**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 09 02:59:57 2007
May 09 03:36:59 <Maybelline> anyone got a sec for a NSLU2 question about SMBFS speeds?
May 09 03:45:32 <mwester> The answer is pretty much "slow"
May 09 03:46:11 <Maybelline> I get 4000+ KB/s with FTP, and 250KB/s with SMBFS... sound about right?
May 09 03:47:06 <mwester> You'd have to check the mailing list archives on Yahoo -- the numbers vary.  Your FTP figures are very good for the device, though.
May 09 03:49:03 <mwester> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/Performance
May 09 03:49:57 <mwester> What firmware are you using?
May 09 03:53:04 <Maybelline> stock... R63, I think
May 09 03:55:37 <mwester> Ok.  .25 MB/s is slow for the SMB access; I think most folks see 2-3 MB/s transfer rate.  It's very sensitive on the number of files; the best transfer rates are with very few, but very large files in a directory.
May 09 03:55:49 <Maybelline> OK, according to the wiki, I should expect around 3MB/s for SMBFS.  I'll try booting to a live CD, and see if that helps
May 09 03:56:36 <Maybelline> is there a preferred mounting method?  I'm currently using cifs in fstab, but smbfs didn't help
May 09 03:58:27 <mwester> Install Unslung, or SlugOS on the NSLU2, and then use NFS?  :-)
May 09 03:59:10 <mwester> I'm not sure about cirfs or smbfs tuning -- I suspect there's all sorts of potential gotchas there.
May 09 03:59:32 <Maybelline> unslinging sounds like my favorite option, anyway... just for sheer geekness
May 09 03:59:37 <Maybelline> Thanks
May 09 13:02:37 <barnseenio> any sluggers here tried 'edna' ?
May 09 13:59:52 <pluesch0r> evening. i'm trying to install debian on my nslu2 .. so far, everything went well, but i'm running into a ram issue when trying to partition disks. now i found http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Debian/DebianInstallerDisconnectsSSH - unfortunately, that screen doesn't have a 'Do not format/keep existing data' option .. what do i do?
May 09 18:43:08 <janne50111> hi I need change my ip on unslung but it dont take effect so to speak, there is a msg when I click on admin-pages: error fail to get samba information. can I do to from command instead,how?
May 09 18:44:27 <janne50111> I dont need samba i need a new ip and dns.
May 09 18:45:03 <janne50111> nad I re-unslung and same problem=(
May 09 18:45:07 <janne50111> *and
May 09 18:51:18 <mwester> Your sysconf area is probably messed up.  Try resetting that (you'll have to reset all the Linksys/Unslung parameters such as shares, etc).  http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/ResetSysConf
May 09 18:51:56 <mwester> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/FailSambaInformation
May 09 19:03:40 <janne50111> thanks mwester
May 09 19:04:21 <janne50111> that one give me my hope back=)
May 09 19:32:43 <Gav> Hi folks
May 09 19:32:46 <janne50111> mvester erase all made the trick
May 09 19:32:50 <janne50111> hi Gav
May 09 19:32:59 <Gav> new "unslinger" with a bit of an oddity preparing to unsling
May 09 19:33:46 <Gav> My hope is as follows: unsling to 6.8-beta, using a 1gb flash disk as root, and a 320gb drive (NTFS partitioned) as data disk - to allow it to be dropped into Windows/MacOS boxes as necessary
May 09 19:34:18 <osas> I found that 5.x is better for flash
May 09 19:34:20 <Gav> Formatted the USB stick in the SLUG, fine, reviewing the partition I have ~720mb data, 128mb swap, 128mb config
May 09 19:34:38 <osas> don't enable swap on the flash
May 09 19:34:46 <osas> it will kill your flash
May 09 19:35:14 <Gav> I intend to "swap off" after install sure - however, here's the issue, after reboot, I get an odd message, when the USB is in port 1, the web interface is also showing port 2 in use, with a 6mb disk, 3% full
May 09 19:35:18 <Gav> when it's empty
May 09 19:36:19 <osas> didn't play with this setup
May 09 19:37:12 <osas> I remember something about the need to use the right USB port ...
May 09 19:37:18 <osas> it is on the wiki
May 09 19:37:40 <Gav> yeah, read that
May 09 19:37:42 <osas> and there are some issues when you want to use multiple disks ...
May 09 19:38:03 <osas> try to boot without the big drive
May 09 19:38:10 <osas> and attach the drive later on
May 09 19:38:10 <Gav> wiki suggest that for 6.8 use of port doesnt matter too much, generally user port 2 unless you plan on formatting the big HDD with the NSLU, in which case you gotta use port 1
May 09 19:38:40 <osas> if you plan to use the flash, I suggest to use the 5.x
May 09 19:38:58 <Gav> why so? (i'm new) - what're the advs/disadvs?
May 09 19:38:59 <osas> I got constant disk access with 6.8
May 09 19:39:12 <osas> and therefore I went back to 5.x
May 09 19:39:15 <Gav> you've stopped it updating timestamps, etc?
May 09 19:39:27 <osas> yup
May 09 19:39:41 <Gav> odd
May 09 19:39:43 <osas> I mounted all the stuff in memory, including /tmp
May 09 19:41:11 <janne50111> hm... i run it for months with swap on no killing of the stick..
May 09 19:42:15 <osas> I run asterisk on nslu (on a stick) with everything on memory
May 09 19:42:21 <osas> over a year now
May 09 19:42:38 <osas> no swap
May 09 19:48:45 <osas> janne50111: free will reveal how much swap is used
May 09 19:53:03 <janne50111> yes it always says 28 lol so mabe it not works
May 09 19:53:08 <janne50111> *maybe
May 09 19:53:51 <janne50111> they are cheap so 1 option is clone it as backup.
May 09 19:55:49 <osas> I prefer the stick because is quiet and it doesn't have moving parts (reliable)
May 09 20:01:34 <janne50111> yea me to
May 09 20:01:43 <janne50111> i run a dc hub on my
May 09 20:08:17 <quack100> hi all. Can someone sanity check my understanding of the output of "df" for me?
May 09 20:08:55 <quack100> I have a fresh slug, trying to unsling it. Got the firmware flashed OK & having problems making the next steps
May 09 20:09:48 <quack100> It's OK to have the same flesystem show up on multiple lines in df OK? But this output looks messed up to me:
May 09 20:10:11 <quack100> # df
May 09 20:10:15 <quack100> Filesystem           1k-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
May 09 20:10:15 <quack100> rootfs               288134044     45216 285161548   0% /
May 09 20:10:15 <quack100> /dev/sdb1                 6528      6340       188  97% /initrd
May 09 20:10:15 <quack100> /dev/sdb1            288134044     45216 285161548   0% /
May 09 20:10:15 <quack100> /dev/sdb1            288134044     45216 285161548   0% /share/hdd/data
May 09 20:10:16 <quack100> /dev/sdb2               116661      4142    111315   4% /share/hdd/conf
May 09 20:10:36 <quack100> (That's following unslinging & a reboot)
May 09 20:13:07 <mwester> Nothing wrong with that.
May 09 20:13:49 <quack100> OK - I was concerned cos sdb1 seems to have two different sizes - looking like it appears as the 300GB external & also the internal memory
May 09 20:14:24 <quack100> (or is that part of the magic that unslinging does?)
May 09 20:15:17 <mwester> df is easily confused.  I think this has been fixed, but it's an obscure case because what triggers it is the switchover that the boot does from firmware to disk in mid-boot - few other systems do that.
May 09 20:15:58 <quack100> ahhh - great weight off my mind :-). Thanks. Is there something more reliable I can use to tell me what's where?
May 09 20:18:15 <mwester> Actually, df is a reasonably good tool.  You can cat /proc/mounts as well.
May 09 20:19:23 <quack100> nod - I saw the unsling script was checking that - I guess df gets its 'what's mounted where' info from there
May 09 20:20:15 <quack100> My setup is 2 300GB drives... originally planned to run RAID1 but reading around & trying it myself made me chicken out. Current plan is to use one drive & backup nightly to the other
May 09 20:21:02 <quack100> So now, having unslung, I turn on the 2nd drive & df shows:
May 09 20:21:16 <quack100> /dev/sda2               116661      4142    111315   4% /share/flash/conf
May 09 20:21:16 <quack100> /dev/sda2               116661      4142    111315   4% /share/hdd/conf
May 09 20:22:01 <mwester> Yep.
May 09 20:22:05 <quack100> Is that the "very bad things" that the wiki warns about when using two drives? I DID unsling to HDD1 so I thought it should be OK
May 09 20:22:22 <quack100> Ahhh - you're still sounding as though this is expected? :-)
May 09 20:23:51 <mwester> Something like it should happen anyway.  Basically, upon initial boot with two drives, the device should end up booting from the drive in USB 1, and the conf partition that is mounted on both mount points should be the one associated with the disk in USB 1.
May 09 20:24:08 <mwester> Thus the disk in USB 2 only has it's data partition visible.
May 09 20:24:50 <NSLU2-IRC> hello everyone
May 09 20:24:55 <NSLU2-IRC> i need help :(
May 09 20:25:02 <NSLU2-IRC> my slug wont respond
May 09 20:25:22 <NSLU2-IRC> its a new 2007 nslu2 
May 09 20:25:50 <NSLU2-IRC> i need to flash the original firmware back on to install unslung 6.8 beta
May 09 20:25:55 <NSLU2-IRC> can someone help
May 09 20:25:56 <quack100> OK - many thanks mwester, I'll continue - it sounds like it's my understanding that's iffy, not the slug :-)
May 09 20:25:59 <GICarey> 'lo (got DC'd)
May 09 20:26:20 <GICarey> ok, all unslung and in - this may be old news, but would seem the processor in my slug is a bit quicker than the norm?
May 09 20:26:32 <GICarey> Processor       : XScale-IXP425/IXC1100 rev 1 (v5b)
May 09 20:26:32 <GICarey> BogoMIPS        : 527.56
May 09 20:26:32 <GICarey> Features        : swp half thumb fastmult edsp
May 09 20:26:32 <GICarey> Hardware        : Intel IXDP425 Development Platform
May 09 20:26:32 <GICarey> Revision        : 0000
May 09 20:26:33 <GICarey> Serial          : 0000000000000000
May 09 20:26:35 <GICarey> # Processor       : XScale-IXP425/IXC1100 rev 1 (v5b)
May 09 20:26:58 <Magma82> ive tried all the tutorials on the site and none work
May 09 20:27:10 <Magma82> can someone help me for 5 minutes
May 09 20:27:49 <GICarey> 'sup magma82?
May 09 20:27:52 <Magma82> yo GI
May 09 20:28:05 <Magma82> right ive had unslung 6.8 beta running perfect with an external hdd
May 09 20:28:22 <Magma82> but decided i wanted to use a Flash usb drive to unsling to
May 09 20:29:01 <Magma82> i tried flashing with all the methods red boot / UGUTIL
May 09 20:29:02 <Magma82> and my slug will not flash red light
May 09 20:29:22 <GICarey> ah - you're beyond my help then
May 09 20:29:23 <Magma82> now ive tried just using hard drive and now it doesnt work at all
May 09 20:29:38 <Magma82> all lights go out after 15 - 20 seconds
May 09 20:29:57 <Magma82> flashes amber for 10 secs then flashes green for 5 secs
May 09 20:30:00 <Magma82> then they all go out
May 09 20:30:28 <mwester> Follow the procedure to enter upgrade mode using the reset button.
May 09 20:30:47 <Magma82> mwester i have .... held in reset button for ages  turned on at front held it in still
May 09 20:30:55 <Magma82> and it jsut flashes amber then starts flashing green
May 09 20:30:57 <Magma82> then all lights go out
May 09 20:31:09 <Magma82> doesnt seem any different holding reset or not
May 09 20:31:10 <mwester> Use low ambient light, and the transition to "red" is often missed because it looks more "orange".  Always works if done correctly.
May 09 20:31:23 <Magma82> sah
May 09 20:31:25 <Magma82> ah
May 09 20:31:33 <Magma82> so when flash red
May 09 20:31:38 <Magma82> telnet 192.168.0.1 ?
May 09 20:31:44 <Magma82> and type upgrade ?
May 09 20:32:23 <mwester> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/UseTheResetButtonToEnterUpgradeMode
May 09 20:32:34 <GICarey> you're on a local x-over, etc, with route configured to the 192.168.0.X network on your PC?
May 09 20:33:04 <mwester> If you use the reset button approach (on the wiki above) you will not need to do the telnet to redboot technique
May 09 20:33:07 <Magma82> yes crossover cable from pc to slug direct  pc = 192.168.0.2 255.255.255.0  
May 09 20:33:29 <mwester> Once the device blinks red/green, it is in upgrade mode, and is waiting for a download.
May 09 20:33:59 <mwester> Use the sercomm upgrade utility (NOT THE LINKSYS ERASEALL!) to upgrade from Windows, use upslug2 to upgrade from Linux.
May 09 20:33:59 <Magma82> im using windows
May 09 20:34:23 <mwester> Either tool will detect the slug on the network in upgrade mode, and allow you to download new firmware.
May 09 20:34:24 <Magma82> sercomm upgrade utility does that = Upgrade_207_XP.exe
May 09 20:34:41 <Magma82> which installs as Ugutil ?
May 09 20:34:47 <mwester> Yep
May 09 20:34:51 <mwester> Ugly icon, too.
May 09 20:34:54 <Magma82> well when i press browse devices
May 09 20:34:59 <Magma82> it doesnt find anything
May 09 20:35:13 <mwester> Is your slug in upgrade mode (blinking red/green)?
May 09 20:35:30 <Magma82> no it blinks orange for 10 secs the green for 5 then all lights go out
May 09 20:35:41 <mwester> Right - you need to make the slug enter upgrade mode.
May 09 20:35:53 <mwester> Use the wiki link above, it's never failed.
May 09 20:35:54 <Magma82> how
May 09 20:36:12 <Magma82> ive read 2007 slugs are different
May 09 20:36:13 <mwester> http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/UseTheResetButtonToEnterUpgradeMode
May 09 20:36:50 <Magma82> ahhhhh
May 09 20:36:54 <Magma82> just read the bottom bit
May 09 20:37:02 <Magma82> new slugs do just go slightly darker orange
May 09 20:37:09 <Magma82> that is when u release the reset button
May 09 20:37:28 <mwester> It may take a few tries to get it right, but it works.  The biggest problem is that most people are looking for strobe-light sorts of changes in intensity :)  It's really subtle.
May 09 20:37:42 <Magma82> ok thanks for your time mwester
May 09 20:37:46 <mwester> np
May 09 20:37:54 <Magma82> hopefully ill be right back to tell ya how i got on
May 09 20:37:58 <Magma82> brb
May 09 20:40:21 <mwester> GICarey: if your kernel is correct, you do seem to have something that hasn't been reported to date.  What's the markings on the NSLU2 (date of manufacture)?
May 09 20:42:33 <janne50111> hm I installed unslung-devel but got: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
May 09 20:46:55 <janne50111> solved it
May 09 20:48:37 <Magma82> hey mwester
May 09 20:48:42 <Magma82> it worked !
May 09 20:48:55 <mwester> :)
May 09 20:49:02 <Magma82> the change of LED is really subtle turned lights right down in room
May 09 20:49:16 <Magma82> got confused because i had an old slug 2 years back which actually went red
May 09 20:50:02 <Magma82> can get twonkyvision and ccxstream working again now
May 09 20:50:16 <Magma82> twonky 4.1 with xbox 360 and ccx for xbox 1
May 09 20:56:36 <Magma82> im off for now . fanatastic job with the homebrew stuff on this device... much respect to everyone involved have fun with your slugs.....
May 09 21:03:35 <GICarey> a
May 09 21:03:42 <GICarey> oops, back from dinner
May 09 21:03:49 <GICarey> mwester, looking @ SLUG now
May 09 21:04:20 <GICarey> Manuf 01/2007
May 09 21:04:50 <GICarey> Serial SGA10G10653
May 09 21:05:21 <mwester> Cool - thanks.  Looks like Linksys may have made a change.  I wonder what else may have changed...
May 09 21:05:32 <GICarey> kernel is whatever is installed as standard by unslung 6.8-beta
May 09 21:05:44 <GICarey> mem still seems to be 32mb
May 09 21:06:20 <GICarey> anything else you want looked at?
May 09 21:06:23 <mwester> Can you cut and paste the boot log (dmesg) to a pastebin?
May 09 21:06:44 <mwester> (I'm curious about the flash chip, the original one is discontinued by Intel)
May 09 21:06:57 <GICarey> pastebin?
May 09 21:08:10 <Gav> got kicked for sending you 162 lines in private chat mwester
May 09 21:08:15 <Gav> they arrive?
May 09 21:08:32 <mwester> Nope.  www.pastebin.ca
May 09 21:09:28 <mwester> And then paste the URL here.  Cool tool for exchanging diagnostics, logs, etc.
May 09 21:12:13 <Gav> ok, cool
May 09 21:12:14 <Gav> http://www.pastebin.ca/479715
May 09 21:12:22 <Gav> very handy, yeah. will remember that one
May 09 21:12:49 <Gav> <-- GICarey by the way, seem to have exchanged nicks on reconnect :)  - sure you guessed
May 09 21:14:30 <mwester> Got it - thanks!
May 09 21:14:32 <Gav> np
May 09 21:14:46 <Gav> anything else you need, let me know - gicarey@hotmail.com will get to me eventually
May 09 21:16:03 <spackle> afternoon (gmt-5)
May 09 21:16:05 <mwester> Looks like just the CPU clock speed is bumped up.  Can't tell about the flash chip; but the flash is still a CFI chip.
May 09 21:16:22 <mwester> I may have to go out in search of a newly-manufactured slug now... :)
May 09 21:16:46 <spackle> anyone here done the de-underclocking chip clip thing on a recent NSLU2?
May 09 21:19:48 <Gav> lol mew - if it helps I bought mine from EBuyer in the UK
May 09 21:21:03 <mwester> Gav: is your unit keeping correct time?\
May 09 21:21:24 <Gav> erm, checking...
May 09 21:21:28 <mwester> (just curious to see if the TOD clock has doubled in speed)
May 09 21:21:39 <Gav> configured the clock to match my desktop box when I got in from work, about 7pm
May 09 21:21:48 <Gav> date is now reporting 22:14
May 09 21:21:53 <Gav> 6 mins behind my desktop
May 09 21:21:58 <Gav> odd
May 09 21:22:06 <Gav> ah well, would be ahead if it were OC'd
May 09 21:22:12 <mwester> Ok.  that's good then.
May 09 21:22:47 <Gav> timing crystal seems to match CPU you mean?
May 09 21:23:26 <mwester> I would suspect that it's still 33 MHz
May 09 21:23:45 <mwester> Just that the core speed of the CPU is doubled.
May 09 21:24:00 <mwester> Unless something else changed, and the kernel is mis-measuring the speed...
May 09 21:24:26 <spackle> what do you get from cat /proc/cpuinfo ?
May 09 21:24:43 <Gav> pasted into the link above:  http://www.pastebin.ca/479715
May 09 21:25:02 <Gav> anything I can run and time on a fairly default install for you mwester?
May 09 21:25:03 <spackle> oh, that's what that was :)
May 09 21:25:55 <mwester> Not off the top of my head...
May 09 21:26:18 <spackle> mine's a little different: Processor       : XScale-IXP42x Family rev 1 (v5l)
May 09 21:27:42 <Gav> ok, getting whined at by the misses "stop being a geek & come watch telly"
May 09 21:27:58 <mwester> :-)
May 09 21:27:59 <Gav> may run up an IRC client on the laptop ;) else back to geek some more tomorrow!
May 09 21:28:52 <Gav> next job for me is to move swap off the USB stick and onto a new partition at the end of the 300mb NTFS, and look at configuring an itunes server!
May 09 21:29:12 <Gav> anyhow, for now, TTFN folks!
May 09 21:31:02 <yxx> hi all, how do I get a usb mouse working with the nslu2?
May 09 21:34:28 <mwester> Er, wouldn't you need a display first?
May 09 21:35:17 <yxx> just using it as sensor device .. if it works
May 09 21:37:18 <mwester> Oh.  What firmware?
May 09 21:37:35 <mwester> You need the hid drivers.  hid-core and usbhid, I think
May 09 21:37:49 <mwester> That should cause /dev/mouse to be available, IIRC
May 09 21:38:11 <yxx> unslung 6.8
May 09 21:38:33 <mwester> No hid drivers built for that release, I'm afraid.
May 09 21:39:21 <mwester> You'd either need to build them yourself, or consider alternate firmware (OpenSlug 3.10 has the drivers available)
May 09 21:39:30 <yxx> ok
May 09 21:40:13 <yxx> i'm new to openslug, does it have ipkg also?
May 09 21:40:59 <mwester> Yes
May 09 21:41:32 <yxx> thanks
May 09 21:42:18 <mwester> OpenSlug does not have a web gui, though -- it's more of a standard Linux system.
May 09 21:44:10 <yxx> ok, I will test and see how it goes :)
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