**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 26 02:59:57 2007 Jun 26 10:49:19 eno: Are you about? Jun 26 10:51:16 I was just wondering about creating a package.... Presume i want to be in -linux/developer dont i? Jun 26 10:51:56 Was just wondering how easy it would be to create a package that extracts an archive (not making for the architecture) and also looking for required dependancies? Jun 26 10:52:53 Could it be done just with an sh script or something? Jun 26 10:54:09 I suppose the extract and stuff could be.... The dependancies i suppose would just be a case of seeing if they are there.. Just how would you put this into an ipk? Jun 26 11:19:13 The NSLU2 includes 32mb by default doesnt it? Jun 26 11:37:07 hmm when i use enhanced-ctorrent login on ssh using root, the Permission to the map is set to root, så when i trying to get to it throw windows explorer i get permission denied :( Jun 26 11:38:07 anyway to shange the permission or to change the login in explorer, can only login whit admin or quest!, but non of them have permission to root Jun 26 12:13:43 DigiI-: why not create yourself a user account which isnt root? and use that for stuff instead? Jun 26 12:19:12 barnseenio dont know how :S Jun 26 12:30:03 adduser Jun 26 12:30:14 well, i think it may depend on your linux installation Jun 26 12:37:08 im using unslung Jun 26 12:53:05 if i install debian, can i still se the hdd in my network like when i use unslung? Jun 26 12:54:06 yes, via samba Jun 26 12:54:16 or i guess other means Jun 26 12:54:29 i use samba to share my slug hdd(s) to other pcs + xbox on my lan Jun 26 12:55:09 ok Jun 26 12:55:46 cant deside what to use :/ debian or just have unslung Jun 26 12:56:36 heh, i use debian - its great Jun 26 12:57:25 i was going to use unslung when i first started out, but it didnt work for me. and im glad i went debian. its been a dream Jun 26 12:58:02 maybe give it a try :S last time i tryed it didnt install and i had to get back to unslung using upgrade mode Jun 26 12:58:47 urgh Jun 26 12:58:50 hehe yea, unslung doesnt work fine to me either :S i dont have any memory left and the whole thing is very slow Jun 26 12:59:11 well, for me the hdd i wanted to use didnt seem to kick in Jun 26 12:59:39 i just followed the wiki for the debian install (when i did it it was bootstrap method, not installer) Jun 26 12:59:39 maybe just som junk installations running and taking mem, but cant find em =) Jun 26 12:59:54 hehe =) Jun 26 13:00:25 pretty easy go get in to update mode, think i use that if i install debian Jun 26 13:00:47 atleast i dont need the webbrowser for that Jun 26 13:01:38 cool, doing it now? Jun 26 13:02:41 naah not right now =) Jun 26 13:02:51 heh well good luck Jun 26 13:02:58 trying to figure out whats taking all my ram Jun 26 13:03:10 isnt all your ram supposed to be being used? Jun 26 13:03:20 is it? Jun 26 13:03:21 isnt that a good thing? Jun 26 13:03:42 if i have no free mem left its going to be slow a Jun 26 13:03:48 as hell Jun 26 13:05:12 well, i think you might be wrong Jun 26 13:05:23 its been discussed in here before Jun 26 13:05:36 that all your 32mb of ram being used is not a bad thing Jun 26 13:06:04 hehe strange =) but i'll take your word for it =) Jun 26 13:06:19 linux uses as much free ram as it can for buffers and disk caching Jun 26 13:06:22 what about your slug is slow? Jun 26 13:06:26 type 'free' to see this Jun 26 13:06:51 barnseenio yea, in the explorer, u know my network stuff Jun 26 13:07:04 going in to a map is slow as hell, Jun 26 13:07:17 yea know about 'free' Jun 26 13:07:45 and listing dirs in dos, is that slow too? Jun 26 13:07:51 just going around in the maps seems to overload it or something, coz many times its just freez Jun 26 13:08:04 not sure what you mean by maps Jun 26 13:08:35 folders Jun 26 13:08:41 right Jun 26 13:08:53 are there lots of files/folders? Jun 26 13:09:02 and are you connected over wireless? Jun 26 13:09:03 listing dirs and files in ssh isnt that slow Jun 26 13:09:22 yeah the speed of windows explorer access slug dirs has been discussed in here too Jun 26 13:09:34 nope, the disk is new so there is maybe just 2 gig whit stuffs, and maybe 10 folders Jun 26 13:09:53 someone was saying it was taking 20-30 seconds to list a folder Jun 26 13:10:03 try it in dos see if its different Jun 26 13:10:43 yea its diffrent, using ls and listing folders and files goes right away Jun 26 13:11:04 and using winscp throw ssh is fast to, just the explorer Jun 26 13:11:24 but it wasent slow in the begining, then it was really fast! =) Jun 26 13:11:24 yeah sounds like time to blame windows! Jun 26 13:11:42 hehe :P darn bill gates and his windows Jun 26 13:11:50 odd. try an alternative shell like directoryopus or total commander Jun 26 13:12:45 but can total commander connect throw ssh? Jun 26 13:12:51 i dont have ftp Jun 26 13:13:49 right, now im confused Jun 26 13:13:55 hehe =D Jun 26 13:14:08 your saying your browsing files in windows explorer via ssh? Jun 26 13:14:29 no, Jun 26 13:15:07 just that mostly becouse the explorer is so slow im using a program to brows files using ssh Jun 26 13:15:32 right, well the suggesting is that the windows api for dir listing is bloaty Jun 26 13:15:50 im not stating this, just repeating whats been said in here before Jun 26 13:16:10 the suggestion was that is why unix/alternative shells were faster at listing files Jun 26 13:16:22 ok =) Jun 26 13:16:31 could just be a load of FUD Jun 26 13:16:42 however i use directory opus, and browsing files is fast for me Jun 26 13:16:55 i would really want to beable to use unix, but some progs i use doesent work whit it :) Jun 26 13:19:56 maybe that why im not that good at linux =) never really workt whit it for more then a tryout on a old comp Jun 26 13:21:11 well, i dont use it for much more than playing Jun 26 13:21:22 linux? Jun 26 13:22:09 yes, well i have the slug and a couple of servers i use for hosting stuff. Jun 26 13:22:42 hehe sweet =) "a couple" :P Jun 26 13:23:58 yes but i usually get away with muddling along with a thin amount of knowledge! Jun 26 13:24:33 hehe =) Jun 26 13:25:00 z Jun 26 13:26:28 did you buy your slug for video/music streaming? Jun 26 13:27:30 nja mostly just storage, but after getting to know what it can do, im thinking of something like a light web server Jun 26 13:27:34 and ftp Jun 26 13:27:36 and storage Jun 26 13:27:43 torrent maybe to Jun 26 13:27:54 mm yes i use mine for those Jun 26 13:28:06 but just having trouble whit torrent and the user access :P Jun 26 13:28:54 tried rtorrent? Jun 26 13:29:07 although im not sure it runs on unslung or not Jun 26 13:29:17 nope =) just used enhanced-ctorrent Jun 26 13:29:25 rtorrent is sweer Jun 26 13:29:26 -t Jun 26 13:30:31 oon the packages site it says that it have known problems on unslung Jun 26 13:30:35 right Jun 26 13:30:50 but since i thinking of giving debian one more try Jun 26 13:30:56 my isp traffic shapes, so having the encryption support of the recentish rtorrent was essential Jun 26 13:31:57 k Jun 26 13:32:28 i wanted my slug to act like a irc bot to but that didnt work out great :P Jun 26 13:32:42 oh? Jun 26 13:32:59 tryed eggdrop, but it didnt really not work Jun 26 13:33:23 * barnseenio uses irssi + screen Jun 26 13:33:51 yea, havent really tryed irssi, installed it but removed it right away to =) Jun 26 13:34:11 hah, didnt like? Jun 26 13:34:11 but ur using debian, some diffrens maybe , have no idea Jun 26 13:34:25 dunno, i really dig it as an irc client Jun 26 13:34:38 i went from mirc, to hydra to irssi Jun 26 13:34:48 think im sticking here now Jun 26 13:34:58 hard to setup+ Jun 26 13:35:03 nah Jun 26 13:35:10 easy! Jun 26 13:35:19 just a config file Jun 26 13:35:51 yea, that was it, :P i didnt find the right config file Jun 26 13:35:59 heh Jun 26 13:36:04 probly need to create one Jun 26 13:36:24 u do? didnt say any about that if i can recall right Jun 26 13:36:25 ~/.irssi/config Jun 26 13:38:45 can find a file named irssi.conf Jun 26 13:38:54 with rtorrent (not sure about ctorrent) you can setup watch dir, so you just drop a torrent in there and it starts downloading Jun 26 13:39:17 in my slug homepage i can access when away from home i can upload a torrent to the dir, for convenience Jun 26 13:39:36 although only really usefull when im in other office which blocks ssh Jun 26 13:39:55 whit ctorrent u can select what folder to download to, if that is what u mean Jun 26 13:40:10 no i mean to watch Jun 26 13:40:16 so when torrents go in there Jun 26 13:40:21 they automatically start Jun 26 13:40:35 u need too have perl installed for irssi? Jun 26 13:40:42 barnseenio thats pretty sweet Jun 26 13:41:00 dont have to for irssi, only if you do some extra shit Jun 26 13:41:10 ah ok Jun 26 13:41:51 how is the command to get irrsi to work? Jun 26 13:42:11 is it like whit eggdrop -m eggdrop.conf Jun 26 13:42:46 try just typing irssi Jun 26 13:43:04 # irssi Jun 26 13:43:04 irssi: error while loading shared libraries: libperl.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Jun 26 13:43:22 something like that =) thats why i asked about perl :P Jun 26 13:44:22 hmm, i just checked i have perl installed. but i think its not require Jun 26 13:44:22 d Jun 26 13:45:03 hehe strange Jun 26 13:45:09 should maybe try installing it? Jun 26 13:45:36 its not on already? Jun 26 13:45:48 dont thing so :S Jun 26 13:48:02 barnseenio u needed to have perl installed Jun 26 13:48:48 after installing it and typing irssi i got somewhere atleast :P Jun 26 13:54:14 barnseenio after getting in to the irssi console =) How do u join a network and a channel and so on :S Jun 26 14:01:43 cool Jun 26 14:02:05 err type server irc.cyberarmy.net etc Jun 26 14:02:13 err type /server irc.cyberarmy.net etc Jun 26 14:02:27 or /connect irc.cyberarmy.net etc Jun 26 14:02:39 one of them disconnects i think, the other just joins new networks Jun 26 14:03:20 sweet Jun 26 14:03:42 16:01 -!- Do not IRC as root. Jun 26 14:03:42 16:01 -!- ERROR Closing Link: root_ by mediatraffic.fi.quakenet.org (K-lined) Jun 26 14:03:46 not as sweet Jun 26 14:03:47 :P Jun 26 14:05:48 heh Jun 26 14:05:54 its good advice Jun 26 14:06:07 lets solve your extra user issue then Jun 26 14:06:25 in console type adduser Jun 26 14:06:44 i have created a user called Digii, but its restricted to a folder called /hdd/ and irssi is not installed there Jun 26 14:06:50 its installed under root Jun 26 14:07:34 can chmod the files to be accessible? Jun 26 14:08:33 did adduser irc Jun 26 14:09:33 did acctually work pretty nice that to =D Jun 26 14:17:38 barnseenio while joined the server,, can i change the nick? Jun 26 14:18:15 ./nick ? Jun 26 14:18:33 aaah thats right :P i wrote /name :/ Jun 26 14:18:36 stupid of me Jun 26 14:18:44 so do you have screen on there? Jun 26 14:18:49 yea Jun 26 14:18:55 used screen Jun 26 14:18:56 cool, used before? Jun 26 14:18:58 aah great Jun 26 14:19:08 screen + irssi == winning combination Jun 26 14:19:34 yea ;D hope so =) Jun 26 14:19:48 lets see if i can get back to it once closed it :P Jun 26 14:20:04 heh Jun 26 14:20:13 i use an alias in bash profile Jun 26 14:20:25 scr #number Jun 26 14:20:40 hmmm using screen, how do i get back to irssi if im opening a new win? Jun 26 14:21:27 alias scr='screen -rd' Jun 26 14:21:41 so you ctrl-a d to get out of irssi? Jun 26 14:22:09 no just closed the win Jun 26 14:22:21 ? Jun 26 14:22:49 clicked on the 'X' in the right top corner :P Jun 26 14:22:58 the irc char is still online Jun 26 14:23:27 well, typically you press ctrl-a then d Jun 26 14:23:35 and that jumps out of the screen back to previous shell Jun 26 14:23:50 so try typing screen -ls Jun 26 14:23:55 or screen -rd Jun 26 14:24:00 to reattach to it Jun 26 14:25:10 There are screens on: Jun 26 14:25:10 701.ttyp0.LKG3A0C70 (Detached) Jun 26 14:25:10 709.ttyp0.LKG3A0C70 (Detached) Jun 26 14:25:10 2 Sockets in /tmp/screens/S-irc. Jun 26 14:25:11 hmm Jun 26 14:25:17 dont really understand Jun 26 14:25:44 ok so type screen -rd 701 Jun 26 14:26:05 aaah Jun 26 14:26:10 thats how it works :P Jun 26 14:26:16 hehe thx Jun 26 14:26:29 heh Jun 26 14:26:41 add that alias i suggested to .bashrc Jun 26 14:26:47 it makes it a bit simpler imo Jun 26 14:26:57 alias scr='screen -rd' Jun 26 14:27:13 this way you just type scr to see screens avaiable and scr # to join to one Jun 26 14:27:55 type: alias scr='screen -rd' ? where should i place it? Jun 26 14:28:15 into ~/.bashrc Jun 26 14:29:10 hmm Jun 26 14:29:18 dont have one? Jun 26 14:29:31 cant find it atleast Jun 26 14:29:58 ls -la ~/ Jun 26 14:31:35 noope Jun 26 14:31:40 ni bashrc Jun 26 14:31:42 no Jun 26 14:32:00 you have a .bash_profile ? Jun 26 14:32:40 where is it suppose to be Jun 26 14:32:45 ~/ Jun 26 14:32:58 nope Jun 26 14:33:58 only have .sda1root .unslung linuxrc quata.user Jun 26 14:34:04 linuxrc it maight be? Jun 26 14:34:09 might Jun 26 14:34:09 then i guess you create them, google will be your friend for getting some simple ones. then add an alias for screen as above Jun 26 14:34:27 dunno, does unslung use bash? Jun 26 14:34:44 is the user your logged on as using bash? Jun 26 14:35:15 have no idea Jun 26 14:35:24 DigiI-: do not edit /linuxrc or you will stop your slug from booting Jun 26 14:35:31 aah Jun 26 14:35:36 then i guess i wont :P Jun 26 14:37:12 its not that hard typing screen -rd 701 anyway =) Jun 26 14:37:34 lol Jun 26 14:38:01 if the numbers are different enough you can just type 7 Jun 26 14:38:10 i.e. if one screen was 701 and the other 801 Jun 26 14:38:55 aah =) Jun 26 14:39:06 to bad both was 701 and 709 Jun 26 14:40:39 its the pid i think Jun 26 14:40:52 so you can force it to go up by 'doing stuff; Jun 26 14:41:09 i do that for mine so i have irc/torrent/nzb on 1/2/3 Jun 26 14:41:14 although im sure theres an easier way Jun 26 14:41:22 just that once its setup sweet it ticks along for months Jun 26 14:41:50 hehe =D Jun 26 14:43:38 hmm how do i switch between channels? Jun 26 14:45:45 a few ways Jun 26 14:45:51 alt-# Jun 26 14:46:05 switches to different windows Jun 26 14:46:16 or you can use alt-left/right to cycle Jun 26 14:46:40 or i quite like alt-a to cycle through windows with chat i havent yet seen Jun 26 14:47:09 aah sweert Jun 26 14:47:11 sweet Jun 26 14:47:46 you can put different channels in different windows by using /window move # Jun 26 14:49:56 if i wanna load scripts Jun 26 14:50:19 do i hafto create the map Scripts in /.irrsi/ ? Jun 26 14:50:33 or sould it be there by default? Jun 26 14:51:06 > pwd Jun 26 14:51:06 /home/bb/.irssi/scripts Jun 26 14:51:06 > ls Jun 26 14:51:06 google.pl screen_away.pl tinyurl.pl zebserv.pl Jun 26 14:53:15 ./script load tinyurl Jun 26 14:53:28 ./tinyurl http://www.crap.com/ Jun 26 14:53:34 15:54 http://tinyurl.com/3ba7m Jun 26 14:53:38 cool, works Jun 26 14:53:38 hu? Jun 26 14:53:45 lol i hardly ever use them Jun 26 14:53:50 scripts? Jun 26 14:54:48 i did used to use that screen away one, but it got too annoying Jun 26 14:54:57 it auto marks you as away when you detach screen Jun 26 14:55:26 ok =) Jun 26 14:56:11 mmf that google one doesnt work Jun 26 14:59:21 so .. irssi convert yet! Jun 26 14:59:36 hehe yea =) Jun 26 14:59:53 using it =) as a bot :P havent figured it all out yet =) Jun 26 15:00:05 as how and where it logs and stuff Jun 26 15:06:35 oh you can setup tons of logging stuff Jun 26 15:06:48 check out the website for info on that stuff, i never bother with loggin Jun 26 20:32:52 maybe that is is a good thing that some guys should begin to read some kind of documentation... Jun 26 21:06:27 barnseenio hiiii ;) :P im back :P hihi Jun 26 21:06:58 hey Jun 26 21:07:09 but you disconnected Jun 26 21:07:13 just wanted to ast how to load a script :P Jun 26 21:07:15 means you arent screening ! Jun 26 21:07:28 yea i know =) but my bot is on quakenet :P Jun 26 21:07:28 ./script load name Jun 26 21:07:34 (without .pl extension i think) Jun 26 21:07:49 hmm i think im on quakenet somewhere Jun 26 21:08:04 yea i know, but it just says script fortune.pl not found Jun 26 21:08:18 ./script load fortune Jun 26 21:08:42 even when i have created a folder called scripts Jun 26 21:08:48 inside irssi Jun 26 21:08:51 chmod the file 777 Jun 26 21:09:15 change the permission? Jun 26 21:09:30 of the folder and script Jun 26 21:11:33 aah i logged in when the irc ssh user and re-created the map and put the fortune in again Jun 26 21:11:37 and this time it loaded Jun 26 21:11:47 so it needs the right permission Jun 26 21:11:52 good oh Jun 26 21:11:59 which channel you in quakent? Jun 26 21:12:13 cant be put there by root if irssi is used by the user "irc" Jun 26 21:12:27 highland =) a friend channel Jun 26 21:12:40 can be put there, as long as perms are ok for your irc user to read the file/folder Jun 26 21:12:48 friend channel!? Jun 26 21:13:28 hehe yea, just me and some friends Jun 26 21:13:37 insteed of msn and stuff =) Jun 26 21:14:02 aah gotcha Jun 26 21:16:23 u know any script that when someone joins the channel the bot say something like "greetings " Jun 26 21:17:20 http://irssi.org/scripts/ Jun 26 21:17:40 yea tryed to find any =) cant really find it :p Jun 26 21:17:46 heh Jun 26 21:34:19 evening Jun 26 21:34:54 so today I've install Debian etch twice on my slug, and both times, upgrading it to lenny breaks it. Is this a known issue? Jun 26 21:39:04 That may be more a question for the debian folk... Jun 26 21:39:33 I hadn't heard of any troubles with it but I don't terribly pay attention to Debian on the NSLU2 Jun 26 21:39:44 joshin: yes, sorry, just properly read the page on the wiki re irc channels Jun 26 21:39:59 no problem. Was just suggesting a second place to ask. ;) Jun 26 22:41:03 hi i'm migrating my slug from openslug to debianslug. I was able to flash it to debianslug but when it reboots, i can't seem to ping nor ssh to it. I did set all the network configurations before i reflashed it. any ideas why it won't work? is there a bug if you're migrating from openslug or it just works if you're flashing from the linksys firmware? thanks Jun 26 22:42:11 janm: it takes some time to boot with the installer firmware. Did you wait until it beeps three times? Jun 26 22:44:34 I've been waiting 30 minutes now, slept this morning and woke up and still can't SSH into it Jun 26 22:44:45 ahh, fair enough, something's wrong! Jun 26 22:45:26 err, I've flashed mine fine and booted the installer today several times using both the linksys admin page and upslug2 Jun 26 22:45:29 indeed. the led stays on amber (power) and green (ethernet) Jun 26 22:46:14 upslug2 is the nicest way as it actually gives you progress... I presume you'll need the redboot stuff as normal Jun 26 22:46:15 matthew-_, have you tried reflashing from openslug to debianslug? Jun 26 22:46:24 i'm using upslug2 Jun 26 22:46:29 janm: no, I've never used openslug Jun 26 22:46:49 so i'm thinking that it might be that something's not working if you migrate from openslug to debianslug Jun 26 22:46:54 when you turn it on, do you get the cycling leds? Jun 26 22:47:06 the install docs just says linksys firmware -> debian slug Jun 26 22:47:21 they should cycle for about 10 seconds which shows that apex has loaded Jun 26 22:47:25 yes, when I turn it on I get the cycling leds then it stays on the amber/green combo Jun 26 22:48:06 bummer. Well, in that case, I dunno. Try going back to the linksys firmware and go from there? Jun 26 22:48:36 matthew-_, yeah, that's my next step. thank you! Jun 26 22:48:46 np. Jun 26 23:40:42 damn, didn't work. Jun 27 00:30:36 can i use php whit appweb Jun 27 00:30:59 or is apache the only webservers to support php using unslung Jun 27 00:35:34 DigiI-: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/ComparingWebServers Jun 27 00:35:48 sweet Jun 27 00:45:22 Hello Jun 27 00:46:05 Can anyone help me with unslinging my device questions Jun 27 00:50:39 Well I'll just ask anyways, I was unslining my device and me desired result to unsling to a flash drive in Disk 2 port. So I followed the directions but when I got to the unslinging I released the flash was considered Disk 1 even though it was plugged into disk 2, now I will be using NTFS filesystems so I need Port 1 Open if I unsling to Disk 1 in Port 2 will this affect that? If so How do I not do that Jun 27 00:55:19 come on anyone? Jun 27 01:02:33 This has got to be the fullest dead chatroom Ive ever been in Jun 27 01:37:18 Patience is a virtue. Jun 27 02:16:27 Umm, Im having issues with ipkg, I just unslung my NSLU2 I could have made a mistake. Can anyone help? Jun 27 02:19:50 Good grief! How can someone help anyone if they don't wait even a few minutes anymore? Jun 27 02:20:29 * mwester mutters something about unrealistic expectations.... Jun 27 02:23:07 mwester, lol they'll come back Jun 27 02:27:04 does anyone know if appweb ono unslung can be used whit php? yes/no? :O Jun 27 02:27:06 =) Jun 27 02:32:36 Digil- what does google say? Jun 27 02:32:55 Is it even an option that could be turned on or off in optware for unslung? Jun 27 02:33:00 i cant tell Jun 27 02:33:05 have been looking **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jun 27 02:59:56 2007