12:28 <dlumberg> but I forced the flash drive to format NTFS
Apr 30 00:12:31 <dlumberg> then it worked
Apr 30 00:12:36 <dlumberg> so I'm good
Apr 30 00:12:38 <dlumberg> thanks
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