**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 02 02:59:57 2007
Aug 02 07:30:15 <irc> hi, is it normal that the nslu2 uses ALL off the swapfile and allmost all the ram?
Aug 02 07:32:43 <ch4os_> yes
Aug 02 07:33:11 <irc> is it? cos before i started enhanced09:33 -!- hugge [hugge@gigabit.nu] has joined #linux.se
Aug 02 07:33:15 <irc> opps
Aug 02 07:33:16 <irc> sorry
Aug 02 07:33:35 <ch4os_> if u want to see real ram usage use 'free'
Aug 02 07:33:44 <irc> i am
Aug 02 07:33:50 <irc> and noting is free almose
Aug 02 07:33:53 <ch4os_> most of ram is used for cache
Aug 02 07:33:55 <ch4os_> and buffers
Aug 02 07:34:03 <irc> and swapfile?
Aug 02 07:34:08 <ch4os_> it's speed up starting applications
Aug 02 07:34:09 <irc> zero left
Aug 02 07:34:57 <ch4os_> oh :P u have used all swap.. hm ;) so it isn't normal.. 
Aug 02 07:35:23 <ch4os_> maybe u have some memory leak ?
Aug 02 07:35:51 <ch4os_> ch4os@slug:~$ free
Aug 02 07:35:51 <ch4os_>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Aug 02 07:35:51 <ch4os_> Mem:         29988      28888       1100          0       7836       7192
Aug 02 07:35:51 <ch4os_> -/+ buffers/cache:      13860      16128
Aug 02 07:35:51 <ch4os_> Swap:       497972       5036     492936
Aug 02 07:36:00 <ch4os_> smb,nfs,ftp
Aug 02 07:36:03 <ch4os_> on debian slug
Aug 02 07:36:22 <irc> i have irc, torrent, apache, screen, smb
Aug 02 07:36:29 <irc> maybe thats why? :P
Aug 02 07:36:29 <ch4os_> apache ?
Aug 02 07:36:32 <irc> yea
Aug 02 07:36:49 <ch4os_> try use somethink lightweight
Aug 02 07:36:59 <ch4os_> irc.. u mean irc deamon ? or irc client ?:P
Aug 02 07:37:06 <irc> did, coulnt get it to work prop
Aug 02 07:37:15 <irc> irc client
Aug 02 07:37:18 <irc> irssi
Aug 02 07:37:23 <ch4os_> what for u are using apache ?
Aug 02 07:38:26 <ch4os_> i think it could be torrent... use top/htop to see what app use memory
Aug 02 07:38:59 <irc> i think its torrent to, it doesent work fine
Aug 02 07:39:33 <irc> when downloading the swap and mem use dives like a dead bird from the sky :P
Aug 02 07:40:47 <ch4os_> u can try to rewrite rtorrentrc 
Aug 02 07:42:33 <irc> hu?
Aug 02 07:42:53 <ch4os_> u don't use rtorrent ?
Aug 02 07:43:20 <irc> enhanced-ctorrent
Aug 02 07:43:31 <ch4os_> oh
Aug 02 07:44:31 <ch4os_> i don't use torrent at all, i noticed that lot of people use rtorrent here
Aug 02 07:45:02 <irc> hmm yea
Aug 02 07:45:16 <irc> dont see why that would do such a diffrent
Aug 02 07:45:31 <irc> think its apache mysql and php thats screwing it
Aug 02 07:45:48 <ch4os_> and mysql? huh....
Aug 02 07:46:32 <ch4os_> its too much for little arm processor ;)
Aug 02 07:49:00 <irc> yea ;)
Aug 02 07:49:15 <irc> but aslong as i dont use torrent everything is fine :P
Aug 02 07:49:53 <irc> hmm buy one more nslu or change apache to something other :P
Aug 02 07:50:21 <irc> tryed httpd before but it sux, got bugs and stuff
Aug 02 07:50:25 <ch4os_> change apache to lighttpd
Aug 02 07:52:00 <irc> easy to use?
Aug 02 07:53:44 <ch4os_> easier than apache;)
Aug 02 07:54:02 <irc> is that so :p
Aug 02 07:54:06 <ch4os_> and there is good documentation
Aug 02 07:54:41 <irc> and it can be used whit php and mysql?
Aug 02 07:54:43 <irc> htop
Aug 02 07:54:45 <irc> ops
Aug 02 07:55:02 <ch4os_> with php yes;) through fast cgi
Aug 02 07:55:31 <ch4os_> and mysql dont depend on web server:P
Aug 02 07:55:36 <irc> through cgi? is that hard to setup :P
Aug 02 07:55:46 <ch4os_> it isn't
Aug 02 07:58:05 <ch4os_> http://trac.lighttpd.net/trac/wiki/TutorialLighttpdAndPHP
Aug 02 07:59:24 <irc> should maybe swith to lighthttpd and see if i get some mem back :P
Aug 02 08:01:07 <irc> lol got  37712 back just by turning apache off?
Aug 02 08:01:12 <irc> whatahell
Aug 02 08:02:45 <irc> ok, by restarting it
Aug 02 08:03:00 <irc> apache eats mem and swap and doesent give it back? :P
Aug 02 08:05:09 <irc> why cant i use ipkg remove apache?
Aug 02 08:05:54 <ch4os_> ipkg?:P u aren't using debian ?
Aug 02 08:06:02 <irc> nope =)
Aug 02 08:06:05 <irc> unslung
Aug 02 08:06:26 <irc> started using it and it was fine so why change :P
Aug 02 08:07:22 <irc> strange apache doesent wanna be removed :p
Aug 02 08:17:17 <irc> aah now it worked :P
Aug 02 10:07:19 <irc> how do u get lighttpd to use index.html or .php so u dont hafto put /index.php .html in the adress?
Aug 02 10:10:11 <ch4os_> server.indexfiles    = ("index.php", "index.html","index.htm", "default.htm")
Aug 02 10:10:28 <ch4os_> u have to find server.indexfiles directive
Aug 02 10:11:14 <irc> in the conf file right?
Aug 02 10:11:18 <ch4os_> yes
Aug 02 10:11:39 <irc> do i hafto add server.indexfiles by my self or is it there?
Aug 02 10:12:07 <ch4os_> it should be there
Aug 02 10:13:08 <irc> ## don't forget to add index.cml to server.indexfiles
Aug 02 10:13:28 <irc> thats the inly line whit server.indexfiles there is
Aug 02 10:36:12 <irc> hmm cant get it to work whitout /index.html in adress, have added server.indexfiles becouse it wasent in the conf allready
Aug 02 10:36:42 <irc> but still doesent work, and when i restart ir i get the msg "Starting web server: lighttpd
Aug 02 10:36:47 <irc> 2007-08-02 12:37:15: (network.c.300) can't bind to port:  80 Address already in use
Aug 02 10:37:07 <ch4os_> there is apache running ?
Aug 02 10:37:13 <irc> nope
Aug 02 10:37:15 <irc> removed it
Aug 02 10:37:29 <irc> strange when i but it att 8081 it says the same
Aug 02 10:37:41 <ch4os_> u have some firewall ?
Aug 02 10:37:59 <irc> yea, but port 80 is open
Aug 02 10:40:11 <irc> but thats ok, coz the site is still open throw on to the internet
Aug 02 11:02:19 <ch4os_> ps -al | grep apache
Aug 02 11:04:55 <irc> va e det?
Aug 02 11:04:59 <irc> whats that?
Aug 02 11:06:33 <ch4os_> it should show all runing apache instances
Aug 02 11:08:40 <ch4os_> it may left some, even after remove
Aug 02 11:08:58 <irc> noting showed
Aug 02 12:29:43 <CircuitMonkey> hi all, i was told that you guys might be able to help me with the problem i'm having with my DS-106j?
Aug 02 12:35:38 <Lunar_Lamp> Just ask away :-)
Aug 02 12:35:45 <Lunar_Lamp> (though I personally probably won't be able to help)
Aug 02 12:37:14 <CircuitMonkey> well i was browsing the synology forum and seems like someone else is having problems with their setup... basically i'm unable to access the shared on the diskstation over my wifi network via my thompson speedtouch 585i router
Aug 02 12:38:01 <CircuitMonkey> via the wired network is fine, wireless is useless unless for some strange reason i'm using my phone running windows mobile
Aug 02 12:38:34 <Lunar_Lamp> The wireless is part of which device? I'm not familiar with the ds-106j.
Aug 02 12:38:39 <Lunar_Lamp> Does that have a wireless card in it?
Aug 02 12:38:49 <Lunar_Lamp> i.e. is it possible that the wireless card isn't working in there?
Aug 02 12:39:05 <CircuitMonkey> no, its just a basic BYOD NAS, the wireless is part of my ADSL router
Aug 02 12:39:17 <Lunar_Lamp> Right, ok
Aug 02 12:39:56 <Lunar_Lamp> ok
Aug 02 12:40:02 <CircuitMonkey> so i was thinking it must be the wireless in my router, but then why would the wireless work with my phone of all things?
Aug 02 12:40:18 <Lunar_Lamp> Yeah, that's a problem between your laptop/pc and the router.
Aug 02 12:40:27 <Lunar_Lamp> You must have some kind of config issue.
Aug 02 12:41:25 <CircuitMonkey> well i thought that, but i've tried 2 different wifi cards with different laptops, with still no joy, but when i access them over the wired ethernet it all works fine
Aug 02 12:42:52 <CircuitMonkey> hmm, maybe i should test a different wifi AP
Aug 02 12:45:59 <CircuitMonkey> right, i'll try an dig out the old Intel AP
Aug 02 12:56:42 <Lunar_Lamp> what kind of error messages do you get?
Aug 02 13:10:16 <CircuitMonkey> I tend not to get any, it finds the root folder showing what shares i have, but any attempt to access them results in explorer crashing
Aug 02 13:14:17 <Lunar_Lamp> hmm ok
Aug 02 14:16:15 <space> Anyone know if it's possible to send a wake-on LAN signal from a slug?  If I ssh in from the internet, can I send a wake on signal to a PC?
Aug 02 14:47:40 <eno> space: # ipkg list | grep -i wake
Aug 02 14:47:40 <eno> perl-wakeonlan - 0.41-1 - A Perl script that sends 'magic packets' to wake-on-LAN enabled ethernet adapters and motherboards, in order to switch on remot
Aug 02 14:47:43 <eno> wakelan - 1.1-2 - send the magic wakeup package over the LAN
Aug 02 14:48:29 <eno> or http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/358449
Aug 02 14:49:41 <space> Excellent.  Thanks!
Aug 02 18:35:11 <digii_> in lighttpd for not to type /index.html .php in the adress ur suppose to add the server.indexfiles but when i have dont it and places them under server.document-root nothing changes, still hafto type /index in the adress
Aug 02 18:35:23 <digii_> someone knows how to fix this?
Aug 02 18:45:05 <mwester> Did you check with the lighttpd folks?  (Or is this problem known to be specific to the NSLU2?)
Aug 02 18:52:15 <digii_> mwester: no didnt check whit the lighttpd folks, just figured that its was commonly used by folks whis slug so maybe someone know
Aug 02 20:46:16 <TheRiot> Can I unsling to a NTFS drive?
Aug 02 20:53:33 <Lunar_Lamp> No.
Aug 02 20:53:40 <Lunar_Lamp> You will need to format it.
Aug 02 20:57:44 <TheRiot> Can I have a NTFS drive as the secondary drive?
Aug 02 21:10:40 <mwester> If you don't mind your NSLU2 hanging or crashing under load.
Aug 02 21:10:53 <mwester> (The Linksys NTFS driver is known to be buggy)
Aug 02 21:19:47 <TheRiot> Thanks mwester
Aug 02 22:23:57 <capbot> mika :)
Aug 02 23:46:58 <osas> can anyone recommend a usb wifi adapter that works with unslung 5.5 or openslug 3.10?
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