**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 06 02:59:57 2007 Aug 06 07:31:41 * xkr47 is now using debian/nslu2 happily Aug 06 07:32:15 emacs starts up as fast as on my dualcore 2.2GHz athlon64 :) Aug 06 12:00:52 http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?uid=1521 Aug 06 12:06:23 ~botsnack Aug 06 12:06:23 :), fendor Aug 06 16:44:59 hi, here comes a new nslu2-user ;) Aug 06 16:46:19 just installing debian on it, as I just statet partitioning the hdd on it, ssh closed the connection... is that a bit wierd? hopefully that won't head in to problems Aug 06 17:15:36 hey Aug 06 17:16:10 hey SS2 Aug 06 17:16:19 hi Aug 06 17:16:38 do you have a slug too? Aug 06 17:16:42 in every corner I can find strohi ;) Aug 06 17:16:48 hehe Aug 06 17:16:51 yep, but kind of not working atm Aug 06 17:16:57 oh Aug 06 17:17:00 my is new Aug 06 17:17:03 really new :D Aug 06 17:17:07 the debian installer just hooked up Aug 06 17:17:11 mine too ;) Aug 06 17:17:23 i bought it today :p Aug 06 17:17:37 no ssh, and I'm wondering if I can just do a restart or not Aug 06 17:17:59 me two weeks ago ^^ Aug 06 17:18:29 but i dont buy a usb flashmemory, thatswhy i dont flash it today Aug 06 17:18:29 any sugestions from somebody? can I just do a restart or will it brick? Aug 06 17:18:47 I'm using hdds ;) Aug 06 17:19:00 i have only one Aug 06 17:20:04 should i read the manuel of the slug? Aug 06 17:20:21 the original from linksys? no :) Aug 06 17:20:27 hehe Aug 06 17:20:39 why cant it hotswap, no umount while working? Aug 06 17:21:11 must be possible Aug 06 17:21:24 i read, dont change durin work Aug 06 17:21:29 only after shutdown Aug 06 17:21:39 shutdowns are evil :P Aug 06 17:21:56 in the quickreference page 2 Aug 06 17:22:01 ok, I'll do a restart. not going to wait another hour Aug 06 17:23:05 I like the boot process, blinks almost like blinkenlights Aug 06 17:23:06 if it explode or so...t ell me Aug 06 17:23:53 how big are your drives? Aug 06 17:24:12 enouph for the next years ;) Aug 06 17:24:57 damn schuko stecker -.- Aug 06 17:27:37 *argh* looks like I need to go into failsafe mode... Aug 06 17:27:50 no ssh Aug 06 17:27:56 congratulation :D Aug 06 17:28:12 i have a wrt, its unkaputtbar :D Aug 06 17:28:41 oh, ssh is working again Aug 06 17:28:52 just generated a new ssh key Aug 06 17:29:00 strohi: unbreakable;) Aug 06 17:29:20 my english is amazing, i know Aug 06 17:29:42 the same as my german Aug 06 17:29:54 hehe ... Aug 06 17:30:00 bayr :x Aug 06 17:34:32 that installer is mad, now it doesn't accept its password Aug 06 17:35:44 a question: anyone around? Aug 06 17:36:17 me Aug 06 17:36:29 thought so ;) Aug 06 17:37:20 ok, next try. having no hdd in the 1. port isn't good Aug 06 17:40:21 this is written in the manual *fg* Aug 06 17:40:23 SS2, hello Aug 06 17:40:32 hi Aug 06 17:40:42 hi Aug 06 17:40:47 SS2, there is at least 3 places where it says how to cope with ssh closing connection :) Aug 06 17:41:18 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Debian/FAQ Aug 06 17:41:23 check question number 4 Aug 06 17:41:29 yes, found one. but I couldn't make another connection since it refused me Aug 06 17:41:50 I got the same problem, but then I just restarted the whole slug and it worked Aug 06 17:41:57 now i did a reboot, but the installer doesn't accept it's password Aug 06 17:42:32 hmm.. you have the 4.0 debian image ? Aug 06 17:43:06 yes, the r0 image Aug 06 17:43:11 you could try reflashing the debian image Aug 06 17:43:25 that should get you back to square 0 if nothing else.. Aug 06 17:43:54 (I just installed debian last night :) Aug 06 17:43:59 it's working great Aug 06 17:44:20 I think so, but i don't work great at the moment :) Aug 06 17:44:27 :) Aug 06 17:44:46 you didn't possibly change the password yourself ?-) Aug 06 17:45:01 er, no. why should i? Aug 06 17:45:16 I just thought Aug 06 17:45:22 some people are paranoid :) Aug 06 17:45:44 :P Aug 06 17:46:09 ok, need to reflash that damn thing Aug 06 17:46:49 just don't understand why it shouldn't accept the password Aug 06 17:46:54 damn -> cute Aug 06 17:47:09 I don't know either.. Aug 06 17:47:27 I only got that password problem because I used an old image ^^ Aug 06 17:47:52 hm... that image is two weeks old, did something change since then? Aug 06 17:48:00 SS2, drink and root? :D Aug 06 17:49:50 -rw-r--r-- 1 xkr47 users 8388608 Mar 11 15:14 di-nslu2.bin Aug 06 17:50:43 -rw-r--r-- 1 8.0M 2007-03-11 14:14 di-nslu2.bin Aug 06 17:51:41 that's more like 5 months old than 2 weeks .) Aug 06 17:51:52 anyway, that's what I downloaded yesterday Aug 06 17:52:14 md5sum? Aug 06 17:52:31 db8e8ec3571aff8fb2132479f860f16b Aug 06 17:52:36 db8e8ec3571aff8fb2132479f860f16b di-nslu2.bin Aug 06 17:52:39 good Aug 06 17:52:45 then it was my fault :) Aug 06 17:52:53 I like the "heartbeat" of the debian :) Aug 06 17:53:14 the ready/status light flashes twice at a speed depending on your system load :) Aug 06 17:53:43 lol Aug 06 17:54:14 when idle, it's like 40-50 beats per minute Aug 06 17:54:25 looks like that my machine has a heart attack - orange light... Aug 06 17:54:31 :D Aug 06 17:55:33 http://xkr47.outerspace.dyndns.org/tmp/debian-nslu2-lights Aug 06 17:56:21 that's from /usr/share/doc/nslu2-utils/README.Debian after you finish base installation Aug 06 17:58:17 stop teasing, need to first flash it ;) but first I need to find a howto now... Aug 06 17:58:56 didn't you flash it already ? Aug 06 17:59:27 http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/ Aug 06 18:00:48 did the original slug get an ip from dhcp host? Aug 06 18:03:48 hi Aug 06 18:04:10 hello Aug 06 18:04:23 i'm using unslung, and when i try to change ip adress, the slug won't change. Is it because i'm running on flash only? Aug 06 18:04:44 i precise: i want to upgrade to openslug, then i disabled the hard disk drive Aug 06 18:04:47 xkr47: not yet, looks like that my initramfs is broken. can't boot properly due to a missing root partition or what so ever Aug 06 18:05:16 strohi: yep, if you tell it to do a dhcp request Aug 06 18:05:36 how i do it? speak to it? Aug 06 18:05:44 ... Aug 06 18:05:54 can speak to it if you want :) Aug 06 18:06:13 SS2, a reflash doesn't fix it ? Aug 06 18:06:15 i had, but it do nothing :( Aug 06 18:06:27 xkr47: need to install upslug first ^^ Aug 06 18:06:31 PPmarcel, have you checked the wiki? I think it has some guide on how to se the ip Aug 06 18:06:38 did it first with the webgui Aug 06 18:06:42 SS2, how did you get debian on it in the first place ?-) Aug 06 18:06:46 aha Aug 06 18:06:51 yeah, upslug is good Aug 06 18:06:53 was lazy ^^ Aug 06 18:06:55 upslug2* Aug 06 18:06:59 ? Aug 06 18:07:02 upslug2? Aug 06 18:07:17 yeah Aug 06 18:07:20 is it in the debian repos? I'm humpling around with lenny Aug 06 18:07:34 * xkr47 does not know lenny Aug 06 18:07:39 * xkr47 says "hi" to lenny Aug 06 18:07:39 :) Aug 06 18:07:51 ^^ Aug 06 18:08:05 ok let me try again now there are actually people talking ;) i'm using debian/nslu2 and i'm only getting 500 KB/s through samba, anyone got any ideas why this might be so? Aug 06 18:08:22 cool, it's available Aug 06 18:08:22 xkr47: ok, i'll check now Aug 06 18:08:36 do you intend to bluid a forum? Aug 06 18:08:51 who me ?-) Aug 06 18:10:00 Xerion, according to http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/Performance the maximum speads are around 3MB/s Aug 06 18:10:32 why does all of this happen to me? can't even find a pen that reaches the reset button O_o Aug 06 18:10:34 i know Aug 06 18:10:35 Xerion, what is the cpu load? Aug 06 18:10:44 SS2 :D Aug 06 18:10:46 but i'm not getting anywhere near there Aug 06 18:11:20 SS2, use your tonque Aug 06 18:11:22 SS2, a toothpick would do Aug 06 18:11:26 strohi, :O Aug 06 18:11:33 21:10 < xkr47> Xerion, what is the cpu load? Aug 06 18:11:38 :> Aug 06 18:11:55 how can i find out easily? Aug 06 18:12:00 can i check the hdd temp through usb? Aug 06 18:12:15 hehe, somebody give me a toothpick please, a mine pencil just breaks -.- Aug 06 18:12:39 Xerion, top ? Aug 06 18:12:48 htop is better ,;) Aug 06 18:13:12 strohi, dunno, try smartctl / hddtemp tools Aug 06 18:13:54 strohi: smartmontools Aug 06 18:14:01 ok Aug 06 18:14:15 strange nmow i'm copying and playing music without music breaking up Aug 06 18:14:19 than lets think about how to get a ip Aug 06 18:14:23 maybe i somehow fixed it already ;0 Aug 06 18:14:25 s/a/an Aug 06 18:14:30 and I think hddtemp reads the temp from the smart sensors ;) Aug 06 18:14:33 indeed Aug 06 18:14:43 it seems i'm getting > 3MB/s now Aug 06 18:14:59 \o/ Aug 06 18:15:04 well only thing i did was upgrade some packages yesterday Aug 06 18:15:13 maybe cron was running some heavy stuff Aug 06 18:15:13 must have been something broken in there Aug 06 18:15:24 i didn't try after that Aug 06 18:15:46 i had the problem for 2 weeks or so, since i got the slug Aug 06 18:16:16 anyway much better this way :0 Aug 06 18:16:19 thx anyway :) Aug 06 18:17:15 :) Aug 06 18:17:26 who had the ip problem Aug 06 18:17:30 did you check the wiki already? Aug 06 18:17:32 me Aug 06 18:17:33 no Aug 06 18:17:36 :| Aug 06 18:17:56 there you go :) Aug 06 18:18:12 xkr47 what ip problem ? Aug 06 18:18:18 dhcp Aug 06 18:18:27 i take the slug an put it on ... *psst* nmap 192.168.178.* *psst* shows no new host Aug 06 18:18:33 strohi: you can solve it with mac filtering Aug 06 18:19:14 hm Aug 06 18:19:28 unintigent fritzbox :( Aug 06 18:19:32 ch4os_, I guess he doesn't know how to conf his slug ip properly Aug 06 18:19:34 uninteligent .. so Aug 06 18:19:43 xkr47: :) Aug 06 18:19:47 xkr47 during installation ? Aug 06 18:20:02 ask strohi, he's here :) Aug 06 18:20:14 strohi: you have a slug, I expected you already have a wrt ;) Aug 06 18:20:15 i'm strohi Aug 06 18:20:21 ;) Aug 06 18:20:36 SS2, the wrt is 'sleeping' in the board Aug 06 18:20:48 sleeping overboard Aug 06 18:20:54 why sleeping? should be alive Aug 06 18:20:56 the fritzbox is the dchp .. Aug 06 18:21:01 no freifunk is here Aug 06 18:21:12 oh nice Aug 06 18:21:17 not nice ... Aug 06 18:21:29 ahso Aug 06 18:21:37 but this linksys stuff is pretty nice Aug 06 18:21:56 strohi, ok to recap, what was your exact problem Aug 06 18:22:05 strohi, in case you want help :) Aug 06 18:22:06 looks good in this shelf Aug 06 18:22:18 I don't want to force help ofc, but .. if you are waiting for us.. Aug 06 18:22:55 xkr47, 5 hours ago i bought a slug, 2hours ago, i take it put the cat 5 and power cable into it and boot Aug 06 18:23:03 xkr47: let me say that strohi isn't very capable with his english ;) Aug 06 18:23:07 and now i dont know the ip Aug 06 18:23:22 SS2, hey ... my english is amazing! Aug 06 18:23:22 192.168.1.77? Aug 06 18:23:36 ok :) Aug 06 18:23:59 no, i dont think so Aug 06 18:24:06 sure? Aug 06 18:24:13 my home ip range from this fritzbox is 192.168.178 Aug 06 18:24:18 SS2, I won't let you say that because it has no positive effect whatsoever! :P Aug 06 18:24:19 --- 192.168.1.77 ping statistics --- Aug 06 18:24:19 8 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 7000ms Aug 06 18:24:44 strohi, then you need to add 192.168.1.x network to your fritzbox Aug 06 18:24:47 k, then do a nmap scan in 192.178.0.0/8 Aug 06 18:24:59 ignore SS2's buggy command Aug 06 18:25:05 ^^ Aug 06 18:25:12 not so familiar with nmap Aug 06 18:25:14 sry Aug 06 18:25:14 192.178.. *giggle* Aug 06 18:25:28 you mean 192.168... Aug 06 18:25:33 err, 192.168. yes :D Aug 06 18:25:41 he comes from bavarian, its normal :D Aug 06 18:25:46 strohi, show me your network conf for the 192.168.178.x network, pls ? Aug 06 18:26:04 I guess it has netmask 255.255.255.0 Aug 06 18:26:04 ? Aug 06 18:26:05 no, i have only 6 fingers left :P Aug 06 18:26:19 who needs more ? they're just in the way ;-) Aug 06 18:26:38 yea subnet is 255.255.255.0 Aug 06 18:27:03 ok.. I think you need to add 192.168.1.x network also because by default the slug is on that network Aug 06 18:27:33 I can't recall, maybe it is also possible to put a dhcp server for it and then it will use an ip from your 192.168.178.x network instead Aug 06 18:28:12 I think the nslu2 manual that comes in the box tells about the ip stuff, please read that :) Aug 06 18:28:19 i do some 'magic thinks' with the wrt, at first it won't work with 192.168,178.* too Aug 06 18:28:36 i had same problems with my wrt, too Aug 06 18:28:40 :) Aug 06 18:28:54 well go on and read nslu2 manual, it will help Aug 06 18:29:12 i have a question Aug 06 18:29:19 because you are supposed to get nslu2 working without our help, since we are just hacking your nslu2 to do something it wasn't supposed to do :) Aug 06 18:29:31 (if you want us tu :) Aug 06 18:29:34 to* Aug 06 18:29:58 PPmarcel, I might have answers, and it might not be 42 Aug 06 18:30:01 ;) Aug 06 18:30:07 which ftp software may i use, if i want to create virtual users? i only found vsftpd, but i need onpenslug, because i need db in openslug packages Aug 06 18:30:14 :p Aug 06 18:30:45 PPmarcel pureftpd Aug 06 18:31:58 * xkr47 just adds chatter, ch4os_ attacks with pure wisdom Aug 06 18:32:05 (successfully :) Aug 06 18:32:07 ;) Aug 06 18:33:38 ch4os_: i needn't install another software than pureftpd, i mean i needn't compile list of virtual users with someonething else? Aug 06 18:34:44 hmm Aug 06 18:34:59 no ;) everythinkg should be in the package Aug 06 18:35:09 ok Aug 06 18:35:18 and last question, before upgrading to openslug Aug 06 18:35:42 how i make difference between ipkg optware and openslug packges? Aug 06 18:35:49 ekhm.. i don't know if it's pureftpd for openslug :P Aug 06 18:35:52 i don't find in website Aug 06 18:35:57 i'm using gen2 on my ftp server Aug 06 18:36:10 gen2? Aug 06 18:36:14 gentoo Aug 06 18:36:19 it's easy? :D Aug 06 18:36:21 a ok Aug 06 18:36:27 it should exist Aug 06 18:36:34 i think i have seen it Aug 06 18:37:51 hmm about ftp, which daemon would be best to use when running debian, and not needing anything fancy? Aug 06 18:38:07 xkr47: how should I find the slug with upslug2 do I need to give an adresse? Aug 06 18:38:10 proftpd is very easy ;) Aug 06 18:38:25 i don't really need it to be easy Aug 06 18:38:34 SS2, no it finds it automatically, or if you have multiple network cards then you need to specify which one to use Aug 06 18:38:35 yes Aug 06 18:38:40 i prefer fast and low on resources :p Aug 06 18:38:50 hum, proftpd is not adviced Aug 06 18:38:50 SS2, but you must first boot it into the flashing mode before it can find it Aug 06 18:38:52 xkr47: hm, it doesn't find it Aug 06 18:38:55 with the reset button thing Aug 06 18:38:59 someone had big problems with it on website :s Aug 06 18:39:00 did that now Aug 06 18:39:04 xkr47, i think about to reorganize my it infrastructe :) Aug 06 18:39:48 Xerion pure is lighter Aug 06 18:40:26 it uses less resources Aug 06 18:40:27 strohi, hehe Aug 06 18:40:36 guess i'll try pure then, thanks Aug 06 18:40:40 but the fritzbox is a blackbox .. Aug 06 18:41:04 SS2, http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Main/UpSlug2 Aug 06 18:41:31 thx Aug 06 18:41:43 only read the "Basic use" part Aug 06 18:42:54 O_o Aug 06 18:42:54 oh, I'm mistakenly landed in assign mode :) Aug 06 18:43:10 upslug must be used by the slug, or by a pc, with flash the slug? Aug 06 18:43:51 ok, i found the answer Aug 06 18:44:02 a pc, or a slug for flashing an another one Aug 06 18:47:57 fuck, still have that password problem... Aug 06 18:49:30 SS2 :O Aug 06 18:49:35 ssh installer@slug Aug 06 18:49:39 password: install Aug 06 18:49:54 SS2 :O Aug 06 18:50:22 ??? don't tell me that installer as password was false O_o Aug 06 18:51:20 lol Aug 06 18:51:23 * SS2 needs desperately some days off Aug 06 18:52:07 wtf, one hour wasted. then debian how-to is confusing ;) Aug 06 18:53:00 hehe Aug 06 18:53:08 i found gentoo easier tbh :p Aug 06 18:53:18 -.- Aug 06 18:53:59 lets see how stable the ssh connection is now Aug 06 18:57:23 SS2, lool.. Aug 06 18:57:29 * xkr47 hands SS2 a soda Aug 06 18:57:32 :P Aug 06 18:57:35 thx Aug 06 18:57:37 sorry for not asking about that first Aug 06 18:57:52 hehe, never mind :) Aug 06 18:57:53 well good that you got it sorted :) Aug 06 18:58:00 yes Aug 06 18:58:10 * xkr47 is aiming to make a clock radio from his slug Aug 06 18:58:33 so far, I have managed to put together a command to simulate an alarm clock, 90's style: Aug 06 18:58:37 while :; do leds beep -f 1000 -l 70 -r 4 -d 30 & sleep 0.88 ; done Aug 06 18:58:44 rofl Aug 06 18:58:45 lol Aug 06 18:58:48 lol Aug 06 18:58:54 (you must install the "beep" package first for it to work) Aug 06 18:58:59 good idea, still need a good alarm clock ;) Aug 06 18:59:05 poor SS2 Aug 06 18:59:11 and the slug is even right beside my bed ^^ Aug 06 18:59:18 I was thinking of adding a usb sound card later for some more pleasant wakeup signal Aug 06 18:59:29 yep, my plan for mpd Aug 06 18:59:32 do the led blink as alarm? :D Aug 06 18:59:44 strohi, no, but they could :) Aug 06 18:59:48 i'm planning to get another slug and make a robot out of it XD Aug 06 19:00:03 :D Aug 06 19:00:09 put it inside some lego thing :D Aug 06 19:00:17 heh good idea :p Aug 06 19:00:20 add some batteries and bluetooth :) Aug 06 19:00:24 haha Aug 06 19:00:33 a friend has three slugs and one wrt Aug 06 19:00:39 I have just one slug Aug 06 19:01:00 have a wrt and slug, my family is perfect ^^ Aug 06 19:01:07 heh Aug 06 19:01:10 but the slug is having a difficult birth Aug 06 19:01:13 you have a wrt too? Aug 06 19:01:16 technically i have none at all Aug 06 19:01:30 temporarily living with my parents again Aug 06 19:01:51 and i made my mom buy one, along with the parts for the computer i built for her :p Aug 06 19:02:12 saying, yes. that blue thing will fit :D Aug 06 19:02:17 where are you from guys ?-) Aug 06 19:02:18 she wants to access all the music at all times but having 1 comp on just for that costs too much powerwise Aug 06 19:02:29 netherlands here Aug 06 19:02:36 east germany Aug 06 19:02:37 south germany Aug 06 19:02:39 Xerion, get your own flat quick before you settle down :) Aug 06 19:02:49 hehe ;) Aug 06 19:02:52 heh Aug 06 19:02:54 SS2, hu ... is it stil germany? :p Aug 06 19:02:56 * xkr47 is from Finland Aug 06 19:03:21 i used to live on my own while still studying, but i bodged up several studies at several uni's :p Aug 06 19:03:34 so i just came back here and started working Aug 06 19:03:35 strohi: don't really care, I'm just visiting this peace of earth ;) Aug 06 19:04:09 when my mom ask, wath these blue boxes are, i think i say, its some kind of decoration Aug 06 19:04:29 oh dear, this installation process will take a bit longer. looks like I need to wait a bit longer for my film Aug 06 19:04:35 hehe Aug 06 19:04:37 strohi, :D Aug 06 19:04:49 lol Aug 06 19:04:53 SS2, you can safely hit the tv while it's installing Aug 06 19:04:57 expensive decoration Aug 06 19:05:14 xkr47: where? it landed in /dev/null Aug 06 19:05:24 a tv? whats that? Aug 06 19:05:26 should install gentoo from stage 1 entirely on the slug itself Aug 06 19:05:36 that should allow you to watch a lot of movies ;) Aug 06 19:05:42 lol Aug 06 19:05:59 did a stage 2 install on a p2 233 once Aug 06 19:06:03 only took me 2 weeks :p Aug 06 19:06:04 but the problem is: the hdd has all films I'd like to see. and it is occupied not Aug 06 19:06:07 now Aug 06 19:06:17 ah Aug 06 19:06:25 open a new ssh connection to your slug Aug 06 19:06:33 and then choose "open shell" instead of "open menu" Aug 06 19:06:53 then you try to share the mounted disk over samba/nfs/whatever ;) Aug 06 19:07:02 or.. you mount some external share and copy the stuff there Aug 06 19:08:01 oh, no uptime command. how can I read the load? Aug 06 19:08:11 cat /proc/loadavg Aug 06 19:08:28 cool Aug 06 19:08:32 didn't know that Aug 06 19:10:35 hmm, wonder if I could compile a custom kernel today to support my iowarrior usb thingy Aug 06 19:11:02 through it I could add a button to stop the alarm of the alarm clock Aug 06 19:11:22 or maybe I could even just compile a module *wonders* Aug 06 19:12:06 Either way, it's best to set up the cross development environment to do the build... Aug 06 19:12:37 do you have the url to how I set up that handy ? Aug 06 19:13:05 Not for Debian, I'm afraid.. :( Aug 06 19:13:11 iowarrior - http://codemercs.de/IOW40KIT_E.html - 32 gpio pins and some leds & one button for kicks Aug 06 19:13:25 i think about to buy some usb flash stuff oder use the hdd for the firmware Aug 06 19:15:08 have two hdds for it, it will be my fileserver now Aug 06 19:15:13 You could also just use a USB/Serial adaptor, and wire your switches and outputs to the RS232 control lines. Aug 06 19:15:29 Drivers already exist, and the adaptors are very cheap. Aug 06 19:15:41 tell me more! Aug 06 19:16:04 I know the rs232 part but how about usb.. Aug 06 19:16:23 I'm expected what transfer rates I'll have. but no 100mbit ;) Aug 06 19:16:37 drivers do exist for this iowarrior also, but not precompiled it seesm Aug 06 19:17:11 for rs232 you don't need drivers :) Aug 06 19:17:35 Isn't much to tell, xkr47 -- just use the adaptor, it appears on the host as "ttyUSB0", and you can read/write the control lines with the standard tty modem control mechanism. Aug 06 19:17:40 Not fancy, but it works. Aug 06 19:18:19 ok.. what parts do I connect to the usb port ? Aug 06 19:18:39 hmm, I recall some 8-bit usb stuff on the wiki now that you mention it.. Aug 06 19:20:07 Like this: http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=91042 Aug 06 19:20:08 * xkr47 checks /lib/modules/2.6.18-4-ixp4xx/kernel/drivers/usb/ Aug 06 19:20:14 thx! Aug 06 19:20:42