**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 03 02:59:58 2007
Jun 03 09:32:44 <xkr47> can one partition an usb stick such that there is both a FAT and some ext3 partitions and windows would still recognize it ?
Jun 03 09:33:00 <xkr47> (the FAT partition that is)
Jun 03 09:35:19 <xkr47> hmm, I'll ditch the swap partition temporarily to get a little space :)
Jun 03 15:04:50 <EmuandCo> I have installed emacs on my unslung. But typing "emacs" does not do anything. Why?
Jun 03 15:20:20 <Lunar_Lamp> Define "does not do anything"?
Jun 03 15:20:27 <Lunar_Lamp> Do you get an error message?
Jun 03 15:23:56 <EmuandCo> app not found
Jun 03 15:24:19 <Lunar_Lamp> Right, ok.
Jun 03 15:24:24 <Lunar_Lamp> How did you install emacs?
Jun 03 15:24:57 <EmuandCo> ipkg install emacs
Jun 03 15:25:10 <Lunar_Lamp> hmm, ok
Jun 03 15:25:16 <EmuandCo> ;-)
Jun 03 15:25:20 <Lunar_Lamp> I assume there were no errors on the install?
Jun 03 15:25:24 <EmuandCo> nope
Jun 03 15:25:34 <Lunar_Lamp> Ok, what happens when you type "which emacs"?
Jun 03 15:25:59 <EmuandCo> sec
Jun 03 15:26:14 <EmuandCo> which: No such file or directory
Jun 03 15:26:41 <Lunar_Lamp> :-)
Jun 03 15:26:43 <Lunar_Lamp> Ok.
Jun 03 15:26:51 <Lunar_Lamp> Could you do: echo $PATH
Jun 03 15:27:27 <EmuandCo> _ /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
Jun 03 15:27:42 <Lunar_Lamp> ok
Jun 03 15:27:55 <Lunar_Lamp> Now: find / -name emacs
Jun 03 15:28:38 <EmuandCo> _ /opt/bin/emacs
Jun 03 15:28:38 <EmuandCo> _ /opt/share/emacs
Jun 03 15:28:38 <EmuandCo> _ /opt/info/emacs
Jun 03 15:28:40 <EmuandCo> _ /opt/libexec/emacs
Jun 03 15:28:42 <Lunar_Lamp> (might take a while)
Jun 03 15:29:25 <EmuandCo> OK, how do I add /opt/bin to Path?
Jun 03 15:29:31 <Lunar_Lamp> Ok, try typing "/opt/bin/emacs" and emacs should launch.
Jun 03 15:30:04 <EmuandCo> Please set the environment variable TERM; see tset(1).
Jun 03 15:30:46 <capbot> caplink811 :)
Jun 03 15:30:48 <Lunar_Lamp> Ok, "man tset" :-)
Jun 03 15:31:03 <Lunar_Lamp> That will explain how to set the TERM variable, though you will still need to add to your PATH
Jun 03 15:33:50 <EmuandCo> later.. too lazy now. Where are the HDDs mounted? I could put my file to edit in SMBshare to edit it
Jun 03 15:35:01 <Lunar_Lamp> I haven't used unslung in quite a while, but I think it's something like /mnt/hdd/share or something like that.
Jun 03 15:35:10 <Lunar_Lamp> Sorry I can't help with the precise location.
Jun 03 15:45:36 <EmuandCo> OK /public/ is the path
Jun 03 15:45:46 <mwester> EmuandCo: Please install openssh and use SSH instead of telnet -- that will not only solve your PATH problem, but it will also prevent many other problems in the future.
Jun 03 15:46:08 <EmuandCo> with some luck I made a Webserver
Jun 03 15:46:28 <EmuandCo> mwester would it fix my already happened Path Problems?
Jun 03 15:46:42 <mwester> Honestly, if the developers could have found a way to remove telnetd from the firmware, it would have been replaced by openssh -- the telnet mechanism is a nightmare waiting to happen for new Unslung users.
Jun 03 15:46:45 <EmuandCo> mwester how do I use it then when Installed?
Jun 03 15:47:00 <mwester> Yes.  The openssh server knows about Unslung's need to have /opt/bin in the path
Jun 03 15:47:18 <EmuandCo> aah
Jun 03 15:47:24 <mwester> You use the Putty client (or other SSH client on windows or mac or other machine) instead of telnet.
Jun 03 15:47:57 <EmuandCo> It will run immediately after install?
Jun 03 15:48:26 <mwester> Yes.  You do not need to enable openssh
Jun 03 15:48:43 <EmuandCo> ipkg install openssh ?
Jun 03 15:49:00 <mwester> If you have done "ipkg install openssh" then it's running -- you just need an SSH client to connect.
Jun 03 15:49:26 <EmuandCo> ok,lets see. Btw can I upgrade Samba?
Jun 03 15:49:40 <mwester> (OpenSSH and PuTTY will also automatically set your terminal type for emacs, AFAIK)
Jun 03 15:49:51 <mwester> You can.  It's not easy.
Jun 03 15:50:00 <EmuandCo> oh, ok
Jun 03 15:50:46 <mwester> "replacing" samba requires care, and I don't know how accurate the wiki is on that anymore.  I've done it, but I seem to recall that you lose the ability to use the web GUI to manage it.
Jun 03 15:51:09 <mwester> Is there a need you have for a different samba?
Jun 03 15:51:52 <EmuandCo> OK openssh installed and running
Jun 03 15:52:02 <EmuandCo> mwester hmm... newer is better.
Jun 03 15:52:20 <mwester> No, not if it breaks the Web GUI!  :)
Jun 03 15:52:34 <EmuandCo> yes
Jun 03 15:52:46 <EmuandCo> good argument
Jun 03 15:52:52 <mwester> Gotta run - backlater.
Jun 03 15:52:59 <EmuandCo> cu
Jun 03 15:53:22 <EmuandCo> :-) emacs runs
Jun 03 18:42:22 <EmuandCo>  Guys, I have a problem. After a reboot my unlung tellsme its not unslinged anymore...
Jun 03 18:42:29 <EmuandCo> HDD is plugged in
Jun 03 18:42:35 <EmuandCo> I am afraid that reusing the script kills my Files
Jun 03 18:44:10 <EmuandCo> HDD shows all files, too
Jun 03 18:44:48 <EmuandCo> Btw, I moved some files with a WIndows PC and a EXT2/3 IFS
Jun 03 18:46:16 <EmuandCo> WHAT THE??? Now after another reboot it works again??!?
Jun 03 19:22:39 <EmuandCo> PROBLEM: SMB wants a Password from me. Which one is needed? (Unslung 6.8) (Disabled/Reenabled guestlogin)
Jun 03 19:25:11 <Reedy_Boy> admin, password
Jun 03 19:25:19 <Reedy_Boy> ie try your web interface login details
Jun 03 19:26:57 <EmuandCo> nope :-(
Jun 03 19:29:20 <EmuandCo> no luck
Jun 03 19:29:37 <EmuandCo> I try a reboot
Jun 03 19:32:41 <EmuandCo> nope :-(
Jun 03 19:34:03 <EmuandCo> What can Ido?
Jun 03 19:35:53 <eno> EmuandCo: samba comes from unslung? or optware samba?
Jun 03 19:36:02 <EmuandCo> unslung
Jun 03 19:36:27 <EmuandCo> Ijust disabled guestlogin. Now I reactivated it....
Jun 03 19:37:10 <eno> should be admin/password iirc
Jun 03 19:38:43 <EmuandCo> eno does not work
Jun 03 19:38:49 <Reedy_Boy> unless you've changed the web admin password
Jun 03 19:39:19 <EmuandCo> I did,and it does not work with the new AND the old one
Jun 03 19:39:48 <EmuandCo> mount shows no smbfs mounts...
Jun 03 19:39:52 <EmuandCo> Is that OK?
Jun 03 19:40:04 <eno> how about on the windows side, do you need to specify admin as the user?
Jun 03 19:41:15 <eno> smbfs is client of samba share, right?
Jun 03 19:41:20 <EmuandCo> yes, user and password needed
Jun 03 19:43:26 <EmuandCo> Can I reSET the passwords or find them out?
Jun 03 19:49:45 <EmuandCo> :-(
Jun 03 19:50:50 <EmuandCo> BRB rebooting both
Jun 03 19:53:40 <EmuandCo> I HATE WINDOWS!!!!!!!!!!
Jun 03 19:53:46 <EmuandCo> Reboot -> WORKS
Jun 03 19:53:49 <EmuandCo> YAAAARHGH
Jun 03 19:55:06 <EmuandCo> Even my Win2003 sucks at Ethernet. How disappointing
Jun 03 20:49:06 <EmuandCo> night
Jun 04 02:33:38 <scant> my power button stopped working, it doesn't even beep
Jun 04 02:40:38 <pierrelux> it's maybe not coming from the button itself
Jun 04 02:41:19 <pierrelux> could be worse
Jun 04 02:43:37 <mwester> The power button doesn't actually do anything.
Jun 04 02:44:13 <mwester> Depending on the firmware, it either interrupts or is watched by a process, which "does the right thing" when you push the button.
Jun 04 02:44:38 <mwester> So if the button doesn't work, it's often because the operating system has crashed, or the process that's polling the button died.
Jun 04 02:53:16 <scant> the power button works when not unslung
Jun 04 02:54:25 <scant> are my rc.halt and rc.reboot diversion scripts messing with CheckPowerButton?
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