**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Aug 15 02:59:57 2007 Aug 15 03:10:45 how? Aug 15 03:56:28 ls Aug 15 03:56:29 err Aug 15 04:10:50 hi all Aug 15 04:29:16 what happens if i start my slug up (unslung) without the harddrive plugged in? Aug 15 04:29:22 does it start from the internal flash mem Aug 15 04:30:01 Yes. Aug 15 04:30:30 sweet Aug 15 04:30:37 slugs are cool :( Aug 15 04:35:37 I read warnings against booting your slug with out the hard drive, once you've unslung it Aug 15 04:35:50 it might get very angry Aug 15 04:36:26 I would like to have multiple OS drives so that if i want to test out debain I can, and then return to unslung if it sucks.. not sure if I can do that or not.. anyone? Aug 15 04:37:31 There is only one kernel in flash. So you can have multiple installations of the same firmware, but not different firmwares. Aug 15 04:38:39 Ok.. so say I decide to flash.. and then use another hard drive to test out debian.. and it sucks.. so I flash back to unslung.. any way of getting my old setup back up with out having to redo the works? Aug 15 04:39:48 There's nothing secret or encrypted about the process for Unslung or SlugOS. If you dig on the mailing list archives, the technique has been documented and described. Aug 15 04:40:47 swweeeet.. I will no doubt dive into other options Aug 15 04:41:11 the way I see it, Im kinda of stuck in what software I can use with unslung .. and I might want to venture to new things Aug 15 04:42:25 I do like the web interface though.. not sure how much use I'll get out of it but it feels kinda secure having it around Aug 15 05:03:39 how come my nslu2 keeps giving me hostname lookup failures Aug 15 05:39:50 thats interesting.. I haven't had that problem Aug 15 05:40:07 mines hooked up directly to a linksys router and it was cake Aug 15 05:40:37 you may want to go into the web panel and configure your dns and subnet and gateway Aug 15 05:40:56 thats probably all it is.. it'll only take you 1 minute Aug 15 06:50:51 good morning/afternoon/evening/night Aug 15 07:01:48 G'morning Hideki Aug 15 07:02:38 morning it is Aug 15 07:02:49 hmm Aug 15 07:02:52 I'll settle for that at 12:00am as it is here Aug 15 07:02:56 what to do with my new unslung slug :S Aug 15 07:03:03 does it work? Aug 15 07:03:06 yup Aug 15 07:03:10 dude.. your going to love it Aug 15 07:03:17 i love it already Aug 15 07:03:21 Im running rtorrent which I seriously love like nothing else Aug 15 07:03:22 i cant figure out what to do with it :S Aug 15 07:03:29 hmm Aug 15 07:03:33 I'm going to use mine for a robot Aug 15 07:03:35 maybe run an ircd Aug 15 07:03:42 and I run ssh with screen so that all my downloads are uninterupted.. and I run BitchX for IRC Aug 15 07:04:02 BitchX might seem a little confusing but its really top notch Aug 15 07:04:45 course if confusion got in your way you wouldn't have solved your Unslung installation Aug 15 07:04:55 :D Aug 15 07:05:02 congrats by the way Aug 15 07:05:10 thanks Aug 15 07:05:15 i'm gonna clean up some pkgs Aug 15 07:05:16 now go do lots of reading about what other people are doing with it :) Aug 15 07:05:21 :D Aug 15 07:05:41 oh and Samba is seriously easy to install Aug 15 07:06:16 I remember early redhat days.. Samba was so messed up Aug 15 07:06:22 but you guys got it right with this baby Aug 15 07:06:34 samba is like a file sharing thing right Aug 15 07:06:42 isn't that what windows uses :S Aug 15 07:06:50 yeah.. just like Network Neighborhood 100% compatability with it Aug 15 07:06:55 smb is what windows uses Aug 15 07:06:59 yeah Aug 15 07:07:02 it's already setup Aug 15 07:07:10 its beautiful Aug 15 07:07:13 yes it is Aug 15 07:07:19 samba is software that reengineered their smb protocols Aug 15 07:07:20 I love how it recognizes all usb drives you plug in Aug 15 07:07:36 imma plug in a usb webcam :D Aug 15 07:07:41 24/7 live webcam feed Aug 15 07:07:43 >_> Aug 15 07:07:48 heh Aug 15 07:07:49 do it! Aug 15 07:08:01 stick the cam out my window Aug 15 07:08:04 spy on my neighbors Aug 15 07:08:23 I should have put my slug by a window :( Aug 15 07:08:33 mines under my desk :< Aug 15 07:08:36 it deserves to be like Aug 15 07:08:39 right beside my monitor Aug 15 07:08:46 I'm planning on two cameras for stereo :) Aug 15 07:08:54 :o Aug 15 07:08:58 two cameras Aug 15 07:09:00 how Aug 15 07:09:02 usb hub? Aug 15 07:09:02 it works Aug 15 07:09:14 mine is under the HD tv in the family room.. right next to my xbox.. its hooked up to my Linksys Wireless G Router (flashed) and configured to be a Wireless Gateway Aug 15 07:09:23 well, the nslu has 5 usb ports Aug 15 07:09:38 only 2 are connected to the outside Aug 15 07:09:44 oh Aug 15 07:09:45 really? Aug 15 07:09:51 how do you get Aug 15 07:09:53 but if you don't want to hack it, a hub will probably do fine Aug 15 07:09:55 the other 3 Aug 15 07:10:17 I still haven't opened my slug to boost the speed yet.. Im not sure I need to do that Aug 15 07:10:19 read the wiki about hardware Aug 15 07:10:33 howto section I think Aug 15 07:11:20 you should check what speed you're running at bubbeh Aug 15 07:12:39 cat /proc/cpuinfo Aug 15 07:13:02 ~133 or 266 MHz Aug 15 07:13:20 131 mhz Aug 15 07:13:21 :( Aug 15 07:13:26 how do i make it go 266 Aug 15 07:13:36 actually no Aug 15 07:13:36 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/OverClockTheSlug Aug 15 07:13:41 133 mhz = less heat Aug 15 07:13:47 dont wanna ruin it Aug 15 07:13:47 use the finger nail clipper method Aug 15 07:14:03 the difference in heat and power consumption is minimal Aug 15 07:14:23 your network speed will suffer at 133 Aug 15 07:14:25 bubbeh, my slug has been running at 266 (unconditoned room) for over 2 years Aug 15 07:14:29 its still working like a horse Aug 15 07:14:42 it was designed to run at 266 Aug 15 07:14:45 yep Aug 15 07:15:04 hmm Aug 15 07:15:10 i dont wanna open it :( Aug 15 07:15:11 linksys slowed it down... for some mysterious reason Aug 15 07:15:27 i just got it today Aug 15 07:15:31 I don't think its mysterious...they probably feared overheating Aug 15 07:15:35 ordered it like a week ago Aug 15 07:15:47 should've bought it from me (hehe), all mine come at 266 Aug 15 07:15:52 lol Aug 15 07:15:56 free shipping :d Aug 15 07:16:04 heck no Aug 15 07:16:10 :'( Aug 15 07:16:51 I sell them at $65 + $10-$15 shipping (depending on where you live) Aug 15 07:17:34 too late now Aug 15 07:17:40 that's okay Aug 15 07:17:56 last week I sold my entire stock, so I don't even have any right now Aug 15 07:18:12 sold over $300 worth of them in one day Aug 15 07:18:37 not bad Aug 15 07:18:37 wow Aug 15 07:18:42 nslu2's are popular :S Aug 15 07:18:50 i couldn't find any in computer stores tho Aug 15 07:19:00 yea, especially when you have 266's with unslung (if you option for it) Aug 15 07:19:02 it's getting old Aug 15 07:19:06 * DrJ throws popcorn chicken at Hideki Aug 15 07:19:25 but there are few equivalent replacements for it Aug 15 07:19:43 popcorn chicken?! Aug 15 07:20:04 :) Aug 15 07:20:08 I edited my trout Aug 15 07:20:10 slap Aug 15 07:20:31 ah, it was a slap :) Aug 15 07:20:45 hio Aug 15 07:22:55 solarbaby, if you needs idea what to do with your slug now still Aug 15 07:23:03 print server? Have you upgraded samba yet? Aug 15 07:23:50 what are some of the things you people are doing with yur slugs? Aug 15 07:24:03 ? Aug 15 07:25:14 runs on batteries: http://jpdict.ath.cx:8181/files/rosl1.jpg Aug 15 07:25:47 did you take that pic Aug 15 07:25:53 yes Aug 15 07:25:56 wow Aug 15 07:25:59 does the wireless work Aug 15 07:26:00 :S Aug 15 07:26:04 yes Aug 15 07:26:08 holy Aug 15 07:26:13 nicely done Aug 15 07:26:28 how many double a's is that Aug 15 07:26:33 8? Aug 15 07:26:39 why do you need that many? Aug 15 07:26:46 shouldn't...around 3-4 do it Aug 15 07:27:07 more batteries means more power.. so it can run longer Aug 15 07:27:34 do you regulate the voltage? Aug 15 07:27:59 what is the average lifespan? Aug 15 07:28:12 yes. and the tiny regulator gets too hot. so I'm going to build a new one (waiting for parts) Aug 15 07:28:42 not sure, since I haven't actually let it run until it died yet Aug 15 07:28:57 I don't want to fry the regulator Aug 15 07:29:46 * DrJ wouldn't think it would last too long Aug 15 07:30:19 draws about 870 mA +/- Aug 15 07:31:53 it might last 4-5 hours Aug 15 07:32:43 shutting down the hd when not used would help Aug 15 07:33:41 so...what's the point Aug 15 07:33:45 how do i get gcc installed Aug 15 07:33:46 :D Aug 15 07:34:02 it's going to be mounted on a robot - to control it Aug 15 07:34:13 ah Aug 15 07:34:19 big rc-car style robot Aug 15 07:34:20 what kind of robot Aug 15 07:34:57 something like a marcbot Aug 15 07:35:08 one I get around to building it... Aug 15 07:35:43 http://images.google.com/images?q=marcbot Aug 15 07:37:23 it runs debian.. and gcc is installed. it compiles stuff just fine Aug 15 07:37:34 i'm on unslung :< Aug 15 07:37:42 ipkg install crosstool-native Aug 15 07:37:52 i wonder what arm asm is like Aug 15 08:07:26 Wireless is something I'd like to do with my Slug Aug 15 08:07:46 that'd be great.. specially if I could get a wireles nic the size of a usb thumb drive Aug 15 08:08:21 Its working ok with my linksys wireless G (Bridge) but it would be nice to literally set up a slug anywhere I want with out a router Aug 15 08:08:51 as far as a print server goes.. I have a printer with wireless built in Aug 15 08:09:44 *cough*ebay*cough* Aug 15 08:09:58 which usb card do I need to buy? Aug 15 08:10:12 man Aug 15 08:10:18 * DrJ is missing these things by days Aug 15 08:10:26 just sold my last USB wireless card Aug 15 08:10:40 yeah I would have bought it Aug 15 08:11:33 I'd still like to know which one I need Aug 15 08:12:02 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Peripherals/WirelessNetworkAdapter Aug 15 08:12:12 Thanks ;) Aug 15 08:15:04 as you can see, the 2.4 kernel is a problem Aug 15 08:15:27 Yeah.. I really should switch over to debian Aug 15 08:15:40 I dont want to say I've mastered this by any means, but I feel very comfortable tnow Aug 15 08:15:43 more devices: http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/zd1211rw/devices Aug 15 08:28:03 hello Aug 15 08:28:39 lo Aug 15 08:42:14 Hmm I see no way of performing gzcat in unslung Aug 15 08:44:25 does it exist in optware? Aug 15 08:44:33 I dont think so Aug 15 08:45:09 i don't knwo if you can compile your own softwares on unslung Aug 15 08:45:20 im trying right now Aug 15 08:45:29 ok :) Aug 15 08:45:31 if I can't it might be a reason to ditch unslung pretty fast Aug 15 08:45:59 does someone can tell me anadvice about openslug installation? Aug 15 08:46:47 "The gzcat utility behaves just like the gunzip -c command. (On some systems, gzcat is installed as zcat; however, MKS Toolkit has chosen to install it as gzcat to preserve zcat as a link to uncompress.)" Aug 15 08:47:38 how does that help? hehe I ended up just using gunzip I believe Aug 15 08:47:55 tried typing zcat? Aug 15 08:48:11 ah hell Aug 15 08:48:16 hehe Aug 15 08:48:19 or I guess you could just make your own gzcat that calls ugunzip Aug 15 08:48:26 with -c Aug 15 08:49:27 Hideki> you could help me about openslug installation? website don't warn about my problem :( Aug 15 08:49:56 I haven't used openslug.. only unslung and debian Aug 15 08:50:01 ar ok Aug 15 08:50:22 what's the problem then? Aug 15 08:50:44 i can't copy data from flash to hdd, because no space left, as it say Aug 15 08:50:46 http://pastebin.com/m54928a8f Aug 15 08:50:59 i just format and created partition Aug 15 08:51:09 i block here for a few days Aug 15 08:51:35 or i haven't undertood then Aug 15 08:52:09 is /tmp in ram? Aug 15 08:52:21 good question: i don't know Aug 15 08:52:57 mount would tell you (tmpfs) Aug 15 08:53:15 the best way to know i it did work is to link my hdd on a comuter and check file system, right? Aug 15 08:53:38 mount tmpfs? Aug 15 08:53:55 just type mount (no options) and check the output Aug 15 08:54:34 i have 4 tmpfs O_o Aug 15 08:54:48 it's normal to have some Aug 15 08:55:03 it's like a ramdisk Aug 15 08:55:17 http://pastebin.com/m30ed174f Aug 15 08:55:20 ok Aug 15 08:55:31 so i continue installation now? Aug 15 08:55:48 i can consider it as normal install? Aug 15 08:56:56 looks like it simply ran out of memory Aug 15 08:57:31 but how to get around that... no idea Aug 15 08:58:05 ok, i'll look again and search a solution Aug 15 08:58:06 thx Aug 15 10:03:46 i can't boot from the hard disk with openslug, only from flashdisk. Does someone can help me to fix it? Aug 15 10:10:38 swapon seems to not working Aug 15 10:48:04 hello - can anyone tell me how to change the banner message when i log into my NSLU2? Aug 15 10:50:43 ? Aug 15 11:02:48 Can anyone here help me with a strange mount problem? Aug 15 11:03:00 or maybe see if its "normal"? Aug 15 11:24:17 anyone?:( Aug 15 13:22:02 ok, now all work well. I had to reflash my openslug, because flash was full Aug 15 13:22:44 :P Aug 15 13:23:10 optware from openslug is same of unslung one? Aug 15 14:37:26 cause i can't install rtorrent :( Aug 15 15:02:40 can i import softwares from unslung optware to openslug? Aug 15 15:07:46 does it exist a nslu2 help channel? Aug 15 15:19:58 PPmarcel: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/Slugosbe Aug 15 15:21:50 yes, i tried it Aug 15 15:22:24 it didn't work, but now you say it's the way, i'll work more on it Aug 15 15:27:34 hum, i need to be in this famous bootstrap to create the second optware? Aug 15 15:37:58 does someone can explain me what's wrong here? http://pastebin.com/md3f1aa1 Aug 15 15:43:00 i won't use unslung anymore, because there are a lot of tools that i don't use. But on openslug, i can't use unslung optware. mwester, could you help me to active it? i don't find doc about bootstrap, and commands don't work in openslug if i enter them like wrote on website. :( Aug 15 15:43:28 PPmarcel: try cutting and pasting more carefully. Aug 15 15:44:02 ok Aug 15 15:44:23 i'll work on it Aug 15 15:44:25 Try cutting and pasting one line at a time, the "\" character at the end of those lines is a continuation character; there should be nothing after that character. Aug 15 15:44:45 :o Aug 15 15:45:16 i'm not a master about shell synthax Aug 15 15:47:25 Here's what that first line should look like when you do it: http://pastebin.com/d148c3b7c Aug 15 15:48:59 thank you mwester , now i can install missing softwares :) Aug 15 15:52:24 about the path, i just have to add /opt/bin it the PATH? Aug 15 15:53:32 it work great now Aug 15 15:53:34 cool Aug 15 16:45:00 I have some trouble partitioning / a drive using fdisk Aug 15 16:45:18 when I'm about to write the partition table I get: Unable to write /dev/sdc Aug 15 16:46:04 I have tried anything... but the disk is for some reason write protected Aug 15 16:46:15 it works fine in windows Aug 15 16:49:11 use windows then :) Aug 15 16:54:01 MystiQu: Im guessing you are doing this with root privleges, yes? Aug 15 16:54:58 MystiQu: And its not a disk that you have still mounted somewhere? Aug 15 16:56:19 a more general question regarding donations, any other possibility then using paypal atall? Aug 15 16:58:57 widrone: yepp, I'm root =) Aug 15 16:59:02 or maybe I should just get my ass on the line and fork over my number to them :) Aug 15 16:59:08 it's not mounted either Aug 15 16:59:30 haha =) Aug 15 17:00:12 I've found 1 interesting thing in the logs... Aug 15 17:00:13 sdc: Write Protect is on Aug 15 17:01:02 taken from dmesg output Aug 15 17:02:06 MystiQu: Remove the tape over the hole then :) But really on a more seroius note, never even seen that error for fdisk and I have nuked some disks in my time Aug 15 17:02:40 hehe ;) no matter what I do I can't write to it in linux... Aug 15 17:03:17 I used a WD utility to fill the disk with zeros, thought that might help... but it didnt Aug 15 17:03:24 MystiQu: What firmware, and what is written to the console when you plug the device into the NSLU2? Aug 15 17:03:41 maybe that util turned on some writeprotect? Aug 15 17:03:56 I tested that util after everything else failed :) Aug 15 17:04:37 Linux will mark a device as not to be written to in certain error conditions, so as to protect what data might exist on the device, for example Aug 15 17:04:47 aah Aug 15 17:04:59 The console usually has the message indicating why Linux decided it should be write protected. Aug 15 17:05:10 hdparm -r0 maybe? Aug 15 17:05:13 Hence the need to fetch the console output. Aug 15 17:05:55 (console output != /var/log/messages, console output ~= dmesg) Aug 15 17:05:55 or would that be -r1, sorry Im so tired and confused now. Aug 15 17:06:30 trying to find some info from dmesg.... Aug 15 17:08:31 What type of device is it? Aug 15 17:08:47 no info at all before the " sdc: Write Protect is on" line Aug 15 17:09:12 its a WD usb2.0 Aug 15 17:09:24 Vendor: WD Model: 3200AAJ External Rev: 1.06 Aug 15 17:09:47 What firmware are you running? Aug 15 17:11:31 I have no idea, just plugged it in and it used to work (win) :) Aug 15 17:11:50 You don't know what firmware is loaded in your NSLU2? :-) Aug 15 17:12:07 aah, OpenSlug u mean =) Aug 15 17:12:10 hehe Aug 15 17:12:31 a bit confused today ;) Aug 15 17:13:02 3.10 beta Aug 15 17:13:29 widrone: hdparm did not help either Aug 15 17:13:44 What type of enclosure? Aug 15 17:16:31 usb 2.0 interface, did not buy the enclosure separate Aug 15 17:16:32 http://www.westerndigital.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=219&language=en Aug 15 17:16:33 that one =) Aug 15 17:22:40 hey, seems to work now.... Aug 15 17:22:47 odd Aug 15 17:23:04 after altering the readonly flag 5-6 times, it suddenly worked to write the partition table Aug 15 17:23:46 Maybe you need to work some voodoo on it, or it just wanted some attention. But this seems really wierd... Aug 15 17:23:58 There are a number of pages found by google that imply that this might be due to an interaction between a specific driver and some buggy firmware in the enclosure. Aug 15 17:24:13 MystiQu: But now it works in linux too! :) Aug 15 17:24:43 Ill just state that I got a simmilar drive and I have never seen this happen to me. Aug 15 17:24:49 yeah, maybe I should pat it on the side a few times =) Aug 15 17:25:20 Model: 2500JB External Rev: 0106 (usb2.0 WD enclosure) Aug 15 17:25:52 hmm, using mke2fs to format it... takes ages... but my Maxter 250GB (also usb2.0 external) it took like 3 minutes Aug 15 17:26:50 widrone: your works fine huh? same rev. as mine Aug 15 17:26:57 maybe its in some none-dma oldmode sillyness after all this writeprotect stuff? Aug 15 17:27:19 Writing inode tables: 329/2385 not very fast Aug 15 17:27:27 MystiQu: Never been giving me any hassle, and its been plugged into a nslu2 for 2years or something Aug 15 17:27:54 MystiQu: Differnet firmwares back anf forth, not a writeprotect in sight. Aug 15 17:28:26 must be something with the drive then... Aug 15 17:28:57 maybe I should get the 2500JB model instead =) Aug 15 17:29:15 not sure I want to store data on this one after all this hassle... Aug 15 17:29:29 Writing inode tables: 468/2385 Aug 15 17:30:14 MystiQu: Maybe its gone into usb1.0 mode that is like 12mb/s Aug 15 17:30:32 MystiQu: Not that there should be any reason for that. Aug 15 17:31:49 widrone: could be... Aug 15 17:32:18 btw, thanks for the help and suggestions! :) Aug 15 17:33:05 MystiQu: And cable/hub could slow it down too if they are only 1.0 certified. Aug 15 17:33:43 I wonder what happens when I reboot... if it's write protected again I'll throw it out of the balcony :D Aug 15 17:33:59 everything is 2.0 certified =) Aug 15 17:35:10 * mwester thinks widrone might be on to something -- replace cable and remove hub (if using a hub), and try again. Aug 15 17:35:32 what the heck... the slug dissapeared from the network during the format Aug 15 17:36:13 MystiQu: No swap on it? Aug 15 17:38:11 a small one Aug 15 17:39:20 can a too small swap (or none at all) cause it to dissapear while formatting? Aug 15 17:39:53 I wonder if it's still formatting :) Aug 15 17:41:47 wait a sec, I have not swap at all!!! Aug 15 17:43:46 just followed the openslug install guide, did't partition myself Aug 15 17:43:53 MystiQu: I seem to remember it happening to a nslu of mine, after the format was done it came back Aug 15 17:44:24 widrone: yeah, it came back 10 sec ago :) Aug 15 17:46:40 I need to reflash to add a swap (from the flash disk my fs is on), right? Aug 15 17:50:04 its possible to add more then one swap partition Aug 15 17:50:19 it s also possible to mkswap on a file... Aug 15 17:51:39 aaah, great! :) Aug 15 17:52:15 seem to remember something in the mkswap man page about dd to a file or something, cant really remember to well now Aug 15 17:53:11 yepp, you can use dd Aug 15 17:54:25 hmm, the slug completely froze when I typed the reboot cmd... cant even use the power button to shut it down Aug 15 17:55:56 MystiQu, it can't run without power - so if all else fails - pull out the power cable. However, don't do that yet, as someone may have something useful to suggest. Aug 15 17:57:51 Lunar_Lamp: ok Aug 15 17:58:33 Yes, it is possible to require swap when formatting large disks, and 250GB seems to be the threshold reported by many... Aug 15 17:59:11 gotta go to the store and buy some food, meanwhile - the slug remains on, hope it works again when I get back :) Aug 15 17:59:28 mwester: ok, gonna fix the swap asap :) Aug 15 17:59:38 * MystiQu went to get some food Aug 15 18:02:10 that could maybe explain the slow formating too, now that I think about it Aug 15 18:02:21 the power of hindsight! Aug 15 19:01:04 * MystiQu is back Aug 15 19:01:54 think I have to cut the power... can't ssh to it Aug 15 19:02:01 Attempting 'password' authentication. : freezes here Aug 15 19:02:09 when I try to ssh Aug 15 19:06:21 sshd having problems due to low swap probably. Aug 15 19:06:34 how much swap was configured on it btw? Aug 15 19:07:05 no swap at all, gonna fix it now Aug 15 19:08:07 hi Aug 15 19:08:17 howdi Aug 15 19:08:22 MystiQu: A boot shold do it then, then add some for it. Aug 15 19:08:25 my ircd-hybrid won't start :( Aug 15 19:08:39 it says it's started Aug 15 19:08:44 but when i run ps it's not there Aug 15 19:09:50 MystiQu: Btw its the manpage for mkswap that has the dd command needed if you need to run swap in a file Aug 15 19:09:55 somethings lying.. Aug 15 19:11:21 widrone: aah, thanks Aug 15 19:13:03 bubbeh: Anny logs in /var/log telling anything? Aug 15 19:13:16 hehe, it dissapeared again while creating the swap file... guess I really need that swap :) Aug 15 19:13:29 umm widrone: no logs from irc-hybrid in there Aug 15 19:13:44 btw, I don't have a /var/log/messages file?? is there any corresponding on openslug? Aug 15 19:15:03 bubbeh: dmesg / daemon / anything saying something? Aug 15 19:15:31 ? Aug 15 19:15:32 what Aug 15 19:15:59 ircd just says it's starting up and it's running at and then i check the process list and theres no ircd in sight Aug 15 19:16:06 no errors no logs Aug 15 19:16:12 bubbeh: Dont really know hybrid at all, just pointing fingers at somewhere that may tell you something. Aug 15 19:16:18 ah Aug 15 19:16:23 i'm used to unreal :( Aug 15 19:16:33 is there an unreal pkg for unslung Aug 15 19:16:54 bubbeh: Any way to start it in the forground or increase its logging maybe with runtime switches Aug 15 19:17:03 when i start it in foreground Aug 15 19:17:05 it idles for like Aug 15 19:17:06 1.5 seconds Aug 15 19:17:08 and then closes Aug 15 19:17:54 bubbeh: ooh, heelpful program aint it :) Aug 15 19:18:10 yeah :( Aug 15 19:22:40 And Im guessing googling for "irc-hybrid dies unexplainably" is a loooongshot too. Aug 15 19:23:42 yup Aug 15 19:23:46 are there any other irc servers Aug 15 19:30:44 what would be the best option: having the swap file on the flash memory (where my fs is stored) or on one of the external usb disks? Aug 15 19:31:44 swap on flash = flash dies in a day or two Aug 15 19:31:51 if they are hard drives, use them Aug 15 19:31:57 internal flash dies that quick hideki? Aug 15 19:32:05